Language Overflow

Damkerng T.

01:21

Current status: 1972 tabs and 35 more windows

Ugh!

Is it gonna explode when it reaches 2000 tabs?

Anonymous

01:47

Wow!

Anonymous

Um, I imagine it's possible. :-)

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

05:24

Oh, good! I thought @Nathan didn't have access.

Nathan Tuggy

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'm fine. Apparently.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Me too. What a great day! Now I need to spoil it by going and watching some drama sitcom in meta.SE.

Nathan Tuggy

Sounds like a plan

Damkerng T.

Hi, @NathanTuggy!

Nathan Tuggy

Hi, Damkerng!

Damkerng T.

05:35

The other room is very active at the moment. :-)

Nathan Tuggy

ain't that the truth

Damkerng T.

Indeed!

I'd better post something I think useful over there in here before it scrolls off!

in ELL's Cabin, 8 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

in ELL's Cabin, 10 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

Hehe! -- It looks like two-storeyed began to fade in the 60s.

Anonymous

06:29

@DamkerngT. You use --?

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Eh, I typed only one dash.

(Google also said that each request yielded only one result!)

Anonymous

Yeah, their Ngram Viewer is pretty buggy.

Damkerng T.

07:05

Anyone recognize the rhyme rewritten in big words?

> Coruscate, scintillate, asteroid,
Your constitution exercises my cogitations

Anonymous

Yes!

Anonymous

One of the first songs I learned :-)

Damkerng T.

Nice!

Anonymous

We learned the alphabet to the same theme.

Damkerng T.

My TV is funny, it's in sound-only mode.

Anonymous

07:07

♬ Twinkle, twinkle, little star ♬　　(A, B, C, D, E, F, G)
♬ How I wonder what you are ♬　 (H, I, J, K, LMNOP)

Damkerng T.

I guess it's because the clouds.

applauds!

Anonymous

I don't actually think I use very many Big Words™.

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Anonymous

I mean, I, um, I do. But, you know, I put little words around them. :-)

Anonymous

What I try to do is use the right words.

Anonymous

07:08

Most of the time you don't need words like coruscate. But isn't gonochoristic a useful word? :-)

Damkerng T.

It is!

Anonymous

I can just say "Most snails are both male and female. A few types of snails have separate males and females."

Anonymous

But if I do that . . .

Anonymous

Then no one will learn the word gonochoristic! ;-)

Damkerng T.

Hmm... I can't argue with that! :D

Anonymous

07:09

Sometimes I feel like I'm being patronizing if I speak to people using only little words.

Anonymous

I actually think most people are a lot smarter than other people give them credit for, and I know almost everyone can learn lots of new words every day.

Anonymous

And heck, in an English language chat, isn't that something we're all trying to do? :-)

Anonymous

That's the same reason I try to type like I talk in here.

Anonymous

Wouldn't it be weird if we all artificially simplified everything we said in here?

Damkerng T.

Ah, it looks like Jim was asking you a question in the other room. :D

@snailboat nods

Anonymous

07:13

@DamkerngT. I think people (both native and non-native speakers) do that when learners are around, sometimes. But I think that's weird.

Damkerng T.

Like the bee said, "Bee yourself." :P

Anonymous

I certainly do it if I can tell someone is a beginner who's struggling to understand, though.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Buzz, buzz!

Damkerng T.

:D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

14:17

No one here . . . Why am I not surprised?

Damkerng T.

15:16

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ping

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

\o{@Dam}

Damkerng T.

o/

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I should probably run away . . .

Damkerng T.

:D

Damkerng T.

15:36

2

Q: Stres in the sentence: I'm proud of you, Hannah

I know that we usually stress content words in a sentence and unstress function words as long as stress is not shifted for special emphasis. In the sentence: "I'm proud of you, Hannah." I would probably stress the words "proud" and "Hannah" leaving the pronoun "you" unstressed. I think that stre...

Interesting.

Not that because they got the wrong idea or anything.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

What is stre?

Damkerng T.

Hehe, it's a typo, of course!

But I think when talking about stressing patterns, people only think of two (stressed-unstressed) or three levels of stressing at most.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's weird. It's the first time I'm encountering a hehe, it's a typo, of course!.

Damkerng T.

My cat is acting weird...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I think it wants to riot.

He knows you're his pet, and yet have taken control.

Damkerng T.

15:40

Hehe!

Damkerng T.

16:05

Two levels of stressing may not be 100% accurate but it has its merit. Its main strength lies in its being easy to understand.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, if it were me saying that sentence, I would stress proud mainly, and then Hannah.

Since obviously, the proud is the most important thing about the statement.

Damkerng T.

nods -- That's the typical pattern.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Unless, there is not-so-normal emphasis.

"Abnormal" sounded very abnormal to me in the sentence above.

Damkerng T.

Ah, there is a new answer.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Readies for downvote

Some points: 1) Love your main question, but talking about a book is unfortunately off-topic on ELL. You could mention that the guy used it as evidence or whatever though. 2) If this Root memorizing refers to ways of connecting words like advert/revert, then it'd be confusing at best in the long run. However, I wouldn't imagine how one could not connect "pollute" to "pollution" when learning them. That is, word formation is one efficient way to connect words of the same Latin, French etc. root. 3) Welcome to ELL! — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 7 mins ago

This is kinda worth discussing here, IMO.

@snailboat I was also thinking about COCA'ing (no, not cocaine) or ngraming amn't the day before yesterday.

Damkerng T.

16:14

I think we both use neither the by root nor by rote method.

Though it looks like you know more root words than me.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I don't go by root a lot.

It's tricky.

(=death)

Unless in obvious cases, like mort.

Damkerng T.

I treat root words or word roots the same way I think of history, I think.

Well, mortgage and mortal are unrelated at first glance.

Um... So would you like to tell me where is the correct place that I can talk about this given topic? — Yummy Sushi 3 mins ago

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

The problem is, how is a B2, scratch that, C2 learner supposed to know what the root of a word is?

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Sounds like a good opportunity to tell them about the main chat room.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Clearly, vert isn't the root of advert.

Damkerng T.

16:19

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Probably the same way a Chinese or Japanese can tell those small pieces in their characters.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M But verse is!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Exactly. Saying that I should learn words from their roots is like saying I wanna use the Clausius condensation to obtain water vapor.

Neat!

@Dam a useful point: While commenting in the main site, [help], [chat] and [tour] get converted to [help], [chat] and [tour].

Bah, it doesn't work in chat.

Alternatively, there are chatrooms you can access via English Language Learners Chat. Also, to the close voters: I do not agree with the closure. There has been past questions which remained since they were useful to ELLers. How is this not useful? — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 2 mins ago

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I left [chat] and it became English Language Learners Chat. With a shiny link.

Actually, [help] converts to help center (with a link) and [tour] converts to tour, with a link also.

Damkerng T.

Only in the first ten-hundred frequently used words?

Ah, YummySushi is in the main room!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Quick! Upvote their question @Dam!

IMO, this is now good enough to sit here. I've seen questions like this get answered before here. — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 4 mins ago

What do you think?

Oh wait, wrong room.

@Dam could you also try giving access here?

Maybe it only works in gallery chatrooms?

Damkerng T.

16:58

0

Q: Suggestions for preparing Cambridge C2

Ok guys, last month I took the Cambridge C2 exam. I didn't score especially well in the listening and the speaking part, and this brought me to get a C1 level. Can anybody suggest me a way for improving those two aspects? Thank you in advance!

british-english listening language-improvement

Similar, but more specific.

At the C1 level, I think it's worth doing some problem diagnosis first.

Damkerng T.

17:26

> All in all, this really was paradise.

> Except for one thing.

> Desire is desire, wherever you go.

> --The Beach

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Lies everywhere!

Damkerng T.

17:42

> In one moment, I understood more clearly than ever, why we were so special, why we kept our secret. Because if we didn’t, sooner or later, they’d turn it into this. Cancers. Parasites. Rating up the whole f*cking world.

> --The Beach

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

If the world is f*cking, it deserves to be eaten up, no?

Damkerng T.

Argh, I misedited it!

Posting random thoughts while being on iPad is a little bit cumbersome.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Then don't!

Damkerng T.

I may forget about them within just a few minutes. :-)

Oh, the quote was mentioned a chapter of Disruptive Tourism and Its Untidy Guests: Alternative Ontologies for Future Hospitalities.

> Written by an author collective with backgrounds in philosophy, sociology, tourism, hospitality and development studies, the book transfers the focus of tourism theories away from managing sustainability and toward alternative – disruptive – ontologies and epistemologies for future tourist hospitalities and mobilities.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:58

@Dam king, what do you think of when you hear The Johannes Kepler project?

No, don't Google it!

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M No idea.

Even though it has Kepler in its name...

It could as well be some other Kepler.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

What kinda project do you think it is?

Damkerng T.

Well, I've heard it from you, so you is my context.

So I think: scientific.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nah, TeXy.

They're the authors and holders of kpfonts package.

Damkerng T.

^Use-mention distinction could be useful up there...

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M A-ha!

Damkerng T.

18:25

A short discussion on to-infinitive earlier this morning is still in the back of my mind...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

If it's there, how can you see it?

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M By browsing the chat log!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

O.O

How can you see the back of your head with browsing the chat log?

Damkerng T.

No, it's different. This is the back of my mind, not my head.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Ah, I see.

So your mind is splashed on chat log?

Dispersed?

Something like that?

Damkerng T.

18:28

Prolly cropped up with. :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Or kinda entangled.

Damkerng T.

To see the back of my mind, I simply use my mind eyes.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hey, am I looking at the back of your mind now?

That's CREEEEEEPY! Shivers

Damkerng T.

> Iolaus: General Sitacles, perhaps you would care to inspect the armor of Hercules?
[Iolaus gives one of the armor's to Tydeus who gives it to Sitacles]
Sitacles: Leather armor? Hm? We will be skewered like pigs.
[suddenly Tydeus swings his axe at Sitacles, it hits the armor which protects Sitacles from getting wounded]
Iolaus: Linothorax. Hewn from the skin of the Erymanthean Boar. It's indestructible.
Stephanos: Oh, wait. If it's indestructible, how did Hercules cut it off the boar?
[Iolaus hesitates a moment to come up with a plausible answer]

> --Hercules

See, the indestructible skin needs an indestructible blade.

To see a mind, you need a mind eye. :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bah, my mind eye is broken.

Damkerng T.

18:31

Hehe!

Third eye

The third eye (also known as the inner eye) is a mystical and esoteric concept referring to a speculative invisible eye which provides perception beyond ordinary sight. In certain dharmic spiritual traditions such as Hinduism, the third eye refers to the ajna, or brow, chakra. In Theosophy it is related to the pineal gland. The third eye refers to the gate that leads to inner realms and spaces of higher consciousness. In New Age spirituality, the third eye often symbolizes a state of enlightenment or the evocation of mental images having deeply personal spiritual or psychological significance...

A mystical and esoteric concept!

Back to the to-infinitive thing...

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

You think [people to listen to your speech] shouldn't be bracketed as one constituent?

> When you think you're ready, gather up some people to listen to your speech, so you can have a rehearsal before the conference starts.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

In which sentence?

Huh.

Damkerng T.

> ell.stackexchange.com/q/61434/3281

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

Frankly, I don't know what the structure of gather up some people to listen to your speech is.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

> [The people to listen to your speech] are here.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by Damkerng T.

It also relates to another question by pazzo.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by Damkerng T.

(Something like I bought that plane to get to London.)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Depends. I'd like it this way: [peopl][e] [to] [[[listen] to] your] [[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]speech]]]].

Damkerng T.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

> 1. Jack, I found someone to take care of you.　←　I found someone, and that was my way of taking care of you.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

> 2. Jack, I found someone to take care of you.　←　I found someone who will take care of you.

in ELL's Cabin, 11 hours ago, by snailboat

Two different functions of a to-infinitival clause, I think.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M :D

I just was able to come up with a more ambiguous sentence a while ago.

> Jack, I asked someone to help you.

Is it:

> a) Jack, I asked [ someone to help you ].

> b) Jack, I asked [ someone ] to help you.

I asked someone; that was my way to help you; I want to see them help you; they are here to help you.

0

Q: I see a black bird.is it present indefinite tense?

I see a black bird. Is it present indefinite tense or present continous tense? Can anyone help me please?

sentence-meaning sentence-structure present-tense

Oh, "present indefinite" tense!

A likeable name, at first glance.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

18:49

Yawns

Damkerng T.

1

Q: relative clauses without "the"

It's a shame but I hadn't noticed we can use relative clauses without "the" until saw the comments of my answer to this question It suggests there is difference between: The boys who are 16 years old and Boys who are 16 years old The first sentence is not true about any boy who is 1...

articles definite-article relative-clauses

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

ELL is weird these days.

Damkerng T.

That makes me think of another interesting thing: How do we group the with a noun post-modified with a relative clause?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

What in the world does a relative clause have to do with the definite article?

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The books on the shelf are ...

> a. The [ boys who are 16 years old ] ...

> b. [ The boys ] who are 16 years old ...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

18:59

@DamkerngT. No I mean, this isn't about relative clauses at all.

Damkerng T.

I know. But I also know that their point isn't very far off.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nah, you're overthinking it.

I love overthinking.

Damkerng T.

Some relative clauses will require you to conceptualize the noun definite-like.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Lemme read the question carefully.

Damkerng T.

I think this is also related to some uncountable noun that will need the indefinitely article a/an when there is an adjective in front of it.

(a good education is the first such thing that came to mind)

^A-ha! If I typed faster, I would've written that 'the first such thing' right at the first time. Typing slowly is not spelling-friendly here in SE chat rooms...

(The delay of the SE chat room's responsiveness can have an effect similar to stuttering, I suppose.)

(Could be very disruptive in speech production...)

...

About,

> a. The [ boys who are 16 years old ] ...
b. [ The boys ] who are 16 years old ...

I just realized that it wouldn't be a problem at all if we don't limit ourselves to parsing in binary-tree-like manner.

But because some linguists seem to restrict themselves to binary-tree parses only, I guess that they had to resolve this issue a long time ago. So it should be a solved problem.

BTW, in parallel to CGEL, I'm thinking about drafting another grammar set: IGEL. :P

If C is for Comprehensive, this I will stand for Incomprehensible. :D

---A Comprehensive--- An Incomprehensible Grammar of the English Language

Anonymous

19:16

@DamkerngT. A

Damkerng T.

@snailboat A-ha! Thanks!

Anonymous

And if you think about it, the has semantic scope over the entire nominal, including the relative clause

Damkerng T.

@snailboat nods -- My gut feeling said so, but I wasn't sure.

BTW, I came up with a goofy slogan...

Slogan for IGEL: The only textbook the learners of English as a second language who want to go bananas studying English will ever need. :P

In the IGEL, English has two tense-forms, three time-spheres, three realities, three aspects, and several moods.

Anonymous

Spheres!

Damkerng T.

Hehe! :D

It will be indisputably inexplicable and incomprehensible!

Anonymous

19:24

Just wait till you see how silly and wrong A Snail's Grammar of Japanese is! ;-)

2

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Come to think of it, if xkcd's Thing Explainer sells well, my goofy IGEL could make a good sale too!

(It could even be titled iGEL, just to go with the trend.)

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Do you know Baital Pachiti?

Baital Pachisi

Vetala Panchavimshati (Sanskrit: वेतालपञ्चविंशति, IAST: vetālapañcaviṃśati or Baital Pachisi (Bengali) ("Twenty-five (tales) of Baital"), is a collection of tales and legends within a frame story, from India. It was originally written in Sanskrit. One of its oldest recensions is found in the 12th Book of the Kathasaritsagara ("Ocean of the Streams of Story"), a work in Sanskrit compiled in the 11th century by Somadeva, but based on yet older materials, now lost. This recension comprises in fact twenty four tales, the frame narrative itself being the twenty fifth. The two other major recensions...

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Sanskrit Language

Proposed Q&A site for linguists, scholars, students and enthusiasts of the Sanskrit Language.

Currently in definition.

Anonymous

19:46

76

Latin Language

Proposed Q&A site for linguists, teachers, and students wanting to discuss the finer points of the Latin language.

Currently in commitment.

Anonymous

Dead language SE site proposals, unite!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Who's that?

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Yay!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Hmm... it's a fable.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, I'm not Indian, thanks God.

Damkerng T.

LOL -- The stories are very good actually.

Anonymous

19:50

Thank god isn't like Thanks, Obama!

Damkerng T.

Oh, no! I'm reading the original translation version of the Baital's stories, and I thought the sentence (in Thai) is ungrammatical!

Anonymous

You can't really add an 's' to it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hah!

Damkerng T.

(It sounds so artificial/archaic.)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. When's it from?

Anonymous

19:51

Sometimes modern translators attempt archaisms when they translate things they want to sound old . . .

Damkerng T.

(The line was สักครู่หนึ่งมีหญิงสาวเป็นอันมาก ~ "After a while, there are a lot of women ...")

But somehow it seems to sound like "After a while, there is a woman, a lot ..." :-)

@snailboat About 100 years ago, I think.

Anonymous

The King James Bible (widely known even by non-Christians in English-speaking cultures) is about 400 years old.

Anonymous

But even when it was written, it used deliberately archaic-sounding language.

Damkerng T.

I guess we have to treat them differently. They're supposed to be different anyhow.

Hmm... interesting... can we walk our thoughts? ...

It's fun to read, in more than one way! :D

Anonymous

Walk your thoughts? Like a dog?

Damkerng T.

19:56

A lit. translation would be something like, "He thought like this because he walked his thoughts along his father's method [ who was ...]"

I'm trying to check if the story of "splitting the baby" is from Baital or from King Solomon, or both.

Anonymous

That sounds like a terrifying story!

Damkerng T.

In order to tell who was the real mother!

Anonymous

Moral: Please leave your babies in one piece!

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

There is one from King Solomon for sure:

Judgment of Solomon

The Judgment of Solomon refers to a story from the Hebrew Bible in which King Solomon of Israel ruled between two women both claiming to be the mother of a child by tricking the parties into revealing their true feelings. It has become an archetypal example of a judge displaying wisdom in making a ruling. == Biblical narrative == The story is recounted in 1 Kings 3:16-28. Two young women who lived in the same house and who both had an infant son came to Solomon for a judgment. One of the women claimed that the other, after accidentally smothering her own son while sleeping, had exchanged the two...

Anonymous

That baby grew up with a fear of swords.

Damkerng T.

20:00

Perhaps!

> the live son must be split in two

Oh, live as an adjective!

Anonymous

The adjective is pronounced /laɪv/

Anonymous

The verb is pronounced /lɪv/

Damkerng T.

nods -- I think live meaning living (or alive) is used less frequently nowadays.

Anonymous

Really? Hmm.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hah! I just updated my about me in all of SE.

Anonymous

20:04

It's used quite a bit in certain sorts of phrases.

Anonymous

Like live bait.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M "my about me" is curious sounding!

Anonymous

It's used in a derived meaning very frequently in live video, live streaming . . .

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

ELL's gotten way over your head @Dam.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat nods -- Macmillan gives live yogurt as an example.

Anonymous

20:05

Live music, live stand-up, live performance, broadcast live . . .

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Sure, live probiotics

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Oh, the first time I heard that phrase, we had to terminate the contract.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'm trying to think of a way to say that I'm not entirely comfortable with messages like this one

Anonymous

Words are hard.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snail I usually don't mind people correcting me or my actions, but @Dam knows; I have an allergy.

Damkerng T.

20:07

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M nods in acknowledgement...

Anyway, the stories are good. :-)

There are some similarities in folklore and fables between several ancient cultures.

I remember that I noticed some similarities between Troy and Ramayana few years ago.

So maybe stories traveled around the world.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've heard about that Ramayana.

Damkerng T.

(I don't know where each story was originated from.)

Ramayana is Indian for sure.

Troy is Greek, I think.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It is. Along with Mhabharata.

Don't ask me about the spelling!

@DamkerngT. Yes. No.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Oh, yes!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It's Roman.

Damkerng T.

20:12

Hmm... Interesting!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M BTW, though I know about your opinion, it's not necessarily that I agree with your idea. And it's probably better to phrase it differently. I guess that was snailboat's point.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. I can't help it. Now that I bother you and @snail with it, I won't express it.

I never said all Indians are bad.

In fact, most of them are good.

Damkerng T.

(As for me, I decided to change my opinion about anything "incorrect" in Indian English. I think I'll treat English spoken by an Indian as correct, no matter what, unless they want to check their usage against the standard English.)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

But the ones that don't read instructions really bother me.

They pollute the site that I wanna keep clean.

That won't leave a good impression of them in my eyes.

Damkerng T.

nods -- I understand.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

And humans and molecules are irrational, so their siding is also irrational.

Damkerng T.

20:18

Eh, I think molecules are quite logical!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

So, I get to need insect repellents when I see someone's name as Aditya.

Damkerng T.

Several Thai names may sound similar to Indian names, because of the Sanskrit root.

(e.g. I know that Aditya = the sun, without having to look it up)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hmm.

Damkerng T.

My name is from Khmer, though.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Chuckles

Chuckles chuckles

Damkerng T.

20:22

:D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Watch this @Dam:

This is a homework question. We ‎have a policy which states that you should show your thoughts and/or efforts into solving the ‎problem. It'll make us certain that we aren't doing your homework for you. Otherwise, this ‎question may get closed.‎ — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 18 mins ago

Umm, seems like this entire sight can be construed as such. Do you need a photo ID to prove I am 39 and hold a Ph.D. in Molecular Biosciences and Bioengineering? Or would you be concerned that I am using this service as a way to develop test questions for a class I teach? — Donnie 8 mins ago

Now I'm really sure they're a dog, since this is internet.

Damkerng T.

Hah!

A 39 and hold a Ph.D. in Molecular Biosciences and Bioengineering?

I'd like to see the proof.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I'm 70 percent sure they're lying.

Damkerng T.

Wait, I think I don't really want to.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That'd get to 97% if they don't respond to my comment.

Damkerng T.

20:26

I'm not sure about their first language.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You can never be.

Damkerng T.

I think Google reads SE feeds at all times.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've noticed, people tend to grow weird terminology and language and usage in accordance with their study fields.

Like for example, chemists are different.

Damkerng T.

"At what temperature does the following solution start to boil" has got two hits, both are the Chem.SE question posted 28 minutes ago.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've always seen Ron's speaking different from @snail's.

Damkerng T.

20:31

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M That's quite normal.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

BTW

A better question would be: Is salamandar a misspelling of salamander, a gift shop in UK, a cobra snake, a twitter username, a restaurant, or what? — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 1 min ago

Damkerng T.

:D

Hi, @HarryCBurn!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

\o[TeX_guy]{@Harry}

Damkerng T.

LOL

A goofy translation of the day: นกขุนทองโกรธจนแทบจะลืมไวยากรณ์สันสกฤต

Try Google Translate on that!

I'm not sure what would be the English word for นกขุนทอง.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Angry bird?

Almost forgotten?

Damkerng T.

20:36

A dictionary says hill myna.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

The Sanskrit language?

They're highly related.

Damkerng T.

Actually, that sentence was about "The bird (hill myna) was so angry that it almost forgot Sanskrit grammar." :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Perfect grammar.

HarryCBurn

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Hey!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M - it is simply an anagram for "alas rad man"! — Oded ♦ 2 mins ago

O.O

Now what does alas rad man mean?

Damkerng T.

20:40

I understand your confusion and see the flaw in my logic. This is all about restriction. In my sentence, the postmodifier I saw yesterday restricts the noun girl in order to make it clear to the hearer which girl I am talking about. It may not always be clear when to use the definite or indefinite article, but have a look at this: Boys who are 16 years old. vs The boys who I saw yesterday. The first sentence is a more 'general' sentence, it is much less restrictive than the second where the hearer can understand which boys are meant. — Sander 1 hour ago

Thanks, if you note in my original question I asked if "the" in relative clauses is just a coincident and the noun and the relative clause are independent? But now you say sometimes (as in your second example) they are dependent and it can depend on the semantic of relative clause. I suggest you please modify your answer to reflect this important point! — Ahmad 1 hour ago

Articles are hard.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Alas, (a/this/that) radical man?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Highly related to our context.

HarryCBurn

So I just got my RPi set up as a media center c:

Damkerng T.

@HarryCBurn Yay!

Damkerng T.

22:21

Note to self: In language, it's mostly about the links of things. The more links you have to something (some words, phrases, grammar rules, etc.), the better chances that you will understand it deeper, that you will get it right, that you will use it right.

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