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20:00
that's true, but not convenient enough
Also true.
@janos Maybe his internet cable froze? ;)
I use that + Yahoo Pipes to generate stuff like this:
this is from the days when I used to hunt rep on SO
I kept a list of "good" users who upvote + mark accepted
on CR it's not needed though
That reminds me, @janos You said you can see my upvotes!?
I don't think I said that. I can see your upvotes the way you can see mine
which is: like the way you connected the dots the other day, when Manny upvoted me, and a couple minutes later he found himself getting upvoted too...
20:08
lol.. @janos that wasn't a typo. That was a duck that can't spell.
Well, I was up-voting him, I had a feeling you were too, but it was confirmed by your editing one of the posts containing his question or answer.
it was kind of funny to read, maybe I should have left it
It's the principal of the matter...
wait, was that a bad edit?
I like going through old posts from you guys, it tends to actually teach me something, and you deserve all the up-votes!
20:11
@janos No. You were spot on.
Soo..... does anyone know if this is as bad as it looks to me?
    public void Dispose()
    {
        try
        {
            if (!this.Stopped)
            {
                throw new InvalidOperationException("Cannot dispose of a session that has not been stopped");
            }

            Console.WriteLine("Disconnected Connnection [ID: " + this.Id + "] and their associated resources.");
        }
        catch (Exception exception)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("[Dispose] " + exception.Message);
        }
    }
ah I remember: "the principal should work" -- I had a good laugh at that one (poor principal (like at a school)), so much work stack on him ;-)
If that error gets thrown, does it just get immediately caught?
Technically, yes.
20:12
@janos which do you prefer?
Gotta eat. Be back later.
See you @MannyMeng Hello @Jamal
@Legato off topic. "Primarily opinion based." =P
the flat version fits within 70 chars, so I'd prefer that
it's subjective, but I think most people prefer that
@janos I have a linux machine at home with the browser always open, I thought.
Seems it's been closed?
I also have another laptop that's normally always logged in, but that laptop is closed, and in my bag here... for the first time in ages.
20:14
thought that much. It's good you have us warn you about that server.
you might want to check on it
Just to confirm...'flat' is # 3?
It';s not the server.... it's just a linux desktop. The server should not be bothered with things like browsers ;-)
@Legato oh I see I missed a subtle difference: so flat, and not breaking within (...)
And, I am about to go home, so this machine will go offline again, so I will be logging out.... ;-)
so that looks #2 to me
20:16
> visited 495 days, 495 consecutive
^^^ still on track though
@RubberDuck yes it looks like a completely pointless try-catch
Thanks for confirming all. I just ran it through an online compiler.... and yeah. Pointless.
@Legato Hi!
There doesn't appear to be any C people here, but I'm not sure if my question is specific only to C. It has to do with reallocation of memory.
@Legato about voting, I find this page interesting in the beginning of a week: codereview.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Voters&filter=week
I have a feeling OP is going to come back and say it's not his real code....
@janos I'm slacking!
Errr.... working too hard to vote here.
20:27
@janos Neat. @Hosch250 is King!
this week, surprisingly, not yet
True, haha. Wonder if he takes it as a
I see 43 votes: probably 40 from yesterday still. Maybe he didn't see much interesting stuff today yet. Unless he forgot to vote yesterday
Actually, I typically pull ahead Tuesday.
I don't remember voting too much yesterday, but I've done a ton today.
Don't have much else to contribute.
I wonder who was my santa...
20:30
Talking about voting, this answer by a new user needs more: codereview.stackexchange.com/a/83680/34073
@Legato Oh, that was probably me.
I did a few of your posts yesterday.
I would it be today?
I'm tired and confused from DST
Yeah, a lot of my friends seem more tired than usual.
And, only 5 votes left...
I should probably be doing school, but I'm thinking about taking an hour or so off to try to regain my brains.
20:33
Hi.
I just gave glampert a Nice Answer.
Which reminds I'm actually really close to a nice answer myself. I didn't expect it would be so well received. /feels_good
Which?
I just DVLR'ed, but maybe tomorrow.
I don't even know when I answered 14 questions. I remember recently thinking I ask and wanted to contribute with answers, heh.
I should start DV'ing more bad questions.
Then deleting them once they are closed.
9
A: Decomposing the animal kingdom

LegatoThere's a lot of extending going on here. You should consider using interfaces, especially given the addition of default methods in Java 8. Also, some of your class names are strange: Sporting extends Dog and Working extends Dog would likely strike any onlookers as highly unusual. SportsDo...

20:35
Oh, already done.
That was the funny name.
(I think.)
I don't really down-vote. I just tell the people, "Hey, this is doesn't fit"
@Legato thanks for this, awesome!
Me too, but if I DV, then I can get a higher vote count because I get my vote back after the post is deleted.
@janos Catching up!
@Legato done.
20:37
@Hosch250 I did that :)
Legato looks set to get Mortarboard today
@Legato I see that you have a deleted answer on that question...
@MannyMeng Woot, thank you!
That's my first answer ever, I think. I only ever deleted two answers.
@Legato You're welcome. It's the least I can do...
I've deleted a couple recently.
One, I accidentally essentially re-wrote one of the other answers.
I deleted two in my whole CR life. (my own)
@Hosch250 I remember discussion about that in the chatroom.
20:39
One, I gave terrible advice.
Yeah, I was reading the other answers and missed the highest-voted one.
The FizzBuzz one I decided I liked for my own personal reasons, and that maybe it wasn't objectively good advice.
The other one I actually gave what I thought was good advice on solving the problem, but it had nothing to do with what the OP wanted (performance).
Hmm...
Mine:
@Legato The FizzBuzz one is actually pretty good, I think.
20:42
@janos was awesome and used part of what I deleted in his own answer and tagged me. Which I really appreciated. I was thinking I just wasn't knowledgeable enough to give any worthwhile answers.
One: I gave advice about the main() method, and the OP downvoted my post.
@Hosch250 Thanks for that.
The other: I just didn't like it.
I've deleted a couple Q's too.
I never had deleted Q's.
Except when I first came to this site from SO
I cross-posted one of my questions.
And then the one on SO got migrated here.
20:44
I actually deleted my first question yesterday, to make an edit based on a comment, right before un-deleting it. I think I screwed Janos over though /sadness /sorrow
Then it was closed as a duplicate.
One, was an LOLCODE question that was good, but we decided we didn't want more LOLCODE.
Wait @MannyMeng a CR post was closed as duplicate?
Yep.
Mine.
...That's odd.
20:45
I helped close a post as a duplicate once.
When I posted the same question on both SO and CR.
The user was posting the identical question multiple times.
And then the SO one got migrated to CR.
@Hosch250 I saw that one.
And I still remember it.
My other deleted Q was a FizzBuzz that I decided I didn't like.
@janos :o wow, you're right, I've never been so close.
20:46
@Legato don't worry about it, it's all good
Give @Legato two A upvotes, someone.
Eh, it'll happen, probably.
@janos Still really sorry, glad you don't let it faze you. It completely fibbed your otherwise excellent answer. I won't repeat that again.
@Hosch250 Huh?
I really derped on what "1-based" meant though.
Oh snap, you guys have done it.
20:51
Congrats @Legato on Mortarboard! (could take a couple of minutes to arrive though)
Oh...
I voted up three answers...
oh.. my... god.
Thanks @MannyMeng
I am so damn jealous now
@Legato You're welcome, again.
20:53
huh? new mugshot @Vogel612?
ya new mugshot
Well, @Vogel612 you can try for it too...
@MannyMeng well I did...
I probably was closest on my first day around here...
But 287 is simply not enough for mortarboard
It's thanks to @janos noticing I was 20 points away. and @MannyMeng for finding two things to upvote. WooHoo.
..wait what!?
Large amount of points from bounties/accepted answers?
20:55
1
Q: Follow-up: Randomizing Civilization 5 team choice

Simon KarfunkelThis is a follow-up on my previous question about a VBA macro for randomizing a draw from a table. It can be found here: Randomizing Civilization 5 team choice The code has been improved with the help I got earlier and I now seek even further improvements. Public Enum CivilizationTableColumns ...

That's weird.
oh wait no.. there actually was one accept
Well, I haven't officially gotten the badge. So maybe it's just a bug, did you report it?
Haha...
20:56
OOOH.
Lol.
ah, you have to reach the daily limit
Well, so it was 178...
Wow, so close.
ah well.
Mine just came in.
20:57
180 on Jul 3rd
My closest was 135:
ya I got 170 and 175 and then it starts at 140 downwards
Lol, interestingly enough I was close yesterday too, with 173.
^^^ I noticed that
well you're asking interesting questions
20:58
yesterday I thought you would cap
@janos Does it account for the +2 you get for accepting an answer?
the war has flared up....
is there any standards that are written without a set of curly-braces around a single line block of code? I would say that it is standard to use curly braces around for statements. — Malachi 20 secs ago
@Legato not sure
I see, thank you.
21:00
@Vogel612 you have a new picture, I don't recognize you.
but:
Note the -50
So would that be 135 or 185?
@SimonAndréForsberg hm, and kind of creepy too
you're flattering me :)
Everyone's freaking out over the changed picture, haha.
21:01
@Malachi check msdn... they should have ssomething on that
@MannyMeng Vogel.
@janos true, but the creepy-part is recognizable
</joke>
@RubberDuck @Mat'sMug looks like Simon's friend Simon is back for some more of your wisdom: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/83684/…
blogs.msdn.com/b/brada/archive/2005/01/26/361363.aspx 'curly braces should never be considered optional'
21:04
Aw, just tested if you could set a gif, doesn't work.
@janos they're already on it :)
in VBA, 9 mins ago, by RubberDuck
Not waiting for @StackExchange. The follow up will be much harder to pick on.
Simon is even in the VBA room now. Now they can no longer write @Sim and press tab and be sure to ping me :)
I think I might even try to go for an android app chat when JCE comes out. Probably would need to port jce though...
Any of you guys interested? ?
@Vogel612 I actually found an MSDN example that one-lined a for loop without the braces.....msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/txafckwd(v=vs.110).aspx under index component
what is this world coming to?
@Vogel612 I'm interested in the JCE project, but not sure if/how to use it yet. Can't guarantee anything :)
I'm starting to feel that @Duga is doing quite fine without the full interactivity.
@janos - browser now reopened
21:23
This might do better on CodeReview. — Hugh Bothwell 29 secs ago
@HughBothwell The question says "Ive started the assignment and i'm having trouble creating the linked lists of packages for the containers so the lightest is on top while managing the maximum weight limit for each package. And Im having issues generating the id's for the packages and containers." - this indicates that there are existing issues that needs to be solved. Code Review is only for questions that work as intended. — Simon André Forsberg 1 min ago
@Duga Smart Duga!
@Vogel612 this may be a stupid question, but what's JCE?
@rolfl Isn't I the one who is smart? It was my comment, not @Duga's
2
@janos Java Chat Exchange. A library for SE Chat
21:33
oh
Did you just get Duga to star your message... ? ;-)
^^^ that was me, actually ;-)
It's starred twice...
the other was probably rolfl
@rolfl I can't star!
21:39
So... we were supposed to do 2 interviews today. I've never been on that side of an interview.
I am the star!
I did star.
@nhgrif - find anyone half as good as you ...? ;-) ?
When I got in this morning, my boss had sent me an email explaining that he'd miss at least the first half of the first interview....
The second guy never showed up.
The first guy knew SQL, sort of. About at the level I'd expect from someone straight out of college, I guess.
But he didn't know how to program.
@nhgrif That's a good sign that he probably should not get picked.
Yeah, no, we won't be talking to the second guy again.
21:41
For questions of style, perhaps CodeReview is better suited. — shadow 1 min ago
I don't want to use the word "failure". We haven't 100% eliminated him.
But he wasn't able to do Fizz Buzz... he wasn't able to do softball questions like "List at least two methods of looping."
@Duga yup, that one I can agree with.
@nhgrif for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++) and for (int i : array) ?
Oh, the humanity!
As a bare miminum, I was looking for an answer as simple as "For loop, and while loop."
yeah, while-loop too. And do-while and the best one of them all: GOTO!
But realistically, it serves as an opportunity for someone to mention several different ways of looping, potentially up to including recursion and GOTO statements.
21:44
fizz buzz is really a sanity check. anybody who can't do it is automatically out
Right.
btw I've never seen anybody yet who couldn't do it
I have.
I give them a homework question first
21:44
As a matter of fact... I've yet to see someone I've interviewed be able to do it...
-2
Q: Can't find the issue

YEA1903 I'm a beginner at coding and my teacher gave me this task to do, but I don't know how to, but I done it so far. Error 1 'Swapping.Program.mysort(int[])': not all code paths return a value C:\Users\user\Documents\Visual Studio 2013\Projects\Swapping\Swapping\Program.cs 37 2...

and I would expect all candidates for a job to be able to list at list two methods of looping.
But... I guess this guy thought this was more of a data analysis position... perhaps the advertisement is poorly worded, I don't know.
My boss said we'd talk to him again next week. He did do sufficiently well on the SQL side.
but I said, if there is zero improvement on the VB side, I couldn't agree to hiring him at all.
@nhgrif that might explain it.
this is what I ask as a homework assignment: gist.github.com/janosgyerik/5003505 And only invite for interview if the solution is acceptable
21:46
We're okay with someone who has little experience, but no matter who we get, we need someone who can figure things out on their own.
@Hosch250 if you actually think it is good I actually may un-delete it tomorrow.
I gave him FizzBuzz today. Next interview, I'll come up with a different, slightly more difficult problem (he already knows what we're expecting).
If he's still at square one and completely clueless, it'll be pretty bad.
Having seen FizzBuzz now and knowing that he's already been asked it, if he can't knock it out in 10 minutes next week, I'd be extremely disappointed.
Do you guys actually name it fizz buzz?
Yes.
I feel like in your positions I would change the names.
21:51
Why?
We shoot for freshmen who can learn and grow. We don't have particularly high standards (can't afford). But if you can't do fizzbuzz, you're out, 100%. I'd go as far as shortcut the interview
If it's something you sent him home with, won't he just look it up?
I didn't send him home with it.
I don't intend to spend time on it next time.
I'd have some fun and ask "print 'rofl' for 3" and "print 'copter' for 5"
Ah.
Except maybe a minute or two at the beginning. "Did you figure out Fizz Buzz?"
21:52
0
Q: Arranging 8 queens on an 8x8 board

giulio Print all the ways of arranging eight queens on an 8x8 board. Rules: Queens should not share the same row, column, of any diagonal. Any comment on my solution? I didn't write unit tests but I checked visually the solutions. public class solution { public static void printMatrix(char[][...

I just got back, read too quickly I guess.
I think when you guys can spare a moment, I may bother you @SimonAndréForsberg @janos to ask what you look for in a candidate, if you don't mind.
Personally, I don't want someone who is telling me what I want to hear. It's kind of easy to tell when someone is giving you an honest answer versus someone who is just trying to tell you what you want to hear to impress you.
I thought you've never done this before?
Wow, I really misread.

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