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¿Cómo?

0celo7

@tchrist I don't speak...whatever language that is.

Mitch

12:28 AM

@Robusto chrisc36.github.io/deep-go

1:41 AM

@tchrist Stupid car!

Is that you?

Shoot, let me check.

It's a VW clone and the wrong letters. The rest is similar.

I have an Audi wagon.

So you're not the cyclist?

No, but it does look a lot like my cousin.

For some reason, that road looks a bit dangerous for bikers?

But at least it has a bike lane.

Ah, I see.

Well, it always had a bike lane.

They got rid of two car lanes though in addition.

And this made for trouble.

See the linked article.

1:44 AM

Hmm.

Oh, I hadn't noticed the link.

Most of our roads have a bike lane in either direction.

Hello!

Bike lanes are cropping up in my area.

Local singles, too.

Good.

I'm down with bike lanes as long as they are used.

?

College towns should have more bikes than cars.

1:49 AM

Oh, no. I mean I don't want to see a bike in the car lane if there's a perfectly serviceable bike lane.

Jez

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 local singles?

And . . . college town?

@Jez They're waiting to meet me.

Jez

spam?

If a small sign on the side of the road can be spam, then yes.

Which, yeah.

2:22 AM

> What do you call the habit of looking into smartphone while walking in English?

Sometimes I walk in Spanish.

Jez

idiocy?

I do walk around reading a paperback at times.

3:40 AM

@tchrist Paperback strider, eh?

5:41 AM

smbc-comics.com/?id=3445

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8:27 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: meaning of mother fucking engo player by vinay kumar on english.stackexchange.com

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8:39 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: What does “engo player” mean? by vinay kumar on english.stackexchange.com

9:55 AM

@tchrist an interesting example of a headline that is utterly impenetrable to anyone who's not written it.

10:36 AM

Oxford Dictionaries’ 2015 Word of the Year Is This Emoji

Hello, I'd like to ask if the phrase is correct: "Please refer to this page for a detailed explanation.". The concern is about "refer to ... for".

It is grammatical but nonsensical. Unless the "this page" bit is a link. In which case it shouldn't read "this page".

Also, the please probably does not belong in there.

@RegDwigнt That's kind of a sentence in context, actually I'm going to use "it" instead of "this page", so I guess that shouldn't be incorrect. But why "please" may not fit?

Why do you think it does? What is its role there?

I think that's a more polite way to give some information.

10:49 AM

Do not say please unless you are begging for something. Are you begging them to look at the additional information? Why? They should be the ones begging you for it.

@id256 you already are polite by giving them the information. Now why do you crawl on your knees telling them to please look at it?

The impolite thing would be to not provide the information. But you do provide it.

@RegDwigнt Haha, I got your point.

@id256 if the sentence is in context, you probably want to shorten the whole thing dramatically.

If you say "it" instead of "this page", that means that you have to use a whole another sentence before it to define what the "it" is. So that means the whole thing reads something like "We have another page blah. Refer to it for a detailed explanation". Which can be shortened considerably.

Anyhoo, that should be enough advice for this tiny bit.

Going back to discussing how retarded the Oxford Dictionaries are.

@RegDwigнt OK thanks

So to sum it up: the Oxford Dictionaries are so retarded, not only is their word of the year a) not a word and b) not included in any of their dictionaries, but c) the runners-up on their short list include ad blocker and the singular they.

Nicely showcasing that they are behind the times 15 years and 1500 years, respectively.

I for one will not use or recommend a dictionary that is 1500 years behind the times.

(Obligatory caveat emptor: Oxford Dictionaries ≠ The Oxford English Dictionary.)

user174558

11:59 AM

I see Mari's question on meta.

user174558

I suspect the mod in question is Reg, just a gut feeling.

Congratulations, Jasper, on being wrong for the 52 bazillionth time.

Throw your guts away, they're worth less than worthless.

user174558

They are priceless.

Yes. No matter what price you name, they're less.

user174558

My favourite dictionary is OALD.

user174558

12:13 PM

Just enough words for me, who use very few words.

user174558

I am listening to Alfredo Kraus.

user174558

And now there are three: Mari, Maria, and Mariah.

12:53 PM

Greetings people!!!

What is the right way to say it: "My problem to the book" or "My problem for the book"?

I was suggested my first version is wrong. So, is it wrong?

@Chris'ssistheartist I think you want "My problem with the book."

@Robusto I see. And how about if I say "Another awesome integral ready to my book!"?

for my book.

In general it's ready for when having a noun.

@Robusto Yes. It's wrong to use to?

In that context, yes.

"My book was ready to go, so I sent it out."

"Here is some new material for your book."

1:04 PM

@Robusto Great!

"Another awesome integral is ready to add to my book!"

@Robusto If I take out from context that ready then I can say "Another awesome integral to my book!"?

No.

That's interesting. @Robusto, thanks a lot for explanations!

@skillpatrol Right! That happens when we have a verb.

:-)

1:07 PM

@skillpatrol Thanks! :D

np pal

1:24 PM

@Robusto Great!

Another awesome rod and a half to my hogshead!

@RegDwigнt Not for your book. You need to pay royalties.

In US dollars :P

Q: I am fifty years old, not *fifteen*

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What. Is. This. Hollering?

Masterful bit of clickbait marketing on the word of the year from ex-colleagues this morning. It's NOT A WORD, oh yes it is, oh no it isn't

Tweeted by Jenny_Alto on November 17, 2015 at 8:41 AM

@MattE.Эллен That is not a tweet. It is a tween.

1:35 PM

why are you so tween to me?

@Robusto Great!

@MattE.Эллен She tried in Twain, but he never caused her nothing but shame.

user174558

I have a friend who sometimes treats me in nasty ways. Should I stop seeing him? I am not sure what kind of person he is.

NARQ

user174558

I am a bit confused about his character. It is hard to fathom him.

We know them even less, not to mention that we don't know them at all, yet we are supposed to be better judges of the situation?

We should be asking you what kind of character he is.

Not the other way round.

user174558

1:40 PM

Do you have this kind of experience?

user174558

He might be yet another psychopath.

Hoy está más fria que ayer.

user174558

Eine kleine Nachtmusik

@RegDwigнt You would make a poor psychoanalyst. You're supposed to ask for money before offering advice.

user174558

I have seen two psychologists. Both said stupid things to me.

1:42 PM

Should've offered them money.

user174558

I realised that they are not gods, just human, like me.

user174558

I don't think any psychologist can help me, but meds may help, so I continue taking them.

Well, maybe not like you, but human.

@Mitch I must admit the creek in the neck is playing up a bit. The post is easy enough to find. It won't take you long. — Mari-Lou A 37 mins ago

A creek in the neck? That sounds dire.

user174558

Her English is too deep for me.

Yet not deep enough for me.

1:45 PM

@Robusto I have asked you for money seventy times by now, and offered zero advice.

She displays her pineapplese from time to time.

In conclusion, I'm the most excellent psychoanalyst of them all.

user174558

'Creek in the neck' is not in my lexicon.

You, however, are not a good payer.

Or perhaps you're a hobo.

I can't tell. I will, however, for $3000.

@RegDwigнt Jump back, Herr Kapitalismus. I'm not the person asking for advice here. Talk to El Jasper.

user174558

1:46 PM

ISIS=SHIT

@Robusto Jump back, Herr Jasperfriend. I am not the person talking to Jasper here.

You were and are.

I have spent years of training in a Saudi camp to avoid talking to Jasper.

user174558

Saudi camp? Where is this going?

No, not going, coming. And I am not a this.

user174558

1:48 PM

There must be many camels there.

@RegDwigнt Also, Dude, Jasperfriend is not the preferred nomenclature. Jasperfreund, bitte.

user174558

Saudi = Camel

@Robusto you said it man. Nobody fucks with the Jasper.

@Jasper stop your racist bullshit already. It wasn't funny the first time around. We've got enough people killed, thank you.

user174558

Anyway, I was thinking why the men there wear those white hats, or whatever you call them.

user174558

If it is so hot, I prefer to air my hair.

1:51 PM

Like these white hats?

Roy Rogers is riding tonight.

No. These men are cowards.

user174558

There, white hat.

@Robusto there weren't any shots. It's a heart attack.

Due to Marlboro, no doubt.

1:52 PM

And this guy peed on it.

Keffiyeh

The keffiyeh or kufiya (Arabic: كوفية‎ kūfiyyah, meaning "from the city of Kufa" (الكوفة); plural كوفيات kūfiyyāt), also known as a ghutrah (غُترَة), shemagh (شماغ šmāġ), ḥaṭṭah (حَطّة), mashadah (مَشَدة), chafiye (Persian: چَفیِه‎‎) or cemedanî (Kurdish: جه مه داني‎), is a traditional Middle Eastern headdress fashioned from a square scarf, usually made of cotton. It is typically worn by Arabs, Kurds and some Jews It is commonly found in arid regions as it provides protection from sunburn, dust and sand. Its distinctive standard woven checkered pattern may have originated in an ancient Mesopotamian...

@Jasper thank you for explaining your point and then explaining it some more and then explaining the explaining while explaining the explaining.

Kefir

Kefir (russisch Кефи́р Kefir), (vom türkischsprachigen Wort köpürmek „schäumen“) ist ein dickflüssiges, kohlensäure- und leicht alkoholhaltiges Milchgetränk, das ursprünglich aus Russlands Nordkaukasus-Region stammt. Kefir entsteht durch einen Gärungsprozess, typischerweise durch Milchsäurebakterien wie Lactococcus lactis und Lactobacillus acidophilus, Hefen wie Kluyveromyces marxianus und wenig Essigsäurebakterien. Daneben gibt es noch den Wasserkefir, der auf der Vergärung von Zucker in wässriger Lösung basiert. Kefir ist neben Choormog und Kumys eines der Milchprodukte, bei deren Herstellung…

Use that for a white hat, yo.

user174558

@RegDwigнt It is also white.

THANK YOU JASPER

Kiefer Sutherland

Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland (born 21 December 1966) is a British-born Canadian actor, film producer, and film director. He has won an Emmy Award, a Golden Globe Award, two Screen Actors Guild Awards, and two Satellite Awards for his portrayal of Jack Bauer on the Fox series 24. Since 2001 Sutherland has been associated most widely with the role of Bauer. He also starred as Martin Bohm in the Fox drama Touch and provided the English voice of Venom Snake/Big Boss in the video games Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Sutherland...

1:54 PM

@RegDwigнt Why does German Wikipedia give what the term is in Russian?

@Robusto because it's a Russian word.

Well, unless you dig further to find köpürmek.

@RegDwigнt Then why does en.wikipedia not mention that?

@Robusto because it is Wikipedia.

You want it to mention that, you make it mention that.

NOÜ.

Eggsacktly.

In America, nobody mentions the kefir for fear of racism.

user174558

1:56 PM

Racism is a stupid term. It does not exist.

They all drown in black Russians before they admit Whiterussia is even a country.

@Jasper YOU DO NOT EXIST.

@RegDwigнt Easy, man, there's a beverage here!

user174558

We all make generalisations in daily life.

You only exist in my mind, and only for as long as I don't tell my mind to go mind its own fucking business.

user174558

So if we see that many X are Y, it is not stupid to assume that an X is Y until we get further information.

user116848

1:57 PM

@Jasper I was using some Arab model's pic as my avatar a while back :)

user116848

And hi all.

user116848

By "a while back" I mean few months ago.

@Jasper except that racism is more about oppression than over generalisation

Kiefern

Die Kiefern, Föhren oder Forlen (Pinus) bilden eine Pflanzengattung von Nadelholzgewächsen (Pinophyta) in der Familie der Kieferngewächse (Pinaceae). Die Kiefern sind die einzige Gattung der Unterfamilie Pinoideae. == EtymologieBearbeiten == Mit Föhre verwandte Wörter sind in fast allen germanischen Sprachen vorhanden, z. B. englisch fir (was aber heute der englische Begriff für Tanne ist). Das Wort Kiefer ist erst ab dem 16. Jahrhundert belegt und ist vermutlich durch Zusammenziehung von ahd. kienforha (Kienföhre) entstanden. == BeschreibungBearbeiten == Kiefern sind einhäusig getrennt...

user174558

@RegDwigнt This is green, not white.

1:59 PM

Shut the fuck up Donny, you're out of your element.

user174558

That line came from Robusto.

user174558

Which in turn came from a show.