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12:39 AM
@GonzaloMedina ooh!
 
12:58 AM
@GonzaloMedina Congratulations Gonzalo. Is the party started? :)
 
@HarishKumar Thanks. No, the party will last all day long :)
 
@GonzaloMedina Oh! I am in then :)
 
@HarishKumar Nice! I won't be present much (since I havo to sleep and go to work tomorrow), but you can party on!
 
@GonzaloMedina Certainly!. It is party time and morning for me. Good night Gonzalo.
 
@HarishKumar Good night, Harish.
 
1:25 AM
@GonzaloMedina Congratulations!
 
1:57 AM
@HeikoOberdiek Thanks!
 
 
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4:32 AM
Can some native English speaker please check if my use of "trait" in this answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/177089/3954 is correct? I used "trait" for "trazo" in Spanish, meaning the strokes or lines that form a glyph.
 
 
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7:45 AM
Can I ask for opinions? It's not really a tex-question, but you guys are all very keen on getting details of things right and am sure would have an opinion! I have a lot of figures in my text, simple line graphs and on each figure I have a legend stating which colour line represents what. Both my supervisors want me to add a descriptive legend to all my figure captions stating the same thing. I think this is ridiculous, as it is perfectly clear what is plotted if you look at the figure...
I can't decide whether to waste hours and hours editing all my figure captions or just say it's my thesis, my decision and hope my examiners are more like me in this respect ;-)
 
@FionaSmith I'd say it goes either in the caption or in the plot itself, but not both
 
@JosephWright thank you, at least now I know at least one other person agrees with me ;-) Though I am doing a PhD, I have been working in my field for 14 years - long enough to have realised that a lot of these things come down to personal style, and I already know my style is very different from that of my boss.
 
@FionaSmith Depends :) I would add it only to the caption if you need to give more information about different lines which doesn't fit into the legend.
 
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8:01 AM
@Christoph yes I agree in that case. These plots are pretty simple.
 
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@HarishKumar Thnaks
 
8:25 AM
@JosephWright Hi, may I do a feature request for siunitx here?
As seen in tex.stackexchange.com/q/177100 . It would be cool to have a number-of-grouped-digits = with 3 as default.
would have solved this problem here easily and would be cool to print binomial numbers in groups of four.
e.g. if I calculate with binomial and hexadecimal numbers, I would like to have a 4-grouping for all the binomial numbers.
Just came to my thoughts, when I saw the question. Not in acute need for me... Thank you.
 
@LaRiFaRi I've got a similar request for grouping in twos
@LaRiFaRi One issue is that performance is better if you can hard-code the grouping
 
8:47 AM
@JosephWright Well you could first generate the hard-coded macro :-)
 
@StephanLehmke self modifying code in TeX? terrible practice, who'd do a thing like that
 
@DavidCarlisle I think it would sound better if you called it lambda expressions or second-order coding or something.
 
@GonzaloMedina probably not (unless it's technical typesetting term that I'm not familiar with) I'd use stroke I think
 
@StephanLehmke Yes, in my mind
 
@GonzaloMedina I changed it into “stroke”.
 
8:58 AM
@JosephWright all right. Thank you. Just wanted to bring that to your attention, but if you already have a request on that, you already did your thought on this. Well, not really important. I am not afraid in writing 1101\,0110\,1100 or alike...
 
9:44 AM
Hi! Really one writes, in US English, A and B but A, B, and C ?
 
@tohecz With the 'Oxford comma', yes
 
@JosephWright now I'm confused. Is it really the Oxford comma in US English?
 
@tohecz English grammar and terminology is so clear isn't it
 
@tohecz The US publisher I know best seems to allow it but not require it!
 
@JosephWright ah ok. Even more confusing to me
Together with a user, e.g., tohecz vs a user, e.g. tohecz
 
9:58 AM
@tohecz Indeed
 
@JosephWright Tell me please, does this make any sense in English?
We are grateful to the unknown referee who pointed out mistakes in some of our calculations. Their careful reading of our paper significantly improved the presentation of the results.
 
@tohecz No, it doesn't make sense. Scientists never make mistakes.
 
@StephanLehmke lol :D
 
10:22 AM
@tohecz If there was a genuine mistake, then correcting it should have improved the paper, not just the results.
 
@Jörg it was like: correct result, incorrect calculations
 
@tohecz How did that happen :-)? So maybe it was a typo in the previous presentation of the results?
@tohecz I don't know your field, but "mistake in calculations" sounds pretty bad to me, so I wouldn't highlight it to much.
@egreg I stumbled upon your magic code yesterday because I found the same problem without classicthesis. Do you know if titlesec is supposed to change anything of the layout of the TOC? If not than this is a bug in titlesec.
 
@Jörg The problem is that parts are treated quite differently from chapters, as far as the annotation in the .toc file is concerned. Try it with the standard book class and see.
@Jörg Then put in all the changes classicthesis does, in various layers, and your head will begin to turn.
 
10:44 AM
@egreg Mh, I've tried an MWE with only titlesec and tocloft and standard vs KOMA classes. The only way to ensure that \cftpartpresnum has an effect is with your magic code.
 
@Jörg That's what I found out too. ;-) Why it works, I don't really know. But I'm not really going to investigate more deeply, as I never use parts. ;-)
 
@egreg I'm happy with your magic. I was only interested if that's an (undocumented) incompatibility between the two packages.
 
@Jörg \cftpartpresnum can't work because the entry for a part is \contentsline {part}{I\hspace {1em}First}{1} and has no \numberline.
@Jörg If you load titlesec, then something can be done, but again, with some problems.
@Jörg Here's what I have in my personal class file
%%% For titlesec we do a hack; the usual definition of \ttl@tocpart
%%% expands "\thepage\noexpand\hspace{1em}" and puts it before the
%%% part title; for some strange reason, redefining \ttl@tocpart
%%% without \@gobble{} at the end of the inner definition (any control
%%% sequence seems not to work) produces an endless loop or an
%%% incomplete \ifx
\RequirePackage{titlesec}
\def\ttl@tocpart{%
  \def\ttl@a{\protect\numberline{\thepart}\@gobble{}}}
 
11:12 AM
@egreg Thanks
 
11:40 AM
Doesn't anybody know what can cause Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) has occurred while \output is active ? It's \hbox which surprises me...
ok no worries, it's some my dirty stuff
 
12:02 PM
@tohecz header line usually
 
@DavidCarlisle yep, that's the case here, too
 
@tohecz :-)
 
 
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2:35 PM
@tohecz I would prefer 'anonymous' to 'unknown'. ('unknown' tends to go with 'soldier' at war memorials...) As for pointing out that there were mistakes, I kind of agree with @Jörg.
 
George R.R. Martin Writes Everything In WordStar 4.0 On A DOS Machine

George R.R. Martin is an impressive man. Not only can he kill off characters like it’s NBD, and magically make you care for characters who have been historically evil, but he writes millions of words about an imaginary land without any help from the Internet, spell check, or autocorrect.

The Song Of Ice And Fire author, and creator behind HBO’s “Game of Thrones”, writes everything for the series on a DOS machine using WordStar 4.0 as a word processor.
 
@PauloCereda WordStar was OK, certainly
 
@JosephWright Yep. :)
 
@percusse It's the review queue, I'm afraid
 
@percusse Agreed, the first answer is quite short, but it is an answer IMHO. And the second deletion is too hasty IMHO; probably it can be deleted, when the question is clarified; until then the (non-)answer remains useful. Therefore I have voted to undelete both.
 
@HeikoOberdiek To be honest, I think they are not the best examples of answers but we can be a little laid-back to give some time for the OP to decide. I usually blame the review queue :) Happy trigger-finger behavior is quite tough to resist
 
3:14 PM
@percusse Undeleted
 
3:29 PM
@egreg just looking at the widetable question, the documentation of that package says any glitches are your fault, so you can answer it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Which question?
 
@egreg newest one
 
3:42 PM
@DavidCarlisle fixltx2e.dtx and tabularx.dtx have changed, should I updated latex-tds based on the subversion repository?
 
@HeikoOberdiek Sounds like a good plan: it would be useful if this can make it to the TL2014 DVD, and I think that has to happen asap!
@DavidCarlisle Do you agree?
 
@HeikoOberdiek I was just going to ask about that
@JosephWright yes but we should push the base out to ctan as well:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle We still don't really have a release plan, do we? Life is much easier with expl3
@DavidCarlisle OK, just build the lot?
 
@JosephWright I guess so, if we are updating base and tools and they want whole zip not individual files, doing it all is probably easiest,
 
@DavidCarlisle Shall I do later on or will you?
@DavidCarlisle CTAN prefer full zips, certainly
 
3:52 PM
@JosephWright you can if you like:-) We should probably check Frank is finished
 
@DavidCarlisle Yup
 
@JosephWright I started a message but got distracted by work, will send...
 
@DavidCarlisle Just sent one
 
@JosephWright oh so did I, see if we said same...
@JosephWright snap:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Done.
 
4:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright latex-tds is updated, but I wait until your new release hits CTAN?
 
@HeikoOberdiek yes please I think that's best, or at least wait until we say we have submitted it
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok.
 
is there any body here ... ?
:)
 
@Alji no but you could ask a question anyway
 
how do you learn latex ?
I mean , I just discovered the documentclass exam
and I would like to learn how to use it
 
4:10 PM
Hi
 
do I have to dig somewhere on the net ? or to read the content of exam.cls ?
 
@Alji well there are lots of books and websites with examples or you could ask question son this site. Do you have the tex system installed?
 
I have this warning; how i can eliminate it:
Package geometry Warning: Over-specification in `h'-direction.
`width' (597.50787pt) is ignored.
 
I think so, I have TeXShop on Mac ... so I think it is already installed
 
@Alji no don't read the cls source file (until youve been using tex for a year or two:-)
 
4:12 PM
Do your peers have these skills or expertise?

David Carlisle
Representation Theory
@DavidCarlisle: Yes, they do. :) ^^
 
@Alji Do you also have MacTeX?
 
@Alji texshop may have a shortcut to this but assuming you have texlive installed then texdoc exam should give you a pdf document (114 pages) of typeset documentation for exam.cls
@PauloCereda s/do/did/
 
@DavidCarlisle lalalala can't hear you lalalala
 
texlive is installed on my system with TexShop
I have done on my terminal texdoc exam
 
@JosephWright should I rename readme then you build? (I'm still not 100% confident of the cygwin build)
 
4:17 PM
@Alji From within TeXShop, you can choose "Show Help for Package" from the Help menu. (Or Command-Option-I) Enter exam and it should open up a PDF of the documentation for the exam class.
 
@DavidCarlisle OK
 
@JosephWright Committed revision 307.
 
it worked
thank you guys
you're awsome
 
@DavidCarlisle OK, running all checks and then building
@DavidCarlisle Base and tools to CTAN, right?
 
@Joseph: next arara rule: % arara: build-latex: { profile: release } :)
 
4:22 PM
@DavidCarlisle Or is it base/tools/required?
 
@JosephWright yes
@JosephWright base and required/tools
 
@DavidCarlisle OK
 
@Alji but if you are beginner start with something simpler:
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

hello

\end{document}
 
@DavidCarlisle not that beginner , I can already write report ...
 
@Alji ah OK from your initial question I thought you hadn't used it at all! OK:-)
 
4:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle Revison 307: Then the symbol link REAMDE needs fixing, too.
 
user116900
@JosephWright @PauloCereda Quack!
 
@Alji Just a hint for the future: the TeXShop menu item uses the texdoc command underneath, and although texdoc is quite good at getting you the right documentation, its heuristics sometimes fail, and you get the documentation for something else. When this happens it's useful to use texdoc directly from the terminal, in particular texdoc -l <name-of-package> which will give you a list of possible documents to choose from.
 
@barznjy We had this recently: You probably gave two options which both define paper width.
 
@HeikoOberdiek I guess I'll have to check on this
 
@HeikoOberdiek sorry thought that was local, consistent with base would be to delete it but @JosephWright put it as a link or copy to 00readme.txt
 
4:28 PM
@JasperLoy Hi Jasper! :)
@HeikoOberdiek Sir, you know TeX far beyond the average TeXpert. :)
 
thank you for the hint @AlanMunn
 
@JosephWright @JosephWright sorry see above, I think what we said we'd do would be to delete the READMEs from SVN and just make them appear for CTAN I'll leave it now though unless you want me to tinker...
 
@DavidCarlisle Don't worry, I'll sort this one before doing a build
 
@PauloCereda Did you see this?
 
@JosephWright thanks, are you on windows? what does svn do with the README link in that case?
 
4:31 PM
@AlanMunn Oh my! Yay Buttercup!
 
user116900
@PauloCereda There is no Fedora release this half of the year.
 
@JasperLoy No? I didn't see any note in the mailing list about it.
 
user116900
@PauloCereda F21 will be out 14 Oct.
 
@JasperLoy Oh. I can wait. :)
 
@PauloCereda You can always use Windows in the interim
 
4:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle And emacs. :)
 
@PauloCereda of course
 
@PauloCereda Didn't need TeX expertise at all for detecting a wrong symbol link. An error message from my build script regarding README and a directory listing that automatically highlights wrong symbol links with colors yellow on red was sufficient. :-)
 
user116900
@PauloCereda I still like TeXworks. =)
 
@HeikoOberdiek Sorry about that I saw it was a symbolic link and forgot svn could save those so thought it was part of the local build. Should have checked... (would have noticed a bit later when trying the make ctan target:-)
@JasperLoy It fails the iie test I apply to editors, so I can't use it.
 
user116900
@DavidCarlisle What is iie test?
 
4:38 PM
@JasperLoy is it emacs
 
user116900
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I got it already, lol.
 
stupid wiki markup
 
by the way, I have an screenshot, I would like to ask students to specify the name of every component ... do you have an idea how can I do that ?
 
@Alji you mean insert the image?
 
I know how to insert an image in documentclass exam
I would like to add Numbers like (1)
to some parts of the image
I mean I add the number (1) to the Up of a screenshot and ask the student to give me the name of that component
 
4:45 PM
@Alji ah since ii's as crendump with no internal structure I would use picture
 
Yes, I made a screenshot of a program window
but I need to indicate to the student Component 1 and Component 2
 
\begin{picture}(100,100)\put(0,0){\includegraphics{...}}\put(5,5){(1) name this}\end{picture}
@Alji by adjusting the coordinates you can overlay text over the picture at any place
 
:D
 
@HeikoOberdiek :)
 
@Alji Or if you want to go a little more high-tech (not @DavidCarlisle's style) you can use TikZ:
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4:56 PM
I am still a beginner I prefer to go soft with picture package ;) but thank you any way
 
@Alji good man I feel the same way, and I've only been using LaTeX for 27 years:-)
 
hhh
`\put(20,60){\circle{10}{1}}``
but I need it to be more BOLD
I would like to draw a circle with a number : \put(20,60){\circle{10}{1}}
is there a way to do that inside <Picture>
 
@Alji circle just takes one argument, the radius you want \put(20,60){\circle{10}}\put(20,60){\makebox(0,0){1}}
the \makebox() form horizontally and vertically centres
 
@DavidCarlisle it can take two :D
 
@Alji Don't think so
got to go, bye
 
5:09 PM
@Alji \thicklines does make the lines and circles bolder. Or use pspicture that provides \linethickness; or use even more powerful packages like tikz or pstricks.
 
but I don't know how to use \thicklines
@HeikoOberdiek is there something more powerful than `\thicklines`` ?
 
@Alji Just put it somewhere inside the picture environment, then the lines after \thicklines should be thicker.
@Alji No, unless you continue reading after the first sentence of an answer. ;-)
 
6:06 PM
Gotta love theory, I just wrote a parser with an automata library I wrote the day before. :)
 
6:30 PM
Can somebody help me finding the definition of \part (using scrreprt)?
 
@Jörg You mean the code that starts with \newcommand\part in line 2494 (more or less) of file scrreprt.cls?
 
@HeikoOberdiek Hmpf, yes. I have it open and couldn't find it :-/. It's Notepad++ fault
@HeikoOberdiek Thanks!
 
@Jörg You can also use the handy texdef utility:
Tamandua:~ alan$ latexdef -c scrreprt \part

\part:
\long macro:->\if@openright \cleardoublepage \else \clearpage \fi \thispagestyle {\partpagestyle }\if@twocolumn \onecolumn \@tempswatrue \else \@tempswafalse \fi \partheadstartvskip \vbox to\z@ {\vss \use@preamble {part@o}\strut \par }\vskip -\baselineskip \nobreak \secdef \@part \@spart
 
6:54 PM
Brent.Longborough on May 14, 2014

About 2½ years ago, I uploaded version 1 of gitinfo. Since then, I have received many emails suggesting features and asking for advice, but until now I just hadn’t had the time to act on them. Over the past few days, however, I’ve returned to those emails, and the end result is gitinfo2, which I’ve just submitted to CTAN.

The purpose of gitinfo2, in a nutshell, is to give authors access to (selected) metadata from the git DVCS repository in which they are working on their documents. Through curiously-constructed hooks, git records certain key values when files are checked out, committed, or merged, and gitinfo2 makes those values available as document commands. …

Comments and rocks welcome
 
7:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle README is a text file containing link readme.txt :-)
@DavidCarlisle I guess just delete it?
 
@JosephWright ctan require it, make it a copy (svn delete and then at some point make make ctan copy it)
 
@DavidCarlisle We don't have README in for example the base directory
 
@JosephWright No so I had to beg Robin to make it later on ctan:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah
 
@DavidCarlisle Holy cheating, Batman.
 
7:20 PM
@DavidCarlisle So delete the current README and copy 00readme.txt to README?
 
Oh the other Robin.
 
@JosephWright It's used as part of the GUI to show directory info as you browse
 
@DavidCarlisle I know, but for other stuff I always have the release script do a rename (cf. expl3, siunitx, achemso, ...)
 
@PauloCereda same one, that was his pre-ctan work
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh!
 
7:21 PM
@JosephWright well for 2e they used to be in svn but "we" (collective responsibility) svn removed one copy without making the build script duplicate it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah
@DavidCarlisle Running make script now, then will check on situation
 
@JosephWright thanks
 
@DavidCarlisle Hopefully will finish Lua scripts for L3 this week: they should be a lot clearer and easier to adapt!
 
@DavidCarlisle: ^^
 
7:41 PM
@PauloCereda waste of space:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I see what you did there. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm going with some manual work this time: script should get fixed properly for the next release
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@egreg Thanks.
 
@JosephWright yes I assumed that was the plan
 
@DavidCarlisle I suggest for the next release we sort this a bit before the deadllne :-)
 
7:43 PM
@Joseph: scripting of speaking (ouch), I liked your code very much. :) Little I can do to improve it, only aesthetic aspects. Maybe you/we could evolve it into a proper build library in the future. :)
 
@JosephWright well we'll use the lua scripts and blame you if they go wrong
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't know why "trait" was fixed in my brain as the right word at the time I wrote the answer, although it began to sound suspicious immediately after. Thanks.
 
@PauloCereda V2 is nearly done: really do hope to check in by the weekend at the latest
@DavidCarlisle Likely
@DavidCarlisle Batch script is based heavily on my one
 
@JosephWright Any public repo I can contribute to?
 
/Wonders How did I end up writing LaTeX2e kernel release scripts?
 
7:44 PM
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle so it's already Joseph's fault. :)
 
@PauloCereda Will go into the L3 SVN 'real soon now': just have a few loose ends to attend to
 
@JosephWright In the old days I think dante ctan and the latex master sources were Rainer's machine and we didn't really "submit" to ctan, stuff just got there:-)
 
@JosephWright SVN... I need to open my old books. :)
 
@PauloCereda Don't worry, mirrors to GitHub
 
@DavidCarlisle rsync/scp? :)
@JosephWright Ah cool. I could associate it to dandelion.
 
7:46 PM
By the way, now that the hangover from the 200K rep. is over, I wanna express my gratitude to all the members of this great community. Hanging around here has taught me a lot about (La)TeX.
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@DavidCarlisle Still are, I suspect (core Dante node is comedy)
 
@GonzaloMedina Friendship matters. :) We are here because we care about each other. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm just here for the badges
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@DavidCarlisle I was expecting something amusing from you. :)
 
@HeikoOberdiek Sending update to CTAN now
 
8:03 PM
@GonzaloMedina We all thank you for your work on the site!
 
8:14 PM
I'm thinking to ban somebody from the site. ;-)
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@egreg I did suggest to Brent that perhaps the image was taken from one of your papers
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, most likely. :P
 
Evening! I think I need some English help again :(
"We are grateful to the unknown referee who pointed out mistakes in some of our calculations." -- I'm looking for a softer word in place of "mistakes".
 
8:37 PM
Hi @Brent!
 
@tohecz Hi! "approximations"?
 
@Brent.Longborough Like "We are grateful to the unknown referee who pointed out approximations in some of our calculations." ? Probably not. It's maths/TCS, the calculations are precise.
It's really just that it sounds too bad to confess you made a mistake
 
@tohecz flaws? :)
 
I thought of "disagreements"
@PauloCereda bugs :D
 
@tohecz features. :)
 
8:38 PM
Inconsistencies?
 
poetic licence
 
"instances of unfulfilled xxx"?
 
@Brent: Gonzalo suggested a cup of aguapanela. I did some research and I'm pretty sure is xarope de rapadura! :)
 
@Brent.Longborough (I'm not a native speakers obviously) In Czech, "inconsistencies" wouldn't be used in this context. But maybe in English it's fine. The case is like that the minimal admissible $c$ is $3$ and we chose $c=2$, but the result was correct nonetheless
 
oversights?
 
8:41 PM
@tohecz Sorry, mistake looks like the best word. Ham on...
 
@Brent.Longborough yep, but that really looks bad in article acknowledgements :(
 
@tohecz Aha! "Errata" !!! I rest my case
 
@tohecz I would use errors myself... I might even say "minor errors" if it didn't affect the result. "Mistakes" sounds a little informal to me
 
@FionaSmith error sounds good
 
have been lurking on here all day, glad to have finally contributed!
 
8:44 PM
@FionaSmith Doesn't "error" introduce a stastical flavour?
 
@FionaSmith mistake is fine in math text
 
How about misprint?
 
@Brent.Longborough error 404 page not found ?
@Brent.Longborough that's unfortunately not the case. We were really wrong
 
Why not formulate more positively: "We are grateful to the unknown referee who helped to make some of our calculations more precise".
 
@StephanLehmke Nice
@tohecz I've only just uploaded it to the CTAN kitchen
 
8:45 PM
@StephanLehmke "more correct"? And certainly that sounds much better, because it points out the active contribution of the referee, and is really positive
maybe "... who helped to correct some of our calculations"
 
@FionaSmith waiting for @PauloCereda to post the cricket scores?
 
@tohecz I don't really think there is "more correct" or "less correct"; that's binary.
 
@tohecz excellent : "who provided more correct versions of ..."
 
@tohecz That's an alternative I was going to suggest.
 
"... who improved the accuracy of ..."
 
8:47 PM
@StephanLehmke 1
 
@StephanLehmke ok. I think it sounds best to me. Thanks all for help. ArXiv sees the paper finally!
 
Or just be honest: "... who spotted a glaring mistake in ..."
 
@Brent.Longborough In that case you really need to include "unknown referee" in the authors list.
 
btw, shouldn't there be a comma before "who"?
 
8:48 PM
@tohecz I like Stephan's suggestion. I agree, "mistake" is not wrong, I just think it sounds a bit "whoops! I am an idiot" - if I go to my boss after finding something wrong with a calculation, I say "there was an error in my code" not "I made a mistake"
 
@Brent.Longborough or more honest: "... who decided to be a jerk and spoiled my evening by spotting a typo in which wouldn't make a goddam difference in the whole paper context..."
:)
 
@tohecz Depends if there was one unknoen or several
 
@Brent.Longborough one only
 
@DavidCarlisle am I missing something?
 
@tohecz needs a comma, then
@FionaSmith Depends if you're a vi user
 
8:50 PM
@Brent.Longborough Wow that's new to me.
 
@StephanLehmke not quite, at least in my branch of study. It's quite common that referees improve the paper texts significantly. We've been rewriting only like 3 pages from the scratch, sometimes it's the whole paper. Even proofs sometimes originate in the refereee
@StephanLehmke Definition => no comma. Property => comma.
 
@FionaSmith sorry, long running joke in this chat room but @Paulo has an intense interest in cricket (especially Indian league) not usual in Brazil:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I do?
:)
 
@tohecz Don't know any grammar at all.
 
"who helped to correct" or "who helped us to correct" ?
@StephanLehmke really? I do know a lot, but that's probably because I like grammar as a concept :p
 
8:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle I was thinking that surely we couldn't be playing Brazil in the cricket - indeed, nope, just Surrey beating Gloucestershire... and I can't get excited about that!
 
@tohecz #4, or "who helped correct"
 
@PauloCereda well now who went to the trouble of writing a bot to automate the posting of cricket scores into chat....
 
@Brent.Longborough I would have never written that :p but you seem to know what you say
 
@tohecz sorry, #2
 
@tohecz I think you are worrying about this too much!
 
8:53 PM
@tohecz Dude, this is becoming a semidecidable problem. :)
 
@PauloCereda LOL
 
@Brent.Longborough sorry, again, I seem to be missing something. what does vi have to do with the price of fish?
 
!!/cricket
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last cricket results:

- Derbyshire 118/10 &  106 * v Kent 235/6
- Hampshire 68/4 &  345/10 * v Glamorgan 224/10 &  187/10
- Middlesex 31 &  459/8 * v Lancashire 266/10 &  223/10
- Nottinghamshire 409/8  v Northamptonshire 248/10 &  151/10 *
- Surrey 267/6 &  132/10 * v Gloucestershire 168/10 &  230/10
- Sussex 505/9  v Durham 451/7 *
- Cambridge MCCU 92/2 &  231/10 * v Worcestershire 303/8 &  191/4
- Kolkata T20 142/4  v Mumbai T20 141/5
 
@FionaSmith see ^^^
 
well, the referee seems to be a native speaker. I can imagine he'll again correct our English, but probably not in this sentence :)
 
8:54 PM
@JosephWright Re: When we were talking about Travis CI usage with Lua: I have a working minimal setup :) travis-ci.org/vermiculus/test testing github.com/vermiculus/test
 
@PauloCereda Ah, das Untscheidungsproblem
 
@PauloCereda surely, surely you cannot be excited about that lot???
 
@FionaSmith Not much, it just gets @DavidCarlisle going...
 
@tohecz Yea my thesis adviser was like this. He didn't speak English, he constructed it from a production system based on his English textbook (published in GDR).
 
@Brent.Longborough @DavidCarlisle I clearly need to lurk around here more often - there is a lot of in-humour!
 
8:56 PM
@Brent.Longborough LOL when you have time, poke me at Skype, I have a great story about that. :P
 
@StephanLehmke lol
 
!!/eightball should @FionaSmith be more excited by Paulo's cricket scores?
 
!!/fortune
@DavidCarlisle **Psmith, the TeX bot:** The great *8-ball* says: never in a million years.
@PauloCereda **Psmith, the TeX bot:** Here is your fortune: Watch out for low flying ducks.
 
Since Psmith seems active,
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 215 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
8:57 PM
@PauloCereda you gotta remove the stars for multi-line comments. Or try to use <br/> the <br> HTML tag instead?
 
@tohecz it's because two messages were sent at the almost same timestamp, then the chat put them together. Not my fault. :(
 
@PauloCereda I was just writing with the same explanation but opposite conclusion
 
@PauloCereda Include a lag then.
 
@PauloCereda Either include a lag as @Stephan suggests, or wait a second and join them manually
 
!!/eightball are coding errors in Psmith Paulo's fault?
 
9:02 PM
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: signs point to yes.
 
@PauloCereda ^^^
 
@DavidCarlisle @Paulo that bot starts to be dangerous
 
I wish you all a goodnight (or pleasant evening)... I am off to study the cricket scores, er... I mean go to bed.
 
@FionaSmith night:-)
 
@FionaSmith Good night!
 
9:11 PM
@FionaSmith night!
 
9:26 PM
Did you know that you need to upload the .out file to arXiv in order to get the PDF ToC right?
^^ Sorry, corrigendum: Did you know that you can't get the PDF ToC right?
 
9:47 PM
@tohecz Package bookmark might help, it reduces the number of required LaTeX runs; see also tex.stackexchange.com/q/129465/16967
@JosephWright I will upload tomorrow morning, after LaTeX2e is updated on CTAN.
 
@HeikoOberdiek I think that the problem is that arXiv does not recognize the .out file at all. I could try filecontents. Or just ignore it :p
anyways, goodnight!
 
!!/ctan
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last CTAN news:

- CTAN Update: hausarbeit-jura (Wed May 14 15:51:06 BRT 2014)
- CTAN Update: modiagram (Wed May 14 14:22:34 BRT 2014)
- CTAN update: xetexko (Tue May 13 14:00:29 BRT 2014)
- CTAN update: eledmac-eledpar (Sun May 11 11:20:11 BRT 2014)
- CTAN update: xkeyval (Sun May 11 01:21:07 BRT 2014)
- New on CTAN: docbytex (Sat May 10 17:16:46 BRT 2014)
- CTAN Update: latex tools release (keyval update) (Sat May 10 07:24:28 BRT 2014)
 
@tohecz Package bookmark does not use a .out file, just the .aux file.
 
I am on mobile. :)
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Someone will invite you to a Karaoke party.
 
@HeikoOberdiek ah ok, thanks. Will try with my next arXiv submission.
bye!
 
9:59 PM
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Stop procrastinating.
Oh.
 
10:26 PM
@PauloCereda The CTAN managers are living in European time zones, thus I expect that they put the updated LaTeX in the morning to CTAN.
 
11:00 PM
@HeikoOberdiek all sensible people in Europe being in bed by now? :-) (Thanks for doing that again)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have my own "time zone" ;-) And you can't sleep, because you have to answer 16 year old bug reports?
 
@HeikoOberdiek something like that
 
11:44 PM
@HeikoOberdiek Cool. :)
 

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