The Ink Spot

joojaa

18:19

I am a dwarf and digging a hole....

♪ Diggy Diggy Hole

►

JohnB

18:53

@Scott just saw the calligraphy comments...that was a true test of your patience I'm sure :)

Darth_Vader

link?

JohnB

ahh, the return of Vader

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A: What shading technique/effect was used in this calligraphy?

This is a photograph. By leaving a camera shutter open, sitting on a tripod, it's a common effect to use light to create interesting shapes with the long exposure time. A person moved around with a light and the camera picked up the light. There is nothing in that image that is not part of the...

Darth_Vader

@JohnB you should read my new profile

JohnB

haha very creative

Darth_Vader

ya gotta have a little fun since my profile has been hit over 1k

JohnB

18:57

mr. popular

Darth_Vader

wonder if I could dominate that and place an ad there... dont know if SE would approve lol

JohnB

welcome @Johannes_B

Darth_Vader

welcome

JohnB

any relation to the other Johannes on our site? ;P

Johannes_B

@JohnB Hi :-)

@JohnB I am one of the guys from TeX.sx. We need some kind of logo for promitional adds and one of our guys, @EnthusiasticStudent, was asking for some help. :-)

@JohnB No, no connection. :-)

Scott

19:04

@JohnB not at all. I adore users who argue with answers :)

Darth_Vader

chaos...

nothing but chaos

joojaa

@Darth_Vader whats up with the link in your profile?

I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole

Darth_Vader

@joojaa ha ha ha.. I spent so much time on the profile I forgot to finish that

joojaa

:)

Darth_Vader

bummer guess we cant put custom URLs in profiles =(

joojaa

19:08

?

whats so suctom of your url

Dom

19:34

@Johannes_B I'm happy to do something super quick, not a logo but a site ad, just need the text you want, font you want, and logo

Also @EnthusiasticStudent same goes, I can only do one version, with like 5 mins of revisions after - and you have no obligation to use it lol

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom This is the request @Johannes_B is pointing to.

2 days ago, by Enthusiastic Student

I am a user of TeX.SX. In our site, it seems that we do not have any image to use in the Stack Exchange promotion ads part. Users are thinking about making an image for community promotions. Can I ask somebody here to help us with our promotions ads image?

Dom

@EnthusiasticStudent I noticed that the other day, but it's not enough info to do anything with

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom May I ask you to post your design to it's relevant meta question on TeX.SX?

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Q: Which image to use in community promotions ads of other Stack Exchange websites for TeX.SX?

I want to propose TeX.SX and promote it on the Academia.SX's Community Promotion Ads - 2015 but I do not find any image to put in the advertisement. Is there any image for such purpose which is specifically designed for TeX.SX? [![Tagline to show on mouseover][2]][3]

Johannes_B

@Dom Well, if you could make something nice, that would be nice. As i said in our chat room, it might be hard to pormote something (even a logo) if you don't know what LaTeX is all about.

JohnB

If you do a rough draft of what you want, he (or I or whoever) can put it together for you

just describe how you want it. The logo with text under it? If so, what should the text say?

etc

Dom

19:38

check out graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/18569/… it's very over-complicated for what you're asking, but it should give a better idea of what's needed

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom So, should we just open a new post in the TeX.SX to ask the community about their expectations?

Dom

JohnB's advice is a lot easier lol

@EnthusiasticStudent I don't know if that's necessary, but it would probably take a few days atleast

@EnthusiasticStudent do you have any idea what you're after? I imagine it would include the Tex logo and the colour scheme, so that's two parts specified

Enthusiastic Student

@Johannes_B What should we do? What about asking users in the TeX's chatroom?

Johannes_B

@EnthusiasticStudent Can you share the link to yesterdays announcement? I am happy to star it and stick it to the right list.

Enthusiastic Student

@Johannes_B Announcement on Graphics chatroom?

This is the link: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/21041063#21041063

2 days ago, by Enthusiastic Student

I am a user of TeX.SX. In our site, it seems that we do not have any image to use in the Stack Exchange promotion ads part. Users are thinking about making an image for community promotions. Can I ask somebody here to help us with our promotions ads image?

@Dom This is what I professionally created by Paint last week :))

I do not know whether it helps or not.

JohnB

19:50

very helpful!

Johannes_B

@EnthusiasticStudent No, TeX.sx room. Star it there

@EnthusiasticStudent There is a whitespace between the endash and the L of LaTeX

Enthusiastic Student

@Johannes_B Yes... it's just a childish draft.

Johannes_B

@EnthusiasticStudent I don't know, if anybody would trey to run this example, i think they would be disappointed.

Enthusiastic Student

@Johannes_B yes... :(

Johannes_B

@EnthusiasticStudent Haven't thought about it, but some add for TeX.sx might be hard.

Enthusiastic Student

19:54

@Johannes_B I cannot find it...

Dom

@Johannes_B , @EnthusiasticStudent I'm working on something for you, will have it ready shortly but I'm doing stuff in between, I'll just write something simple and you guys can change it in revision, just working on getting the logo in, background pattern and colour scheme

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Here is a promotion image for TeX's meta

There are other TeX - LaTeX related sites' advertisements in the promotions ads for 2015 too

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Q: Community Promotion Ads - 2015

The dawn of a new year, 2015, now approaches, or has already approached, either way it means that it is now time to reset our Community Promotion Ads! What are Community Promotion Ads? Community Promotion Ads are community-vetted advertisements that will show up on the main site, in the right s...

discussion community-ads

Their design may give some ideas...

@Dom Also, the picture of a lion in TeX documents is a well known graphic between the TeX community

google.com/search?q=latex+lion

Dom

20:12

@EnthusiasticStudent @Johannes_B I've got this so far, will be back on it in 20-30 mins, just leaving it here in case you get any ideas for when I'm back

Johannes_B

@Dom Take your time. To be honest, i don't really bother

:-p

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Thanks...

Dom

20:30

@EnthusiasticStudent , @Johannes_B what's the famous latex typeface called, and is it freely available?

got it, computer modern

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Yes. People in TeX.SX's chatroom said Computer Modern

in TeX, LaTeX and Friends, 17 secs ago, by Joseph Wright

@EnthusiasticStudent Yes, but for non-TeX applications Latin Modern is rather more accessible

Dom

@EnthusiasticStudent that answers my next question, downloading now thanks

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Thank you...

Dom

20:58

@EnthusiasticStudent I'm haven't got time to look into the licenses for these images, I've added a couple, but I think you need to contact the image creators to see if you can use them, unless they're under a creative commons license

I'm providing one with the images and one without so you can see

@Johannes_B , @EnthusiasticStudent see above

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Thanks... but I am not so sure about the text provided in the images...

may be the one which is written in the help centre be a good choice

TeX - LaTeX is a question and answer site for users of TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt, and related typesetting systems [...]

tex.stackexchange.com/tour

Dom

@EnthusiasticStudent that's where I adapted it from, I think that's probably either going to look squashed or hard to read on a medium of this size

I can change it, but I can't give much time to do changes so I'd prefer if you agree with your fellow users the text you want because I can only really change the text once along with any other changes

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom, lets wait to see what @Johannes_B says. I am out of idea... Also, I am a little worried about what you said about the licenses...

Scott

21:13

Just FYI :) Our own community promo ads arent' that fleshed out: meta.graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/1340/… Most of us do this all day every day and working overtime for it seems to be a struggle at our own site. That may be why the overall reception was tepid to work on it for teX. Just an observation.

Dom

@Scott I couldn't agree more, though it probably also has a lot to do with how high our standards are around here, producing something we're proud of takes too much free time

@JohnB any quick thoughts on the above?

JohnB

I was thinking of creating one for chat to try and get more people in here

Dom

That's the best idea for one of those so far

Enthusiastic Student

in TeX, LaTeX and Friends, 1 min ago, by Paulo Cereda

I guess they are copyrighted. :(

JohnB

@Dom don't smack me for saying it (re: Q&A post)...but I definitely won't have time tonight

I'll try my best to work something up tomorrow and maybe post it in here for feedback

Dom

21:23

@JohnB hehe I was thinking about mentioning the lack of 'if I have time' :P but it's not something I hold against you at all, I think you do plenty already

JohnB

well I don't like to make empty promises either so I'm happy you pointed it out :)

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom Thank you for your time... I have to leave my desk now.

Dom

@JohnB I could setup a psd or ai containing all of the theme assets for our site and drop it into my dropbox for you to work with tomorrow if that'll help?

JohnB

well, if you do...please Ai ;P

that sounds like a great idea though!

Dom

@EnthusiasticStudent ok ping me when you decide with your fellow users on the final changes and I'll make them (small ones)

@JohnB it'll give me a chance to figure out importing patterns in AI, I used the other one as a chance for learning patterns in PS

JohnB

21:30

even just a mini "branding guide" for our site would be really neat. The vector logo(s), any sort of vector shape on the site (badge icons etc), and a swatch of the colors the site uses

is that background pattern vector? I'll be impressed if it is

ah nope, png

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom People there seem not so sure about the licence of the images in the logo...

Dom

@JohnB yeah that's what I checked first lol

@EnthusiasticStudent one is from here: ctan.org/lion/files the other is from here: ccs.neu.edu/home/dorai/tex2page if you contact the owners for permission or details then you'll have no problem, I think any amateur illustrators would love to have their pic on an SE ad

back soon

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom I see...

But I prefer not to be the person involved in the copy right issues anyway.

So I prefer not to continue to find a promotions image for TeX.SX

By the way... Thank you very much for your time...

Scott

21:45

So.. I've got houseguest and they are really annoying.

All they do is sit around in their underwear smoking weed.

Every day, all day. I leave and come back and they are still in the same position. Sitting in their underwear and smoking weed.

They keep ordering pizzas so the trash is overflowing with pizza boxes

I don't even know where they are getting the money for the pizza (or weed)

They litterally never leave the couch

This has been going on for a couple weeks

I'm so sick of them just sitting around in their underwear

It's off-putting and kind of gross. And the whole house smells like weed

So finally last night I had had enough.

I finally sat down with them and said...

"Look, mom, dad, your'e going to have to find somewhere else to stay."

Dom

@Scott hahahahaa :D

@EnthusiasticStudent okay no problem, if you can't give any more time to it I'll probably post it as is and let your community decide.

Scott

@Dom he/she probably cringes a bit when he/she leaves then you ping him/her again :)

Dom

@Scott lol do you think I scared them off by continuously stating I can't give much time?

Scott

22:01

Not sure. I jsut notice he leaves, you ping, he returns.. that happened like 3 times :)

I haven't been really following that conversation though.

Dom

22:12

@Scott When I embed a png for a pattern and then create a swatch, will that swatch be saved inside the new document when I pass it to JohnB?

Dom

22:23

@JohnB anything else need to be included here?

Enthusiastic Student

@Dom That would be best if you post it as a meta post to TeX.SX and let comments come to it before your final revision. Please mention all the copy rights issues too. In my opinion, it is better not to include any images in it.

One of the users also said this:

in TeX, LaTeX and Friends, 47 mins ago, by barbara beeton

@EnthusiasticStudent -- (arriving late at the party, i guess ...) the shapes of the "Q", "&" and "A" are such that if they are "evenly spaced", the "Q" looks much closer to "&" than "&" to "A". some kerning, please, for a nicer appearance.

I think that you can post your design as an answer to

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Q: Which image to use in community promotions ads of other Stack Exchange websites for TeX.SX?

I want to propose TeX.SX and promote it on the Academia.SX's Community Promotion Ads - 2015 but I do not find any image to put in the advertisement. Is there any image for such purpose which is specifically designed for TeX.SX? [![Tagline to show on mouseover][2]][3]

discussion site-promotion

Scott

@Dom to be 100% honest, I've never used a raster image in an AI pattern. I have no clue how it will act.

Dom

22:44

@Scott that's reassuring lol I suppose it will be fine but I've left the PNG embedded and hidden anyway just in case

Scott

traditionally I'd jsut manually recreate the emblem, then make a pattern if needed.

Dom

I thought about doing that but then there's also the need to keep it at a consistent size, so rescaling is not so attractive, am I right in this case?

Scott

You can scale a pattern after it's been applied, but initially it's the size it is created at.

I should have ran for moderator.. just for the badges :)

Dom

22:59

You'd probably only be facing Muhammad lol

Scott

He's gunna win.. hands down. If he doesn't I say REVOLUTION!!!!!

Dom

I think it at least shows he wants to be more involved, and maybe he could be a more positive contributor if we welcomed him

Scott

uhm.. your'e more optimistic than I am. I think it shows he wants to do whatever he wants without moderation.

Dom

I thought it was over tonight until about 3 hours ago lol

Scott

He'd be the "crooked cop" basically.

Dom

23:03

@Scott haha, I think a mod would lose their position pretty quickly if they abused it, unless they were very sneaky

Scott

Yeah but I'd really guess that's what he was up to. He's been pretty clear in his comments and activity.

I don't think he's thought THAT far ahead.

Would make for some interesting drama to read though :)

Dom

Yeah but I do think the community piled on to him a bit, the questions could have been softer, it's almost like an interrogation lol

Scott

Do you remember the comments he's posted? They were outright disrepectful and insulting.

I think he got off kind of lightly for being so bold as to nominate himself.

Dom

Only one or two faintly, I think I missed a lot of the drama

Always miss the drama in my timezone :(

Scott

Imagine John Hinkley applied for a job on Reagan's cabinet... that's sort of the scenario :)

Or the joker wanted to join the Justice League :)

Still woudl liven things up for a few days I suspect. I'd be banned for sure :)

Dom

23:10

lol if he had any sense he'd make a new account, I really wish I knew what happened

I missed the other ones aswell and everyone is mature so they keep shtum lol

Scott

Jsut basically calling everyone old and out of touch and then overall complainign abotu moderators becuase his off-topic questions "weren't allows to be open just to see if anyone answered"

Dom

I'm starting to remember that he just misses the point no matter how nicely you try and say it

Scott

He clearly has the impression everyonehere is a senior citizen and has no clue how the world actually works.

Yeah. No matter how polite and kind people are he always ends up being insulting.

He's young.. Just very young and it shows. I'd suspect a high school student.

And... he's the same impolite, off-topic, demanding user at freelance.se so it's not just here.

Dom

I think that's why we need properly fleshed-out guidelines and more relevant help topics (not saying it will fix it for sure) but with a good explanation people can be brought around to the right direction

I was talking to JohnB about it before, and it turns out the FAQs in the help center are the same across the network, besides one editable page

Scott

yeah they are very standard.

Dom

23:18

also note how many are about negative actions

Scott

Freelancing.se should just be folded up. But it does show a possible need for accounting.se or taxstuff.se

I just think the "help" addresses the overall SE UI and not really the specific site help. A broader, site-specific help section would probably be useful.. but... no one ever looks at the help files... Adobe PROVES that :)

Dom

Closing a site throws away a lot of hard work though :/ and I think they have a few money sites

That's what I had in mind, instead of overhauling the existing content, they could just add a site specific FAQ box above it

Scott

Well questions at freelancing.se suck for the most part. WAY too localized for the most part and a good 50% of them are "how to I make money"

Dom

Fair enough, I haven't used that site so I have no idea, I just thought it was doing well because it was around so long

Scott

nah it's still in beta

Dom

23:25

I need to upload that file, post that design and get to bed, nice chatting with you @Scott

Scott

you too Dom :)

Dom

don't forget to vote for me :P

Scott

:)

Dom

GDSE Graphic Assets in an AI file

does that link work?

@JohnB ai file with the assets in the link above

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