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18:00
@wizzwizz4 We all have no life, so yeah.
@RikerW Do you know how to get files back?
From a Pelles C compilation log - intermediate steps?
Nope. I use mac. But the one thing I do know is to keep backups.
I was actually about to share it with you guys. At least now I can improve it when I rewrite it from nothing.
@wizzwizz4 What did the program do?
I am sorry for your loss though.
I was thinking about this challenge and wondered if a single ";" would considered to be an infinite loop. Most interpreters will loop until any input is received. Since the challenge disallows taking input, it would literally loop forever. I'm sure that's a loophole, but is this loophole covered somewhere?
18:04
It efficiently generated Seed programs. I was 1/4 of the way to finding a Hello World in 6 hours. (I realised I had a typo, so I stopped the program and changed the random function from 3 to 2, but 3 takes the same time as 2, so it would've found the Hello World program in less than a day on a non-budget laptop.)
@wizzwizz4 Nice, I tried but gave up.
A pointer error must've caused it to write the null bytes into my file, then stumble upon some kernel memory and cause a segfault in the memory manager, crashing the system.
@mınxomaτ I didn''t know interpreters ran until input?
@wizzwizz4 Wow. That is catastrophic.
@RikerW Well, it is Windows 10.
WHY DID I UPDATE BEFORE FINISHING THE PROJECT?!? WHY!!!
Thus my use of macs, and 3 versions old at that.
18:08
@NathanMerrill that already exists..
its called PPCG
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no seriously, try it out
it has 98% accuracy level
@Optimizer Incorrect I'm afraid. 98% task completion level. But when it completes a task, it often completes it in several different languages, several times over.
all correct though
the incorrect ones are corrected automatically
or pruned
PPCG has a 98% answering rate. But a 100% accuracy rate when given an infinite stretch of time.
18:16
yus
well, i'd say 90th percentile is 1 week.
What is the size of an unsigned long in c? Just wondering...
By the way, The Ninetenth Byte has a 50% accuracy rate and a 97% answering rate, but it only has a 2% rejection rate.
how do you know that 50%?
66.(6) flags remaining
@CSᵠ Wat?
till this chatroom hits critical mass
18:21
OMG I was browsing tvtropes, and chrome says I have 34 tabs open.
@CSᵠ Surely you mean 56?
10 + 9934
65 sharp now
how did chrome say that?
@CSᵠ no, 55, right?
wight
18:23
There's 10 shown already, plus the 9935 other
what
btw, chrome actually meant, "you have 34 tabs open but none of them is google. you su**"
@Optimizer I mean tooltip count.
@Doorknob冰 since how?
@CSᵠ We're talking about the same thing, right? How far we are until 10k?
18:24
but doorknob is counting incorrectly
@Doorknob冰 yea, but all is 9938
its in total 9938 only
"show all 9938"
oh, I see
ugh
so, 61 again left...
18:25
shame on you. you are the oldest and the youngest mod here
:)
lol
Why is everybody staring stuff?
hey! mine was genuine.
as in the star on my comment
/me sighs
18:27
you are not unstarring them?
un-unstar mine
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its real
you should be even more ashamed
99% are bogus :)
18:28
the "shame on you.." line
just @Doorknob冰 DROP TABLE stars
mis-using mod powers... -_-
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@Doorknob冰 when you click to star stuff, how do you make it unstar and not star by you.
that would be RO powers also
@CSᵠ As if I have database access :P
18:29
no
liar
there's a separate ui for it..
DROP TABLE cthulhu
@RikerW ^^
Cool.
@Doorknob冰 ask and you shall be given... the key... to the index... on the database table
18:30
DROP TABLE users
DROP TABLE mods
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And then the site breaks down and we all go home. Boo hoo.
@CSᵠ That was just for the general public, wasn't it.
@CSᵠ BTW, we do have xkcd oneboxing with alt-text support.
DROP TABLE "Bobby); DROP TABLE students"
18:31
delete * from users where user_name like "%door%"
@CSᵠ please don't direct-link xkcd images
wow
nice, ty
@Doorknob冰 they do allow that
Also, slightly relevant xkcd.
@CSᵠ But then there's no hovertext
@Doorknob冰 And the resized image looks bad.
18:33
nods
@Doorknob冰 so then there's not a wrong way, but a better one instead...
How do you swap tables around in SQL?
@CSᵠ yes
@Doorknob冰 yes please
My Favorite:
18:34
He heard that...
What real coders think of PPCG.
Not the messy as much as accidentaly obfuscated.
Ok, stop the xkcds now.
@RikerW loled so hard at that one
@mınxomaτ Got it.
@mınxomaτ Darths and droids or Irregular okay?
...what?
18:43
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@RikerW I don't care. It was just too many oneboxes. They take up a rather large amount of screen space and we don't really need to post multiple in succession IMHO ( ←!).
How do you do XKCD oneboxes?
@wizzwizz4 It does it automatically
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A: Zero-width non-joiner allows unclickable titles

XMLbog‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌

what even is this
18:50
A zero width non-joiner?
@Doorknob冰 I mean, I know what it is, but still. This answer.
@AlexA. The answer makes me really uncomfortable, for layout reasons. shudders.
@balpha you know what else is boring? Unicode spaces. I'm just sayinJeff Atwood ♦ Mar 26 '10 at 6:09
Yeah yeah yeah. Why don't you two get a room, you and ASCII. — balpha ♦ Mar 26 '10 at 6:36
hahaha
I have an account I use with a blank username that posts blank questions, blank answers, and blank comments. My posts are everywhere - and nowhere. — user27414 Mar 25 '10 at 17:36
Instead of endless links to different xkcd comics, why not just post this:
I was half hoping that would onebox as a random comic...
18:53
I wonder what happens if I
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@trichoplax That's be pretty useless.
@Doorknob冰 And Doorknob was never heard from again
@Doorknob冰 (except for right here)
@Doorknob冰 (and here)
@mınxomaτ You're right. It would be better if it didn't show the bare link.
That's a nice challenge idea. Try write a zero-length buster, others try to crack it. Not a good format for PPCG though.
My mom made a reference to juicing avocados the other day.
O_O
Oh sorry, juic avodad
@AlexA. She reads your chat msgs :P
hi mom i love you
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Oct 9 at 16:35, by PhiNotPi
Sep 22 at 3:19, by Alex A.
@PhiNotPi hello i have quetions how does juice an avocado i have try for thirtee minut and no juic
19:01
Sep 22 at 3:23, by Alex A.
what hell is this thing in midle of avodad
@Doorknob冰 I now rigt, it make juicingg so herd
Why are Oracle's servers so slooooow. 17KB/s, are you kidding me...
@mınxomaτ Because the CEO is too busy yachting to care about your performance issues.
It's not even consistently bad.
@mınxomaτ Once I was really far away from a really slow router, and my computer displayed the speed in bytes per second.
19:06
.___.
@Doorknob冰 I had linux distro downloads display the ETA in weeks ...
Back in my music torrenting days (which are long behind me, officer!), I had an ETA in months.
when set my ap to channel 6 pc wouldn't even connect to router's admin webpage
took 5 minutes, literally
@AlexA. We use torrent to transfer dumps of data between sites. Until recently, I didn't know it could even display years. We ended up shipping the HDDs with UPS express.
19:08
haha
Yeah, use FedEx if you never want to see your data again. Better then formatting, and faster, too ...
@mınxomaτ Does it try to sort your bytes in order of size?
@AlexA. Even though, it still wasn't enough. Next fiber upgrade is coming in three months.
I seriously consider moving to Switzerland, cause a 1GBit/s residential connection is only $900/year over there.
I feel like there are better reasons to move somewhere than the Internet speed. :P
19:13
No.
@mınxomaτ Two things. First: GBits per second?!? Second: $900?!?
Google Fiber is in Austin and San Antonio but not Houston ;(
@wizzwizz4 I'd have to pay over 40 grand to get fiber to my business or home here in Germany. Our pipes carry 300MBit/s max. Also, Init7 (the swiss ISP) is net neutral.
@Doorknob冰 IIRC it's coming to Seattle... Just saying.
19:16
lel
@mınxomaτ Does a shared flight save on travel costs? ;'-D
At least 3 orders of magnitude faster than my internet usually is .-.
Doesn't make the bloody oracle servers faster though -.-
@mınxomaτ Seriously, if they can do 1GB/sec, they could advertise as 1024TB/sec and nobody's computers would be fast enough to check.
19:18
@wizzwizz4 Bits, not Bytes.
@mınxomaτ I know. Somebody could test 0.125GB/s, but not 1GB/s.
Imagine if you own a house in an Init7 area, you could bundle up to 5 1GBit/s streams together.
That's just ridiculous.
@mınxomaτ You still haven't realised that your hardware can't talk that fast.
@wizzwizz4 1gbps is testable in all modern computers
ethernet port usually comes at 10gbps nowadays
^
@wizzwizz4 Mine can for sure. Also, you don't have a single thing on this connection. TV, multiple PCs, NAS servers etc.
19:23
@wizzwizz4 dude, sata has been 6gbps for years now, you think ethernet would be any slower?
@Optimizer But after handshaking and TLS, is usable data really as fast as raw data? There's also data processing, data storage...
@mınxomaτ where is it from?
ಠ_ಠ
I can win any argument so long as I'm right enough.
@wizzwizz4 IO is probably 100 times slower than processing. So expect data processing at 1tbps :P
19:24
@Optimizer Not me, sadly.
Mine's this
where is that from ?
@Optimizer Could you specify this question?
country/isp
It says right on the picture.
also, to put it in other words. 1Gbps is merely 128MBps. USB 3.0 offers 300+MBPS data transfer pretty easily.
19:28
The limiting factor is the server upstream.
yeah, but we were being theoretical and just testing the speed..
so assumption was server has infinite bandwidth
Apparently I'm not right enough...
I give in.
@Optimizer Give up is to abandon something. Give in is to let somebody / something else win. Subtle difference.
give up is used for trying to win the argument
19:30
Both are correct here
so you abandon putting in any effort in trying
give in is actually more on lines on "hmm, i think you are right, i agree with you now"
@Doorknob冰 Imagine, how "touch the sky" is
19:43
Bye
@SuperJedi224 You're still here...
> seen 8m ago, talked 8m ago
It takes 15 minutes to auto-leave a chatroom
20:08
And another 15 to kill chat
20:23
Does someone know a decent (jQuery) dropdown snippet/"plugin"? Minimal things it has to have is nesting and icons. Something the like VS tree view: y60.imgup.net/vs15c250.png
Shouldn't be too hard to do without a plugin
I know, I just wanna know if there's anything already before re-inventing the wheel.
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Q: Visualize Parsons code

Helge von KochIntroduction The Parsons code is just a simple way to describe pitch variations in a piece of music, whether a note is higher or lower than the previous one. Even if you suck at remembering tunes, you can still pretty much remember if a note goes up or down, thus the Parsons code can help you t...

Thank you, @NewMainPosts.
20:42
sup
@mınxomaτ Something like jsTree?
20:55
@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Hm, yeah. Looks bad though, lot of restyling to do. I'll try it.
21:21
Someone @mention me!
@El'endiaStarman
YAY!
THEY WORK AGAIN!
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A: Simple @mentions do not notify, but direct replies to messages do

balphaFixed now, sorry about that. The fix for this issue involved treating the chat message as HTML before processing @mentions. This resulted in mentions of your display name being encoded as @El'endia Starman. Since an ampersand is not a legal character in a display name (and, by extension, in a...

okay, who upvoted
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Q: What is the smallest positive base 10 integer that can be printed by a program shorter (in characters) than itself?

ArandurI think the question as above is clear, but just in case: Write a full program (not just a function) which prints a positive base 10 integer, optionally followed by a single newline. Qualifying programs will be those whose output is longer (in bytes) than the source code of the program, measure...

we got the winning Retina, and like 10 languages that have a one-byte ten constant
not exactly interesting answers
(kudos to Martin, though, for finding the winning solution)
I have a 1-byte 59 constant :(
But no 10 constant?
21:27
why would you have that @Cyoce
the 59 constant is a bug
an empty number is interpreted as 59
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Makes sense.
something about the algorithm I used
more detailedish explanation here
For a fleeting moment I thought I also had a score-10 solution in Minkolang: l. Then I realized I needed N. for outputting the number. :(
21:36
aww, I hit rep cap :(
Dangit. Has to be an integer. Would've been great if I could've done $jN. which outputs (0.7071067811865476+0.7071067811865476j), a complex number with magnitude 1... :P
Silver math, at last. Thank you, diamond puzzles.
@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Only about 2 hours and 40 minutes until UTC 00:00 though.
@El'endiaStarman huh, forgot about that :D
does anyone know how to do multiline spoilers?
21:50
Just put a spoiler on each line.
because putting them right after one another puts them on the same line
Two trailing spaces
(on each line)
thanks
[blink] Wut.
I'm beginning to suspect more and more that new xkcd comics are becoming excuses to set up puns (see title text). :P
21:53
haha, perhaps
remember the pipe deflate to dev/keyboard one
I laughed for 5 minutes straight after that
Oh, LOL, that one. :P
@ThomasKwa Not I. It sounds vaguely interesting on first glance until you actually read it.
:O I'm so close to gold for this:
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Q: Increase reputation awarded for questions

Alex A.It has come to my attention that the amount of reputation awarded for questions can be adjusted on a per-site basis. For example, Stack Apps awards +10 reputation for question upvotes. As you probably already know, we currently award +5 reputation, as do most Stack Exchange sites, including Stack...

If it ever happens, it'll be the first time I've ever gotten a gold badge for a post.
@AlexA. Perhaps more impressively, ZERO downvotes.
wrong window -_-
22:00
...maybe I should delete that message to unjinx it...
hello fellow friends! anybody here?
any python guys or gals?
Yes and yes.
you know python, right?
22:07
I do.
ok.. knowing I have a problem with testing code, I want to ask you if there is anything wrong with this code or at least tell me things to check
can you please do that? the challenge is "which song is playing?"
Is there any reason you can't just test it yourself?
I can test it, but I think I may have not tested something... what testcases should I do?
Are there not testcases in the question?
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Q: Make a Unicorn interpreter

DoᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛRecently, I made a made a typo and I wrote unicorn instead of unicode, I did what any normal person would do and I made an esolang out of it. In this challenge you will be writing a Unicorn interpreter. Because Unicorn programs are horrible long, you'll have to write a short interpreter to compe...

22:14
> normal
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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@El'endiaStarman nope
i gues there are like 3...
@El'endiaStarman Was that an intended Princess Bride reference? When Inigo Montoya says, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
@AlexA. It was, actually, but I misremembered.
I can never remember the exact wording; I looked it up just now. :P
22:17
Well, that and "normal" is only used once, so...
haha
We should have a PPCG movie night and watch The Princess Bride.
SciFi did that a couple months ago, actually. No, that was Stardust. But I'm sure they've done The Princess Bride at some point.
um...
@AlexA. I've actually never seen that, although many people have told me I should
@Doorknob冰 What
22:23
Many people += 1
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@El'endiaStarman so?
@Doorknob冰 It's a staple for my family. Growing up we would watch it all the time. My sister's boyfriend hasn't seen it and my whole family is like ಠ_ಠ
@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ so unicorn characters are emoji??
He also hasn't seen any of the Star Wars films.
He's lucky he's a good guy because otherwise...
@AlexA. huh?
22:25
@AlexA. haha
Incidentally, I also haven't seen the new Star Wars thingy yet.
But I plan to soon
@TanMath They're considered emojis. My source is emojipedia
I haven't seen the new one. I don't know if I will. I grew up loving the original 3 but I really disliked episodes 1-3.
@TanMath Hmm?
@AlexA. how is Star Wars in the least bit related?
@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ really?
@TanMath it's a popular movie?
@Doorknob冰 but you guys were talking about another movie
22:28
@TanMath Seriously, Star Wars is huge. Almost as big as The Princess Bride.
@trichoplax I highly doubt a Princess Bride sequel would make more than 1 BILLION dollars in 12 days.
Yes. Star Wars: The Force Awakens did just that.
Stars Wars is almost as widely known as Pi: Faith in Chaos.
@AlexA. That had better not be another story featuring pi in the title but not in the content...
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@AlexA. You should like the new one. J.J. Abrams actually considered putting Jar Jar's bones on a sand dune in one scene. :P
I was very disappointed the first time I picked up Life of Pi in a book shop
22:31
Pi, also titled π, is a 1998 American surrealist psychological thriller film written and directed by Darren Aronofsky in his directorial debut. The film earned Aronofsky the Directing Award at the 1998 Sundance Film Festival, the Independent Spirit Award for Best First Screenplay and the Gotham Open Palm Award. The title refers to the mathematical constant pi. The film is notable for its covering of an array of themes including religion, mysticism and the relationship of the universe to mathematics. The story about a mathematician and the obsession with mathematical regularity contrasts two seemingly...
@Doorknob冰 You definitely should watch the original trilogy (4-6; A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi) before The Force Awakens.
@AlexA. I've read enough disturbing things about that film to never watch it.
(and by enough, I mean 1)
@trichoplax I liked it, personally. :P
@El'endiaStarman Oh, I've watched all of them multiple times.
@El'endiaStarman I agree - much as I liked The Princess Bride I can't see it doing as well. My original comment was intended as sarcasm but unfortunately I type sarcasm in the same tone of voice as everything else
@El'endiaStarman About what?
8 mins ago, by Alex A.
He also hasn't seen any of the Star Wars films.
Oh, you were talking about your sister's boyfriend.
@trichoplax All sarcastic comments should henceforth be CODE FORMATTED AN IN ALL CAPS.
@AlexA. I guess you can guess what puts me off, but I don't know how to do spoiler text in chat
@AlexA. THAT SOUNDS FOOLPROOF
[spoiler (hover to view)](example.com "this is some spoiler stuff")
@Doorknob冰 Nice. Thanks :)
that's really smart
22:35
@Maltysen I stole it from someone in scifi chat, I think. :P
Understandable :P
On a different topic...
Seriously, refreshing fixes it about 90% of the time.
Wow. They don't call it quickmeme for nothing
22:39
Well, that one existed before.
OK - I'm no longer impressed
Oh, by the way, @Doorknob冰...I just realized that SE's fix to the issue of silent pings broke @mentions for me.
Oh, something to do with the apostrophe in your name? >_<
(Or the space?)
> The fix for this issue involved treating the chat message as HTML before processing @mentions. (source)
I think I could just quote the whole answer, actually. :P (Continuing from the above quote:)
Yet another reason to re-instate stealth-pinging.
22:42
> This resulted in mentions of your display name being encoded as @El&#39;endia Starman. Since an ampersand is not a legal character in a display name (and, by extension, in a mention), only the @El part was considered valid. And because a mention needs at least three characters (excluding the @) this was simply ignored.
@El'endiaStarman Wow that was a pretty quick fix
Who woulda thunk it! :P
@trichoplax Thankfully! :P I should've raised it three weeks ago when I noticed it... :P
@El'endiaStarman It's amazing how many things go unfixed purely due to being unraised :)
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A: What song is playing?

TanMathPython 453 bytes This is a rough draft of a Python program. I believe it can be definitely golfed, maybe to 300-400 bytes. But will work on that soon. n=i=f=0 l=["Batman Theme","Neal Hefti","Na Na Hey Kiss Him Goodbye","Steam","Katamari Damacy","Yuu Miyake","Hey Jude","Beatles","Land of the 1...

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