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04:06

We had gathered that raw information, but had yet to put it all together.

9 hours later…

Malachi

13:19

lol

never thought about that actually....lol

4 hours later…

skiwi

17:11

Woah

A: Driving into garage where there is little room for error?

A common solution I have seen is to have a tennis ball (or similarly soft item) that can be hung from the ceiling. (You may be able to purchase a kit made for this purpose.) With the assistance of another person, drive your vehicle into the garage to a place where you have clearance on both sides...

TopinFrassi

That's really cool, I didn't know that

skiwi

I just realized why we have such thing in our garage

EBrown

It basically means that if collection is null, then it won't bother pulling that index.

@skiwi We never needed them at my dads as the garage was a large barn with ~16ft of clearance. Lol

Though, I have to say, I would put one on my garage if I ever get one.

Hosch250

In our garage, we pull the van in until the antenna hits the bikes hanging from the ceiling.

skiwi

@EBrown Is there a story of how someone still managed to hit the wall?

EBrown

17:14

@skiwi I mean my little brother ran a lawn-mower into the workbench at the back.

Which, mind you, from the entrance of the garage to said workbench is like 40ft.

So he had 40ft to either turn the mower off, or hit the brake, or shift it out of drive, etc.

Hosch250

At first I thought you were talking about a walking mower.

EBrown

No lol

That is not usable on 3 1/2 acres.

TopinFrassi

Usually, when you have a barn you don't mow the lawn with a walking mower I guess :p

Hosch250

@EBrown You sure?

Want to bet?

EBrown

@Hosch250 /s/usable/useful/

TopinFrassi

17:16

I'd want to see that

Hosch250

@TopinFrassi Sometime I'll have to drive over and do it.

You can come watch.

TopinFrassi

Good, where's that?

Hosch250

I have no idea.

EBrown

@Hosch250 I'll pay you $100 to mow my dads 3 and a half acres (including hillside) with a pushmower.

skiwi

@EBrown lol :P

Phrancis

17:17

in The Heap™ - Consultancy ©®, 10 mins ago, by Mikael Eriksson

I felt a disturbance in the force. A million people crying over XML.

Hosch250

@EBrown Sure, I'll see if I can't get my parent's permission to come next summer.

skiwi

@EBrown That excludes the actual wage, right?

EBrown

@skiwi That is the actual wage.

I accounted for inflation.

@Hosch250 Alright, it's in Northwest Ohio-ish.

Hosch250

OK.

skiwi

@EBrown Damn, I thought it would be a bonus :P

Ismael Miguel

17:19

@Phrancis Why would anyone use XML now-a-days?

Hosch250

@IsmaelMiguel Better than HTML, it is.

EBrown

@skiwi I'm not rich, lol.

Ismael Miguel

@Hosch250 Yeah, because HTML sucks as a data exchange format

Hosch250

Better either way.

More powerful, is XML.

Ismael Miguel

But XML doesn't have cool things like Javascript

Mast

17:20

JSON ftw

Mat's Mug

because XML serializes complex objects more cleanly than Json

Ismael Miguel

And CSS (without xpath)

Hosch250

XML doesn't replace a language.

EBrown

@IsmaelMiguel /s/cool/borken/

Mat's Mug

and Json doesn't have JavaScript either

EBrown

17:21

@Mat'sMug That too.

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug But you can 'run' JSON

EBrown

With XML you can rebuild the entire object.

Hosch250

XML is for display, like HTML, but has extra features for animation and stuff.

EBrown

With JSON you can only rebuild the non-null properties.

And at that, if they are marked as null you still don't know what they are.

Mat's Mug

@IsmaelMiguel indeed. I see Json, I run! ;0)

EBrown

17:22

@Hosch250 No?

Zak

there seems to be an implication that this is not a valid answer. Yet, it seems like a perfectly reasonable one.

codereview.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/44627

Hosch250

@EBrown You can animate completely in XML.

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug Nice one. Nice. But JSON can be executed as a Javascript statement

Phrancis

@IsmaelMiguel For... sending and storing data in a universal format that virtually every computer can read?

EBrown

@Hosch250 If you have an appropriate rendering system.

Ismael Miguel

17:23

@Phrancis Oh, right...

EBrown

But XML doesn't do the rendering.

I can animate in Chrome with HTML5 as well.

Vogel612

@Zak I think "question" in there should be replaced by "comment"

EBrown

Doesn't mean the HTML is capable of the rendering.

Mat's Mug

@IsmaelMiguel that really doesn't sound like a selling point. security-wise.

Phrancis

Specifically, I was doing XQuery, and the guys there finally helped me get it working

Hosch250

17:24

@EBrown True, but XML is even better at it.

EBrown

I still write SOAP services with XML.

Mat's Mug

I still write WPF apps with ~~XML~~ XAML

EBrown

@Mat'sMug Not the same...lol

It's about time for me to go home.

Mat's Mug

merely an extension of

Phrancis

with xmlnamespaces(default 'REDACTED')
select id, payload, ord_xml
    ,[ServerName] = ord.c.value('@server-name', 'varchar(50)')
    ,[DatabaseName] = ord.c.value('@database-name', 'varchar(50)')
    ,[OrderId] = ord.c.value('(supply-order/@id)[1]', 'int')
from @Orders
  cross apply ord_xml.nodes('order-request') as ord(c)
where ord.c.value('(supply-order/@id)[1]', 'int') = 276502

^ actually works

Mat's Mug

17:25

@Phrancis oh the painful memories...

Phrancis

^IKR

8 mins ago, by Phrancis

I felt a disturbance in the force. A million people crying over XML.

Vogel612

</off-topic>?

EBrown

@Vogel612 Yeah we had better fix that.

Vogel612

there's waaay too much noise in here

EBrown

@Vogel612 Better move it to The Nth.

Vogel612

17:29

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Phrancis

Thanks @Vogel612

Vogel612

hmm.. I still find it problematic that actually needs to happen, and I really dislike moving huge loads of messages like that...

but. You're welcome.

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Phrancis

@Vogel612 I feel you, not sure why it went like that after a simple quote about XML. Oh well, water under the bridge as they say

Vogel612