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7:06 PM
congusbongus has basically caught up
I would not be surprised if the top 4 users eventually settle to congusbongus, Mnementh, Ziz, me.
 
@ArtOfCode I will slowly start to drop as the question get more and more specialized. I could only answer the easy ones.
congusbongus makes awesome answers and questions, he is only behind because he basically missed the first day
 
@Mnementh I bet my top tags will be legal tags. I live with two lawyers, but I know little outside of that apart from licensing stuff.
 
I'll be most active with creative works and information, i think :D
 
hey
I missed the first 2 days
as well
guys lets go and answer 100% of the questions
o
ok?
 
Sure. But I don't know many answers. :P
 
7:13 PM
research
 
Target: at least one of us has to have an answer on every question within 24 hours.
24 hours of it going up, that is.
 
Challenge Accepted.
 
Hmmm... another interesting part will be who makes the nominations for mods.
 
@ArtOfCode Wait, what? On everything?
 
who's going to nominate, who's going to get nominated, by whom...
 
7:15 PM
We can't answer questions that are already closed
 
@Mnementh not everything already existing, new stuff
 
@ArtOfCode oh, ok, still pretty hard
 
no
but there are a bunch that arnt
and pls answer mine
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Q: What is the benefit to using open source alternatives?

Trevor ClarkeWhen downloading software I often see open souce alternatives. Many of these look quite similar but never the same. I continue to but the paid version. Recently, I started to wonder if the open source versions may be better. My question: What benefits are there to using open source produtcs? A...

 
Are we talking about mods or questions now?
 
including meta...
 
7:16 PM
I'm so confused...
 
@TrevorClarke which one?
 
@trichoplax Where did u come from?
 
I'm always here...
 
You were?
 
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Q: What is the benefit to using open source alternatives?

Trevor ClarkeWhen downloading software I often see open souce alternatives. Many of these look quite similar but never the same. I continue to but the paid version. Recently, I started to wonder if the open source versions may be better. My question: What benefits are there to using open source produtcs? A...

 
7:17 PM
No I just drop in every so often while doing other things
 
Oh
You just like popped up like magic :)
 
the user that proposed this site has hardly been active
 
They still played their part just by proposing. Now it's up to us.
 
I think he popped up late as well. But I've seen him a few times on Meta. And when you propose a site, you don't necessarily have to participate, just start a revolution :)
 
Like dropping a seed into fertile ground
 
7:21 PM
hey ziz?
 
yo
 
And on meta?
Lol, but active on area51 is just sorted by number of posts
 
So you get bragging rights, but I can attack you on meta :D
 
7:23 PM
look at that
all questions answered
 
@ziz I was talking about mods in my musing
 
lol I'm bugging you guys
Wait what? Mods again?
@ArtOfCode You're ahead of me according to the site: opensource.stackexchange.com/…, but NOT AREA51! area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/…
 
@ziz in my musings, yes. Noting that it'll be interesting to see who nominates who
 
@Zizouz212 that question has 2 answers
 
7:27 PM
That would be interesting...
@TrevorClarke Still technically unanswered...
 
@trevor because neither is upvoted
 
now they are
 
(hint: everyone go upvote)
 
7:29 PM
no votes left today
 
so when do you think they will move to public beta
?
 
In about a week...
 
and when do you think we should reopen the mod form
 
The purpose of the private beta is to "prime" the site with content
And mods thread should reopen about a couple days after public beta.
 
I think we should reopen the mod for
m now
 
7:30 PM
@TrevorClarke But why? To what purpose would it serve?
 
we can be prepared
 
@ArtOfCode By the way, I'm making a contestant community ad for you :)
 
@trevor we have a plan: 24 hours after going public.
 
@TrevorClarke It's something for public beta
:D
 
7:30 PM
@Zizouz212 good good more competition ;)
 
lets do it now
 
@trevor in theory we don't need mods until public
 
That's true
 
in theory
 
7:32 PM
sure but it cant hurt to start now
 
Actually, it can
 
And its now like those nominees will be made mods right away, the SE team will decide that
> About a week into the public beta, we will seek out members who are deeply engaged in the community’s development; members who:
 
yes thats when they will begin seeking
that does not me we cant start now
 
I don't know... I just disagree
 
7:33 PM
please
 
It's a little unfair though, to people who can't currently get in because it's private.
 
I would wait a few days more to see who is active in which areas
 
That way, everyone sees it at the same time and its fair
No extra time for votes
 
If you're looking to become a mod, don't worry. You'll get a chance :)
Feel free to speculate on who you want or think though, we've been doing that already.
 
hint hint
 
7:36 PM
@Zizouz212 MY HINT IS LOUDER THAN YOURS ;)
 
<h1> HINT HINT HINT!!!!!! </h1>
Why chat...
 
<h0>HINT HINT</h0>
 
There's an h0 tag in html?
 
No, I'm making things up
 
no
 
7:37 PM
yeah, i figured
 
Well I will be out of town next week
I am scared I wont be avle to keep my rep up
 
I am right now but I've managed today
 
@TrevorClarke I doubt that will be an issue...
 
You should be ok
 
you'll be fine. You're pretty high in the spectrum anyway
 
7:39 PM
It is very hard to write questions on my iphone for a week
HEYYYYY im now 8th
 
@trevor got an iPad mini? That's what I'm on right noe
 
I'm on my computer :D
 
I have 4 monitors
 
Which for some reason has auto correct... :/
 
You lucky ***
 
7:40 PM
lol
 
lol
 
can someone upvote or at lesast answer this
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Q: What problems may I encounter when moving my business to an open source model?

Trevor ClarkeI am thinking of changing my business to an open source business model. Before I do this I need to make sure I will not encounter any major issues. My question: What things should I look our for, or prepare to insure a issue free transition? Also what problems have occurred in the past that I m...

 
@ziz can you not turn it off?
 
I have no idea too. I'll probably burn up my computer
I'm pretty bad with computers... Ironic, since I program in Java, Python and I'm learning Swift
 
why odnt u use one of the ther exchange sites to get an answer
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A: Are open source programs just as good as non open source?

MnementhOpen Source Software is just... software. It exists good software and it exists bad, just the same as with closed source. You have to look at each program individually and decides if it is good or bad. Example: I think many people are using Firefox or Chrome now instead of closed browsers. Not b...

 
7:42 PM
Has @Mnementh hit the rep cap?
 
ols soeone answer his
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Q: What problems may I encounter when moving my business to an open source model?

Trevor ClarkeI am thinking of changing my business to an open source business model. Before I do this I need to make sure I will not encounter any major issues. My question: What things should I look our for, or prepare to ensure a issue free transition? Also what problems have occurred in the past that I m...

 
@Zizouz212 as I got three accepts today, i have still 25 to go.
 
Damn it. I was going to tell everyone to go and up vote your stuff so that you wouldn't get any rep
:P
 
feel free to get people to upvote my stuff
 
@ziz I also recommend C#
This might be straying a little too far towards voting fraud...
 
7:45 PM
I was thinking about doing c#, one of my friends knows it
But then on SO, there's skeetville with the c# tag...
and I was planning on learning Swift to develop games for iOS
:)
 
Yeah but I hang out there too. And if you do Java you'll pick it up so quickly
 
@Zizouz212 Oh yes, and he was poaching Java, so stealing my rep
 
poaching?
 
Everytime I thought: I can answer this - Skeet was already there and had an outstanding answer :-)
 
Damn it skeet
 
7:48 PM
Yep
 
@Zizouz212 hmm, not the right word? English isn't my native lang
 
@Mnementh You speak it really well
I would
I would've thought it was your native lang
 
I speak it badly, but typing it is somewhat OK
 
@Mnementh fits perfectly actually
I noticed it wasn't your first, but you're good at it
 
can someone upvote this answer
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Q: Are open source programs just as good as non open source?

Trevor ClarkeI was talking to my friend, they told me they started switching open source programs and they started to slow down his computer. My company has recommended that I try to use open source programs, but based on this I am scared it may hurt our infrastructure. My question: Would using open sourc...

want to get it cleared
 
7:50 PM
Who here isn't out of votes for today? :-)
 
The answer is up voted. It's fine
@Mnementh Pick me Pick me!!
 
@Mnementh me, I'm bad at voting
 
wow, I vote on nearly everything I think is good
 
OK, maybe I'm too easygoing with votes, have already favorited some questions where I want to upvote a good answer tomorrow - or where I wait for a good answer
 
7:53 PM
Are any of my answers on that list?
Guys, I've "reached" 801 people on meta, but only 773 people on the main site
Is that a bad thing?
 
@Zizouz212 yes
 
Oh god
 
@Zizouz212 if you want to be a mod - it's good
 
i love how you reached 800 people yet there are only 500 people on this site
 
How about overall?
316 people actually
 
7:56 PM
even more funny
 
Hmm, I reached 2K of the 316 :-)
 
Mnementh is the open source version of Jon Skeet
 
@Zizouz212 Doubt it, his answers are fast AND awesome. I'm only fast.
 
You're answers are also really good though
 
Also wait for the difficult questions
There are already quite a lot I couldn't answer
If all the basic stuff is covered I can go away
 
8:00 PM
Never...
 
I reached 1k. That stat should really be called impressions
 
Feature request on meta se?
 
It'll get downvoted to hell so I'd rather not
 
@ArtOfCode So you're giving up to the masses?
Defend the truth!
 
You have mutual support!
 
8:04 PM
@Mnementh @ziz me? Stand up? Fat chance ;)
 
come on!
You want me to post it then?
 
So far, I'll get 2 up votes and 200000 downvotes...
@Zizouz212 go for it, I'll upvote it
 
Ah sure why not.
 
send me the link
 
You can reap the consequences, be they good or bad...
 
8:07 PM
who would actually add the feature
 
Link us to it when you're done :)
 
Sure :D
 
are there ANY mods currently
 
The community managers :)
 
ziz did u make it
 
8:11 PM
Almost done
 
@Zizouz212 He still leads on reviewing suggested edits... grrr
 
We will overtake >:)
 
There!
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Q: Change People "Reached" to Impressions

Zizouz212Over at Open Source.SE, it's easy to figure out how many people would've seen a post, since it's still in beta. With 313 users, you wouldn't expect to have reached more than that amount. Yet: I've reached 778 people. So here's the request: Let's change "people reached" to "impressions". This...

And about edits, don't even think about it
 
everyone upvote
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Q: Change People "Reached" to Impressions

Zizouz212Over at Open Source.SE, it's easy to figure out how many people would've seen a post, since it's still in beta. With 313 users, you wouldn't expect to have reached more than that amount. Yet: I've reached 778 people. So here's the request: Let's change "people reached" to "impressions". This...

and favourite
and guys
can you all pls email me at: me@trevorc.ca when the mod applications come out please
i wont be home
 
Looks like other people are supporting too. A fourth upvote
 
8:19 PM
@TrevorClarke are you looking to nominate yourself? I can put a proxy nomination in for you so it's still there if you like.
 
what does that mean
sorry
 
Or you can just give us your nomination paragraph, and we can post it for you
 
that would be good
if you all upvote :-)
well
idk
just email me
 
Well, a down vote on the meta se post
 
If you send me the paragraphs you'd like to write about yourself, I'll post them for you when the post comes out, and just say that it's a nomination for you not me.
 
8:20 PM
@ArtOfCode: I used your suggestion to edit Trevors question to possibly save it from closing. @Trevor: I hope you don't mind.
 
Crap. It's a DUPE!
Whatever, four up votes, two downvotes
And people are voting to reopen it!
OMG i love people
:D
 
It's not really a dupe, the other post explains the feature after releasing it.
 
I know, and looking at other posts that are dupes of it, it doesn't look like mine should be one
 
Hmm, a suggested name for it was: Unicorns healed
 
Proof that closed software sucks... Internet Explorer: hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! :P — Zizouz212 38 mins ago
Damn, that's what I'm using!
 
8:27 PM
Sorry!
But not so sorry!
 
Nah, I agree, it's not good.
 
But sorry
 
No, I heartily agree. I need to download Firefox one of these days.
 
No! You must be open sourciotic! srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
SRWare Iron
Open Source of Chrome!
 
8:34 PM
@HDE226868 the only valid use of IE is to download another browser. I just lost some respect for you ;)
 
user image
5
 
@Gilles lol
 
Closed-source software is the same, except with different posters on the wall
 
I feel like the most concise answer to this would be, "A lot of bookstore owners will lose money (and get really annoyed at you), as will you," but it's clearly deeper than that.
 
@HDE226868 that is the answer, essentially. It just needs some prettifying.
 
8:50 PM
@HDE226868 No, as the book is given away digitally for free in any of the two cases, so bookstores shouldn't be impacted that much.
 
@Mnementh There has to be some substantial portion of people buying it, because otherwise no vender would buy it from you in the first place.
 
@HDE226868 Yes, but that is unrelated to it being open or not, people have in each case the choice of downloading the digital book vs. buying the print.
 
I don't know. I changed mine up a little
 
@Mnementh It is, because now the booksellers have competition. They've paid money for their copies, whereas many other people have not, and so they'll lose money because those who got it for free will be willing to sell it at lower prices. The booksellers bought each copy from you at cost X, so they willnot want to sell it for anything less than X. Those who got it for free can sell it for less than X and still profit.
 
And then you have random people like Apple who are rude and just plain mean to artists and authors, and hence indirectly to bookstores.
 
8:57 PM
@Zizouz212 though at least they did change their minds
eventually
 
I honestly have no idea how it would impact you financially, so I'm not even going to try to write up an answer.
 
Apple?
 
@Zizouz212 after taylor swift got her voice heard
 
I think I remember this now..
 
she boycotted the trial version and wrote an open letter on her website and the media got wind of it
 
9:00 PM
Yep, I remember
 
@Mnementh You could write that up as a self-answer.
 
@HDE226868 Yes, but that's boring.
 
@Mnementh Are you asking me to use it in an answer?
 
@HDE226868 No, I'm answering this to you as reply to your claim book-vendors wouldn't buy books that are freely available for download
Doctorow isn't the only one, there are more, Kelly Link for instance
 
9:12 PM
@Mnementh I know, it convinced me I was wrong.
 
I'm targeting 1k in the next 2 days.
 
@ArtOfCode I'll beat you
:D
 
@Zizouz212 I know :) but if I was at home I'd have it in the first few hours of tomorrow.
 
Deleting is boring, tag synonyms is the next target
 
Talking about synonyms...
 
9:18 PM
And you both should be able to make it 1K tomorrow
 
4k is my slightly long term target
 
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Q: Floss Foss to become Floss?

Zizouz212As in many questions, floss and foss were deemed to be similar, if not the same (the difference being technical). Should we make these tags synonyms of each other?

 
trusted user status for public beta
 
@Zizouz212 I know, I remember
 
@Mnementh I would if I was at home, but I'm not so I may not be around much
 
9:19 PM
Just bringing it up :) Especially since we have more people here
 
I'm also not at home over the weekend, so I may drop
 
You'll still get rep from random people cruising by
Just watch
 
Not much random people in private beta
 
You'll see
 
I'm hoping to get it tomorrow, but 15 upvotes is a lot when I won't be able to post much.
 
9:23 PM
Get what?
 
1k
 
You probably will
:D
 
We shall see. I like it here :)
 
This is so far one of the better betas i've been in.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:03 PM
anyone here
 
Nope
 
lol
I need more ideas for questions
 
What hasn't been asked?
If we were to set up an open source project right now, would you know everything you need to?
 
umm
has anyone asked "what is an open sourced project"?
i dont think anyone has
 
@TrevorClarke I hope not
 
11:16 PM
lol no one has
i did
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Q: What is an open source project?

Trevor ClarkeSuppose I was working on a piece of software. What would it mean for me to make it Open Sourced? Does this mean that anyone can edit my program? Also, how would it compare to a non- open sourced project?

 
ikr
i cant believe no one else has done it
 
um...
We'll see how that is received...
 
@TrevorClarke but why did you ask it?
the private beta is a time to experiment, but not to ask stupid questions
 
because it will be aksed and search by anyone
so you may as well fill in the gaps now
so we can answer actual questions later
 
11:19 PM
@TrevorClarke we aren't trying to reinvent Wikipedia
 
It is kind of like going to cookery.SE and asking what cooking is. I'd expect it to be closed but we'll find out...
 
so
someone will ask it
why not me
 
@trichoplax technically, it doesn't necessarily need to be closed. Though “too broad” might apply.
But it should be downvoted to hell.
 
I'm not voting to close it myself, but I still don't expect it to stay open
 
11:20 PM
you cant downvote it just because its simple
 
@TrevorClarke Yes, I can.
 
people can and I expect people will
 
Furthermore, I should.
 
The tooltip on the downvote button states “This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful”
 
11:21 PM
If there's disagreement on whether a question fits it can be raised on meta, but in this case I'd also expect the meta post to be downvoted
 
asking “what is X?” when it's absolutely trivial to find out what X is 1. does not show any research effort and 2. is not useful
 
I have to side with @Gilles here. Some of the best questions are the simplest ones. But that's not the case across the board.
 
fine its gone
 
Ugh, why are there so many bloody licensing questions?
 
Can I serve open cola in proprietary glasses?
7
 
11:27 PM
@TrevorClarke Kudos to you for avoiding making all of yours about licenses.
 
@HDE226868 Any suggestions on underrepresented topics?
 
@trichoplax I'm learning as I go. Absolutely no idea.
 
Nor me. I guess that's why there are so many licensing questions... :)
 
There could be some interesting things about , and I've been trying to figure something out, but I can't come up with anything.
 
Hmm. I've asked 9 questions. 3 of them are on hold
I do deliberately skim the borders of the scope to map it out so I shouldn't complain
 
11:31 PM
I have asked 27 questions 2 are on hold
 
@TrevorClarke That's pretty good.
 
thanks
 
Wow
 
i am running out of ideas tho
 
Aren't we all...
What more can we ask about hardware?
Problems that come up during collaboration?
Anything but licensing...
 
11:34 PM
ok
um
dimentions
?
changing stuff slightly then calling it their own
maybe
 
If you can't think of any more questions for main, meta questions are important too
 
guys
think i got a good hardware queston
question
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Q: When building an open sourced hardware project what documentation do I need?

Trevor ClarkeFrom previous expearence I know that when making an open source piece of software you often have documention that moves with the file. Some of these files include: Readme License Changes While these things are good for digital files, when building hardware you dont have a folder with files. ...

what are you guys up to
please post more questions
I feel like im the only one
 
11:50 PM
I'm researching as we speak
 
Same here.
 
guys
what do you think of this
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Q: Does a license apply to both the design AND the physical object (if it is made)?

Trevor ClarkeSuppose I have a design for a truck. Simple enough. Possibly in a .CAD file or some such program. I publish this design on my website under a BC-NC-ND licence. Someone on the web finds my design and builds it using wood or a 3d printer. Now we have a phyical object. My Question: Now that we ha...

 
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Q: Do we want to allow specific questions?

trichoplaxFollowing this comment, do we want questions to be general, and helpful to as many people as possible, or do we want to also allow more specific questions that help smaller groups of people? I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's to do with a specific licensing problem. W...

 

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