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12:03 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ It's a great feeling when you nail that issue you've been working on, eh?
 
12:24 AM
"A current probe has exceeded a non-critical threshold. Contact your helpdesk or Dell Technical Support for further assistance."

A current probe? o.O That's a new one!
Normally this fault is a temperature probe problem.
 
Bob
12:55 AM
@MichaelFrank ...the hell is a current probe for?
 
@Bob I don't know!
Measuring current I guess?
In the end I guess it doesn't matter, the laptop is out of warranty, so they'll probably just replace it.
 
WTF... my cat told me, "mah!" ... I asked her what it means and she just kept on saying it... cats are so unreasonable... they can't even communicate like a normal person
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank we normally call those "fuses".
 
@Bob heh...
 
1:33 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ thanks so much. i have finally downloaded all the course vids (half from friend's connection)
ok nope.
few are left
wait... what the hell is happening
 
@AwalGarg last I checked, it was still finishing up downloading the .webm version
actually I think it's done
which ones did you download?
http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/small/ -- 50% reduced x264 versions
http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/tiny/ -- 85% reduced VP9/libopus WebM versions
 
wait a sec, let me check by opening each.
 
if you have .mp4 format, those are the "big" ones, but no sense in downloading the small ones if you already have them
if you have .webm format, those are my tiniest yet
@Bob also made some smaller .mp4 versions but they're nowhere near as small as the .webm versions I have under /tiny/
and they're finally done (the tiny ones)
the biggest file under tiny is 3.7 MB :P
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ can you access log files and see which ones my friend downloaded?
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ hey, they're not that far off (I believe it's something like 80%?) :P
and I still say they sound better (video quality is a bit lower though), not that any of that matters
 
1:41 AM
> # cat /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep '/awal/' | grep -E 'mp4|webm'
204.12.202.131 - - [09/Jul/2014:16:46:01 +0000] "GET /awal/orig/5.mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 22200606 "http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/orig/" "Wget/1.15 (linux-gnu)"
204.12.202.131 - - [09/Jul/2014:16:46:20 +0000] "GET /awal/orig/6.mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 26664557 "http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/orig/" "Wget/1.15 (linux-gnu)"
204.12.202.131 - - [09/Jul/2014:16:46:42 +0000] "GET /awal/orig/7.mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 14408278 "http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/orig/" "Wget/1.15 (linux-gnu)"
that's all the mp4/webm downloads in /awal, ever, on my server
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ You forgot to sanitise IPs! :P
 
hehe, jugaad A.W.E.Some
 
Bob
The wgets are probably from me.
| grep -v -i 'wget'
 
yeah, I doubt his friend downloaded from /orig anyway... that would be wasteful of bandwidth
someone's using an ancient version of FF
(not me... lol)
 
Bob
1:44 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ where?
 
@Bob it's in the UA.
in that access log.
> 70.208.134.254 - - [09/Jul/2014:21:31:00 +0000] "GET /awal/tiny/8o.webm HTTP/1.1" 200 3404224 "http://tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/tiny/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0"
Firefox 19 on Linux
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ hard to read on mobile view
 
not even the FF that Cavil was on last week is that old :P
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ya, not me :P
I did FF on mobile and FF on Win8.1
 
wtf is stagefright/1.2? some kind of android player?
 
Bob
1:45 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Oh, that might be MX Player
Android 4.3... yea, probably that one
 
hmm, now I have all of them.
mixed in mp4 and webm
 
@AwalGarg hehe, well at least the webms you downloaded saved you a few megabytes of data
 
that was fast enough, thanks to @ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ yep, a lot of MBs if you ask me.
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ do tell me please if there is any way I can help you back, anytime.
!!afk studying
 
OMG :D Android 4.4.4 update coming down on my phone :D
gonna be away a while though since it's tethered
22 MB / 284 MB download
 
1:50 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^
 
once it starts updating, since my phone is full disk encrypted, it's gonna take like 30 - 45 minutes to upgrade... plus, I'll be switching to ART, which will tremendously increase first boot time
 
Bob
pretty cool
I mean, HTTP Connect is better obviously, but that one works over even more restrictive proxies
 
@Bob hmm. well I really, really love GateOne. works perfectly at work.
my web browser -> my server running Apache 2.4.9 with my StartCom cert installed -> reverse proxy to GateOne listening on localhost:someport
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I'm still waiting for an XSA 4.4.x build :(
 
GateOne MUST host its own web server (and it also uses websockets), so mod_proxy and mod_proxy_wstunnel take care of its HTTP and WebSockets needs, respectively
the latter only available as of Apache 2.4.5
 
Bob
1:53 AM
4.4.2 has been out on other CSCs for months now
 
but I disabled the HTTPS support within GateOne itself and use the TLS layer of Apache
and use pam for authentication
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ eh, all my sites and subdomains are hosted on their own VMs via nginx proxy_pass
 
not as good as supplying a TLS client cert in the browser, since it does password-based BASIC authentication (over TLS, but still, password)
@Bob I occasionally run stuff that needs Apache, so I use Apache as my front-end and reverse proxy to anything that needs something else downstream
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ If I ever run anything that requires Apache, I'll run it as the destination server. Not the reverse proxy.
 
also, I find nginx about as hard to configure as a space shuttle that's been dissected and reconstructed by Russians, physically encrypted by passing through the event horizon of a black hole and being radiated out as Hawking radiation over 10E482 years, then eaten by bacteria in 852 separate galaxies
 
Bob
1:56 AM
nice and easy
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ it's not that hard. easier than apache, actually, if you can get used to updating the central confs instead of an htaccess file
 
@Bob I don't do much with htaccess except for awal's directory where I have indexes enabled, overwriting the default
I just like the "directive-based" configuration
 
Bob
hm?
 
@Bob we were going to get 4.4.2, then 4.4.3, but they kept skipping minors and finally got a 4.4.4 build out to us
this is only the soak, anyway, so I shouldn't be talking about it
I'm under informal NDA
soak test => they send it out to a couple hundred/thousand people who volunteer through their forums
to make sure there are no showstoppers :P
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ eh, still not too difficult
 
apache just seems infinitely more flexible
 
Bob
1:59 AM
location /vids/ {
    autoindex on;
}
 
there are a lot more modules for it that do all kinds of different stuff
nginx is still relatively immature
 
Bob
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ most of what you use modules for with apache is built into nginx
 
it needs time for (even) more people to adopt it, find missing features, request em, and get em implemented and tested
my phone's going to reboot any second; see you in maybe 30 to 60 minutes
 
Bob
I actually find myself missing features on apache more, especially on Windows where most modules aren't available
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ good luck
 
NO WINDOWS lol
 
2:26 AM
update finished; time to see if the bluetooth problem is fixed!
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ cats arn't people. They're an ancient evil wrapped in a fur coat.
 
2:43 AM
@HackToHell Do you go to college? Which year?
 
3:19 AM
Eh. My bluetooth situation on my phone is BETTER now, but not perfect.
When the screen goes to sleep, it still sometimes (rarely) drops out briefly.... But it appears not to drop out at all with the screen on, and once it's off, it doesn't drop out again.
@Bob how does your Android phone handle bluetooth volume? Previously, mine set the playback device's volume to be the same as Android's volume. Now it sets only Android's volume and lets you set the headset volume separately!
Like I have vol+ / vol- keys on my headphones.... Those seem to control a completely Android-independent volume slider now.
 
@Bob @ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: techreport.com/news/26751/…
.... wait what? techreport.com/news/26750/… new... via... x86 processor? o0
actually the story might be even wierder.
They might have spun off centaur technology
 
Bob
3:45 AM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ noclue
@JourneymanGeek eh
 
I see they have started overclocking the new haswell refresh, to pretty much the same places the hasbeen already got thing gets to. Could be intel could rename it Haswell Finantial booster and R&D helper
I should get out there and show some glorious 5.2G overclocking on it (even though i dont own it) to get that funding for broadwell going :-)
A little liquid notrogen, turn the onboard cache (ring bus uncore whatever) down to barely operational, disable 3/4 of the cores , run winXP and show some glorious numbers that would not in reality pull more thn 50Gflops. 30,000 people will link to the page like zombie spammers, showing how i accomplished nothing, and really cant even get an OS to boot :-)
They will give me 2 gold stars at the overclocking website for selling another ton of hardware that nobody needs, and a chance to pour water into my computer.
 
4:36 AM
Snoverclocked computer. from this blog search-tomorrow.blogspot.com
 
@Psycogeek Except that PC in the background has no CPU installed...
 
fineartamerica.com/featured/… Either my search was off, or there aren't a lot of pictures of computers in the snow. I could not find a single modern computer.
I guess condencing water in a hard drive , just isnt as much fun as it was :-)
 
5:09 AM
The tollerant cat.
See it is all about planning the future :-) The dog is testing fitment, incase the food runs dry. The cat is figuring out how to drive a car.
 
5:35 AM
and thats interesting, you can't pass through gforce cards
;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Lan party gaming with no lan
 
@Psycogeek: pretty much
I do wonder if you could do it with a non workstation board
 
5:50 AM
W00! Access to Heroes of the Storm! :D
 
6:11 AM
 
Isn't there some kind of meme channel you could post these in? Some people use this site at work.
 
How do I best do a practical network speed test from one machine to another, mine, to a user computer, preferably command-line tools / powershell
I need statistics either while transferring or when file is copied over successfully.
Robocopy?
Reliable?
 
6:27 AM
@Erik: What OS?
 
Win7
 
ahh, alas, you lack the shininess of the new task manager
are we using windows file sharing?
 
:P
no, but everything's on the same domain, so I can access any computer with \\computername from command-line
can't install anything 3rd party
 
ahh
that makes things a bit more interesting
 
@MichaelFrank then get back to work! I am at work too.
 
6:30 AM
I'd just throw a large file at it, and keep an eye on it through resource manager
Won't give you an average, or a properly quantified result though
I tend to use this totusoft.com/lanspeed1.html . It basically does the same thing and the mathemathics for you ;p
 
thing is...
I definitely cannot use anything on the net...
 
oh, yeah
 
this system is off-internet, only way to internet is through citrix
 
so, in this case yeah, you're probably gonna be stuck with a stopwatch and a file transfer ;p
.... though...
 
and... I can't really be keeping an eye on resource manager, because, we're talking about, several hours to transfer, since the computer I'm trying to send shit to
is out to sea on a shitty connection
 
6:36 AM
powershell?
I don't speak the language, alas
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek The Resource Monitor has been there for a while, and it's more reliable than the shiny task manager anyway.
 
@Bob: true ;p
but my main box is windows 8, and that's the second thing that comes to mind when I attempt an iterative approach to working out a solution ;p
 
Bob
@Erik Why do you need to do a speed/reliability test over several hours? Is it not enough to do one over a few minutes and extrapolate?
If you just want reliability, leave a ping test running over a long period of time and look at the statistics that spits out.
 
Bob
6:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek that's link speed, not transfer speed
 
my bad
 
@Bob, I did a poor job of explaining. I actually need both a summary of average transfer speed and a verification that the files reached their destination intact
The transfer could take more than 24 hours
 
Bob
@Erik Average transfer speed = size / time.
Verification... depends how you transfer it.
Some methods (e.g. rsync) have builtin verification.
 
And I also need to know what is going on, I need some kind of real-time progress
 
Bob
Otherwise, you can grab a SHA1 or MD5 sum of the file before and after and compare.
 
7:06 AM
Sounds good
 
>_>
How strict are we about 'no additional software'?
since you'd need something third party for many of the nicer file transfer methods and to do a SHA1 or MD5 sum
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Pretty sure he works for the NSA or something.
 
Illegal
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek You can do those sums from PowerShell.
 
Lose my job and security clearance.
 
Bob
7:15 AM
@Erik You and @allquixotic should get together and chat sometime :P
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^
 
I don't work for the NSA, hehe
Pretty sure you have to be a US citizen to work for the NSA ;)
 
@Erik: not suggesting you do ;p
does @ChatBotJohnCavil have a script that says @ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ whenever someone says @allquixotic?
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^
 
;p
I guess so
hmm. teaching cavil an image trigger is !! learn trigger <>url right?
 
Bob
7:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek if you read the transcript, I added that last night :P
I use the typed form on mobile. and I use the mobile chat when at work.
 
How many of the file transfer methods when doing checksumming or hashing or whatever you want to call it, would want to Read the whole of the copied file back again? seems like to be efficient in a terrible situation like this would be to do the checksum using the other computer entirely, then to have that small file be used to compare?
 
Bob
that's an actual listener script, not a !!learn command
!!tell 16512219 help learn
 
@JourneymanGeek learn: Teaches me a command. /learn cmdName outputPattern [inputRegex [description]]
 
Naw, I want to do a !!learn command. What confuses me is the <> part ;p
@Psycogeek: smart methods checksum as you transfer
 
Bob
7:25 AM
@JourneymanGeek Yea, a prefix with <> forces it to drop the @reply
onebox fix
 
!!learn ;p <>http://i.stack.imgur.com/9P14J.jpg
 
@JourneymanGeek Command ;p learned
 
Perfect ;p
(wrong sorta dog, but selfies are a pain when you have no opposable thumbs)
 
7:28 AM
@JourneymanGeek smarter ones check the file after reading it off the storage it went to. Or to know it before (sum while transfer) and after (uhh after would not assume every packet arrived, or ever sector was written to a disk)
Most of those downloaders and P2P sharing things work both ends hash the file at the source, then hash it again at the destination to see if (at least the net part) file made it. most of the intranet file transfer things will read what it wrote to do a full compare, even if it does so with a hashing routine.
 
7:42 AM
Is it possible to entirely clone an Android phone, so that when you turn on the new one all you need to do is enter the pin code when you turn on the phone, but other than that all logins and passwords to email facebook and all that stuff is cached/cookied already
 
device duplication might be a better description
 
@tombull89 Spammer? What spammer?
@Erik: hm. identical phone?
 
yeah
identical models
 
adb backup might work
 
Bob
7:45 AM
@Erik If you can get a custom recovery on there, you can restore a Nandroid backup.
 
@JourneymanGeek Danke. He's used various account recently - is there a process for blacklisting links or sending an e-mail to the company to ask them to quit it?
 
@JourneymanGeek i think it got hit with the castle defence bane spell :-)
 
@tombull89: keep flagging
 
Does flags on SF count towards a SU ban?
 
(I'm not entirely sure how open we are about our anti spam measures)
 
Bob
7:46 AM
lol
 
Not directly
 
I think before some SF mods have e-mailed the company asking them to stop the spam...and it did.
 
Bob
@tombull89 often, they don't even know it's happening
 
@Bob, custom recovery and nandroid backup seems like a good option
 
Bob
dodgy SEO people
@Erik Personally, I prefer Titanium Backup. Not as complete as Nandroid, but it's more portable: it doesn't require that the destination device be identical.
 
7:48 AM
@Bob, does the device need to be rooted for both titanium backup and nandroid backup?
 
have I ever mentioned SEO people need to be hit on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and called bad boys/girls?
 
Bob
@Erik Yep.
Basic root is enough for TB. Nandroid requires a full custom recovery, I believe.
 
Can the device stay rooted without the user noticing that it has been rooted
or is there a notification/text somewhere
 
It won't update OTA
that's about it
oh, and it might have a different bootloader boot up video, I don't remember
 
different boot up video is no good...
but in that case it's root, do the work and un-root
 
7:57 AM
Oh, its cause you often need to unlock the bootloader to root it
and I MAY be wrong. Its been a while since I had a rooted phone that was running stock firmware
and I sorta only had it that way for about 10 minutes, before I threw a new rom on ;p
 
It is Mission Impossible night :-)
 
Wow! Heroes of the Storm is so much fun!
 
steal some doods phone, root it, clone it , set it up for blind remote access, then get it back to them in 4 minutes, while hanging from the ceiling
while simeltaniously sending 2 terrabytes of data from thier computer using a slow web leak method , to a submarine in the antlantic.
 
hahaha
just another day at work
 
8:21 AM
superuser.com/questions/781254/how-printer-works-at-low-level <-- I saw the title and was tempted to answer "Controlled projectile vomiting of ink or a very small gnome with a laserpointer, a pepper shaker of carbon and an iron""
 
@JourneymanGeek "How do I driver?"
 
I do not understand how people see an item there in the computer day after day Print To File , and dont ever wonder "what's this thing do"
Then on the other hand, some crasy nutjob , will have learned a 50 parameter command they have to type letter perfect with linux to even see an item that hangs out in a GUI.
Does this mean if we ever get into space, there will be one Rodney one col. Carter (stargate referance) and 500 blithering idiots opening the airlock to kill us all :-)
Well i don't know this alarm went off and it was really loud and i pushed the red button thinking it would stop and .. . you guys should put some kind of safety mechanism on that.
 
8:45 AM
shit, I flooded the front page with tag-cleanup.... bad me. But I just wanted to do something good in my study break.
I am sorry.
 
@AwalGarg Thanks for helping!
 
@OliverSalzburg but! I contaminated the home page.
 
eh, it happens
 
9:03 AM
:(
 
SU was only down (in read only) for a few minutes here, and seems to be working now.
 
Bob
chat dropped out earlier today too
incidentally...
!!info
 
@Bob I awoke on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 04:00:26 GMT (that's about 5 hours ago), got invoked 3 times, learned 79 commands
 
Bob
heh. the autorestart was timed perfectly (@allquixotic)
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^
 
Bob
9:07 AM
that was around the time chat disconnected - woulda killed the bot (required a page refresh)
 
9:42 AM
" DDR3 is backwards compatible" superuser.com/a/781261/98855 Is krowe saying something in a confusing way?
Because the edge connectors alone have never lined up very well :-) so i am pretty sure that you cant put 3 in 2 or 2 in 3.
 
10:02 AM
hmm...nah, you've have issues if you tired to stick DDR2 in a DDR3 slot or visa versa.
Maybe he means a processor can support both DDR2 and DDR3?
 
@tombull89 yea, there were a few motheboards that did that for a while.
Had 2 of each type of slot, and a person could use the old ddr2 they still had Or could toss that and go ddr3.
 
my AMD CPU supports both...when I got it it was part of a bundle with a CPU, board, and 4GB of DDR2. When I rebuilt the machine I kept the CPU and replaced everything else.
The DDR2 board only supported up to 8GB RAM and 4GB DDR2 modules were stupid expensive
 
Bob
10:19 AM
@tombull89 was the memory controller on the CPU?
I believe the ones that support both have the memory controllers on the mobo
in which case, it has little to do with CPU support
 
not a clue. I just looked for a board with an AM3 socket
 
@Bob yea, before the memory controller was put on the cpu. You know haswell put voltage regulation in the cpu now. people with Ivy and sandy bridge computers who overclocked stay happier with thier older cpus, using that as one reason. The voltage regulation has stacked heat on the CPU die , IMO a bit unnessisarily for a desktop.
I cant wait to see intel putting DDR5 and the psu and heck they already got the GPU on it. someday we just plug the intel chip right into the wall :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek They're moving the voltage regulation back out with Broadwell, IIRC
 
Nice.
 
10:59 AM
My wife just made me sit through Grease...
Now she's watching it again, but with the commentary on!
 
11:13 AM
 
 
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12:18 PM
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@MichaelFrank lol quote out of context. Kinky
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ahhhh... yep! That would be rather kinky!
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Luckily the ads work though
 
1:00 PM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^
 
 
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2:08 PM
@HackToHell Is it the one I am on?
 
2:46 PM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Cool stuff! You could actually consider increasing the I-frame distance to something large (10 seconds or more), because if there's a scene cut (slide change) the encoder should anyway insert a new I-frame
 
@slhck not sure if libvpx-vp9 has support for iframe distance, or whether that's even a tunable parameter in libvpx itself... would have to investigate.
but in any case, it appears that for this specific type of media where you have extremely high contrast and easily compressible, somewhat infrequently-changing video and the audio stream is 100% voice, you can achieve some insane compression ratios with vp9 and opus.
it just took me by surprise that it's really that good
here are the same files, but with 64k aac and slightly more aggressively CRF'ed H264 than the source media: tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/small (those are about a 50% reduction from the source media)
here are the webm masterpieces: tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/tiny
and this is what I originally downloaded from coursera: tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/orig
 
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ r u there?
 
@jokerdino probably
 
@AwalGarg yes
 
my instructor would like to know the codec details of the webms for future uploads.
he is pretty impressed.
is it alright if I give it to him?
But I myself don't know the exact details.
 
2:52 PM
@AwalGarg of course it's ok. pretty sure I linked to this anyway, but here's my ffmpeg command line (this WILL NOT WORK unless you have the very latest versions of libvpx with vp9 enabled, and libopus): tiyukquellmalz.org/awal/orig/encoding_command.txt
pretty sure you could get it built for windows or mac (not sure what OS he's using) but I compressed it on Linux.
but in any case, just downloading "any old random" ffmpeg build is probably not going to work
 
hmm. thanks. can you confirm that the things used in the setup are freely available on major OSes?
I think he is using Windows cus of PP
 
@AwalGarg that's complicated -- ffmpeg, libvpx and libopus should build and run successfully on Windows/Mac/Linux/BSD, but the decoder ffmpeg uses to decode the H264 and AAC source material is patent-encumbered, which means you could get in trouble for distributing a built binary containing that code.
in other words, the codecs used to encode the result into VP9+Opus+WebM are fully Free as in Freedom, not Patent-Encumbered at all, and 100% legally redistributable; but the codecs used to decode your professor's original MP4 files are probably illegal if you distribute them to other people in a compiled build.
you can distribute the source code, of course, but not a build
 
hmm, I would better do it on my own system first on some other vid. Then tell him the process.
 
@AwalGarg building ffmpeg+libvpx+libopus using MinGW64 should be fairly straight-forward
 
ok. actually, he would using it for videos that play inside the browser. And I guess most of the major browsers can easily play them, right?
 
2:59 PM
@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ no prebuilts ?
 
actually, check here: ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds
I haven't tried those builds myself, and I can't guarantee they'll work, but they appear to have libvpx and libopus with the required versions; though I am unsure if the vpx build supports vp9
 
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