The DMZ

Rory Alsop

20:01

@DavidFreitag name another demersal gold coloured aquatic creature

AviD

barnacles?

Simon

pls

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Some Angler fish have a golden hue

Scott Pack

Some hamsters have a golden hue as well. Like this one.

Ohnana

@RoryAlsop clown fishy :D

David Freitag

20:06

@ScottPack Hahahahaha, but it looks fake

Simon

@AviD I'm almost 24 and I think I'm super old.

AviD

14 mins ago, by AviD

If You're Only 20-Something, Stop Saying You're Old

Simon

@AviD I was quoting that you scumdonut.

AviD

@Simon III KNNOOOOOOWWWW

Simon

WHY DO I HAVE TO GIVE A REASON FOR REBOOTING?

DO YOU ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHEN I'M TAKING A SHIT?

FUCKING #WINDOW SERVER 2K12

AviD

20:10

BECAUSE YOU CANT BE TRUSTED TO TAKE CARE OF THE SERVER YOURSELF

Gilles

-1

Q: Are web scrapers fooled by obscured emails anymore?

It's a common practice online that instead of writing your email as [email protected] people will instead write it as someone AT email.com in an attempt to make it harder for web scrapers to find your email address on a web site. Is this even that effective anymore? I would imagine anyone scrapi...

web-scraping

do we want this here, perhaps after some editing?

David Freitag

@Simon Yes, now get a pen.

Rory Alsop

@Gilles I think it would work, yes

raz

@Gilles Maybe? It's vaguely security related.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Can I get a donut instead?

David Freitag

20:12

@Simon If you can write legibly with it.

AviD

@DavidFreitag moreso than with a pen.

raz

@Gilles Maybe rename the topic, "Do obscured emails still provide a reasonable level of security?"

Gilles

@raz yes, if it gets migrated here we'll edit it

Simon

@DavidFreitag I wouldn't use it to write. I'm taking a shit, I obviously have something I can use to write.

David Freitag

@Simon You're taking a shit, but you have a donut?

Simon

20:14

@DavidFreitag You can't eat while taking a dump?

raz

@Simon Definitely shouldn't be talking to us while taking a dump. And if you are, you certainly shouldn't tell us about it.

Simon

You guys suck at multitasking or what?

AviD

Hmm.

Simon

Hell, I could even pet a kitten too right now.

AviD

This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; the topic of this room is "A bunch of dangerous sociopaths with a long history of violence. I don't understand how you keep forgetting that." - conversation should be limited to that topic.

DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM

SCAT TALK IS OFF TOPIC

3

I AM THE ONLY THAT CAN TALK IN HERE

raz

20:16

False

AviD

ROOM IS ALL MINE ONLY FOR ME

dammit

David Freitag

@Simon Probably not the best plan.

raz

lol

Ohnana

@Simon old colleague used to put "arse" for the reason no matter what

raz

@AviD It's like it never happened....

Simon

20:17

@Ohnana Very good idea.

Ohnana

also that cooldown animation is eye-bleed inducing

raz

Don't miss a number!

David Freitag

@Ohnana You should probably get that checked out, I'm not sure you should be bleeding from that orifice.

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag eh, shit happens

David Freitag

@Ohnana careful now, gonna get put in timeout

AviD

20:18

@Ohnana dammit, now you got @Simon going again

Simon

I'M A SCAT MAN

Ohnana

@Simon you're an idiot

2

Simon

NOTICE THE SPACE BETWEEN SCAT AND MAN?

AviD

@Ohnana I have no idea what that is

Simon

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT

raz

20:19

:facepalm: I hate you guys. I hate you guys... so... very... much

Ohnana

@AviD big numbers starting at the bottom left, and doing a blowup animation like a terrible powerpoint

AviD

awww I'll never get to see that :-(

raz

@Ohnana That was better than most power points I've seen.

AviD

@raz lol

Ohnana

my eyes, I'm suing for emotional damages

raz

20:20

You had it right the first time.

AviD

@Ohnana you could just mute @Simon

Ohnana

it looked like the command so I thought it was wrong

raz

@Ohnana haha!

Simon

I was gone for about 3 hours, I needed to cause chaos after my downtime.

Ohnana

imagine su-ing to different se users

nonconsensual sockpuppetry everywhere

raz

20:22

sudo @AviD

Didn't work

Simon

sudo fix @Simon

broken pipe

raz

sudo su - @AviD

nope

Gilles

@raz sudo pkill -u avid

raz

sudo killall @Simon

Ohnana

touch @Avid

Simon

20:24

sudo touch @AviD

AviD

oof I tried coming up with a witty retort but I suck at bash :-(

Simon

@Ohnana COME ON

Ohnana

ahaha unix

@Simon HAH!

raz

sudo finger @Simon

2

Ohnana

I WIN

David Freitag

20:24

@Simon That shouldn't break... You should probably get that checked out.

Simon

@raz pls

Rory Alsop

@Ohnana I've not ever seen that

Ohnana

@raz wait, you don't need sudo for that?

@RoryAlsop goddamn mod privledge i tell you what

Rory Alsop

@Ohnana not if I'm missing out on a cool animation, it isn't :-)

raz

sudo mount @Simon'sMom /home/raz

Simon

20:26

pls

AviD

@raz you dont need sudo for that

Simon

@AviD ffs

raz

0

Q: Are web scrapers fooled by obscured emails anymore?

It's a common practice online that instead of writing your email as [email protected] people will instead write it as someone AT email.com in an attempt to make it harder for web scrapers to find your email address on a web site. Is this even that effective anymore? I would imagine anyone scrapi...

email

Edit away!

Ohnana

@AviD I ALREADY MADE THAT JOKE

GET YOUR OWN

raz

You totally need sudo to mount

Ohnana

20:27

@raz not if the block device is owned by you. your mount point is under ownership

AviD

@raz @Simon's mom is set to world accessible.

raz

@AviD Ahahahahaha

@AviD And executable!

Is that too dark?

AviD

@raz that is either awful, or it doesnt make sense.

David Freitag

@raz No, @Simon's mom needs to run.

AviD

I've tried....

Ohnana

20:28

4 mins ago, by raz

sudo killall @Simon

hmmmm

AviD

@DavidFreitag yeah, but anybody can get her running

raz

it would only kick Simon out of chat, he could rejoin.

David Freitag

@AviD Yeah inertia is a pain in the ass

AviD

@DavidFreitag anybody can give her that too.

Flyk

@raz Is that not essentially answered here?

David Freitag

20:29

lololol

Feck.

Feck. Feck. Feck. Now we've got $300 worth of coasters.

Damned JEDEC datasheets

AviD

@DavidFreitag saweeeet!

David Freitag

One single 0.3mm mistake

AviD

@DavidFreitag you're a single 0.3mm mistake

wow, that one works at so many levels

I'm like a philosopher of snark.

David Freitag

@AviD That's not what your mom said last night.

AviD

@DavidFreitag see, that was already implied.

one of the many levels

David Freitag

20:38

I'm going to go crawl in a small hole and die for a few hours.

AviD

also implied.

that was the insult that keeps on giving.

kinda like your mom.

David Freitag

@AviD Funny, it didn't feel very insulting.

AviD

@DavidFreitag right, because it was so deep.

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag you could sell 'em

AviD

Wait for it, you'll feel it tonight.

... also what I said to your mom.

DAMN I'm on FIRE

David Freitag

20:40

@AviD She told me you lied to her, she didn't feel a damn thing.

Ohnana

@AviD you're reusing the same joke every 5 minutes

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Nah they need to serve as a constant reminder of my screw up

Ohnana

the middle schoolers are getting bored

Flyk

I answered an infosec question \o/

AviD

@Ohnana just like I'm reusing his mom, eh? ;-)

Flyk

20:41

mock me for getting it wrong, quick

David Freitag

@Simon this mix is crazy good. youtube.com/watch?v=Mq8VJsthMlc

AviD

@Ohnana you missed that I was doing it ironically.

@DavidFreitag why do I still click on any music from you or @Simon?

David Freitag

@AviD Because there is something seriously wrong with you.

AviD

actually thats not too bad

wait

I think Emma confused me.

or maybe the first half is not the worst thing I've heard

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag I could use that chunky bit after the word 'Pandora' and add some lovely heavy distorted guitars in, and I'd probably quite like it

David Freitag

20:43

@AviD You listened to the first half of a two hour mix already?

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag I'm only at 3 minutes

AviD

@DavidFreitag you think I have patience to listen to it normally?

David Freitag

Oh god this is so good, I'm glad because it makes me completely forget about how much trouble I'm in

AviD

@DavidFreitag why are you in trouble, not enough coasters?

Flyk

nobody mocked me, how can I refuel my hatred without mocking

AviD

20:45

or if its too many - just throw a crazy rave party at work, your bosses will be glad to have all those coasters all of a sudden

@Flyk you didnt link

raz

@Flyk My name is @Flyk and everything is terrible!

David Freitag

@AviD It was a reference nobody in here got. $300 worth of PCBs are now useless pieces of fiberglass coated in copper and lightly flashed with gold.

Flyk

19 mins ago, by raz

0

Q: Are web scrapers fooled by obscured emails anymore?

It's a common practice online that instead of writing your email as [email protected] people will instead write it as someone AT email.com in an attempt to make it harder for web scrapers to find your email address on a web site. Is this even that effective anymore? I would imagine anyone scrapi...

email

@raz :P

AviD

@Flyk oh, didnt know that was the one

@DavidFreitag those actually sounds like awesome coasters.

should really consider reselling them. Could probably upprice it, if you brand it right

David Freitag

@AviD They are really awesome, but they shouldn't be coasters.

Flyk

20:46

futuristic coasters

AviD

naah too many words for me

Flyk

I'll buy 10

AviD

@Flyk @DavidFreitag see? at 35$ each, you've already made a profit.

Ohnana

@Flyk 0/10 work in IT

AviD

even if you consider shipping

Ohnana

20:47

better?

David Freitag

I should also mention they are massive coasters. 5.5"x7"

Flyk

35$ for a coaster is a little excessive

David Freitag

@AviD There are only 5 of them.

Flyk

@Ohnana no that's cool, I don't work in IT so I'm allowed to get things wrong

@DavidFreitag that's fine, I can cut them up and re-resell them

AviD

@DavidFreitag go make some more real quick, orders are streaming in

@Flyk too late, you've already committed to 10

Flyk

20:50

@DavidFreitag also, 7 inches isn't massive

David Freitag

@Flyk It is for a coaster.

@Flyk also, in comparison it seems like it

Flyk

really? starbait denied?

what the f-

it's cool, I will cut them up into smaller coasters

Rory Alsop

Flyk

and then sell those coasters

Rory Alsop

My youngest has a homework assignment

I just about spilt my gin

Flyk

20:52

fucher

hey at least she remembered the U in watercolourist

Rory Alsop

@Flyk yeah, my 8 year old can spell watercolourist, but not Charles or meets or future

Flyk

or margaret

raz

@RoryAlsop She lives in the present

Flyk

or worked

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Funny, you could have said @Simon wrote you a letter and everyone would have believed you.

Flyk

20:53

@DavidFreitag true story

Rory Alsop

Anyone want 150 free heavy metal tracks? Relapse Records are offering a free download (or donate whatever you want)

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raz

@DavidFreitag @Lighty

David Freitag

@raz No, that would be a wad of boogers and pocket lint stuck to a piece of paper.

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag hahahaha

raz

lol

AviD

20:55

@DavidFreitag poetry

David Freitag

I wonder if I get to tell the CEO that we wasted $500 and the last three weeks

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag oh dear - that's not pleasant :-(

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop The worst part is that the issue is a row of pads that is 0.3mm off

Flyk

let me do it, and then when he kicks off I can just buy his company and then gross misconduct him out of the door for being willing to sell said company to somebody who is just going to burn it down with all of the employees inside

@RoryAlsop one day she will realize that you uploaded this to an internet chat room and then sat by and watched while people picked fault with it

AviD

@DavidFreitag oh please. if he's like most CEO's, he probably spent more than that on lunch.

Rory Alsop

21:01

@Flyk and she'll probably have much worse to upload about me :-)

David Freitag

@AviD It's not about the money, it's about the wasted time (which is also quite a lot of money...)

Flyk

oooOOOOoooo

Lucas 'Paul' Kauffman

@DavidFreitag he'll probably reply to you that you just costed him way more by talking about it

AviD

not to mention how much time he wastes in here

Flyk

what is it with me and electronics this week, I just answered my phone because it was ringing and it just reset itself

David Freitag

21:02

@AviD What can I say, the compiler is slow.

AviD

@Flyk you... answered..... a phone???

Flyk

@AviD of course

if I didn't answer the phone, people would struggle to book me

AviD

21:16

why cant they just email you

dont need to call on the phone

like an animal

Flyk

I duno, most promoters are hardly the most computer savvy people in the world

AviD

"email"

"most computer savvy"

I've had truckers manage email

Flyk

you've had truckers.

but that's another story

AviD

heh

Flyk

it's probably around 50/50 between email and phone, but I am notoriously bad at email (actually checking that I've received email) and even worse for dismissing notifications of email on my phone

and definitely have a memory that resembles a sieve when it comes to remembering things I have to do

far too easily distracted

after mentioning andy dufresne earlier, I want to watch shawshank

@Simon you are a man made from scat?

gross.

holy fucking shit I just googled WHY WHAT DID YOU EVEN THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN

David Freitag

21:22

Awesome, my boss didn't shove me under the bus and run.

Flyk

I've got to get out of the habit of googling

AviD

@Flyk good idea. You should switch to Bing.

Flyk

erm

no I prefer to give all of my browsing habits to the same company

David Freitag

21:48

Awesome, finally got this stupid I2C driver working

Flyk

unfortunately, there's only me to tell about it

and I don't know what you're talking about

David Freitag

I presume you also don't much care. But it's exciting for me nonetheless. :]

Flyk

that's not true, I know what it feels like to finally succeed at something that has been eluding you

have an internet hug

I'd make a bigger deal about it but @Simon thinks internet hugs are stupid

Don't be a @Simon.

David Freitag

Internet hugs aren't stupid

Flyk

well, in that case

@DavidFreitag yay \o/ hug

David Freitag

21:52

What a rollercoaster ride today has been.

Flyk

I know, you woke up, which is always a bad start

and then you went to work(!)

failed at your job for a few hours

and then experienced a major success

then you got an internet hug from somebody you've never seen before

basically the highlight

David Freitag

Major is pushing it a bit, but it was the culmination of the past two weeks worth of tinkering.

Flyk

well I'd rather overestimate the significance than underestimate it

David Freitag

@Flyk Seeing someone is overrated. It gets in the way of getting to know someone.

Flyk

glass-is-the-wrong-size-for-its-content and all that

@DavidFreitag WOOOOOOOOOOAH

you can't come out with something deep and meaningful like that in here...

David Freitag

21:55

Well it's true

Flyk

I know it's true, but still, there be trolls in here

a part of my soul dies every time I arrive at the mastering stage

David Freitag

This is the internet, if trolls were ever a problem I would've suicided by now.

Flyk

and have to destroy all of my beautiful dynamics to make it as loud as everybody else

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@Flyk What's more, they're all Scottish. So the factorory is clearly located in Scotland.

Flyk

clearly

David Freitag

22:00

@Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ Well it's certainly not in New Jersey.

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

Ok I have an opinion to seek of the room. Truecrypt. Does it need an open source replacement?

Flyk

why are you asking?

what do you stand to gain?

are you secretly making an opensource disk encryption software and only just decided to check if there is a market?

why do you care?

do you work for the NSA?

David Freitag

what is the meaning of life, everything, and the universe?

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@Flyk I can write disk drivers. I can probably re-write the truecrypt bootloader in something other than msvc 1.52 because I know how the macro assembler that ships with msvc works. I know enough about crypto not to do anything stupid. and I need some inspiration.

@Flyk Not American, so no, sorry

British, not non-resident and therefore not eligible for security clearance for the next 10 years.

Simon

pls all I'm at home now, pls contact me tomorrow.

ty and pls

Flyk

22:05

@Simon no

I've decided that I want to chat with you right now @Simon

and your choice is

do you talk to your imaginary donut or do you talk to me, @Simon?

@Simon !

Simon

soz I'd rather do music production

Flyk

srsly @Simon don't ignore me

music production lol

sorry, I meant, "cool"

Simon

And yeah we're discussing about our budget to buy a house, soz.

Flyk

you're having a discussion while making music?

you're doing both of those things wrong

Simon

NO

WE JUST HAD IT

IT'S P MUCH DONE NOW

Flyk

22:07

"I am finished conversing with you, leave me alone to produce mad beatz"

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@Flyk No, but I considered doing it briefly. But I figured I'd see what people's view was before diving in - if everyone said meh, I use bitlocker then I won't bother.

Flyk

meh, I use bitlocker

only Microsoft can decrypt my disks

oh, and the NSA

David Freitag

Sadface no one can tell me the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@DavidFreitag The answer is 42. What's the question?

Flyk

@DavidFreitag "How many roads must a man walk down?"

Douglas Adams was clearly sexist

David Freitag

22:09

@Flyk Dammit I was just typing that

Flyk

even if Trillian is possibly my favorite fictional female ever

and the point of view gun

in fact, he can't be sexist

no sexist could come up with the point of view gun

David Freitag

Marvin is pretty great

Flyk

maybe Douglas Adams was secretly female :o

that would explain a lot

David Freitag

@Simon you should listen to that mix I linked to you earlier, it's still fantastic!

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@Flyk So that's a don't bother then :)

Flyk

22:17

@Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ you should pretty much never take my advice in here when talking about anything security related

I write down my passwords on post it notes

(I don't really)

David Freitag

@Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ If you are willing to take a sample size of one non-expert to influence you...

Flyk

as my profile says... "I am woefully under-qualified to answer content here - I exist only to provoke Simon."

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

hehe

Simon

@DavidFreitag Link it back tomorrow pls

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

Ok imma think about it for a bit

David Freitag

22:23

You should probably try pinging the bear, avid, iszi, the rories, etc, and get their opinion.

Flyk

@Simon are you busy?

I hope I'm not interrupting you @Simon

@Simon NI Massive.

Rory Alsop

22:49

@Flyk - yes Trillian! But which TV/movie version?

Oh, what opinion @Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ?

Flyk

obv zooey deschanel

Rory Alsop

_I only hit send once!

Flyk

I feel a bit of déjà vu

RANDOM CAPS

David Freitag

My Nexus 9 arrived! Time to go get it :D

Flyk

@DavidFreitag oh did the delivery person only get half way and then give up?

David Freitag

22:55

@Flyk It was delivered to my house, I'm at work.

Flyk

right, work

David Freitag

Although I wouldn't blame a UPS driver for looking at my driveway and going, "AWWW HEEEEEEEEL NAH"

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