@EmilioGort FTFY stackoverflow.com/questions/3653811/…

how do in-memory databases scale (in terms of size of data stored) when the amount of RAM in a machine is limited; cannot be increased?

@MichaelT This is fascinating to me

ibtimes.co.uk/…

@MichaelT that's depressing, it means I'm over the hump of developer ages on SO :(

even if only a little

(30 tomorrow)

my youngest in-law sibling graduated high school this weekend, my second youngest inlaw sibling hit 21 as well, I'm turning 30 and in just over 2 months, I'll have a baby

times be a changin

@MichaelT talk about a creepy graph... that age curve is too perfect, like there's a clear guiding factor of intent causing it rather than any random happenstance.... eesh

@MichaelT the first graph shows how pointless this graph is. It should have been median instead of average because the average on the higher ages are clearly from too-small-sample-pools causing massive skewing from folks like skeet/harvey

@MichaelT the real question is how old is his kid? you may have just suggested his child's going to have children when they're 20, touch rude no? ;P

@MichaelT why do you think I bought the 5D Mark iii?

I even used "baby" as an excuse

@MichaelT shame on you suggesting his kid's going to be popping out children while still a minor

;P

@GlenH7 that's why shotguns were invented

though actually, I'm having a boy, so shotguns have reduced effectiveness

@MichaelT yikes

The reason the bike happens when it does is because people oft won't want to take the risk while they've a kid, so as soon as their kids older and out, then they are fine taking the risk and lord knows they need something to help them enjoy life again after years trying to teach manners to short psychotic humans (aka children). No need for a bike before such experience saps the life out of a person...

@AJHenderson congrats! :D

Personally, I'd rather have a sports car than a bike

How do you really feel about having kids @JimmyHoffa hahaha

@GlenH7 I thought it might be a touch of fun, the mountains up here are brimming with people enjoying cruising the canyons and windy roads and such, is beautiful in the summers they're everywhere here. But won't do it with a kid, and likely not afterwards either, I'm happy hiking to get out (made a nice 5 hour hike around the flatirons Sunday)

@enderland they replace a part of your heart as soon as you have them, so you're completely within your rights to say all manner of terrible thing about them (and rightly so) because no amount of bother by the little cretins or slanderous tongue can contend with the way you feel about them.

@AJHenderson I do miss my BMW... was too small for much so traded up to a nissan rogue right before the lad popped out

@JimmyHoffa yeah, I moved from coupes to a Mazda3 for the extra space

still handles well, but not quite as much zip anymore

@AJHenderson I totalled a mazda 3 before going to a BMW 3 series, loved my Mazda 3 and it was hit by 2 trucks at highway speeds - I was completely fine. Very safe car, would have gotten another one in a heartbeat save for the accident was due to poor traction on ice so I only buy cars with AWD and dynamic stability control now (NHTSA did studies - DSC would prevent 30% of accidents according to an exchaustive study they did)

I almost bought a Mazda 3 hatchback a few years ago

@JimmyHoffa Mazda 3 now has some stability control stuff

we actually ended up getting two. I have the hatchback and my wife has the 4 door

both the 2012 models with the Skyactiv

Skyactiv is what made our decision trivial

only car at the time that was big enough, powerful enough, handled well enough and had high enough fuel efficiency

@AJHenderson not the same without AWD though, AWD means the DSC can change the power to any of the 4 wheels as opposed to any of the 2, still a great car it's just a nervous thing for me after that accident

@JimmyHoffa the braking can work per wheel

you just only have power to two

still not AWD though

but still a big step forward for 2WD

I also haven't had any traction problems using my blizex tires

but I'm a northerner, so I'm used to snow and ice from a lifetime of winters

snow/ice suck. That is the ONLY part of winter I dislike

it could be 0F every day in winter and as long as I didn't have to drive on ice/snow I'd be ok (though it'd get lame without that, so maybe just get all heated roads.... LOL)

@enderland I don't mind driving in snow/ice. I just want it to instantly melt off my car

Yeah, that too

I've been trying and trying and I cannot find a download for the boost.asio library fucking anywhere... EFF YOUUU C++ ARRGGHH

it's not part of this is it? sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.55.0

oh, it is the next version, lol. that's annoying

@enderland I assumed it was, but when I built that it listed the libraries it built and boost.asio isn't amongst them

so I'm wondering if it's in one of the other libraries in there but the documentation for it all just says to include boost headers and doesn't say shit

@JimmyHoffa I saw somewhere it's part of 1.56

think-async.com

that looks like the original for it

but will be included in boost in the next release

!?!? Why does everyone everywhere say you should be using boost.asio for network programming if it's not even a part of boost? Oh right, because they're C++ programmers and they're all touched in the head...

@enderland thankyou! There's the friggin library I've been trying to find everywhere... mumble

Is there a good way to take an html file and basically get the full path to different components? say for example I'm trying to get something like /html/body/form/table[4]/tbody/tr[4]/td[10]

@enderland I hear regexp is great for working with HTML

@enderland can I interest you in a catamorphism? It shouldn't be hard, you just need a monoidic concatenation structure that resolves irrelevant members of the graph to the identity element

Nah I don't think regex could help, I want a way to basically get the xpath for an item based on the html code itself

@enderland I'm actually serious about that catamorphism jag; regardless of using terms that don't make sense, here you want something like this....

var concatenateParent function(currentKnownPath, currentNode) {
    if (typeof(currentNode.Parent) === typeof(undefined)) return currentKnownPath;
    return concatenateParent(currentNode.Name + '/' + currentKnownPath, currentNode.Parent);
}

^-- hand it the node you want the path of, it'll walk up the tree concatenating the names of each elements parent with a / until it gets to a node with no parent, at which point it returns the string it recursively built

not entirely what you want, but the concept stands. You may want a little extra logic so it concatenates a nodes ordinality as well (not sure off hand the function in the DOM to ask it for the ordinal of your current node, but you can do this somehow)

also you may want to actually make your recursion exit scenario based on the node's name being "html" as opposed to it not having a parent as I believe even the html node has a parent and if I'm not mistaken the top level node has itself as it's parent so that recursion may never end

@enderland or are you actually parsing HTML and not inside the context of JavaScript with DOM access?

any general XML tree structure representing the HTML should allow the same such technique mentioned, if you can get your head around that little snippet I wrote.

I'm trying to automate some internet explorer sites which were written in 1995 basically (or something)

they have tons of embedded frames

which means it's a HUGE pain to use the IE object model

even if I know the specific HTML tag for the item it might be buried in like 3 layers of frames

And worse, it's some silly popup frame

@enderland and you are using visual studio's automated UI testing framework for the task, or something else?

no, VBA, which is also the shittiest tool ever for this sort of thing

that's spectacular

@enderland them's the breaks kid. Why you using VBA? Forced by boss/org?

@JimmyHoffa It's part of this access app

If I had more time I should just write my own library basically for "getting objects from stupid HTML websites" to manipulate

@enderland ah. well, does access have any interoperability? Do you have access to visual studio? What version of access?

yes and yes, 2010 right now (I should still have VS 2010 at least? idk)

@enderland I'd write the code in C# then and in Access pull the assembly into the app and use the VBA just to call to that C# bitty (presuming it's modern enough access to have good .NET interoperation)

That's probably the best long term solution for sure...

Just because you need an XML tree structure to really be doing that sort of thing, and I suspect VBA basically has no such thing.

@enderland does VBA have any XML abilities?

I'm not sure, probably no where near as nice as most languages

I didn't think it did is why I mention the above.

@enderland well you'll have to be interoperating with MSXML libraries it looks like. They're not terrible, but it would be much faster to do it in C# where LINQ 2 XML makes doing what you want exceedingly easy, then interoperating with the C# lib would probably be just as easy as interoperating with the MSXML library you'd be using in VBA otherwise

now I know I'm finally getting this asio library built correctly, because I see a bunch of jibberish spamming across my screen and it's slow as fuck. Proof positive I'm compiling some C++ lib

@JimmyHoffa I think I'm going to add that to the "like to have" pile of stuff I've built up... I wish I had time to play with that though :(

Slow day, huh

Really slow day.

hey guys. I am writing a program in c but im having trouble with a while loop. I ask the user to enter a number between 1 through 8 but if the user does not do that I want to program to repeatedly ask for that until the user enters the correct response. But im not able to get it to work if the the user enters letters. It goes into an infinite while loop..

Check your condition in the while. It must converge towards a result that allows you to exit the loop.

but for characters it wont work for some reason

|| should be &&

You probably don't need the if block, unless you're asking for input twice.

oh i see let me fix that

and also this program I want to create will have users entering new data every month so I want it to update some averages. Is there a way to create something that updates and stores the current average?

Of course there is.

what should I look into for that?

You can't write a program that does that?

i have not done anything of that sort. I just done things as far as storing information into a txt document and saves it. But nothing to where it can read newly update information and display it to the user when he or she runs the program again