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17:00
@Mast ah
@Pops I think some hats shouldn't exist then. Because well, people want hats. They'll do what they have to do for it. The "Sun Wukong" hat will be gamed. For most of the other hats, I don't see any reason why they would be gamed. I mean, we're having fun gathering hats, and some of them are "ungatherable". That's my opinion though, and it can be changed :p
@Malachi really?
why not?
or are you talking about my resume? I didn't think you were going to look at it until later?
Zak
Zak
@Pops Not even Hairboat's revenge?
@TopinFrassi Sun Wukong was testing out this badge idea. Apparently it's a no-go.
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17:02
Hairboat is... different
user image
3
mind blown
I like my hair boat :3
@Mast XD
My Summary is horrible
> I want employment with a company that will help to keep my skills current and push me to create and maintain good code, not just code that works
@Pops You're right. I don't think it's a good badge idea. Because well, some people will game badges. Apart from that particular case, I believe (but I have no stats or whatever) that gaming must not be that bad? I mean, probably people vote a little more, edit a little more, answer a little more etc.. than usual but it shouldn't hurt the site? Just increase activity?
Zak
Zak
17:04
@Pops Well then, maybe there should be more of a focus on aligning hats' criteria with the properties of genuinely useful posts. Arbitrary conditions like "Upvotes but no comments" are the kind of thing that encourage hat-gaming.
@Zak Oh, I didn't really think about that one. Maybe because it wasn't "one of mine," just a holdover from last year? But yeah. There's no real good behavior it's trying to promote. (I don't think it actually was "intended" to be gamed even last year, but the flood of pings was anticipated this year.)
XD
The post he made was hilarious
I bet he turned off notifications
@Zak Why would you say that's arbitrary?
New badge idea: getting banned from chat 3 times a week over the course of a month.
I think the upvotes and no comments is a good one
no one needed the question clarified, so it was a very good question
17:06
@Morwenn lol
> Great answer! Thanks a million!
- spoiled
Zak
Zak
@Pops Becuase you have no control over comments on either post, and there's no reason why lack of comments should be correlated with better-quality posts.
@Morwenn I think the system would automatically ban you for a long time.
It's a well-written question that required no "hey you weren't clear about X what did you mean" poking from anyone (which is what comments are for) and a well-written answer that didn't have any "hey this is close but part 5 doesn't work quite right" comments either.
@Zak comments were meant to clarify the content
17:07
Or, Malachi could have said it better while I was typing up my long-winded explanation.
Doesn't work with « thank you » comments.
lol sorry I wasn't faster
Zak
Zak
Sure, but like Mat said, all it takes is one "Thanks, that's awesome!" and poof! no hat for you.
Flag as too chatty.
That is how I got my gold flag badge.
Yup. It's also a reminder of what comments are supposed to be used for.
17:09
BTW, I should get C# gold badge in Winter Bash in about 4 years.
I bet I get it in November...
C# Gold badge isn't that hard, oh wait...I only have a Silver.....I better work on that too
I'm about halfway to silver.
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Q: How do I make this more efficient?

Liking_VBAI am still new to VBA. I recorded several actions that I need to perform to ensure that a specific worksheet is formatted properly. I know that the raw code from the recording can be shrunk down, but I would appreciate some assistance in figuring that out. Sub MasterSheetFormatTest() ' ' MasterS...

17:12
@Hosch250 lol
Wait a sec - they didn't write that code, the macro recorder did.
Is that legal?
I have absolutely no idea even of what you are talking about
Hmm. I might cap today.
Yay!
@CaptainObvious @HATMAN This post
17:13
@HATMAN Excel has a macro recorder
I might too on Blender.SE
@Phrancis Ah
You turn it on, click or do stuff whatever, and it writes the code for you
wow
@Hosch250 "code that you own or maintain" you could say it can qualify under "maintain" I guess. I think we had a meta about that at some point
It actually isn't that amazing.
17:15
^^
Yeah, you could.
Selenium has that too (a recorder). It's useful, but not necessarily "good code"
@Hosch250 If it was I would write WOW!! ;)
@Pops I checked out that SEDE query for the badge, with +/- 5 on Meta-CR there are only 2 posts that would even qualify: data.stackexchange.com/meta.codereview/query/409470
I've not gotten any grades back for a week. It is kind of boring over here.
17:17
Would the intention have been that each site would have a different threshold?
I don't know that controversiality would be something we want to encourage on SE.
You were right though in anticipating that a post with this kind of voting would be about a controversial-ish topic
I guess there is the -3 removed and Tumbleweed badges.
Which are both kind of negative badges.
@Phrancis It wasn't on the list under "common." Closer to "foil-embossed ultra-rare."
I just got a set of grades. Monotony broken.
17:23
How are they?
100%'s.
I was kind of expecting that, though.
@Pops If nothing else, I came up with an additional criteria that would allow you to reduce the +/- vote count without doing away with the "division" factor: data.stackexchange.com/meta.codereview/query/409476
@Hosch250 That's good, shoot high
17:24
Two discussions (I usually ace my discussions) from one class, and several from another.
@Hosch250 didn't say it in my answer, but... that's some pretty code! :)
Great answer.
I posted that one first because there is only one thing I can't test in it, and I'm 99% sure it works - selecting the reference.
The other one has three things, and I'm not quite done with the interface thing because I don't remember exactly how they go.
as you code is actually working I suggest you ask this question at codereviewdavejal 51 secs ago
OK, everybody, give @Mat'sMug 007: codereview.stackexchange.com/a/114054/34073
...for the record I didn't ask for this
but I'll take it :)
17:31
@Mat'sMug It's about what you deserve, it's about what you get ;-)
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This question looks like it might be a pretty good fit for Code Review.SE, provided that (a) you want every aspect of your code reviewed, not just some, (b) your code is already working, and (c) you're asking for a review of concrete, real code, not abstract design (whether or not it's expressed as code). If you agree with all of those, please read about what's on topic, and, if your question fits that, delete it here and repost it on CR. — Phrancis 22 secs ago
@skiwi Sounds familiar.
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Q: XML splitting query very slow

need_the_buzzI have a query to split the delimited string to multiple columns. The query is extremely slow and takes more than 5 minutes to run 80444 rows. How can I make the below query faster? WITH cte (Execution_ID,Intake_Generic_ID, [File_Name],F1,Report_Attributes) AS ( SELECT Execution_ID, Int...

@CaptainObvious MOAR XML-SQL
17:46
@Phrancis and then have XML codes that send emails?
@skiwi s/XML/HTML/ (I have actually done that before ;)
I doubt that... HTML is only a markup language
@skiwi HTML can actually send e-mails, for some values of can and e-mails
@Mast You mean the sendto?
For example, but not limited to.
17:49
someone point me to specifying the language in a code block?
@Malachi <!-- language:c# --> or something like that.
I can't remember it either.
csharp
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A: What is syntax highlighting and how does it work?

ben is uǝq backwardsWhat is syntax highlighting? Syntax highlighting allows code in posts to be highlighted based on the language it's written in, to make it easier to read. How does it work? Stack Exchange does not have its own syntax highlighting engine. It uses Google Code Prettify. Therefore, any bugs and fea...

I'd need one more upvote here for a necromancer badge + hat
^^ full syntax
17:50
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A: Architecture to cache data

TopinFrassiLet's go over the basics first! The indentation is quite a mess. But I suppose that might be related to the SE formatting. Otherwise, you should make your indentation coherent. Stuff like : public interface IGYDataAccess { void GetUserInfo(Action<GYUser, Exception> act, string id);...

I need the SQL one
<!-- language: lang-sql -->
it's not working in the preview....
17:53
@Malachi It's kind of weird-glitchy, sometimes I need to add <br> before or after the language hint
@Mat'sMug You should have 007 now.
Maybe save it if it doesn't work and I can try to fix it, it's tricky with XML mixed in the code though
Keep checking.
@Phrancis there isn't any XML given in the question, so I killed the tag
17:56
@Mat'sMug You have it now.
oh wow
@Malachi well there is some XML in the code (quoted as strings), I think would make more sense than though
why, thanks!
No, not I think that's something else altogether
17:57
I still need +2 to get Do It Yourself.
@Hosch250 already +1'd
That was you? Thanks.
@Phrancis doesn't xquery work off xpath strings?
17:59
59 secs ago, by Phrancis
@Malachi http://stackoverflow.com/tags/xquery/info
LOL
> XQuery and XSLT both use XPath:
^ from the W3C spec
So, in short, you were both right, and I was... wrong only partially informed ;)
xpath was the bane of my existence in a previous life
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I hate it with a passion, but sometimes have to resort to XQuery
sometimes it's faster to whip up a little console app that uses LINQ-to-XML, than trying to figure out what's wrong with the xpath string
18:04
VBA handle XML fine?
yeah, via the oh-so-frakked-and-deprecated MSXML2.DOMDocument API
formerly known as "bane of my existence"
you can use XPATH queries in LINQ, too
yeah, if you're a masochist
(nah, it's not that bad really)
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Q: how can i call two dictionaries in files?

monihow can i call two dictionaries to read_classification_from_file() and use the two called dictionaries in compute_confusion_matrix so i can print the first function without using testing as below example1.txt file contains {'em1': 'SPAM', 'em2': 'SPAM', 'em3': 'OK', 'em4':'OK'} example2.txt f...

it pales in comparison to the frustration I've encountered supporting legacy VB6 MSXML code over the years :|
18:09
@Malachi Arqade
@DanLyons I think that is what @Mat'sMug was talking about.
@Mast yeah, not GameDev anymore is it
@DanLyons try VBScript with MSXML
I only code vbscript with the delete key ;o
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and trying to get the right xPath for what you want.
and then trying to figure out why it doesn't work in the application and what will work...there was many a time I had to write more code than was truly necessary, if only they updated their MSXML!
Guys I know that I'm not everyday user here but do you know chat room dedicated to swift?
18:15
I've found it but.. yea.
@Malachi exactly
@Dudi Not being an everyday user doesn't forbid you from asking questions here! :)
@TopinFrassi this is IRC habit :)
@Dudi never knew what IRC means :p
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/12/15/youknow-com/
CommitStrip
Youknow.com
CommitStrip
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18:17
2 moar upvotes till silver c# badge!
I need to post another answer and rep-cap today
legit
@TopinFrassi you're lucky guy :)
@Dudi That's hard work my friend :p
IKR?
My question is already HNQ.
Bring the votes in!
18:22
practices music for 8 hours a day for a dozen years Wow, you are really talented!
Seems kinda mean really
Work
That is what it is
TFL.
@TopinFrassi Now I'm feeling old...
@HATMAN does sticking with something for a dozen years count as a talent?
Hard work
Talent means it is easier for them
Talent for patience.
18:24
lol
I did some piano when I was little, but I stopped when I realized my brain knew how to play the songs I wanted to play, but my fingers wouldn't listen :P
:P
I have been playing for four years now
@DanLyons I know the feeling. Started playing differently after that realization.
I no longer read the music. I just play and memorize.
And since my hearing is slightly impaired, that doesn't always work out for the best.
I improvise mostly
But I'm never playing for audience, so who gives anyway.
I'm having fun.
18:27
I sight read the melody and base, and figure out the chord, and just go from there
It's not piano though, it's harmonium.
Goes a bit slower, so easier to play if you have stubborn fingers.
Thing can take a bit of force as well, they aren't fragile.
But we're wandering waaay off-topic.
A little
have you tried codeReview? they have time for this. :) people here want straight to the question type of question — Elltz 27 secs ago
18:33
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Q: What is the origin and thought process behind the tradition of hats?

HATMANWinterBash is always a lot of fun and makes people trek across sites and participate in communities they are not usually a part of, but how did they originate? What was the thought process behind introducing this tradition?

@Duga We have time?
@Elltz We don't have more "time" on Code Review than folks have on Stack Overflow :p Anyway, Code Review requires working code to review, and as we can see here, well... the code isn't working — TopinFrassi 5 secs ago
The code certainly looks a bit messy. But still you should focus on single specific problems when asking on stackoverflow. Consider the following: first do as much cleanup as you can do and then re-ask the question on CodeReview. But you should probably not ask it the way it is right now. — grek40 54 secs ago
@Elltz Broken code is explicitly off-topic at Code Review. — Mast 29 secs ago
@Duga That is accurate though
This chat room has become very busy now. An year back, not much traffic here.
2 years back, we were 4, maybe 5 (or 6?)
18:43
Now random strangers wander by
Mat and Jamal and I were random strangers 2 years ago
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Q: Javascript - Find the max sequence finder

overexchange Problem Statement Find the max sequence finder. findMaxSequence([3, 2, 3, 4, 2, 2, 4]); findMaxSequence([3, 5, 4, 6, 1, 2, 3, 6, 10, 32]); findMaxSequence([3, 2, 1]); Expected Output [ 2 , 3 , 4 ] [1, 2, 3, 6, 10, 32] no Solution <script type="text/...

@Malachi You shouldn't need help to keep your current skills.
Hey Mat, how are you?
@SimonForsberg yeah, I re wrote that whole thing
it now says
> My last position was a mix and match type of position where I picked up whatever project needed an owner, so my experience is a little more than just programming or just project management. I am comfortable speaking with clients and bridging the gap between technical savvy people and non-technical savvy people. My skillset has no limit because I am willing to learn
18:46
@Mat'sMug Say I have a QualifiedSelection? - how do I get a QualifiedSelection?
IIRC an extension method returns it from a CodePane
I have _editor.GetSelection().
That is a QualifiedSelection?.
sounds right
Can I just do a cast to get rid of the nullable?
Oh, I can do .Value.
lol
only if the nullable has a value though
18:48
or coalesce it with a default value
GetValueOrDefault().
nullable ?? default
@Malachi 1. What is your current position? 2. "My skillset has no limit" - I'm not buying that.
@SimonForsberg My Current Position is unemployed
@SimonForsberg it's "My skillset has no limit because I'm willing to learn"
18:49
Learning takes time though
but yeah lol
What is the limit at the time of starting the job?
@Malachi Then you can say that you are looking for a new job. Or open for hire.
@Mat'sMug I'm also willing to learn but I am fully aware that my skillset is limited.
BTW, I'm furious with R#.
@Hosch250 you've always been furious with R#
18:51
They broke their context menu selection so I either have None or R#. The VS context menu selects None.
how are you limited @SimonForsberg? what stops you from adding new skills?
Now, a single-click on an item enters it instead of showing me the doc and return type.
@Hosch250 R# wasn't really made with a "toggle it on and then off and then on again and then off" use-case in mind
@Mat'sMug I'm not doing that.
It is on all the time, but the settings don't work.
Oh, I got it to work.
I had to chose Custom and set each one individually.
-1
Q: How to return to cin if the input is not valid?

B.HadzhiHey guys so I recently started learning coding in general and just started doing the exrecises from http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/articles/12974/ I am currently doing the grading program but I can't figure a way to make the user input numOfPoints again, if they don't input a double between 0 and...

18:53
I guess that skills could mean different things to different professions, where as it would take me longer to learn how to build a house or work construction than it might take someone that is more oriented to that kind of thing.
but we are talking about programming... not building houses, or roads, or furniture. we are talking about different ways of writing code to communicate with a machine.
I see the only limit being time.
@Hosch250 in OneNote can you make a sections template you can insert into a page? Say for example a code-block section that had a set font?
@Phrancis They already have a code formatting section.
Really!
Check the Styles menu.
It formats it as Consolas.
@Phrancis if you had the [LearnOneNote] app, you'd know ;-)
19:04
@Mat'sMug Nope.
I never got the OneNote 2013 finished.
It was just Windows Phone and Windows Store 8.1.
if I had the [LearnOneNote] app, I'd have known
19:04
LOL.
I was working on it, and I got maybe halfway done, but I got sick of just writing and not programming.
I got Do It Yourself!
We are tied with ELL.
And I'm holding second for CR.
I need to get the answer-in-30-min.
@Hosch250 tied with ELL in terms of?
And Do You Even Lift.
@Caridorc Hats.
@Mat'sMug This wouldn't be bad, would it?
I just wrote some 30 lines of code to check for missing web-pages in a website, it is very straightforward, should I post it for review?
_declarations = parserState.AllDeclarations.Where(i => !i.IsBuiltIn && i.DeclarationType == DeclarationType.Variable).ToList();
@Caridorc Sure.
Every time I search _declarations, I have to check for those conditions. I figured it would be easier and faster to just do it once.
I'm starting to think parserState needs a method that takes a Predicate<Declaration> and returns and IEnumerable<Declaration>
@Hosch250 that'll certainly perform better
19:12
I'll add it to my answer.
We can probably use similar tricks in a great many places, particularly the IsBuiltIn thing.
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Q: Utility class for robust EBO

5gon12ederIn modern C++, many classes accept a policy type as a template parameter. The author of the class does not know in advance what kind of policy its class will be instantiated with. If the policy class is empty, it would be desirable to inherit from it so to leverage the empty base optimization (EB...

0
Q: simple random generator

MORTALBased on this question, i have made simple program to print a sequence of random numbers. the program seems run fine but, I would like to know if my implementation is correct and how can I improve it. #include <random> #include <array> #include <algorithm> #include <functional> #include <iostream>...

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Q: Find missing web-pages

CaridorcYou are writing your web-page and relentlessly add links, as you think that links are the best thing a web-page can offer. The fact is that you write links even to pages that do not exist just yet, because you will write them later. But later becomes a lot later and now you have your website in...

@Hosch250 Yeah already got an upvote :)
I'm going bird hunting (binocular-hunting, not gun-hunting) now, see you later.
bird watching
@Hosch250 but.. but... but.. HATS??!!
should be hat hunting...
19:26
but.. but... but.. LIFE??!!
:P
I'm looking for a cool/complete/not too old functional language to learn. Would you guys have anything to propose?
I just had to chase a pigeon away from my window, who was screaming war cries, goddamn I love waking up too early.
@TopinFrassi Haskell
Mind bending at its purest
@Phrancis when you have a second, I'll take a second opinion on my XQuery/TSQL answer :)
@Caridorc I just read an article in the Forbes magazine that said I should start with Haskell. :p
Haskell it'll be I guess
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19:36
Find the longest ordered subsequence in a list
subseq :: Ord a => [a] -> [a]
subseq = maximumBy (comparing length) . filter isSorted . inits
    where
      isSorted xs = xs == sort xs
Well, right now that makes no sense. :p
Anybody want to throw some Vote Early, Vote Often votes towards a Speedy Delivery attempt?
Welcome to 1K!! — Mat's Mug ♦ 7 secs ago
always feels good to be that vote :)
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Q: Euler Project 14 - Longest Collatz Sequence in PHP

FarazThis is my solution to Euler Project Problem 14 <?php $count = 0 ; $max = 0; for($n = 2 ; $n < 1000000 ; $n++){ while ($n > 1) { if ($n % 2 == 0 ) { $n = $n/2; } else { $n = 3*$n + 1 ; } $co...

@Heslacher I was pretty much dying of sleepyness at that stage, I'm surprised it didn't turn out like: 'sdvksnkvsd' or something
19:40
possible answer invalidation by vnp on question by Yan: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/114039/revisions
@Malachi Just because I can learn anything doesn't mean that my current skillset is unlimited.
also, it's not because you learned something that you're skilled at it :)
You guys are awesome
otherwise this site wouldn't need to exist
Okay, who wants some votes
19:44
me! me! me!
An "unlimited skillset" sounds like Liam Neeson in Taken. :p
@Barry Weelll.... I need one upvote here for Necromancer badge
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A: Architecture to cache data

TopinFrassiLet's go over the basics first! The indentation is quite a mess. But I suppose that might be related to the SE formatting. Otherwise, you should make your indentation coherent. Stuff like : public interface IGYDataAccess { void GetUserInfo(Action<GYUser, Exception> act, string id);...

I am skilled at programming, my skillset is the different technologies that I can program in.
5 votes left
should I just not use the word skill?
This question could do with another answer
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Q: Gretchen and the Play solution from Indeed Contest on hackerrank.com

YanThis was one of the tougher challenges on hackerrank.com because the solution had to run under 4s time limit. I had to do a lot of optimization for this one. I had to switch from using Java 8 to Java 7 which for some reason ran much faster and didn't time out on some of the cases. Any commen...

19:45
Well, that was really fast
Thanks!
Hat and badge, that's something
@Mat'sMug Looks pretty good, there's only so much more you can do besides telling them DON'T DO IT THAT WAY
@Phrancis cool, thanks!
apparently OP agrees
and +210 today, I'm getting [badge:epic] and a hat for getting a silver badge! :)
@Caridorc wouldn't that only take the longest ordered prefix?
Hi @everyone btw (out of the lurk)
Thanks for your answer. I took out the order by and the CTE from the query. The query is done in like 14 seconds now. I agree to your comment to use the table valued function for better performance, but we are prohibited from creating functions in production. — need_the_buzz 31 secs ago
what happens if you have a function in dev/test? you can't deploy it in production?
@Caridorc I think it was me (the first upvote)! And I'm still surprised people still do plain old html site.
19:53
@Mat'sMug Gratz!
:)
caching is annoying
Zak
Zak
@Marc-Andre You shouldn't be surprised. There's also some Commodore 64 questions knocking around IIRC
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Q: Count the number of unique elements in a sorted array

cody.codes Write a method named numUnique that accepts a sorted array of integers as a parameter and that returns the number of unique values in the array. The array is guaranteed to be in sorted order, which means that duplicates will be grouped together. I'm mainly concerned with following proper co...

@Zak I know there's a C-64 FizzBuzz somewhere :)
Zak
Zak
@Mat'sMug There's 2 actually :)
19:55
Zak
Zak
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Q: Commodore-FizzBuzz

Mat's MugI felt nostalgic recently, and decided to install a Commodore-64 emulator. C-64 BASIC 2.0 is the first language I ever programmed in... some 20 years ago (yes, C-64 was already well beyond deprecated by then). Implementing a simple fizzbuzz in such a limited language, and un-learning pretty much...

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Q: FizzBuzz in Commodore Basic

Mark1 REM 2 REM FIZZBUZZ IN COMMODORE BASIC 3 REM 10 FOR I = 1 TO 100 20 IF (I/3)=INT(I/3) THEN PRINT "FIZZ"; 30 IF (I/5)=INT(I/5) THEN PRINT "BUZZ"; 40 IF (I/3)<>INT(I/3) AND (I/5)<>INT(I/5) THEN PRINT I; 50 PRINT 60 NEXT I I'm not happy with the tests for "multiple of 3" and "multiple of 5". Us...

next, [gold:copy-editor]
I'm catching up on the edits leaderboard
@Zak I'm more surprise with plain old html than Commodore 64 questions. It's has more to do with what the web have become that being old. A plain old html take "more" time than using a CMS or any other option (this is a really personal and biased opinion:).
@Mat'sMug Nice!

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