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2:01 PM
@Robusto Disbelieve.
 
Obviously 'shopped. But it ain't far off.
The street sign on my corner is buried under a mountain of snow.
 
@MattE.Эллен Consider poor @snailboat!
@Robusto Tell the plows to stop dumping on it.
 
I don't argue with angry snowplows.
 
summons Topper
See, I do have roads like that, so I know what their edges look like.
 
OK, you topped my joke picture. Happy now?
 
2:06 PM
No, because you haven’t smiled yet.
Today is Tuesday. Rejoice!
 
joices
does it again
 
@Robuto You don’t own a snowplow, right?
I think your signage problem is because your muni doesn’t own any either.
A proper snow plow would never bury a street sign. Well, if it could find it.
 
@tchrist I got nothing to smile about.
 
@tchrist Why would I own a snowplow? I have a snowblower.
 
2:11 PM
That's a real snow plow. Turn down the brightness on your monitor if needed: it is actually BLOWING the snow like a fountain. There is no place to put it otherwise.
 
Mine does that too, on a smaller scale.
So mejor is both better and best? If so, how does one tell the difference?
 
Usually with a definite article. Can you give me a pair of examples?
¿Cuál es mejor? = Which is better?
¿Cuál es el mejor? = Which is best?
 
OK, I get it.
> You can now read 66.6% of all real Spanish text.
 
Ricardo Montalbahn es lo mejor del mundo.
 
Yo no hago el mejor del mundo, pero cuándo yo hago yo Ricardo Montalbahn
 
2:16 PM
Yo gasto mucho . . . when I said "I spend much" the software marked me wrong, saying the correct translationi is "I spend too much." I'd like to know how to tell the difference.
@MattE.Эллен fun fun fun on the montalbahn
 
Rio, rio.
 
@KitZ.Fox Wait, that’s the wrong article. You actually need lo there, not el, because you’re nominalizing an adjective. It’s weird, I know.
@KitZ.Fox I know that song.
 
@tchrist I was thinking of French.
 
@KitZ.Fox Right, friendly French doesn’t have neuter articles or demonstratives like Spanish does.
 
So if you watched the news last night, you were regaled with a tale of my hometown.
 
2:19 PM
@Robusto Gasto mucho just means “I spend a lot”. Gasto demasiado means “I spend too much”. Yo gasto mucho means "Me, I spend a lot."
 
@tchrist Then the software was wrong and I was right. Stupid software.
 
@Robusto In my professional opinion, your analysis is correct.
 
Caso demasiado.
 
@KitZ.Fox ¡De veras? ¿Cuántas veces te has casado con alguién?
 
Uno. (Una?)
 
2:22 PM
Ou bien, combien de fois as-tu marié quelqu’un?
Sí: une fois => una vez.
You can usually count on cognates having the same gender. Not always, but usually.
 
Je ne me souviens pas comment dire "once", mais maintenant...
Et puis, je te blague.
 
Une fois, n’est-ce pas?
 
Ouais, seulement une fois. Solamente una vez.
 
It’s like French: make the adjective feminine before adding -mente: solamente. It’s because mente/ment is from Latin mens for mind, which is feminine.
 
Huh. I thought my pronunciation was wrong.
 
2:26 PM
This is what I meant when I was pointing out why picking up Romance language N+1 is much easier than picking up RL 1.
 
Wow, that was tres forte for a joke.
 
Do you swear like a québecoise, too?
 
bien sur
tabernac
 
Aye.
 
My apologies, I don't remember my alt-codes for making proper French.
 
2:27 PM
Are you on Windows not Mac or Linux?
 
Yes.
 
They make it really hard in the default setup.
There's a way to make it as easy as Mac or Unix, let me find it.
 
on windows, change to the extended keyboard and use alt gr
 
I can do it, I just don't do it all the time, so I only remember a couple and my cheat sheet is at work.
 
e.g. alt gr + a -> á
 
2:28 PM
what's "gr"?
 
` then a -> à
 
Hm. How do you distinguish à á ä â ã?
@KitZ.Fox Might be right-alt?
 
alt gr + 6 then a -> â
 
Mac is alt + accent mark + letter.
 
If I use the extended, quotes become a huge pain in the ass.
 
2:30 PM
Well, what I said isn't true but for the `.
@KitZ.Fox Oh, is that why my boss keeps writing silly things like I´m?
 
@tchrist Could be.
 
He puts it in extended mode so that he can type Spanish, but then his English looks silly.
 
the English UK extended mode is shorter than the US extended mode for some reason
 
And speaking of typing, I ought to work, I suppose. Maybe shower first, then work.
I have wasted a whole morning on chasing rabbits.
Speaking of "I have wasted my life", I attended a writing workshop this weekend.
 
2:32 PM
no nutrition in rabbits
 
@MattE.Эллен Not in chasing them anyway.
 
Which reminds me, I have a device that I have to interact with that I can only use Windows on because the manufukturer won’t issue anything with Mac support. That means I need to get them to install a Windows VM on my Mac, then pray. If that fails, they’ll have to ship me a loaner Windows laptop. Ug.
 
@KitZ.Fox learn how to get a book published?
 
@MattE.Эллен QI
 
2:33 PM
@tchrist Prey? or Pray?
 
that's probably where I heard it, yes
 
Or is that the UK spelling?
 
I don’t ever use UK spellings for anything. I use only tchrist spellings. The English often take after me, though.
 
@MattE.Эллен No, learned how annoying and pretentious writers can be.
 
@tchrist No sé qué pensar.
 
2:34 PM
@tchrist Hahaha
 
@Robusto Much better!
 
@KitZ.Fox ah
 
But that reminds me that I was going to post the last thing I wrote, which garnered spontaneous, unanimous applause from the rest of the class.
 
Tengo que decir, tengo que ducharme, me tengo que duchar, tengo que irme, me tengo que ir. You can and often do promote the reflexive from the infinitive complement up to the head of the NP.
 
2:36 PM
It was a workshop on free-writing. Mostly that means "listen to me talk about boring stuff and drop quotes from famous authors at you."
Apparently.
We only did five free writes in eight hours.
Seriously. Lame.
But the women were SO MUCH FUN!
So that totally made up for it.
 
I’ve heard that before.
Eran muy graciosas, las tías.
 
"I want your money <insert writer quote> so I will spend this time bulding your confidence <insert writer quote> by making you feel good about what you're doing now. <insert anecdote><insert writer quote> You won't learn anything."
 
Although that's more pleasant and charming in a lighthearted and delightful way.
 
@KitZ.Fox yay!
 
@MattE.Эллен Actually, there was a lot more of trying to convince us all that we didn't know how to write, so we should invite him back for the extended version.
 
2:39 PM
This kitzenfuchsen thing conflouts me.
 
Despite having no evidence in any way.
 
Hi @KitZ.Fox, I just ate dinner.
 
@KitZ.Fox ah! the boot camp method :D
 
Hi @ABeautifulMind.
 
yesterday, by Robusto
Let there be light! Starting on Tuesday the sun will transit more longitudinally than latitudinally, letting the days grow longer faster until the vernal equinox, when they will start to subside, reaching stasis again on the solstice. But the outlook is brighter and brighter, however much snow may be oppressing us just now.
 
2:41 PM
@MattE.Эллен "None of you is published seven times like me, so you all must write self-indulgent ramblings that no one would ever be interested in, you dumb narcissists."
 
@KitZ.Fox was your applause at the end of the session? I bet the instructor loved that. You'd learned! ;)
 
He hated me in particular, due to my charisma.
 
:D
he'll lose you but everyone else will come back to try to be like you
 
He hated you because he did not have your boobs.
 
At least it was obvious that he knew I was doing it better than him.
 
2:43 PM
That means your charisma is 13–15, maybe 16. If it were 17–18, you’d’ve had ’em eatin’ outta your hand.
 
@ABeautifulMind Maybe, but realistically I think he disliked that I connected with the group better than he did. That had nothing to do with my boobs, except in maybe two cases.
@tchrist True dat.
 
What happened with the design volte-face @$job?
 
I chose to invest my energy in getting the group to respond to me, rather than him. He would have been easy; just praise his ego.
 
@tchrist Still managing. Every time I turn around, he's thrown me under another bus.
Well, tries to.
 
2:45 PM
@KitZ.Fox cunning. undermine him and set up your own classes!
 
@MattE.Эллен I was actually considering that very thing on my way back home.
 
Guys, do you think robotics will be the biggest sector in the world economy? If so ,when is it going to be?
 
I could certainly do better than he did, and $1200 is no small chunk of change for a Saturday of work.
@EnglishMaster No. So never.
 
$150 an hour
 
2:47 PM
@KitZ.Fox Why not?
 
@EnglishMaster Why would it be?
 
I just have strong feeling about it, that's all.
 
When are people going to need robotics more than toilet paper and other sundries?
Or food, for that matter?
Not to mention beer, cigarettes, drugs, and other entertainments.
 
when they make toilet paper from nanobots. but you'd only need one sheet ever and they'd be powered by dirt
 
Hmm.
OK. So maybe then.
 
2:48 PM
lol
 
@MattE.Эллен é̀ è́ ề́ ễ̀́ ȩ̂̃̀́
 
@tchrist my extended keyboard can do none of those
 
We can collapse our potential enemy, China, by replacing all their hard labour workers with robots.
So they will lose their economy power
 
"Our"?
 
2:49 PM
@MattE.Эллен perl -CS -E 'say "e\N{COMBINING CEDILLA}\N{COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT}\N{COMBINING TILDE}\N{COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT}\N{COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT}"'
 
Of course, you’d best have a UTF-8 Terminal.
@KitZ.Fox That’s one of those queer first-person-plurals that may or may not include the person addressed.
 
@tchrist hmm. it doesn't quite work in ubuntu. I only get the circumflex and cedilla
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: A more politically correct term for “Rep-Whores” by KyleMit on english.stackexchange.com
 
ȩ̂̃̀́
oh
 
2:51 PM
You did so get them all!
 
it just didn't show them
 
Naughty Linux!
 
@tchrist Indeed.
OK. I was doing something...
 
‭◌ ̀  0300	COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT
‭◌ ́  0301	COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT
‭◌ ̂  0302	COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
‭◌ ̃  0303	COMBINING TILDE
‭◌ ̄  0304	COMBINING MACRON
‭◌ ̅  0305	COMBINING OVERLINE
‭◌ ̆  0306	COMBINING BREVE
‭◌ ̇  0307	COMBINING DOT ABOVE
‭◌ ̈  0308	COMBINING DIAERESIS
‭◌ ̉  0309	COMBINING HOOK ABOVE
‭◌ ̊  030A	COMBINING RING ABOVE
‭◌ ̋  030B	COMBINING DOUBLE ACUTE ACCENT
‭◌ ̌  030C	COMBINING CARON
‭◌ ̍  030D	COMBINING VERTICAL LINE ABOVE
‭◌ ̎  030E	COMBINING DOUBLE VERTICAL LINE ABOVE
 
He died of acute accents and took them to his grave.
 
2:55 PM
That sure looks like crap here.
‭◌̀  0300	COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT
‭◌́  0301	COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT
‭◌̂  0302	COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
‭◌̃  0303	COMBINING TILDE
‭◌̄  0304	COMBINING MACRON
‭◌̅  0305	COMBINING OVERLINE
‭◌̆  0306	COMBINING BREVE
‭◌̇  0307	COMBINING DOT ABOVE
‭◌̈  0308	COMBINING DIAERESIS
‭◌̉  0309	COMBINING HOOK ABOVE
‭◌̊  030A	COMBINING RING ABOVE
‭◌̋  030B	COMBINING DOUBLE ACUTE ACCENT
‭◌̌  030C	COMBINING CARON
‭◌̍  030D	COMBINING VERTICAL LINE ABOVE
‭◌̎  030E	COMBINING DOUBLE VERTICAL LINE ABOVE
‭◌̏  030F	COMBINING DOUBLE GRAVE ACCENT
Not much better.
Maybe a little.
 
I guess each grapheme is printed below the one before, and is rectangular in shape, with some pixels the same colour as the background
 
‭◌ ̀  0300	COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT

‭◌ ́  0301	COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT

‭◌ ̂  0302	COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT

‭◌ ̃  0303	COMBINING TILDE

‭◌ ̄  0304	COMBINING MACRON

‭◌ ̅  0305	COMBINING OVERLINE

‭◌ ̆  0306	COMBINING BREVE

‭◌ ̇  0307	COMBINING DOT ABOVE

‭◌ ̈  0308	COMBINING DIAERESIS

‭◌ ̉  0309	COMBINING HOOK ABOVE

‭◌ ̊  030A	COMBINING RING ABOVE

‭◌ ̋  030B	COMBINING DOUBLE ACUTE ACCENT

‭◌ ̌  030C	COMBINING CARON

‭◌ ̍  030D	COMBINING VERTICAL LINE ABOVE

‭◌ ̎  030E	COMBINING DOUBLE VERTICAL LINE ABOVE
Missed again. Give up.
Bye.
 
3:14 PM
@tchrist Bye!
Now on to the topic of tea.
Namely, how will I procure oolong tea without having to actually leave my house to do so?
 
@MattE.Эллен Is that what it looked like? I got this:
 
@terdon in chat or in the terminal?
 
@MattE.Эллен Terminal
ȩ̂̃̀́
Ah, I see. In chat it looks OK. So it's our terminal's fault.
 
Looks weird to me in either case.
 
Yeah, and that's not a circumflex.
Ah, it might be if they're overlaid.
 
3:29 PM
@KitZ.Fox You can order online.
 
Guys, if you are suppose to divorce your partner, but you don't want your money and properties split in half, what would you do to prevent it?

1) Lock your partner in an mental asylum and date a hot-chick in the meantime.
2) apologize sincerely to your partner about everything happened before. And have a good sex to forget everything.
3) Just kill her/him
 
@terdon That's why they call it a terminal. Because it's the last place you want to be.
 
@EnglishMaster Very silly question.
 
@ABeautifulMind Well, I could, but then how will I drink it now?
 
@KitZ.Fox Hmm, then you cannot drink it now. There can be no miracle for this matter.
 
3:32 PM
Except I found some more in the back of the cupboard.
 
Well, there can be miracles when you believe.
 
@EnglishMaster How about d) Grow up and suck up the consequences of your choices.
3
 
I have believed for a very long time, but still I see no miracles.
I am very very tired.
 
I have not believed for a very long time, and I see the same lack of miracles.
I don't believe in miracles.
But miracles are completely unnecessary.
So it doesn't make me feel tired.
 
OK. Will you reply to my email? It's not necessary, but it would be nice to hear something from you.
 
3:37 PM
OK. I will.
And here, you can read this boring blog post in the meantime.
 
I think we have different definitions of miracle.
 
I think you are right.
 
I think we have talked about the different definitions 9000 times in this chat.
 
user136984
 
HAHA! SO CLASSIC!
BLONDE JOKE! SO FUNNY!
 
3:40 PM
Not actually a blonde joke.
 
Then what is it?
 
She's a beauty queen.
It has nothing to do with her hair color.
 
Ok Sorry, but she's still blonde.
 
Her life revolves around looking attractive, not being smart.
@EnglishMaster Yes. She's also wearing a pink dress.
 
hmm, that sounds quite logical.
 
3:42 PM
So really the joke is about how she's making lots of money off of rich old white men by looking pretty and being dumb.
That's why I laughed anyway.
 
Right
 
@terdon I only get the circumfloex on top, the other two things are hidden behind it. if I don't ask for the circumflex, I get the tilde and a dot above the tidle, which I assume is the accent.
oh! I see!
it's actually stacking
 
@KitZ.Fox Who is the greater fool...
 
@MattE.Эллен Yes. That's pretty neat!
 
3:46 PM
How do you call a hat looks like this but one that soldiers put on? (Special Forces put them on when they are on operation)
 
@EnglishMaster There is no hat that looks like that which is also worn by soldiers.
@MattE.Эллен That's bizarre.
 
I'm serious, soldiers have a hat looks like that
 
@KitZ.Fox I think it's the desired behaviour, too :D
 
@EnglishMaster You might be thinking of a campaign hat or a ranger hat, but they don't look that stupid.
 
3:48 PM
I was talking about this
 
Right. That looks different than the hippie hat you posted.
 
looks more like a fishing hat
 
I don't think it is called "camping hat" because no soldier go for a camping while they are in military
It's possibly "sniper hat" but I'm not sure.
 
not only have you misread but you are wrong
 
ranger hat.
 
3:50 PM
what else do you call it when you sleep outside in a tent?
 
Yes, soldiers camp.
A campaign hat is stiffer though.
Ranger hat is floppy.
 
OH I FOUND IT
It's called "bucket hat"
 
It's called a semibra, covering only one boob, lol.
 
semibra? sounds exciting
By the way, I have found the real answer. It's called "Boonie hat"
 
Get two semibras to cover both, lol.
 
3:56 PM
It is usual and customary for random people to start following you on Twitter?
 
@KitZ.Fox I've got a few. like a couple of recruiters
 
If you don't like it, don't use twitter.
 
I'm just not sure how flattered/creeped out to be by it.
 
Do women usually feel creeped out by such things? I find it harmless.
 
3:58 PM
I don't know if women in particular do. Generally random people being interested in your life is kind of creepy.
 
OK. I would be very happy if people start following me.
 
Like if some new person popped in and started asking us what we ate for breakfast and what color socks we liked best.
@ABeautifulMind Do you have a Twitter account?
 
I think dangerous people usually do not use such methods to attack victims.
@KitZ.Fox No. I have almost no online accounts.
 
Well, it will be hard to follow you then.
 
I have no facebook or twitter or blog.
 
4:00 PM
Meeting time. later.
 
@MattE.Эллен Would you also reply to my email? I think I would feel better if you said something.
 
Now that I show up, all the cool people leave. Hey @MattE.Эллен!
Zing!
 
I'd already left
 
4:15 PM
I left as soon as I saw him but came back when he didn't notice :(
Apparently, I'm not even cool enough to be uncool.
 
@terdon That's so cool!
It's a zen thing.
 
Zing zen?
 
:D
 
Vat iz zis zing zen?
 
Ouch!
 
"his own finger" being the boy's? or gutei's? why didn't the boy cut off Gutei's finger?
 
He had already cut off the boy's finger. He still had his own.
Basically "Nyaah, nyaah, I have a finger and you don't. In your face!"
 
Wow. Hard core.
What an asshole.
 
I know!
 
4:32 PM
@KitZ.Fox The meeting is over?
 
Finger or enlightenment? I'm enlightened enough to see that I want to keep my finger, and screw your enlightenment.
 
@ABeautifulMind Yes.
 
the boy didn't have a choice. he was just having fun, but the teacher took his finger without asking
 
@Mitch This is probably a fake story.
@infinitesimal Did you once make a prediction that I would solve my mental problems at 36?
 
@MattE.Эллен The boy was being impudent and he was lucky his reprimand was only that.
@ABeautifulMind What if there are pictures?
 
4:37 PM
@ABeautifulMind no
i don't do predictions on stuff like that
 
@Mitch Fake pictures.
 
@MattE.Эллен So it'd be OK if the kid said "Sure, go ahead and take my finger." ?
 
@Mitch no. the teach should not stike out like that. it is not right to remove a finger
 
@ABeautifulMind What if there are real pictures (not doctored/photoshopped) of a setup trick to make it look like the kid chopped off his own finger?
 
@Mitch I don't know, if he actually got enlightenment, sure.
 
4:40 PM
@Mitch I don't know.
 
@MattE.Эллен Wow, what unrealistically forward thinking century do you live in? 19th? 20th???
 
@Mitch I live a dreamland where people are nice to each other
 
@MattE.Эллен You know what happens when you reach enlightenment don't you?
 
@Mitch he gets to sleep
 
You stick around the monastery for a few decades more doing pretty much the same old stuff.
@MattE.Эллен Crazy, man.
@MattE.Эллен too many sleepless nights. starts judging each finger for utility
 
4:42 PM
@Mitch but you feel enlightened, so it's easier
 
OK left pinkie...you're up.
 
If life is a dream, then I hope to wake up from the nightmare I am in which has been too long.
I think I will watch the John Nash documentary again.
 
I think I will commute
 
[The great Taoist master Chuang Tzu once dreamt that he was a butterfly fluttering here and there. In the dream he had no awareness of his individuality as a person. He was only a butterfly. Suddenly, he awoke and found himself laying there, a person once again. But then he thought to himself, "Was I before a man who dreamt about being a butterfly, or am I now a butterfly who dreams about being a man?" ](users.rider.edu/~suler/zenstory/dreaming.html)
 
later
 
4:46 PM
I just stepped on a butterfly
Shit
 
there is a butterfly trapped in a spider's web...
 
@infinitesimal I think once when I said that I went mad at 18, you casually said that I would be well at 36.
 
The spider, never leaving its own web, is itself trapped.
 
@ABeautifulMind Not me.
 
Mindsplode.
 
4:48 PM
10 mins ago, by infinitesimal
i don't do predictions on stuff like that
mental illness is far too serious for me
I have been exposed to the very real and fatal kind
 
@infinitesimal wait...is that from the Police?
 
@Mitch yes, King of Pain
sometimes this song chokes me up :(
people with mental illness not only hurt themselves
and once they die they hurt the ones who loved them
 
My cousin, high school classmate and middle school choir mate all committed suicide.
I don't exactly know what happened, but one of them had severe OCD.
 
suicide takes their pain away
but those left behind is what I'm talking about
 
I don't think life ends at death.
 
4:59 PM
"life"
 
I still believe in rebirth.
Do you mean your children?
 
enough said
 
(removed)
 
(r(e(m(o)v)e)d)
 
@infinitesimal Have you watched the Nash docu?
 
5:04 PM
yes
 
It gives me hope, to some extent.
 
the drugs have made his speech hard to understand...
 
He stopped them long ago right?
 
I took some thorazine as well.
It felt as if my body was not mine.
 
5:07 PM
that doesn't sound good
 
I might go back to meds and therapy this year, I will decide for myself.
 
try a different therapist
 
Yeah, I have a few in this chat too. =)
 
or even a different type of therapy
 
Yeah. My problems are multifaceted.
I don't have much time left. I must enter grad school by 40. If not, I won't go.
 
5:10 PM
only you would know, my friend
 
I have 6 years to make it there. I will make good use of the time.
 
start skimming over your 12 books
 
5:40 PM
@Robusto I'm a judge, that's who.
 
@Robusto If you are ever using Wiktionary for Spanish conjugations, you want to use the ES not the EN version so that you see the irregularities in bold. The ES version is also better organized and makes more sense. Compare the ES saber conjugation to the EN version of the same for a demo of what I mean.
 
When I say "I think you're an ass", it gets written down in a book, literally, and literally literally, but case law will immediately excise the "I think" interpreting it to mean that the SWAT team will be dispatched to your residence. If you invite them in for tea, they will refuse. Because that's how disciplined our judicial and law enforcement systems are. I inform you of these details out of duty, because I'm a judge.
Now that I think of it though, maybe baby slugs are a little cute.
 
6:03 PM
CAPS LOCK SOLVES SO MANY COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE DON'T USE IT MORE.
 
SO DOES BOLDFACE ITALICS
@Mitch only to their mothers :-)
 
Baby slugs are assholes. But they're media darlings, so you never hear the full story.
 
@Robusto I found that surprisingly readable. What are you trying to say though?
@infinitesimal CYOOOT!
So adorable you could eat 'im.
oops.
 
6:10 PM
:D
 
@Mitch I'm trying to say "CAPS LOCK SOLVES SO MANY COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE DON'T USE IT MORE."
 
I just had a coffee. The water in the flask remained warm even after almost 24 hours.
 
6:32 PM
@KitZ.Fox How is your bronchitis now?
 
@Robusto With quotes, that really does make a lot more sense. I'm sensing surprise, something to do with locking. I'm surprised too at pop-locking. But it just doesn't mesh with my preconceived notions of crunk.
@ABeautifulMind Thermos is magic. I'm always surprised that it works.
 

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