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3:00 AM
I'm putting together the docs for what I have so far, I'll upload them to github when they're ready
 
@Maltysen you should really be on NAO
 
I'll release the implementation when it's finished
 
what's NAO?
 
public server, so we can watch you
ssh nethack@nethack.alt.org
 
telnet nethack.alt.org
 
3:01 AM
telnet is slow and lag is annoying
 
ninjad so hard
 
Is there any way to preview github markdown files locally?
@mınxomaτ Hello
 
@SuperJedi224 Depends on your editor. Both Brackets and VSCode support that.
 
@undergroundmonorail is pretty darn good at computer art
user image
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@SuperJedi224 alternatively, use a sane editor and github.com/github/markup
 
3:05 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies the only drawing there that's actually good is the diglett :P
 
Well, all of your stuff was way better than my statue of liberty :P
 
Do we have a cross-product challenge?
@Calvin'sHobbies I thought it was a salad man
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exactly
 
how to turn on colors
 
look down
 
3:07 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies What is this? Some sort of game?
 
@Maltysen O for options
 
OH! Challenge for bell numbers!
 
how do I change option pages?
it just says 1 of 4
 
>
or space
 
3:10 AM
@MartinBüttner Can you make this your new avatar? ^
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@Doorknob how do I save options
 
put them in your options file
 
wait first, how do I edit the options
 
just the letter change the +-
 
3:11 AM
right, the + means it's selected
 
but when I press enter, it didn't change
and when I go back to shift-O its back to -
 
the +- is whether it's selected
then once you exit the options thingy, it toggles the option
the true/false is whether the option is on or not
 
got it
thanks
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what's a salad man?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies that's a good question
 
3:19 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies a man who is still in his salad days
 
1
Q: Mathematical substitution

J AtkinSometimes it is useful to run a math problem with multiple inputs. The goal of this challenge is to make a program that eases this task. Number-generating expressions You must support 3 types of expression: Single number generator: Very simple, just a literal number Multi-number generator: A ...

 
So you guys are walking @Maltysen through nethack? :P
 
pretty much
 
What is his username? I want in...
@Maltysen ^
 
username?
 
3:27 AM
username?
 
my flockdraw froze and when i reloaded everything disappeared :(
 
@undergroundmonorail wait a minute, that happened to me once
 
i've still got it open but it's been a while
can you see where i've drawn in the lower right
 
the orange smudge? yes
 
3:32 AM
/me is proud
 
Calvin's Hobbies and Martin's Butt
*Butter
Or not, actually
 
I'd star that, except I'm tired.
And good night my fellow countrymen.
 
hey, I'm looking to do more reading/listening in my life
what podcasts/books/blogs do you guys read/listen to?
 
and the adventure zone
...
i sent a message before that
it said "i listen to my brother my brother and me"
it never sent
 
People don't star my messages
6
 
3:42 AM
@NathanMerrill for books, do you like scifi?
 
@Ampora nice bait
 
I was responding to Conor
 
@Ampora hovers over clear stars
4
 
yeah, but I'm looking for more sciency/technology related stuff
 
Be it laziness on SOMEONE's part or the fact that I am simply not funny, I will never know
 
3:43 AM
@NathanMerrill oh, so not fiction then?
 
Ergo... @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ಠ_ಠ
 
@Doorknob not ruling it out, as I love fiction, but not exactly what I'm looking for :P
if you have an amazing read, then I'll definitely take a look at it
 
@mınxomaτ Woah, cool.
 
@NathanMerrill ah, okay. I haven't yet built up a collection of many nonfiction tech-related books, seeing as lots of that stuff is just online
 
@undergroundmonorail listening to it right now, and I'm not really a huge fan :P
it feels like a SNL-style podcast
 
3:48 AM
@NathanMerrill I listen to WTNV
 
Goodnight
 
night!
@Ampora this is interesting. a podcast style fiction about a town?
 
It's excellent. The narrator delivers strange yet interestingly thought-provoking stories in a very nice sonorous voice and treats what would ordinarily be considered ridiculous scenarios as the norm
If I remember correctly, this is the opening:
 
I'm listening to the Pilot right now
he keeps on saying how to stay out of the dog park
and humans aren't allowed in the dog park
and don't look at the hooded figures in the dog park
 
To start things off, I’ve been asked to read this brief notice:
The City Council announces the opening of a new Dog Park at the corner of Earl and Somerset, near the Ralph’s. They would like to remind everyone that dogs are not allowed in the Dog Park. People are not allowed in the Dog Park. It is possible you will see Hooded Figures in the Dog Park. Do not approach them. Do not approach the Dog Park. The fence is electrified and highly dangerous. Try not to look at the Dog Park, and especially do not look for any period of time at the Hooded Figures. The Dog Park will not harm you.
The whole thing is like that
 
3:54 AM
@NathanMerrill that's fine
the adventure zone is the same 3 guys and their dad playing dnd
 
"Are the unmarked helicopters circling the area black? Probably government helicopters. Not a safe place to play today"
@undergroundmonorail yeah I saw :P
 
I prefer the Sheriff's Secret Police's helicopters tbh
Because they watch your children play, and they hardly ever take one :P
 
i like wtnv but it got pretty plot heavy and i fell behind
 
for those confused:
 
3:56 AM
and now if i want to listen to it again i have to get caught up by so much haha
 
@Ampora Speaking of which, how'd that homecoming thing go from awhile back?
 
No comment
 
(Randomly came to my mind while browsing old answers)
 
I'm going to make something with animate and tikz for Prom, let's just say that
 
3:58 AM
Because obviously, the fact that Javascript was used is what made the idea not work.
Though in all honesty, I wouldn't want to go out with someone who doesn't appreciate the beauty of LaTeX
 
Hmm...
Befunge next time? :)
 
I actually have an idea for LaTeX based on some of the really nice things in the LaTeX catalogue.
 
oh jeez, the sidebars just enlarged
 
I also might send it to a different person. At least he appreciates comp sci and LaTeX, unlike some people
 
@Calvin'sHobbies If you mean on the main site, that was a planned change.
 
4:02 AM
@AlexA. its for every site
 
I know that
 
ah ok :P
 
:P
 
 
@AlexA. as long as graduation next on the agenda
 
4:04 AM
Hot legs
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Prooooooooooooobably not
 
@PhiNotPi I'm getting absolutely nowhere with a strictly evolutionary algorithm
380/1000
it always gets stuck on slightly better than random chance
from a very naive majority starting point
 
@orlp You evolved giraffes?
 
17
Q: Plurality Voting with Cellular Automata

PhiNotPiThere's a really important problem in cellular automata called the Majority problem: The majority problem, or density classification task is the problem of finding one-dimensional cellular automaton rules that accurately perform majority voting. ... Given a configuration of a two-...

 
@AlexA. We should hold a "when will we graduate" betting contest. Everyone picks a date and the person to choose the closest date without going over gets 50 rep from everyone else.
 
4:07 AM
haha
 
Don't tell Geobits
 
he's still holding out for november 2015
 
I bet inauguration day - January 20, 2017. The US will have a new president before PPCG graduates.
 
@Doorknob How is Maltysen doing with nethack? cannot watch atm
 
I want to put my high school graduation date as my bet but that's only 4 months away
 
4:14 AM
I still have this niggling feeling that Doorknob is pulling all our graduation strings
 
2
A: Guidelines for posting and closing popularity contests

DennisWhich challenges are on topic here? First and foremost, the same rules apply to all challenges, whether they are popularity contests or not. These rules are outlined in our help center. They were phrased differently in the past, but their essence was the same ever since the help center was creat...

@quartata ^
DENNIS HATH SPOKEN!!
@Calvin'sHobbies Little known fact: Doorknob has been trolling the community for years. He actually hopes we never graduate, and has been taking measures to ensure it never happens.
However, NotDoorknob disagrees. He's a warrior for justice.
 
@AlexA. Like appointing birds as moderators... ( ;) )
 
but... but... the informal election... people voted... ._.
 
@AlexA. everyone who voted was Doorknob's sock
 
@AlexA. I came, I saw, I upvoted. Dennis has spoken; we can all go home now.
 
4:21 AM
His is the right answer.
 
Q: How many socks do you need to appoint a moderator?
 
A. closed as too broad
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TanMathMake a search engine! code-golf Background You are now the first employee of DuckDuckGoogle, a company founded by a Google employee and a DuckDuckGo employee! They have a new vision for search engine! But obviously, they need to make a search engine first! However, they are bad programmers (n...

@Rainbolt
 
@Dennis A: Just one. You need a sock of Tim Post. :P
 
4:23 AM
@quartata veni, vidi, sursum-suffrago
 
hehe
 
idk if the last one is even close to correct
 
check out my latest challenge...
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
How stomped on are you getting in Nethack? @Maltysen
too lazy to join IRC and see the death reports
 
4:24 AM
@quartata pretty badly :)
 
@quartata Such confidence
 
want to discuss my sandboxed challenge?
 
@Maltysen stay determined
 
I LIKE IT WHEN MY GRANDMA PUTS PEANUT BUTTER ON CARROT STICKS
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@TanMath You've mentioned your challenge three times in three minutes. Is that really necessary? That's not even enough time to read your sandbox proposal...
 
4:27 AM
slowpoke @NewSandnoxedPosts
 
Not even Dennis can FGITW in 3 minutes.
 
@quartata I dunno, he's not on NAO
 
@feersum if I start my evolutionary code from your startpoint I can improve it to 59% (so far)
 
@Ampora I do too but that's 2 years and 4 months away
 
cool
it's still 0 and 1 convergence only?
 
4:30 AM
hrm, I didn't check
probably, though
on this particular problem the local maxima seem to be stuck inside very, very deep valleys
 
@Maltysen be on NAO it provides you with tons of benefits
 
@feersum edited in a check, seems to be 0 and 1 only
 
> "What do you want to be when you grow up?" "A firetruck!"
 
@AlexA. lol where is that from?
 
Something my girlfriend just showed me online. :P
 
4:36 AM
ew peanut butter on carrots
 
^
 
Yeah, sounds pretty gross.
 
ew peanut butter...
 
why ruin perfectly good carrots
 
Why ruin perfectly good peanut butter?
 
4:37 AM
carrots are literally perfection
 
@TanMath No peanut butter is amazing
 
@AlexA. it is miserable and nauseating...
@quartata agreed...
 
@quartata Don't let apples hear what you say about carrots
 
there is nothing you can or should add to carrots
 
Can I haz @Dennis permision to repost sandbox challenge? :p
 
4:39 AM
chill
 
Why? You just posted it a moment ago.
 
apples = favorite fruit carrots = favorite vegetable
 
People will see it when they see it.
 
big difference
 
but no one said anything
 
4:40 AM
What are fruit carrots?
 
it'll happen dawg
the sandbox isn't for getting in and out in an hour
 
@TanMath Chat is not a reliable place to get sandbox feedback. Usually sandbox feedback comes, well, in the sandbox. :)
 
i have always got best sandbox feedback here...
the llama is here!
here to take over the world!
run!
 
4:44 AM
Is that a cat in a strange pastry thing?
 
It's a cat bed shaped like a macaroon
 
@AlexA. -1 Not enough goats.
 
@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ goat flockdraw.com/ge803u
 
@Dennis should probably continue your long comment discussion with Nathaniel in the handy dandy chat room
 
@Calvin'sHobbies oh wow...
 
4:50 AM
 
What's that gold block thing?
 
Martin's butter
 
just was about to say that...
 
@quartata I had to create a new room. I have no idea how to move comments to yours.
Although I guess I could move them from the new room to the other one.
 
@Dennis I don't think you can move comments to a specific room other than the automatically made one
 
4:54 AM
i am going to make a pagerank algorithm challenge...
 
You will have to move them to the other one and delete the comment room yeah
 
0
A: Plurality Voting with Cellular Automata

orlp"Just steal whatever's best and evolve it", 59.2% This answer encodes/decodes solutions by enumerating all states as ternary numbers (least-significant digit first). The solution for 59.2%: 000000000010010010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000010000110000000 00000000001001001000000...

@feersum ^
 
@orlp What does my solution look like in your ternary format for comparison?
 
@feersum check the source :)
@feersum my algorithm isn't named "steal whatever's best and evolve it" for no reason :)
 
aha lol
 
5:01 AM
Fun fact: if you drive one mile to the convenience store to buy a Powerball ticket, you are eight times more likely to die than win the jackpot
 
How does that compare to watching TV instead?
 
no clue
I'm just repeating random 'facts' from reddit without even checking the source
 
yay flockdraw.com/ge803u is such a masterpiece
 
@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ You can save images -> flockdraw.com/gallery/view/2121123
 
5:07 AM
Oh didn't know that
 
how does text work?
 
You type it with your fingers and read it with your eyes
 
5:23 AM
@orlp I tried your rule and still get results around 55%
Could be my program is buggy
 
how does typing work? how does reading work?
 
.......@AlexA......
 
@feersum or mine I dno
@feersum check little vs big endian
 
It's symmetrical though
 
@feersum mine isn't
oh like that
 
5:25 AM
@El'endiaStarman WAT
 
still, there might be some subtleties, where changing from little to big endian screws stuff up
 
Pretty sure results should be symmetrical; anyway changing it didn't help.
 
@feersum actually, I believe I know what's going on here =/
@feersum I was doing 1000 tests
@feersum at some point the random distribution might favour a certain pattern
I guess I should just generate one random set of patterns and keep using that
 
You're doing the same 1000 test cases every run?
 
the opposite
so at some point - even if the pattern hasn't improved - a set of random test cases gets generated that favours a certain pattern
 
5:29 AM
So what do you get if you run your answer with e.g. 10,000 cases?
 
@feersum well, it starts out at 55.7%
it now has found 56.3%
but I don't know if that's due to the same effect as before
 
I mean, run the string you posted without evo.
 
oh, that got garbage =/
even if I ran it with 1000 test cases with a different seed
54.9% or smt
so my program is more or less evolving the random samples rather than the strings =/
 
It doesn't really get 59% then?
 
probably not, no =/
yep, even 10,000 test cases aren't enough
 
5:34 AM
It's hard to get evolving algorithms to work; that's why I didn't try that
Intelligent design ftw lol
 
my algorithm 'found' a solution with 5729/10000
test it again with different seed = 5564
 
@feersum Gradient descent ftw :D
(or twiddling)
 
@quintopia There's no way that's going to work here.
2k variables and you can't even evaluate a point
 
@feersum interestingly enough, this exact same strategy worked amazingly well for this
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A: Shortest universal maze exit string

orlpC++, 97 95 93 91 86 83 82 81 characters My strategy is fairly simple - an evolution algorithm that can grow, shrink, swap elements of and mutate valid sequences. My evolution logic is now nearly the same as @Sp3000's, as his was an improvement over mine. However, my implementation of the maze...

 
5:38 AM
I think a crucial difference is that there global patterns weren't so important
as well as being able to fully sample the input space
 
@feersum I have no idea what "here" is. I was speaking more generally.
 
(whereas doing that with this requires 3**151 samples)
 
@El'endiaStarman cuuuuute
 
5:44 AM
@El'endiaStarman Wasn't that posted in here a couple of hours ago?
 
If it was, I missed it.
 
^ flag as spam
 
I'd rather flag as abusive tbh
 
5:48 AM
btw, beware of car stealing dogs..
 
6:41 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
7:43 AM
@feersum Oh, yup, it was. During a period when I wasn't watching the chat. By Alex himself, no less.
 
8:04 AM
0
Q: Displaying variable in a loop

james_vbaThe following VBA code contains an error. Upon print, the VBA code is supposed to loop through each sheet and echo out TRUE if a sheet is modified and FALSE if it is not modified. 'Sheet1... 100 Dim IsUpDated As Boolean Private Sub Worksheet_Change(ByVal Target As Range) IsUpDated = True End ...

 
8:25 AM
 
8:37 AM
0
A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

jimmy23013Using non-programming languages That is, to use something that was not considered a programming language in our criteria. I don't think this was really forbidden before. So here is something everybody can vote. If this is forbidden, you cannot use languages such as HQ9+ in any challenges. If n...

 
That's a new bot...
 
9:28 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's in the works.
 
9:44 AM
anybody here?
 
No.
 
@FlagAsSpam i.e. only you are here...
 
I declare myself as not here
 
@Pietu1998 cool with me...
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TanMathMake a search engine! code-golf Background You are now the first employee of DuckDuckGoogle, a company founded by a Google employee and a DuckDuckGo employee! They have a new vision for search engine! But obviously, they need to make a search engine first! However, they are bad programmers (n...

 
10:01 AM
-1
Q: Unique multiplication by ten

QwertiyWrite a statement that multiplies the (integer) variable by 10 and assigns result to the same variable. If your language has no integer type, you may assume that the value is an integer not greater then some limit (you can specify this limit yourself, but it defenitly have to be adequate). But y...

 
10:40 AM
0
Q: What day is that?

Christian IrwanYour task is to create a program that read the date in form yyyy-mm-dd The date is always AC and there is no year zero. That date uses Gregorian Calendar If there is less than four digit, the input will pad it with zero on the left. Your program then output what day in a week is that. Standa...

 
11:12 AM
@NewMainPosts This question has been voluntarily removed by its author. @Doorknob! Edit it out!
@NewMainPosts And this question is too broad. @Doorknob! Are you here?
 
11:31 AM
@BetaDecay Well damn I just saw this ping from a long time ago by messing around with search, sorry :p
Not sure you're interested in an answer now though, nearly 4 months late :p
 
11:43 AM
Has anyone else notices the servers acting weirdly?
 
@zyabin101 Please stop unnecessarily pinging me. It's very.... bothersome to have my inbox full of pointless notifications.
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@Åna here, have an account
 
11:59 AM
@ArtOfCode Ta, I'm in
 
U guys are related?
 
Yeah
 
And you know eachothers SE accounts??
Insane!
 
Kind of helps, if you want the mod to create your chat account for you...
 
What kind of chat account?
 
12:14 PM
@Ampora mehhhhhh
@FlagAsSpam \o/
 
12:49 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies Flag as offensive.
@AlexA. ^
@BetaDecay U still alive?
 
@BetaDecay 7? = 60|1?
And 9? = 80|1?
Where 80 = 4|20.
( "|" is just used here to say that you have to pronounce those numbers separately.)
99 = quatre-vinght-dix-neuf
 
@flawr This one. The one I'm talking on.
 
Why not creating one yourself?
 
I did, but the 20 rep requirement is cached, so normally I wouldn't be able to chat until the cache updates hours later. Get my bro to do it and he can make it instantly work.
 
1:07 PM
Nice to have a bro like @ArtOfCode =)
 
Useful being related to a mod :)
I mean it's not that I'm going to get special treatment, but it's far easier to ask for things to be done :)
 
Haha, true=)
 
 
1 hour later…
2:10 PM
The last message was posted 1 hour forever ago.
 
<BUMP>
@TimmyD Ninja'd me!
The next new main post should be a few minutes ago away. Just wait.
 
@MartinBüttner Incidentally, this is also where the (incorrect) phrasing "Ye olde" comes from.
"Ye olde" is a pseudo-Early Modern English stock prefix, used anachronistically, suggestive of a Merry England, Deep England or "old, as in Medieval old" feel. A typical example would be Ye Olde English Pubbe or similar names of theme pubs. == HistoryEdit == The anachronistic use of "ye olde" dates at least to the late 18th century, as seen in the image at below right (image 1908). The use of the term "ye" to mean "the" is based in Early Modern English, in which the could be written as þe, employing the Old English letter thorn, þ. During the Tudor period, the scribal abbreviation for þe was ...
 
0
Q: Convert between main and meta

zyabin101Create a converter that will convert between main Stack Exchange sites and meta sites. However, meta Stack Overflow was split with one site being meta Stack Exchange when the uniform meta for every website appeared. So, Stack Overflow matches meta Stack Exchange. However, there's a twist... No a...

 
2:33 PM
Does anyone else find it annoying that the post preview on main doesn't show the part you are editing so you have to scroll all the way down to check how it's looking on a long post?
 
Yes! Really annoying.
 
I've added a new suggestion to the mother meta feature request for it
 
In the previous message :)
 
D'oh
 
2:40 PM
:)
 
No time to read the whole thing, but I upvoted.
Jon Skeets tag-cloud on SO, generated with the mentioned tool:
 
@flawr Thanks!
That's beautiful
 
Would be nice to have the same thing for PPCG=) Too bad I'm not good at python. hint hint
 
Would it work with the same code just changing the domain?
 
Idk
 
2:44 PM
lol
 
@trichoplax Probably.
 
As the site formats are fairly consistent, it might just be a matter of editing line 47 here
 
3:13 PM
I love it when Southern speak shows up in code: bool waitTillAvailable
 
3:39 PM
@NathanMerrill Your avatar makes me happy every time I see it
 
hi all
anyone feel like helping me with Lyndon words?
before I set a bounty :)
 
mmmmmornin
 
I feel like you should be able to iterate over lyndon words for codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/69154/… and then multiply the number you get by n
but it gives the wrong answer :(
help! :)
hi @quintopia
 
that was a good fried egg sandwich. made it worth getting up
 
@quintopia a perfect reply
:)
 
3:55 PM
@Rainbolt thanks?
:P
 
@Doorknob confirmed its me
 

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