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2:00 AM
Do you guys think this question would get a faster/better answer over here?
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Q: Trying to ssh into virtualbox static ip ubuntu from debian host

user3337705So, I messed with my /etc/network/interface and assigned the different addresses basically blindfolded. I can't even ping google, and really don't know what my addresses should be. This file describes the network interfaces available on your system and how to activate them. For more information...

It's been languishing on our site and has a flag to be migrated because the debian part.
I can't tell if the problem is in the host or the guest and when I asked the OP he asked me how he could tell so..
 
2:14 AM
@Seth I don't think that's answerable
he should know his ip from a simple ifconfig
if he doesn't even that can offer, anyone trying to help will have a hard time
 
yeah :/
"I'm virtually clueless" then why did you mess with it?
 
2:29 AM
I personally would decline the flag and close the question as unclear, and considering is a VM issue, there's the possibility that he just restarted from a new vm
@derobert Just Do It™
 
 
15 hours later…
5:48 PM
I think it might be time to live dangerously. I'm going to upgrade to Jessie. See you guys in the other side.
 
@FaheemMitha track testing, is more interesting ;)
 
@Braiam as in "may you live in interesting times?"
784 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2266 not upgraded
yowza. And that is just apt-get upgrade.
 
6:04 PM
are you tracking jessie?
 
@Braiam I just switched to tracking jessie. running apt-get upgrade now.
alea jacta est
 
@FaheemMitha snake eyes :-P
 
@derobert snake eyes? that's just cruel.
 
@FaheemMitha Yep. Now, due to your roll, Lennart has destroyed Linux, by doing such dastardly things as implementing dependency handling between services. And worse, services that only start when needed. And, worst of all, faster boot times!
You've got no choice but to install Windows ME. No Lennarts there.
 
"A poll of Americans in 2013 by Public Policy Polling indicated that 4% of registered voters (+/- 2.8%) believed in David Icke's ideas."
Americans should be proud.
@derobert no thanks.
 
6:16 PM
@FaheemMitha I'm surprised 4% know who he is
 
@derobert Well, apparently he gets around.
 
I had to ask Wikipedia...
I haven't upgraded any of the machines at work yet.
 
@derobert I assume you have never met the guy. Fair warning - he might think you were a lizard.
@derobert Why not?
 
@FaheemMitha I might be. Let me get a mirror and check if I have a weird lizard tongue...
 
@FaheemMitha yay, finally a lizard over the internet to heal our hearts of the deception we lived trough
 
6:21 PM
@FaheemMitha First and last week of the month are critical please-don't-break-anything periods to get reports out on time.
 
@derobert Or you could save yourself some time and ask David.
@derobert I see. I'm hoping the jessie upgrade doesn't break anything I don't fancy an install. Actually, I should back stuff up first. Abort! Abort!
I wish I had a sysadmin slave to give orders to.
 
@FaheemMitha I doubt it'll break that bad. But for example, if you had a webserver, fileserver, etc. running on the system, it might be down until you fix the config
But, backups are good even if you're not upgrading.
 
@derobert I don't do backups much. But I figure I ought to back up home at least, as well as my root system. Just in case.
And no, my home machine doesn't run any services.
 
@FaheemMitha you should fix that ("I don't do backups much").
my workstation here is running jessie (well, testing, actually.) But none of the servers, etc. have been upgraded.
 
I seems to be the odd man out... as I upgrade off site
 
6:26 PM
@derobert I guess. But I mostly use mercurial as backup. Plus I have a script running that backs up my email hourly. Kind of a primitive script. Otherwise no.
I guess I could do better.
 
Everyone could. Myself included. In my defense, I just received a new 5TB external drive for backups...
BRB
 
@Braiam Maybe Bill the Lizard is part of our secret overload race.
Apparently he handled 1/2 a million flags. I rest my case.
So, hey, I have a new theory about Gilles! He's one of the lizard master race!
That would explain why he is so cagey about himself.
@derobert I asked David whether I could get hold of him on #debian-apt, and he said sure. He seems a nice guy.
 
6:44 PM
@FaheemMitha But he thinks you're a lizard? :-P
 
@derobert I hope not. Why would he?
 
29 mins ago, by Faheem Mitha
"A poll of Americans in 2013 by Public Policy Polling indicated that 4% of registered voters (+/- 2.8%) believed in David Icke's ideas."
@FaheemMitha ... the last David we were talking about.
 
@derobert Different David. That would be David K., apt maintainer. Who probably doesn't believe a secret alien lizard conspiracy rules the world. Though I haven't actually asked him.
 
@FaheemMitha Presumably, he thinks its cows instead.
 
@derobert yes, maybe he does. The Debian cabal is well known to engage in secret Cow Worship.
In other news, apparently some DC writer just killed Batman. Naughty.
Get your sysadmins to install it? — Faheem Mitha 27 secs ago
I'm not sure why we so often get people here trying to work around sysadmin laziness. There are no happy endings with local installs.
 
6:54 PM
@FaheemMitha Hmm, somehow this notorious murder hasn't made the top of Google News or BBC. Not even CNN!
 
@derobert proof that Western news is censored to exclude the important stuff. Someone call Noam Chomsky.
 
7:09 PM
@FaheemMitha sometimes it isn't lazyness, it is policy you are working against. Local installs need not end badly if you know what you are doing -- though that often isn't the case when people are asking about that here.
 
@casey Policy wrt ipython?
 
@casey is the "If you are asking how to do it, probably you shouldn't do it"?
 
Something that opens up services, maybe? But ipython? And the poster didn't want to "bother" the sysadmin. Very considerate, but perhaps a little silly.
So, trying to configure wireless here. Can I call the SSID anything I want?
 
@Braiam good advice for lots of things
 
do I want SSID isolation?
 
7:20 PM
@FaheemMitha call it: ヽ( º _ º)ノ︵ ┻━┻︵ヽ( º _ º)ノ
will be awesome
 
@Braiam no
 
through if your router doesn't support utf-8 or CJK characters...
@FaheemMitha :(
 
Do I want to "Hide Access Point"?
 
@FaheemMitha nah
 
@Braiam I don't?
 
7:28 PM
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A: Are MAC Address Filtering and SSID Hiding still worthwhile?

RoryNo, neither of these are worthwhile measures against an attacker. Unless you have an easy to guess password you need to assume anyone who might realistically try to gain access to your network has software to help or a little knowledge of how to get around such techniques. SSID hiding doesn't i...

 
7:43 PM
@Braiam ok
Another question. The USB port on my phone seems to be a bit smaller than the regular one. I'd like to hook up a keyboard and mouse to it. Do I need a micro USB to regular USB hub or something?
 
@FaheemMitha Neither. Does your phone do USB-on-the-go (OTG)?
 
@Gilles supposedly, yes. I thought that was how OTG worked. You plug in the keyboard.
 
@FaheemMitha then you need an OTG cable
 
I watched a video about it. Maybe I was not paying attention.
@Gilles I see. Does it work with both a mouse and a keyboard at the same time?
 
@FaheemMitha no, you need a hub if you want to connect more than one device
 
7:46 PM
@Gilles ok. so a hub as well as an OTG cable?
 
@FaheemMitha yes
there may be hubs with the right cable built in
yes, there are
 
@Gilles I see, thanks. Time to do a little surfing, I guess.
@Gilles one of the reasons I got this phone is because of the OTG thing.
well, successfully on wifi now.
So, is play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm a good choice for a terminal app?
Dammit, I need to sign in to download. This sucks.
Are there any good android apps that don't come from Google, and that I don't have to sign in for?
Hmm, chromium
 
@FaheemMitha fdroid (DDG for it)
 
@Gilles DDG?
 
but you do need a google account to install a lot of useful things, like transport information
 
7:58 PM
Is the default Android browser chrome?
@Gilles oh, ok
@Gilles when i tried to install fdroid, it said install blocked because unknown source. What is the good way of resolving this? Maybe I should take this to the android chat.
 
@FaheemMitha the answer is probably googlable
 
@Gilles yes, that's what I'm doing.
 
I don't think I've tried to install fdroid outside cyanogenmod
 
On second thoughts, the solution seems to be to allow installation from unknown sources. Which of course I don't need the net to tell me how to do. But that seems like a really crappy solution.
 
@FaheemMitha under settings->security you need to enable unknown sources if you want to install stuff not from google play
 
8:11 PM
@casey and that's my only option?
Major bummer.
@casey do you have that setting enabled?
 
you can always turn it back on when you are done installing that apk
 
@casey true. still...
 
yes, I enable unknown sources. I trust myself to know what I'm installing instead of giving that up to google
and its nice they provide the option, on iOS you have to jailbreak to do it
 
Apparently now Google is my new overlord. Nice. :-(
I wish I had a Debian phone.
 
@FaheemMitha ? turning on unknown sources frees you from that, for app installs anyway
 
8:14 PM
@casey I still keep hearing about Google. Something about Google checking my security settings.
 
flash cyanogen then. by default you have no google apps unless you flash them separately (they cant distribute them directly without OEM status)
 
@casey I'm not sure it will work on this phone. And I don't want to trash it before I've even started using it. Are there any particularly useful apps that you would suggest for someone mostly using it as a phone with occasional use as a camera?
 
no, and you probably wouldn't like my setup anyway, as I let it sync all my photos taken directly to google :)
I just use the stock google camera app
 
@casey ok
Hmm, I should look for a ssh client.
 
i use juicessh. gilles suggested another one here last time you were talking about ssh, but I don't recall which
 
8:24 PM
@casey probably not me, I don't use ssh on my phone
 
@casey I don't see it in fdroid. Under internet anyway. Or any other ssh client for that matter.
 
one of these days I'll get a tablet... but I might end up using ssh from a Linux environment rather than Android
 
ah, there is something called connectbot? any idea?
 
@FaheemMitha fdroid has a search box
 
@Gilles ok
 
8:26 PM
connectbot looks like it
 
i have a nexus 7. on that I use juicessh and "hacker's keyboard" to replace the default android keyboard
 
@casey hmm. it is better?
 
the ssh client can be whatever, but having a good keyboard makes a difference
 
so, wrt the otg thing, is that phone specific or is it a standard?
 
8:28 PM
@casey ok
 
@FaheemMitha it's a standard, but a lot of phones don't have it
so it's a standard, but it's not standard
 
@Gilles ok. Like I said, I got this phone partly because of that. If I have to type stuff on the screen the whole time I will go mad.
 
you get used to it :)
though I don't do any serious typing on the phone, I leave that to the tablet where the virtual keyboard is bigger
though if it truly is serious work, I grab a laptop
 
@casey i've got fairly large hands. It's painful.
 
 
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10:22 PM
/me wonders why its so hard to get this question reopened... unix.stackexchange.com/questions/198923/…
Aha! Found something: marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=110600795231538 ... and bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4054 . The solution there is apparently to disable CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_CUMANA in the kernel config. That's why the kernel is failing to read the partition table. — derobert 3 mins ago
 
@derobert you and Gilles voted to close, so everyone is too awestruck to attempt to reopen.
But, did you actually want it reopened?
If anyone is wondering what that video is about, someone asked Rumsfeld whether he is a space alien lizard. Talk about redundant questions.
 
@FaheemMitha I voted to reopen as well :-P
 
@derobert Oh. Why did you change your mind?
 
@FaheemMitha op edited and fixed it. unix.stackexchange.com/posts/198923/revisions
 
@derobert voted to reopen. Taking your word for it.
 
10:31 PM
@derobert so did I
it looks answerable now that it isn't just “its not work”
 
@derobert not on the reopen queue
 
Yep. But when it went through the review queue, it picked up several leave closed, including @slm
And of course that kicks it out of the queue.
 
someone needs to clean those comments
 
@derobert are you going to answer, then? I see it is open.
 
@Braiam hopefully tomorrow that kernel recompile will work, then I can post an answer and the comments can be cleaned via rm -Rf
 
11:14 PM
Apparently this phone will not connect as a USB mass storage device. Major bummer.
Supposed to use something called MTP instead. Major General Bummer.
Hmm, an ssh server on the phone might be useful. Then I wouldn't have to physically connect it to get files.
 
slm
@Braiam I cleaned up the comments
 
Hey @slm.
 

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