Root Access

Journeyman Geek

12:11 AM

@Bob: I almost made a MH17 joke. Too soon?

and damnit.

accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/… I want one of these ;p

Bob

2:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek -_-

Journeyman Geek

2:39 AM

hm. drug rehab spam 0_0

DragonLord

3:41 AM

@JourneymanGeek About to go, but how do you find this much spam? Mod tools?

DragonLord

3:53 AM

Just caught a spammer ring.

DownloadAVideo.net and Screenshot.net

APowerSoft.com is related to this.

Five users caught.

More.

apowersoft.com, screenshot.net, downloadavideo.net. 33 flags, 8 users, three major domains. BUSTED.

The longest spam flagging spree I've ever gone on.

Gotta go, ping me with any feedback.

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: 'new answers' 'late answers'

DragonLord

4:08 AM

I happened to find this in the 10k new answers to old questions queue.

One errant post uncovered a massive spammer ring.

Must have been scary to see 33 flags in the mod queue.

Journeyman Geek

I haven't looked yet XD, at work ;p

random

You could just flag one post per spam account, and then add a follow up flag to "check out their other answers", though the mods usually do that anyway. No need to spam flag each and every one of them. Certainly don't need to bump those spam answers that would have been silently wiped

DragonLord

A while back, nhinkle was freaked out seeing 20 spam flags a while back:

in Ask a Super User Moderator, Jan 7 at 2:29, by nhinkle

Good lord, that was an assload of spam flags.

See ya.

Bob

5:35 AM

de.ioccc.org/years-spoiler.html#1994_smr

> smr - world's smallest self reproducing program

XD

> Errors may be worth fewer points if they are processor or OS dependent, but only if we have to scavenge a system to test your bug. If your bug works specifically under GNU/Linux, don’t worry about it. If it works specifically under x86, no problem. If it only works on BeOS R5 on a dual G3 box when all four MIDI ports are active, then no.

Bob

5:50 AM

> Because you are you, you are not copied onto you, even though you in the queue are not you but the you in the queue, which means that you.scratch (initially 0) is never changed.

XKCD

6:24 AM

ACCESS LIMITS: Clients may maintain connections to the server for no more than 86,400 seconds per day. If you need additional time, you may contact IERS to file a request for up to one additional second.

Journeyman Geek

7:53 AM

whoot. Just about the finish the last of the new systems we need to defenestrate.

(They come with windows, we replaced the OS with linux)

Journeyman Geek

8:53 AM

Aside from being a hardware rec...

whut?
http://superuser.com/questions/872563/what-are-safe-yet-powerful-alternatives-to-intel-amd-cpus

Bob

9:11 AM

@JourneymanGeek So is that the guy propping up the tinfoil businesses?

There are far more effective and efficient ways to compromise arbitrary systems.

Journeyman Geek

9:47 AM

Pretty much. And his 'reasons' involve crypto standards being weakened and freebsd saying "We don't just want to trust one specific hardware rng"

Sabre Tooth

be scared for I have arrived

Journeyman Geek

sorry, we're currently scared off rogue microcode upgrades. Please come again later ;p

Sabre Tooth

not the microcode updates!

and poltergeists superuser.com/questions/872572/…

Journeyman Geek

Oh, that's probably capasitor whine.

You need to ~~be a dog~~ have good high frequency hearing to hear that.

Sabre Tooth

yes, whining about too many damned poltergeists!

;)

maybe mini-zombies

Journeyman Geek

10:30 AM

pretty much ;p

Journeyman Geek

10:42 AM

0_0
raspberry pi 2 news is interesting.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I mean, you could compromise an RNG by returning predictable data (though if it's too predictable it's easy to detect).

But compromising the execution of arbitrary code?

... ... ... you can brick it

that's about it

You can't make arbitrary code actually do what you want.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: The two possible compromises he mentioned had nothing to do with microcode ;p

Bob

Because there's literally no way for a CPU to look at the big picture.

Not unless it solves the halting problem.

@JourneymanGeek That too.

It's complex enough to get it working, let alone optimal... add subtle backdoors that don't break it? If you can do that, hell, why even bother fighting against it?

Journeyman Geek

blog.adafruit.com/2015/02/02/…

@HackToHell ^^

@Bob: precisely.

HackToHell

11:21 AM

@JourneymanGeek Windows 8 already runs on the Edison

Hopefully I'll get 10 too :D

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell how stripped down is windows on Edison?

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek Very

It's for the Galileo not the Edison

And the galileo is way slower than the Edison

It took quite some time to boot

Journeyman Geek

Ahh. Damn it. I corrected myself elsewhere :p

HackToHell

The Galileo board is larger compared to the RasPi

College had two new ones tucked away

Journeyman Geek

11:45 AM

I was thinking of getting an odroid c1 but my raspi does nearly nothing right now

Even backups got moved to my brix

HackToHell

Minimum Broadband Speeds: India = 512 Kbps USA = 25 Mbps (25,000 Kbps) #DigitalIndia @rsprasad

Tweeted by milinddeora on January 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM

Oliver Salzburg

12:47 PM

How do you kill a process and all its children on a Linux system?

HackToHell

1:19 PM

> Visual Studio Community 2013 is a new edition that enables you to unleash the full power of Visual Studio to develop cross-platform solutions. Create apps in one unified IDE for Windows, iOS, and Android. Get Visual Studio extensions that incorporate new languages, features, and development tools into this IDE. Code in C++, Python, HTML5, JavaScript, and of course C#, VB, and F#. Use extensive web tooling for ASP.NET, Node.js, and JavaScript. .

TIL o0

Ooh it uses Apache Cordava

Bob

1:57 PM

@JourneymanGeek dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support

@OliverSalzburg I suppose you aren't looking for shutdown -h now :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob That would slightly too excessive ;D

pkill -P seems to work

kush

Kill all?

Journeyman Geek

so...

I'm looking at getting a 4K monitor in a few months

any idea how I'd work out how powerful a GPU I'd need to power such a beast? ;p

I might stick to gaming on my old monitor temporarily (I doubt my 660 could handle smooth 4K gaming), but could something like a 970 or (@allquixotic ! a R280) do?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek I don't think you have to run the games at the native resolution of the display ;)

Journeyman Geek

2:10 PM

@Bob: they've gotten up to 60 hz. I can actually afford to blow 800 quid on a monitor that would actually last me a few years (and I'll likely pay less than that)

@OliverSalzburg: What's the point then? ;p

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Well, there's more to computing than gaming

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: True, but my current card could probably handle regular 4K

Hell, I think a IB/SB onboard GPU might

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I've personally never really been a fan of excessively high pixel densities :P

If I have to lean in to see individual pixels, then the density is high enough for me.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: ;p

Yeah, There's that

Bob

Heck, my home monitor isn't even IPS.

Journeyman Geek

2:15 PM

3 month rule ;p

Bob

At the moment, considering I'm always looking from the same angle, I see no reason to change it.

Though... the IPS at work is tempting me :P

(OTOH, it's more useful there when showing things to other people)

Journeyman Geek

I've wanted a better monitor for ages, work has SERIOUSLY sweet stuff if you're a artist, and I have slight monitor envy

(granted, they are mostly full HD)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek How much did you say it costs?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: The one I want?

~800 retail

Bob

Ya.

And what model was it?

Oh, found it.

Journeyman Geek

2:18 PM

P2415PQ

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ^ That is so exaggerated.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: probably is ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Probably?

No way is the one on the right merely twice the res (assuming same zoom level) as the left one -_-

It's approx 5 times :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I'm not going by that ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Now I wonder how that's different to the UP2414Q, which is over $900.

DragonLord

2:25 PM

@JourneymanGeek: Any idea why spammer put links on innocent-looking text or on specifically words?

Is it for SEO, or is it to escape reviewers?

Why are legitimate links often included?

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: them trying to be clever?

@Bob: Might be colour caliberation

DragonLord

This is what I almost always see with spam.

Journeyman Geek

(which is funny, work uses ultrasharp and dosen't caliberate them. We use another super pricy brand called eizo for colour critical work)

@DragonLord: the idea being to hide the fact that its spam ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek They claim to be the same in that regard.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: is the ultrasharp 10bit?

ahh no

DragonLord

2:28 PM

Apowersoft is known spam. Legitimate links are provided so that the post looks like it was written by a neutral party. — DragonLord 5 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

100 buck difference can't be the media card reader

Actually probably more. The US price for the p2415Q is ~600USD

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Oh wait, that is probably it :P

Journeyman Geek

Also, I think the ultrasharp is an older model

Bob

@JourneymanGeek UP2414Q is 700 USD.

AUD took a beating the last few months.

Journeyman Geek

the latest ultrasharp is *5*k

@Bob: the price I was looking at for the P2415Q was local

Bob

2:30 PM

@JourneymanGeek No UP2415Q yet.

DragonLord

Spammers work so hard to hide their spam links behind professional-looking posts.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ya, the $900 above is AUD

@JourneymanGeek Oh, make sure your GPU has DisplayPort

DragonLord

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A: How configure my beetel adsl2+ 440txi modem as a wireless access point for a pppoe connection

If I am right you used to have a DSL wire (telephone cable of the standard RJ11) that was plugged/ inserted into a wired/ wireless modem. The wired/ wireless modem was/ wasn't configured to dial/ connect to the Internet. And that is how this system works. One peculiar security feature DSL provid...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Current one does

I'm waiting on work deciding to get rid of workstations before really deciding on what to do, GPUwise.

Bob

O_O

Apparently my SO account is older than my SU one by four months...

And almost as many days visited

...when the heck did I create that

There's no activity going back that far

always thought the SU acc was first :\

DragonLord

2:39 PM

@JourneymanGeek: Do those posts look like they came from someone running a spam script, or are they human-written?

I can't really tell.

Journeyman Geek

The beetel one?

Overenthusiastic.

DragonLord

No, the posts I flagged earlier.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I think the only 'proper' machines I have sans DP are my raspi and my brix.

@DragonLord: Dosen't really matter to me.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek FP?

DP?

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

2:41 PM

Approximately zero of my devices have it :P

Journeyman Geek

fixed

my X220 and my desktop have em

Bob

Work computer has it. Personal desktop, laptop, tablets, etc? Nope.

Just plain HDMI and DVI.

I don't think there's a single DP device (or cable) in this house o.O

Journeyman Geek

I don't have any cables ;p

(and hell, I buy HDMI cables as needed)

Bob

I have a bag of DVI cables.

20+

scavenged from that time setting up a call centre as a high school work experience job :P

(they were using VGA, god knows why)

HDMI... one or two attached to the TV< otherwise none

I suppose I should get a spare sometime

DragonLord

Trying to get away with spam by using a lookalike URL

-1

A: I cannot uninstall deal4me program

Please check the following. Check Add/Remove programs in your Control Panel and remove any unknown programs/toolbars. If pages are opening up each time you start up Chrome, check in Wrench > Settings > On Startup > next to the radio button for Open a specific page or set of pages, click on Set ...

malwaretips.com is legitimate

The linked page above goes to malwaretips.org, which is spam

Journeyman Geek

2:49 PM

lol

DragonLord

Further research traces it to Enigma Software, but no posts point there

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: hehe. I have lots of cables. Mostly the wrong sort

(RCA cables for example. I literally have too many)

Tho...

is pondering ordering a bunch of audio cables off dx. There's a specific type I like they stock, and its cheapish)

DragonLord

Bottom post on this image is the spam post that led me to the spam ring.

BGM

4:34 PM

Hi, all.

I am running Windows 7 x64 on HDD with 20GB RAM. Would it help anything to add a small SDD to put my pagefile on?

My machine has an i5-2500, and I'm looking for a performance boost.

System Explorer says the swap is at 34%

DragonLord

20GB of RAM is a lot, so I wouldn't suggest it. If you want to boost performance, try using that SSD for Intel Smart Response Technology instead.

The SSD will act as a large cache, accelerating most I/O operations and producing a tangible increase in performance.

Note that your motherboard needs to be in RAID mode to do this, and you must enable the RAID driver for this to work.

Jan 17 at 1:06, by DragonLord

To enable the RAID driver, in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorA, set Start to 0x3 to disable the Intel RST AHCI driver; in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorAV, delete the StartOverride key to enable the Intel RST Matrix RAID driver.

Do this immediately before you reboot to BIOS/UEFI settings to change the mode, or you'll get BSODs.

(If you meant 2 GB, you definitely need to add more RAM. In that case, I would upgrade to at least 8 GB of memory.)

BGM

No, I meant 20GB.

I've never heard of Intel Smart Response Technology.

Can I do that to my system that I'm already using?

DragonLord

Are you using Intel Rapid Storage Technology?

BGM

You mean RAID?

No.

DragonLord

If your system supports Intel motherboard RAID, you can do this.

BGM

4:48 PM

I have two internal HDDs with partitions in each. But they are not RAIDed together.

DragonLord

Enabling RAID mode does not mean you have to create RAID volumes, even though it enables this functionality.

BGM

My motherboard is an Asus P8Z77-V LX

DragonLord

Also, make sure you're using the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver, or it won't work.

asus.com/us/Motherboards/P8Z77V_LX

BGM

DragonLord is that something I have to check in BIOS or can I check from within Windows?

DragonLord

intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/sftwr-prod/imsm

Chances are, you're using the stock MSAHCI driver

BGM

4:54 PM

Well, I have a control panel for it...

DragonLord

I'd suggest updating to version 12.9—I've had too much trouble with 13.2.

BGM

Apparently I have version 13.1.0.1058

DragonLord

I'd keep that if you haven't had any trouble.

As a reminder, be sure to change storage drivers immediately before you go to the BIOS/UEFI settings to change the SATA mode.

Jan 17 at 1:06, by DragonLord

To enable the RAID driver, in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorA, set Start to 0x3 to disable the Intel RST AHCI driver; in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorAV, delete the StartOverride key to enable the Intel RST Matrix RAID driver.

BGM

I was just reading where you said that above...

DragonLord

@BGM Does your Intel RST control panel provide options for creating RAID volumes? If so, this is not necessary and you are free to install an SSD and enable Smart Response Technology.

If not, you need to enable RAID mode as above.

BGM

4:58 PM

Well, I just ordered a 128GB SSD from ebay so I can try this out.

I'm looking. I've never done anything with IRST before

I have an option to create a volume

I see this under "optimizing the storage system":

■ Intel® Smart Response Technology
■ Accelerate the storage system: Configure solid-state drive to be used as a non-volatile intelligent caching for a disk or volume present in the storage system.
■ DC cache policies: Configure the DC cache policy to reduce power consumption and increase longevity of the disk.

DragonLord

> Accelerate the storage system: Configure solid-state drive to be used as a non-volatile intelligent caching for a disk or volume present in the storage system.

This is precisely what you want.

BGM

yes

DragonLord

Maximum is 64 GB.

Any extra space will be unused.

BGM

The SSD is only 128GB anyway; I only gave $35 for it.

Have you ever done this before?

DragonLord

When you're setting it up, be sure to have it accelerate the system drive.

BGM

5:02 PM

Right.

DragonLord

I've never done this, I migrated my whole system to an SSD a while back

I have experimented with switching from AHCI to RAID mode and back, though.

BGM

on a live system?

DragonLord

Yes, my main laptop no less.

I have backups, though.

BGM

My workstation is like the master of the whole network. I manage everything from here.

DragonLord

Didn't lose data, just took some trial and error

BGM

5:05 PM

Okay, so when the SSD arrives, I'm going to attach it inside my computer.

Then I'll enable IRST in BIOS/UEFI?

DragonLord

It's already set up.

BGM

Then I'll configure it in IRST in Windows.

DragonLord

You're already in RAID mode.

BGM

oh - good. Actually, I though I remembered it saying I was in RAID mode.

even though I haven't configured any RAID manually.

DragonLord

If you have options to create a RAID volume in the IRST control panel, you are in RAID mode.

BGM

5:06 PM

I suppose it thinks its RAIDing a single HDD.

So if I do this, it will limit my pagefile to 64GB.

DragonLord

Never mind

I'd suggest using the remaining space on the SSD for the pagefile

BGM

Sorry - I forgot that IRST was different than pagefile.

DragonLord

That will free up the cache for data files and should give you optimal performance.

BGM

So I'll make the IRST cache use half the SSD and the other half for pagefile.

DragonLord

I assume you're running virtual machines?

BGM

5:11 PM

yes

And photoshop

and VS

and InDesign

all at the same time

DragonLord

@BGM I'd use the maximum 64GB for IRST and the rest for pagefile.

BGM

I have three monitors and my eyes are cockeyed....

SSD for IRST and pagefile - sounds like fun.

DragonLord

128GB is shown as less on the computer because of the binary/decimal difference.

BGM

Okay, now what do I use for the min/max for the pagefile?

system explorer says swap usage is 37%

DragonLord

On the hard drive: The smallest that would allow Windows to save crash dumps for both minimum and maximum.

On the SSD: 4 GB minimum, fill the volume (probably around 50 GB) for maximum.

BGM

5:14 PM

Currently my pagefile size is set to 25MB; 8520 is in use

and its on C:\pagefile.sys

DragonLord

8520MB out of 25GB.

BGM

37%

DragonLord

128 GB is about 119 GiB (the value shown on the computer).

BGM

Right - I expect Windows to steal some.

DragonLord

Use 64 GB for the SRT cache, 55 GB for the pagefile.

BGM

5:17 PM

okay! This is going to be great! What kind of improvement should I expect?

DragonLord

Create a 64 GB SRT caching volume in the Intel RST control panel first. Then create a partition using the remaining space and set up the pagefile on it.

What kind of SSD is this?

BGM

hold on...

DragonLord

I'm concerned about wearing it out too quickly, so you might want to monitor it using the appropriate tools.

BGM

samsung PM810

DragonLord

That's a good choice.

BGM

5:18 PM

it's used, though

But this is an expiriment anyway - just $37.

DragonLord

It's relatively old and cannot function at SATA 6 Gb/s speeds.

I'd get an SSD 850 PRO instead. Pricy, but far more durable.

BGM

pricy is the catch.

So, can I use that SSD?

that I bought?

for this?

DragonLord

Is $120 okay?

Yes, but keep an eye on the condition of the disk.

BGM

ah; it's a bit much for an experiment.

if the experiment works out, I'll get a better drive.

DragonLord

Samsung Magician won't work because this is an OEM model (equivalent to the Samsung SSD 470)

crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

BGM

5:21 PM

I have Crystal already installed.

DragonLord

Do note that you can edit your chat messages for two minutes after you send them here.

BGM

ah right - I've been in IRC recently.

DragonLord

Yeah, IRC doesn't support that.

BGM

So I would monitor the disk with Crystal. What do I look for?

DragonLord

Have CrystalDiskInfo in the background, it'll alert you if there's a problem

Watch the Health Status readout.

I suspect this was a scrap part from some old computer, erased and resold.

BGM

5:25 PM

yes, I think so.

DragonLord

There's probably a lot of life left on it, but you should monitor the disk especially for heavy workloads of this sort.

BGM

Thanks for all your help.

DragonLord

You don't need to keep the CDI window open all the time, but you might want to check the Total Host Writes field periodically (if provided) to see how much writing the drive is getting.

BGM

If its using IRST AND pagefile, it should get a bunch, no?

DragonLord

Yeah

3000 P/E cycles is what this drive is specced for, so I'm not sure if this drive will last very long under the kind of workload you're putting it under

BGM

5:28 PM

If the drive was new, what kind of life expectancy would there be for it?

oh you just said 3000 cycles

DragonLord

The SSD 850 PRO is good for at least twice that (SMART data says 6,000 cycles), and likely more

(3D V-NAND is said to be good for 35,000 cycles)

BGM

I'm completely new to SSDs, so this is helpful to consider.

DragonLord

You might want to replace the drive once it starts reallocating sectors (although unlike hard drives, sector reallocation does not indicate imminent failure as SSDs are designed to do this to extend usable life)

My laptop uses a 512 GB Samsung SSD 850 PRO and it has about 6.6 TB of writes on it

BGM

wow

I think

DragonLord

It's warranted for 10 years or 150 TB, but I'm certain it'll handle 600+ TB of writes

BGM

5:35 PM

You said the SSD I bought would not work with SATA 6 speeds...

DragonLord

3,000 P/E cycles on a 128GB drive is about 375 TB of writes, but I would consider it good for about 150 TB (or even 100 TB) of writes before I'd consider replacing it

I'd leave some wiggle room as the older technology means more write amplification and less effective wear leveling

BGM

What kind of boost should I expect?

DragonLord

@BGM It's an older model that does not support SATA 6 Gb/s. You're going to be limited to SATA 3 Gb/s, which will limit sequential I/O performance, but random I/O is still going to be very fast.

You should still get a substantial performance gain, but not as much as with a more modern SSD.

BGM

So, when I go to swap it for a newer one, I would move my pagefile back to C: and disable the IRST?

DragonLord

Yes, then remove the old SSD, install the new one, and set it up as before.

BGM

5:44 PM

Great! This is fun.

DragonLord

You meant disable Intel SRT.

But I suppose you'll get some substantial performance gains.

BGM

ISRT - yes

or, not disable it - just remove it from the SSD allocation.

DragonLord

Intel Smart Response Technology will monitor the data you access often and cache it. You can adjust how aggressively it caches new data to optimize for performance or longevity.

BGM

It would probably even help if I enabled it on a section of my HDD?

DragonLord

Not sure about that

BGM

5:55 PM

I have a 10GB partition that I created as FAT.

DragonLord

It would only accelerate that part.

I'd probably apply it to the whole disk if possible. I'm not really familiar with this.

BGM

I mean to use that disk for ISRT

DragonLord

You need at least 18.6 GB. It'll be dedicated space—the SRT partition is specially formatted and does not use FAT.

BGM

ah. I don't see an option for accelerating using HDD anyway

DragonLord

The whole point is that SSDs are much faster than HDDs.

BGM

6:03 PM

right; I get that part

okay - I have another problem I was hoping someone would know about. :)

For some reason when we play youtube videos in firefox we have to move our mouses around to keep the video from stalling. Ever heard of that?

It happens on several different computers

DragonLord

6:15 PM

Not sure what might be going on here, sorry.

Nate Kerkhofs

7:02 PM

I'm worried. Windows Update has been trying to finish this Windows Live Essentials update (already had the main screen) for the last 4 hours.

Is that normal?

Hennes

No idea how long windows essentials can take, but for normal windows updates: Yes.

That can easily take a day if you need a lot of updates on an older computer.

DragonLord

superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/337940

Please approve this edit, seems the user lost his cookie.

Hennes

Then (s)he should join the dark side. We have cookies.

DragonLord

I just got an anonymous suggested edit on this question apparently from the same user. @Mark: Please contact the Stack Exchange team here to recover access to your account, it seems you've lost your cookie. — DragonLord 3 mins ago

Nate Kerkhofs

@Hennes there aren't that many updates, actually. I mean, it is a factory reset (old laptop I'm reconfiguring for my mother), but it only had 5 updates waiting. WLE was the last one and it's been hanging on that for the past 4 hours now, and 30 minutes on an attempt at canceling the install since it's finished

Hennes

7:17 PM

In that case it is sadly not unusual.

Nate Kerkhofs

so I should just let it continue?

Hennes

When that happens I mostly leave it for the night, and if it has not failed/timedour by morning I just reboot.

Might not be a neat solution, but I have long since accepted that as the windows way.

Nate Kerkhofs

just sounds silly. anyway, slightly related question: it's a laptop from 2010, so 5 years old with Windows 7. is it worth installing the free Windows 10 update once it releases? the user is quite computer illiterate

Hennes

uhm, it depends on the user.

My mother is barely computer literate. She started on XP and her current windows 7 install (on a laptop from 2005) mimics the XP/98 setup.
I would not install windows 10 for her because it looks *different*

studiohack

8:10 PM

This seems like a dumb question... but I'm trying to use a Dragon Dictation app on an Ipad

and I want to take audio coming out of my laptop and put it into the Dragon app

can I do that with a 3.5mm cable between device headphone jacks? does the iPad allow me to do that?

DragonLord

8:28 PM

I don't think the iPad supports that. You'll need to hook up a mike or connect the 3.5mm line into an audio interface attached through the Thunderbolt connector, possibly through an adapter.

...er, Lightning

Bob

10:12 PM

@studiohack Should be a simple dumb conversion. You'll be stuck with mono though.

iPads should have a TRRS. Laptop should be a TRS.

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er

not always true. Laptops can be TRRS too

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...true

More common recently :\

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