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7:03 PM
I can totally see @tchrist wearing diphthongs and triphthongs and all kinds of thongs
under his yellow poncho
it's gross, but I can see it.
ugh. I can never get the Bugdroid hat because I have class so I don't have an Android phone.
 
Hello @GeorgePompidou welcome back to this chat.
 
I do not require a welcome back to internet chatrooms
so are you still a self-absorbed emo kid?
 
@GeorgePompidou That is not very nice of you.
 
@GeorgePompidou remember why you keep getting chat bans?
 
But you are free to say what you want. I believe in freedom of speech.
 
7:13 PM
it's not up to you, do you see how self-absorbed you are? it's completely not up to you what I say, it's up to the moderators
so it literally doesn't matter at all if you believe in freedom of speech or that I can say whatever I want.
 
Wow, what you just said. I cannot believe it.
 
@MattЭллен yes blushes
I just sometimes feel like I have a sixth sense of seeing how full of themselves people are when nobody else sees it.
 
Well, I must admit that you have hurt my feelings, but I will get over it now.
 
just look at how holier-than-thou every single one of his messages are
 
@GeorgePompidou it is up to you what you say. whether or not you can say it here is another matter.
 
7:16 PM
do you not see this? please tell me someone else can see this
look how self-important this last message was: "Well, I must admit that you have hurt my feelings, but I will get over it now."
I literally think I'm going insane
maybe it's the second coming of the baby Jesus
gives Jasper some water
waits for him to turn it into wine
 
@GeorgePompidou This statement is so ironic.
 
haha, touché.
maybe it's like gaydar—you can see it if you are it.
I think I've made a breakthrough scientific discovery!
my German professor ended each question on our final with "Seien Sie bitte genau" and the whole time I felt as though the Gestapo would come shoot me if I wasn't genau enough :'<
offers some animal sacrifices to the Bundeskanzlerin
 
@MattЭллен ...your eyes stained with the blood of your victims.
 
@Mitch yes!
 
Jez
chameleon? i don't even know how i got this hat
apparently it's a secret hat
 
7:31 PM
:O
 
@tchrist Frankly, I had never heard this culinary term before.
The first one that appeals to me is Hellenize. But several of the other ones are probably valid.
 
From Jan to Nov, we go for rep. In Dec, we go for hats. QED.
 
WTF are my playa postings getting downvoted?
 
because everyone knows how to pronounce playa dude
it's two syllables. pla ya. you should know; you studied Spanish. it's a Spanish word.
 
@tchrist You might also consider Grecify.
 
7:36 PM
finally got my downvote crab hat ^.^
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Did you ever see The Incredibles? Of course you have, you have kids. So near the end where everyone dies...I mean where a couple more superheroes come out, the bad guy, who is about to kill everybody, thus ending the movie (warning, it's a tragedy), says "Is that Fironic?" (rhyming with ironic.)
Now the major question of the day is .. was that ironic?
 
Jez
@MattЭллен is that hat for real or did you modify your gravatar?
 
I never really understood the meaning of ironic.
 
It's confusing. also there are lots of different defintions.
Also, lots of (even more and different) ways people use it.
 
I have never used the word myself.
 
7:39 PM
Irony is when what you say is the opposite of what you mean and the audience is supposed to know that.
 
@JasperLoy The classic sense is of the reader (or viewer) of the story knowing something that the character doesn't, usually contradictory to what the character thinks they know.
!!jinx!!
 
@Mitch That is only dramatic irony, a subsense.
A valid sense, of course.
 
@Cerberus so double entendre is considered irony?
 
@Mitch I have kids, but they haven't seen The Incredibles.
And I don't remember the scene you mean.
 
@Mitch I don't think that matches my definition?
But maybe in a way you could say it is closely related to irony.
 
7:43 PM
Irony (from Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία (eirōneía), meaning "dissimulation, feigned ignorance"), in its broadest sense, is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or event characterized by an incongruity, or contrast, between what the expectations of a situation are and what is really the case, with a third element, that defines that what is really the case is ironic because of the situation that led to it. Irony may be divided into categories such as: verbal, dramatic, and situational. Verbal, dramatic, and situational irony are often used for emphasis in the assertion of a truth. The ironic form...
The taxonomy is considerable
 
That is a very broad definition...
My definition was the basic one.
 
@JasperLoy It takes a sarcastic bent of mind.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Maybe it was a bystander who said it... right before they all die.
 
@Mitch Even if it were, I still wouldn't remember it
 
@Jez my crab hat? it is a winter bash hat.
 
Jez
yeah but it's crooked
 
7:47 PM
oh! right, balpha has added controls so you can position and size your hat
 
so when you pick what hat to wear (from you profile) you select that check box and it will show you the tools
 
Jez
oh nice
hmm mine hasn't updated in here
 
it can take a couple of minutes
 
Jez
ah
 
7:57 PM
Hello @Josh61 welcome to this chat.
 
@GeorgePompidou Don't be dumb. This is really about pliers and playas being homophonic in RP, and a misclassification of triphthongs.
 
Only five more needed!
 
@Jez jaunty
 
Jez
?
 
Primary voting has started on Math SE.
 
8:00 PM
@Jez your hat
 
Jez
ah :-)
wasn't there a user here called nohat?
 
there is a moderator called nohat, yes :D
 
Is he still a mod? Haven't seen him around in ages.
 
he still does stuff.
he's more hands off than andrew, kit, reg and myself
similar to waiwai
 
@Robusto Maybe the things they do are invisible.
 
8:08 PM
I quite agree with Prof. Wells here. English definitely has no triphthongs. If Roach’s definition were accepted, we’d have tetraphthongs (‘so I’ [səʊaɪ]) and even heptaphthongs (‘the Oreo I ate’ [ðiˈɔriəʊaɪeɪt]. Part of the definition of a polyphthong is that it is tautosyllabic, which no triphthong is in English, at least not phonemically. Some phonetic triphthongs do appear here and there, like hill being pronounced [iəʊ̃] in some forms of Estuary BrE, for example. — Janus Bahs Jacquet 4 hours ago
 
I opted in on hats this year, now I will heva to live with this crappy one until I luck and get some day-specific hat.
 
@JohanLarsson Hats off to you.
 
And you have a fancy one of course.
 
I just put on a new hat.
By the way @Robusto is your leg totally recovered after that surgery long ago?
 
How the hell do we get exact dupes like this?
3
Q: The meaning of "be it practices"

keivanCould you help me understand the meaning of "be it practices" in the context below? People will always find some aspect of another culture distasteful, be it practices, a way of treating friends or relatives, or simply a food that they can not manage to get down with a smile.

This must be a bunch of people with the same damned homework.
 
8:15 PM
@tchrist Most questions on math are HW.
 
@JasperLoy It's as good as it's ever going to be, yes.
 
Weird. That was grounds for immediate expulsion when I was in school.
 
@Robusto I wish there was brain surgery to fix me.
 
I got a new knee. Maybe you can get a new brain.
 
It's hard to produce an artificial brain. Maybe 1000 more years.
 
8:18 PM
or travel to Oz. I hear there's a wizard...
He got me a new heart, but I ate it.
 
I wonder when NASA will find a new planet for us. Maybe 10,000 more years.
 
Why leave it up to NASA?
 
Jez
i don't get why we don't build a moon base.
Obama's Mars mission is quite pathetic in comparison. i mean 50 years for one measly visit to Mars
when we could be having the coolness of an underground Moon base in 10 years
maybe in future, tours to the Moon (for multimillionaires)
 
@Jez Hey, I don't see England putting anything into the mix here. Stop complaining about us and put in your own work.
 
Jez
permanent scientific opportunities
i didnt say my country wasn't shit. we're pretty much the 51st state nowadays anyway
i just think all those people who say "we don't need a moonbase" are very short sighted. sure we don't, but we didn't need to do any space exploration. or exploration of the new world.
we don't usually do exploration out of necessity
i think the prospect of permanent human habitation of a non-Earth body is much more exciting than a one-off trip to mars. i'd sooner leave that to the robots, short-term
 
8:31 PM
@Jez In the future, please.
 
Jez
eh? it doesn't need an article
 
Precisely. In Hindi, open syllables beginning with voiced aspirates are all aspirated: /bhu, dha, ghi/ etc. — John Lawler in exile 16 mins ago
 
@tchrist Who would think he knew Hindi?
 
@JasperLoy Why would he not have studied its phonetic anomalies?
Or maybe he has been exiled to the Subcontinent.
 
Hmm I thought in future was wrong except in casual speech.
 
8:34 PM
@Cerberus It sounds wrong.
 
Perhaps I was wrong.
 
It is considered an NNS thing in NA.
 
Jez
it does not sound wrong
 
Perhaps it is insular.
 
@Jez Wrong again.
It is indeed insular.
This is the problem.
 
Jez
8:35 PM
i didnt know that.
i've been using in future my whole life.
"pay more attention in future" for example
 
This is the nature of insularity.
 
Same here @Jez.
@choster Welcome to this chat.
 
Thanks. A very occasional participant am I.
I'm a very outgoing introvert. The one who takes a book to a crowded lounge to read around other people
So it is with chatrooms
 
I agree with Jez. "In future" is fine
 
Jez
though i'm not sure why. logically it probably should have an article
we do say "at present" too
 
8:49 PM
Language is not logic. Neither is politics or religion.
 
Jez
but then we say in the past
 
Insular English uses in future, but that is for whatever reason considered ungrammatical in the States, where it must be in the future. I make no apology nor explanation for why this is so; it simply is.
I simply cannot bring myself to ask some dumbass SWR that will get 5 answers within 30 minutes of its posting.
 
@MattЭллен Hmm interesting.
I had noticed in future but assumed it was simply a common typo.
 
@Cerberus I also use in future all the time. Maybe it is a Br vs Am thing?
 
@JasperLoy Apparently, it is.
 
9:01 PM
What, am I talking to the wall?
 
But you know I'm usually on the insular hand.
 
Must I tell you three times?
 
No, we heard you.
 
Once was enough for these three heads.
 
Then why did you say maybe?
 
9:01 PM
But someone didn't get it, apparently.
 
@tchrist yeah yeah. just keep your poncho buttoned in front of kids, you homophone. they don't want to see your triphthong.
 
I am a bit slow.
 
Jez
@tchrist maybe you should be a bit clearer in future :-)
 
George, you aren’t even funny. Pay attention to why you keep getting banned in chatrooms.
 
both of those things are irrelevant, Tom
whether or not I'm funny is subjective; some think I am funny, and then some are old and bald.
 
9:07 PM
Try not to upset people @GeorgePompidou.
 
I'm getting many orders from people on the internet today!
can I get anyone some coffee while I'm at it?
 
Maybe you need to see a therapist @GeorgePompidou.
 
that's deep man, coming from you.
 
Well, I am crazy, that's for sure.
 
maybe you're right. sometimes I feel like I'm too handsome and cool and have a hard time fitting in as a result.
 
9:11 PM
As Zeus said to Narcissus: Watch yourself, young man.
 
^.^
as George replied: I have many mirrors in my room so that I can do just that.
 
No wonder you have such a hard time.
 
yeah, it's tough. my life is tough.
 
@GeorgePompidou Do you want to talk about your life? I will listen to you.
 
yeah, I sometimes am too lazy to go to chipotle and they don't do delivery
Jasper, man, c'mon. I think you're better off putting me on ignore if I'm honest.
does this chat have an ignore function?
 
9:15 PM
I am seriously interested in helping you, if you have a tough life.
 
I mean for the love of god, you get raged by the most minute things I say. it would be so much more peaceful if you did not see my messages, and did not incite mean things from me.
 
@GeorgePompidou I think raged is not the right word.
@GeorgePompidou I also don't think incite is the right word.
 
you're partially right; I fixed it.
 
Jez
@GeorgePompidou nope.
 
really? wow.
 
9:17 PM
I also don't love God, and I know he doesn't love me.
 
no wait, it does.
@JasperLoy pahahaha
 
@GeorgePompidou However, I am pretty sure he exists.
 
god loves everyone equally Jasper, even if you're an emo kid.
 
Well, are you trying to upset me by repeatedly calling me emo kid?
 
nope.
I couldn't care less about your mood.
 
9:20 PM
@RegDwigнt Pray forgive me; I shall undo the undoing anon.
 
@GeorgePompidou That's not a very nice thing to say. But still, I won't ignore you.
 
Jez
muhahaha
i was getting hammered with some guy's botnet trying to hack into my server thru SSH
i've started running it on a nonstandard port and now I just get one or two port scans
 
@GeorgePompidou The ignore function doesn't work. It punishes the person who uses the function, rather than the ignored person.
 
Jez
suck on that hackers
 
how so?
 
9:21 PM
When you ignore someone in chat, other people will still interact with that person.
the chat transcript then becomes difficult to follow.
 
I had to star that hilarious message.
 
It only works if everyone who's chatting ignores the same person.
 
even though, when a pronoun refers to God, it must be capitalized, Jasper. maybe that's why He doesn't love you.
 
@JasperLoy Um... I hope it tasted good.
 
ah, that makes sense. but I really think it's different if Jasper ignored me.
 
Jez
9:23 PM
hey @GeorgePompidou you're being a bit of a dick
 
how do we give stars? :)
 
because I sort of come in here and just say things, most people ignore me to begin with.
I don't think he would be losing much by ignoring me.
think of the problems it would solve! most of the things that cause me to say mean things are hilariously self-absorbed emo stuff that Jasper says. if he stopped seeing what I write, he would stop replying to me, thereby reducing the chance of me saying something mean by a large margin.
 
@GeorgePompidou I am trying to understand your thoughts. You are hard to fathom.
 
why? why on earth would you do that?
 
@GeorgePompidou But every time someone responds to you, as I am, he'd know you're in here, chatting, but not know what you're saying.
 
9:25 PM
that's the point
 
And when I respond like this, he'd think I was talking to him, and not know that I'm talking to you.
It's just not a good chatroom experience.
 
Yes, it's just hard to follow the conversation.
 
hm… it would be a small sacrifice for a large gain.
 
It just doesn't work well.
I've done it. I ignored tchrist for weeks at one point. I figured that was better than getting into another argument with him. It just didn't work; nobody else ignored him, so the chat room made no sense at all. If he was here, I may as well not be.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That was a brave confession!
 
9:28 PM
@JasperLoy It wasn't exactly a secret.
 
but tchrist talks more than I do. and I think more people pay attention to him.
 
@GeorgePompidou I think maybe you are trying to hide some hurt in your life.
 
just look at that! it keeps coming
 
@GeorgePompidou It doesn't matter much. If you're talking at all, it ruins the chat room for anyone who's trying to ignore you, unless EVERYONE is ignoring you.
 
and I'm the one who gets yelled at.
 
9:29 PM
Anyway if you're so keen on the feature, you could try ignoring Jasper.
 
but why would I? I get a kick out of most of the hilarious things he says.
 
I think maybe the star wall needs cleaning up. Except the line with the most stars.
 
I agree ^
and also I don't really care as much as he does about what people say on the internet.
it really has no profound effect on my actual life.
 
I think you picked the wrong icon, though. You should have picked one that turns to stone at day-break. @tchrist will understand.
 
yes, I agree, the one about me being a dick needs to stay. it's really helping with my ego.
 
9:31 PM
sorry for too many stars. just for the hat :)
 
@GeorgePompidou I think it'd need a dozen more stars before it'd make any measurable improvement ;)
 
@ermanen If you’re looking for hattishness, this needs just 3 for me to get a hat. I’ll find one of yours if I can.
 
Star-whores.
Or is it hat-whores?
 
@Cerberus Star wars and hat wars.
 
9:35 PM
@Robusto Did that some time ago. How do you reckon I find it so easily to use as a dupe target?
 
@AndrewLeach I thank you for your support.
 
@Robusto I didn't mean that kind of star-whore.
 
@Cerberus I suppose you are a connoisseur of star-whores.
 
oh no! I forgot that I drove to campus and I took the bus back.
now my car is on campus
whines
 
Sorry. That's worth a star.
And not because I know how that feels. Of course not.
 
@Robusto I see you are really mad about hats!
 
Mad as a hatter.
 
@JasperLoy Yes, I am a mad hatter.
Jinx.
> In this style 10/6
 
@Robusto They are forced upon me.
 
@GeorgePompidou Luckily I don't drive.
 
9:39 PM
@Cerberus If a whore is forced upon you, you're doing it wrong.
 
self absorbed statement
it's not about you Jasper; I'm the one who forgot my car
 
@Robusto It is more like, whores pay me.
 
luckily you don't drive isn't a logical conclusion.
 
@Cerberus You are . . . the most interesting dog in the world.
 
All whores say that.
 
9:40 PM
@Cerberus Does that make you a whore? Or a meta-whore?
 
@GeorgePompidou It's not self absorbed. I am trying to pay attention to what you say and make conversation with you. I will try to be friendly even if you are unfriendly.
 
@AndrewLeach I agree. my girlfriend is laughing at me too. I'm the laughingstock of the internet and my room community.
 
@Cerberus I thought it was three heads.
Oh...
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Err I guess both.
@AndrewLeach No comment.
 
@Cerberus may as well get an iPhone now. You can't sink much lower.
 
9:42 PM
posted on December 15, 2014 by sgdi

There once was a large lump of chow That made all the people go “wow!” The size was amazing The brightness was dazing Been lost for six centuries now

 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Are you implying that there is something wrong with prostitution?
 
@AndrewLeach I just noticed that you changed your picture, lol.
 
hey, you have the iPhone hat!
 
@Cerberus Yes! It's morally equivalent to buying an iPhone
 
@JasperLoy Yup. But you can guess why.
 
9:42 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I never meta-whore I didn't like.
 
I got that one too but I wanted to wear my meanie crab one to emphasize how much of a jerk I am.
 
@GeorgePompidou You know, maybe you are right that I should ignore you.
@AndrewLeach I can't. Your beard was lovely.
 
A beard is not a hat.
 
@AndrewLeach What if your beard is long enough to drape over your head, like a turban?
 
(I apologize for the hypocrisy in this statement ahead of time) Jasper, you assume so much that I care about your thoughts. I do not.
 
9:44 PM
Screw the hats, I'm putting on my helmet.
 
I will just put on my hair.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't think I could put up with it while waiting for that.
 
@AndrewLeach I think it'd be worth the wait!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Why?? Buying an Iphone is a crime against humanity, nay, against good taste.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Five words: randomly selected for additional screening.
 
9:45 PM
@Robusto "randomly"
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I mean that literally figuratively.
 
@JasperLoy Good idea. Most people seem to be doing so already.
 
@Robusto I think nothing that happens to the beard-turban guy is truly random. Ever. The beard-turban bends chance.
 
@Cerberus hey! you don't hate me!
 
Man, I’d have a better chance of a hat if I begged votes for the triphthong answer. And I know who downvoted me, the grinch.
 
9:48 PM
I am the most recent one to downvote you, but only because you asked why people are downvoting you.
and because I believe it is a overstated question with an overstated answer, but that is secondary and alone would not have motivated me to spend a few seconds navigating to the question and downvoting it.
 
I have a serial up-voter.
I think those are my only questions ever.
 
@Cerberus Maybe he is trying to get some hat.
 
*head
It won't work.
 
Geezis!
But you already have Mario.
 
Indeed.
 
9:50 PM
I am still waiting for my Maria.
I will wait 7 more years.
 
 
1 hour later…
11:20 PM
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Hatter's Dashery (no tags)
 
@KitFox Hi! I have been feeling down lately.
 
@Cerberus there's probably a hat for up voting old questions. Not that you don't deserve it. It's just motivation.
 
@JasperLoy I'm sorry to hear that. Good shit didn't set you right?
 
Oh. @JasperLoy you already said that.
 
@KitFox Nah. Maybe I will say a bit more in my email. I should send you one for Christmas.
 
11:24 PM
I would like that.
The holidays are always a nutty time of year.
 
I plan to watch old movies this month.
 
I am trying to finish a short story for a contest because I was determined to submit short fiction somewhere this year and I'm running out of time.
 
I just finished Good Will Hunting and A Beautiful Mind again.
 
Watching old movies sounds like more fun.
 
Well, it would be fun to win money for the contest.
 
11:28 PM
No money, just prestige.
The real goal is to have produced something.
Less about winning. That would just be gravy.
 
I see. Just like the Fields medal. Not much money but prestige. Nobel prize is more money though.
 
I have enough money. What I need is more writing.
 
OK. You might wanna become a full time writer some day.
Publish your own books and make money from it.
 
Wait...what was the math prize that Russian turned down for the Poincaré conjecture
 
@Mitch Millennium problems.
 
11:30 PM
Oh. Not exactly the same as a field medal.
 
He rejected 1 million USD!
 
Jez
 
He should at least have given it to me.
 
He has principles. And hopefully a job alteady
 
Jez
doge is the silliest meme in the history of the net
 
11:32 PM
Doges are cute
 
@Mitch He has enough money to eat bread for the rest of his life, I heard.
But at least he should have taken the money for his poor mum.
 
Man does not live by bread alone. You need a complete protein which wheat doesn't provide.
 
I would not take money for my mum.
 
Should probably supplement with rice or potatoes
 
You can have her for free.
 
11:33 PM
Plus shipping
 
My mum is one good thing in my bad life.
 
Nope. I'll pay the shipping even.
 
She has always loved me and supported me in all ways.
 
Poke holes in the box
 
sighs in exasperation
 
11:34 PM
Do you know that bookdepository.com has free shipping worldwide?
But I think amazon.com is still cheaper in most cases.
 
Have a cookie. And a voight-kampf test
Turn over the turtle.
 
You want to know about my mother?
 
Yes.
 
What's a tortoise?
 
It's an animal.
 
11:37 PM
@JasperLoy You know plenty about her. I don't think I need to re-hash.
 
OK.
 
@KitFox do you think of PK Dick as a good writer in general or just good for sic-fi?
 
I'm trying to remember what I've read of his.
Probably sweet Dick all.
 
Ha ha. You've seen all of them in movies
 
Is anyone here going to watch The Hobbit 3 this month?
 
11:39 PM
Blade runner, minority report... Um ... That other movie where that thing happens
I've voiced my opinion about that excrescent boil on the scrotum of humanity
 
@Mitch I know.
I was reading his biblio. I don't think I've actually read any of his work, but maybe short stories.
 
Hobbitses..blech
 
@JasperLoy No.
Well, maybe. I don't know. I'm not.
 
OK. I just watched 1 and 2 because I hear 3 is out this month.
Anyway I think LOTR 1,2,3 was better.
I am going to bed.
 
Good night.
 

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