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1:47 PM

Hey @all!

2:00 PM

hey @Marc-Andre

2:43 PM

Hello

hey @Phrancis

and bye, need to go afk for a bit :p

Hi bye!

Hey @Phrancis! are you working or you're on holidays ?

Working :|

Hey @bazola

3:06 PM

howdy @Phrancis

3:20 PM

been working on any more java stuff?

Holidays and music been keeping me busy, haven't even had ~~a chance~~ the motivation to go back to my Hello, World script yet and apply the suggested improvements lol.

3:48 PM

and hi!

@Phrancis small nitpick: Java is not a scripting language, I would use program instead! (but it's so minor that you don't really need to pay attention to this)

Oh. I wouldn't know the difference between a scripting language and... the other thing ;-)

Scripting language

A scripting language or script language is a programming language that supports scripts, programs written for a special run-time environment that can interpret (rather than compile) and automate the execution of tasks that could alternatively be executed one-by-one by a human operator. Environments that can be automated through scripting include software applications, web pages within a web browser, the shells of operating systems (OS), and embedded systems. A scripting language can be viewed as a domain-specific language for a particular environment; in the case of scripting an application, this...

Ahh I see

4:10 PM

here is some ugly objective-c for you

-(void) handlePanFrom:(UIGestureRecognizer *)recognizer {

    CGPoint touchLocation = [recognizer locationInView:recognizer.view];
    touchLocation = [self convertPointFromView:touchLocation];

    if (recognizer.state == UIGestureRecognizerStateBegan) {

        NSArray *nodesAtPoint = [self nodesAtPoint:touchLocation];
        for (SKNode *node in nodesAtPoint) {
            if ([node.name isEqualToString:@"cardNode"] && !_nodeToPan) {
                _nodeToPan = node;
            }
        }

I can't get the idea out of my head that Obj-C is ugly

What is -(void)? Seems like an odd language struct... then again, it's Obj-C

void just means that it doesn't return anything

so if it were -(int) that would mean that it returns an integer, and -(BOOL) means that it would return YES or NO. And you can also return arrays and objects etc

Ok I just felt it was weird to start a line with a hyphen/minus sign

theres a lot of weird stuff in objective-c syntax

4:18 PM

So all iOS developers worked in Obj-C, before Swift came?

yeah, unless they use unity or something like RoboVM

swift is not really ready for professional use in my opinion

@skiwi I guess not since there are framework who will "translate" it for you or you could always do a mobile web app I guess.

I wouldn't call Obj-C ready either (despite it being used for so long and proven), because you can make so many errors I'd imagine

I cannot imagine coding in C either though

what do you mean by make so many errors?

The syntax looks extremely difficult to me

4:21 PM

Ping: Anything added dilutes everything else.

it took me about a year to get the hang of the syntax. the apple libraries are really huge though and every single class has syntax to learn

xcode has a really good autocomplete feature though so that helps tremendously

@bazola very single class has syntax to learn Really? I would guesses that classes would be implementation/use details to learn and not syntax.

yeah i suppose that is true

Ok sorry I'm a bit tired and for no good reason I feel like really nitpicky. :S

its not really syntax so much as learning all of the available methods and what they do

nah it is an important distinction

4:26 PM

Ping: Favor focus over features.

Ping: Half measures are as bad as nothing at all.

Ping: Speak like a human.

Ping ping ping!

Pong

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Ugh I'm so bored. Maybe I'll go learn some more JavaScript.

Or maybe Java.

I'd go learn Java!

4:35 PM

I would suggest Java too :P

Yeah that's probably a smart suggestion. JavaScript is... weird.

JavaScript will be "easier" after a "standard" language!

[skiwi2/HearthMonitor] skiwi2 pushed commit 906730be to master

> Initial project setup.

[skiwi2/HearthMonitor] skiwi2 created branch develop

That seems enough for today!

@skiwi What are you making?

4:42 PM

The HearthStone logreader/app I've been talking about

(I like the name, BTW)

@Phrancis Thanks!

It took me a week or so to come up with it

First attempt was Heartbeat... then I figured out the game uses "Hearth" and not "Heart"

Then today I had HeartWatcher, but it already existed somewhere

4:55 PM

At least I have a repo now

5:10 PM

[skiwi2/HearthMonitor] skiwi2 pushed commit cfd7b3a3 to master

> Updated the readme to include the structure of this project.

[skiwi2/HearthMonitor] skiwi2 pushed 1 commit to develop

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7:09 PM

So, I'm doing this:

public static void main (String args[]) {
    HelloWorld helloObj = new HelloWorld("Phrancis");
    System.out.println(helloObj.getMessage());
   	System.out.println(helloObj.toString());
}

Alignment got borked, but whatever

// Output
// Hello World, Phrancis!
// HelloWorld@7852e922

What is the usefulness of the second value? Is that its memory location?

Returns a string representation of the object. In general, the toString method returns a string that "textually represents" this object. The result should be a concise but informative representation that is easy for a person to read. It is recommended that all subclasses override this method.

The toString method for class Object returns a string consisting of the name of the class of which the object is an instance, the at-sign character `@', and the unsigned hexadecimal representation of the hash code of the object. In other words, this method returns a string equal to the value of:

docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/…

7:33 PM

Did it answer your question @Phrancis ?

Kind of. All this is so new to me :)

7:53 PM

If you need help just ask

8:11 PM

@Phrancis so basically if you create a custom object such as Car, you should create a toString() method for your custom Car class that returns a useful string, such as "This is a Car of type X" and it would look at its type value and create that string