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Braiam

2:47 AM

Frankenstein "It's Alive" Scene

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terdon

1:22 PM

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 30 mins ago, by fossfreedom

if there are any Debian devs hanging around here - any chance you could sponsor me please for my package upload? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804100

@cas ^^

Feel free to ignore, of course, but fossfreedom's a nice guy and knows his stuff.

2 hours later…

Faheem Mitha

3:00 PM

@terdon Asking via the Debian Mentors site is customary, though.

terdon

@FaheemMitha He already has.

Faheem Mitha

@terdon Oh

terdon

mentors.debian.net/package/rhythmbox-plugin-alternative-toolbar

Faheem Mitha

@terdon Yes, I see it now.

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Anonymous

7:42 PM

Hello everyone. What exactly is openSUSE Leap? I heard it is the next v of suse, but it is 42 instead of 13.3 or 14.x

Faheem Mitha

8:19 PM

@casey Well, Patrick replied. He was quite helpful. But it sounds like Open Dylan is a bit of a mess, build wise. And the devs don't seem particularly interested in improvement. All in all, probably better not to get involved.

Thanks for your help with that.

cas

8:34 PM

@terdon, looks like someone's already taken it on, replied to the ITP "bug" with a review and todo list of things to check or fix.

Faheem Mitha

@cas Well, that's helpful.

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casey

10:09 PM

@FaheemMitha yea, I noticed the ebuild had some kludges with comments about "naughty build system"

Faheem Mitha

10:21 PM

@casey Exactly. I've never heard a build system described as naughty before.

cas

@FaheemMitha, you mean "do i want to volunteer to mentor someone who's packaging something i know nothing about and care even less about"? mentoring involves a lot more than just uploading whatever they produce whether it's good or crap.

Faheem Mitha

@cas Sorry, you lost me. What were you replying to?

cas

@FaheemMitha "well, that's helpful"

Faheem Mitha

@cas I was talking about the guy who volunteered to help out fossfreedom.

I said he was being helpful. Maybe that was boringly obvious. If so, apologies.

cas

ah, okay, sorry. i read it as snark saying "that's not helpful".

or "you should be more helpful"

Faheem Mitha

10:32 PM

@cas Oh. Well, you obviously spend too much time around British people. Or something. They like the snark.

@cas I see.

cas

i'm australian. we out-snark the brits.

Faheem Mitha

@cas Oh. :-)

cas

sarcasm is our native language.

Faheem Mitha

Weird ways of spending the time: sit in Google Maps Street View and look at places you used to live in a continent or two away.

@cas Hmm, maybe I would not enjoy Australia then. Though I've always planned to visit. Maybe check out the kangaroos and wallabies and platypuses and koalas.

I'm told koalas are cute.

cas

check out Healesville Sanctuary in Victoria. zoo.org.au/healesville - you can even wade in a pool with platypuses. koalas are cute, smelly, and bad-tempered...and they will piss on you with eucalypyt scented urine.

eucalyptus

Faheem Mitha

10:38 PM

@cas Bad-tempered? Really? Bang, there goes another illusion. I imagined soft and cuddly. Like a plush toy.

Apparently they eat only eucalyptus leaves. When I read that somewhere, I thought it was a joke. But apparently it's true.

cas

yep, it's true. and only particular kinds of eucalypt leaves.

Faheem Mitha

@cas Anthony Towns is a fellow countryman of yours. Ever hung out with him?

@cas Weird. Why aren't they extinct?

cas

i've met him a few times. he lives in sydney iirc and i live in melbourne. about 1000kms apart.

they're not extinct because there are a lof of eucalypts in australia.

Faheem Mitha

@cas Oh. He sounds like a character. And I guess AU is a big place. Big enough, anyway.

@cas There must be.

cas

eucalypt forests are very fire prone (because of all the oil in the leaves and bark). and they're very good at surviving fires, some have even evolved to require fire to open their seed pods. lots of other species can't cope with the fires and die off.

california has discovered that after they planted lots of .au eucalypts (because they're hardy and drought-tolerant).

Faheem Mitha

10:43 PM

@cas I see. Interesting.

cas

,au is roughly the same size as continental US.

and there's a LOT of empty space (forest in the nice parts, desert in most of it) between towns...dozens or hundreds of kilometres with barely even a house or farm.

Faheem Mitha

@cas It is? That's news to me.

I thought the US was much larger.

Well, sleep time, I guess. Take care, everyone.

cas

Australia (continent)

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