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6:05 PM
@KitFox: re your 5 start link. That made me all depressed last week because it wasn't funny because it there's no parody because it is 'how things really are'.
Also, I blew a half hour looking through the rest. None of which were as good.
 
Sorry, man.
If it's any consolation, I feel terrible today.
I'm looking at nice titties to cheer myself up.
 
scribbles down new excuse-line
 
SCAM ALERT. If a man comes to your front door and asks you to show him your breasts, do not show him your breasts. This is a scam and he actually wants you to show him your breasts.
 
I can't believe I fell for that one.
 
Jez
i really wish i could believe Sam Harris wasn't playing some big practical joke on everyone with the meditation thing
but when i concentrate on my breath for a while... i just feel like me, concentrating on my breath
i've conducted his meditation experiment in my own mind and got no positive results... unless you say it has to be for days, or weeks, or something
and that's the trouble with meditation. with weight training, there are guaranteed results. with meditation, one is told that one can have an "epiphany" after days, weeks, or maybe never. so it sure feels like a waste of time.
i'd find it easier to tame the shrew than the mind
 
6:22 PM
You shouldn't worry about having an epiphany.
That's like focusing on orgasm instead of the whole experience.
 
Jez
interesting analogy. do i focus on orgasm? hmm
yeah probably not totally
then again we orgasm a lot easier than women
so there's less time to focus on much else
 
Maybe you do, but you can't really make that generalization.
 
Jez
oh yes i can!
 
Well, you did, but that doesn't make it true.
 
Jez
there. Yahoo! answers confirms it.
i never quite understood how sex works between normal people
men usually orgasm after like 2 mins (i'm NOT the exception for once), yet women take 10-20 mins
 
6:27 PM
"Two minutes after penetration" seems to indicate that this person is extremely limited in their perception of sexual experience.
 
Jez
as i've never been in a proper relationship, i have to ask.... how does that work? does the woman always just finish herself off? synchronous orgasms seem unlikely
 
Women are fast ime.
 
Synchronous orgasms are possible, but highly romanticized in fiction.
 
Jez
yeah, so again, what actually happens?
 
And my feeling is that it's the guy's job to finish her off.
 
Jez
6:29 PM
with what? a vibrator?
 
It's rude to ejaculate in someone and be all like "thanks, got my rocks off, have fun with your fingers" snore
@Jez With whatever.
 
Jez
they'd probably prefer doing it themselves with a vibrator anyway
 
It's supposed to be something you do together, not something you do to her.
 
Jez
tell human biology that.
 
You can make it work, you just can't be lazy.
 
6:31 PM
@Jez don't worry about that imo
 
Vibrators are meh.
 
Jez
oh i'm not in a situation where i'm going to need to worry about that.
 
2 mins ago, by KitFox
And my feeling is that it's the guy's job to finish her off.
^ reads lazy to me
 
Most women I know who prefer men also prefer the real thing.
@JohanLarsson Oh so? So I'm supposed to get my partner off and then myself? I have to do all the work?
That's lazy to you?
 
Jez
and you wonder why we masturbate.
 
6:32 PM
@JohanLarsson Why? I prefer her getting off than me, honestly
 
You make it sound like work
 
52 mins ago, by KitFox
I can almost feel empathy for men, but then it just turns into eye-rolling.
 
Jez
@oerkelens wtf? i don't.
 
Doo-do-doo, I'll just see what chat is up to.
Oh, okay. I'll just check back in a hour or so.
 
@Jez Then we would make a nice couple :D If you'd be a woman
 
6:33 PM
ha
 
@KitFox I don;t know why you would even try :)
 
Jez
@KitFox by the way where were you looking at pictures of boobs?
i have a research paper i need to write on the topic
 
@oerkelens Maybe I'm skilled but I highly doubt it, that part is not often a problem ime.
 
@Jez I was watching an ASMR video.
 
Jez
which?
 
6:35 PM
 
Jez
they're quite well hidden there
 
@JohanLarsson I realize I may have phrased that awkwardly. I mean I find my partner getting off is more important than me getting off.
 
You should both be having fun.
That's part of the fun.
 
I kind of regret entering this discussion with name and pic :)
 
Jez
@KitFox unless your partner is just eye-rolling
 
6:38 PM
eye-rolling means bored?
 
more like patronizing exasperation.
 
oh, answering with huge words !ty :D
 
I don't know how else to describe it.
 
Jez
"look at you down there, trying to get a superior woman to orgasm. puny man."
 
I googled it
 
6:41 PM
@Jez Plenty of guys would love that :)
 
@Jez If that happens just fire up your editor of choice and write some code imo. (Instantly)
 
Jez
code?
 
It's the feeling you get when someone has been "gimmegimmegimme" and you give, and they roll over and fall asleep, forgetting your name if they ever knew it, because you are unimportant, only the thing they wanted was important.
 
yeah or whatever, just stop if you see that. It is not common, I can assure you that.
 
Jez
@KitFox oh well. maybe it's not as bad as the feeling that no woman gives a shit about you.
 
6:42 PM
It's probably pretty close to the same.
 
Jez
and that it's all your job to make them give a shit
an almost Christian level of wretched
 
the game is painful an humiliating for a man
never seen that kind of bs in bed though
 
Jez
nor have i... for a different reason
 
@JohanLarsson Things are a lot easier when your parents provide you with a 15-year old bride who has no say in the matter, surely.
 
Jez
@KitFox you should have some sympathy, though. you should imagine yourself being a relatively unattractive female, and getting zero attention. you should also imagine yourself lacking confidence, and feeling that no men are ever interested, nor being able to get anywhere. imagine how you might feel about men in general, especially if any time you brought it up, people wished you'd just shut up.
 
6:46 PM
But I am not sure that is better for all involved :)
 
Jez
@KitFox i can imagine the relatively opposite situation
 
@oerkelens how do you mean?
 
@Jez Yeah, of course. I felt that way most of my adult life, and still do sometimes.
 
@JohanLarsson It makes the game very easy on th eman, but hard on the woman...
 
Jez
@KitFox how can you, with a partner?
 
6:47 PM
@oerkelens oh, sure that is not nice either, not at all.
 
Jez
and, really? you got no male attention?
or was it "the wrong kind"? i'm talking NO attention.
 
@Jez How can you? You are relatively attractive, you have good qualities, but you don't believe these things about yourself.
 
@JohanLarsson It is the most common way the game is playes though, more or less in th eworld.
 
Jez
i'd take "the wrong kind" in a heartbeat
 
Be careful what you complain about :)
 
6:47 PM
I read somewhere that arranged marriages turned out good a high % of the time. Don't remember the source and no idea if it is correct.
 
Jez
@KitFox how can i what?
 
@JohanLarsson Yeah, there was a study. I remember it. The theory was that the expectations were different, and so they were more successful at working things out.
 
@JohanLarsson Yeah, if you don;t know any better and are convinced that complaining will shame your family, you are relatively likely to say it;s great.
 
Jez
@KitFox and I do somewhat believe those things. i just have a deep-seated irrational fear of trying to use them, lest i am ever ridiculed.
 
@Jez How can you feel that way? Same way I can feel that way. It's something that most people have in common.
 
6:49 PM
@KitFox Working things out because you have to, can lead to a nice luke-warm situation, It sure is better than some marriages
 
Evidence to the contrary doesn't matter when it's something you feel.
 
@Jez What is your strategy in the game?
 
Jez
@KitFox i can feel that way because my life actually reflects that reality?
@JohanLarsson i don't play the game.
i gave up
 
Nah, you know what, I'm not running in this circle again.
 
Jez
heh
 
6:50 PM
@Jez But you want to win, do you have account on some online dating thing?
 
Jez
yup.
 
@KitFox This is what I hope to be someday: "relatively" attractive.
 
@KitFox Maybe, but building things on raw attraction is a pretty weak foundation. Sure it is perfect for the first two weeks but after that it is pretty meh.
 
The last time we went over this, I think we determined that Jez is deeply self-defeating. And by "we", I mean to include Jez in that.
And by "I think" I mean, that's my recollection.
But I might be wrong.
 
googling self-defeating
 
6:52 PM
What? You have to google that?
 
@Robusto I was reflecting his wording.
 
Relatively attractive is better than marginally attractive.
But any qualifier kind of casts doubt on the adjective.
 
Jez
@JohanLarsson well, btw. turned out well.
 
@Robusto I don't know all this relation-lingo :)
 
Jez
@KitFox i feel like it's more "self-defeated"
 
6:53 PM
@JohanLarsson Self-defeating isn't always about relationships.
 
Jez
"defeating" implies that i'm constantly blocking my chances of success
 
@Jez OK, that's fair.
Like I said, I might be misremembering.
 
OK, programmers: what's 9*F? First to answer correctly gets a star!
 
@Jez ty sir. Never hesitate to correct my broken English if you have the time.
 
What if it's broken beyond repair?
 
6:55 PM
144?
 
buzzer Nope.
 
Jez
@JohanLarsson you're nothing like the Danish programmer guy i used to work in the same company with (and whose whinging probably got me fired). he hated my correcting his English :-)
even when it was egregiously crap
 
Nobody knows their hexadecimal times tables? Geez.
 
E0?
 
Jez
6:56 PM
87
2
windows calc says
 
135 (base 10)
 
I think my English gets even worse over time.
 
@Matt!
 
Well done, @Jez.
 
6:57 PM
How is your happy break?
 
my desktop has died
 
Nooo!
 
but my break is going well :)
 
Jez
@MattЭллен my winxp machine died a day or two ago
 
Wait, do you mean computer?
 
Jez
6:57 PM
yours isn't winxp is it?
 
@MattЭллен We didn't even know it was sick.
 
@KitFox yes. my home machine
 
Not the top of your desk?
 
@Robusto nor did I, it came on quickly
@KitFox no, that's still intact. :D
 
@MattЭллен Or rather, it didn't.
 
6:57 PM
@Jez Once Microsoft drops support for an OS, that's that.
 
@KitFox yeah
 
Jez
@Robusto well it does seem like an odd coincidence. a couple of days after officiial support dropped, the thing just reset suddenly. it wouldn't boot, reset before the desktop came up
after a brief bluescreen about some windows subsystem error
 
That was the final update.
 
I think the motherboard and cpu are fine, but at least one of the DIMMs is fucked and the graphics card has stopped graphicing
 
Jez
luckily, a "boot from last known good configuration" fixed it... this time
 
6:58 PM
The big middle-finger from Redmond.
 
Jez
but it looks like there was bigtime registry corruptuon
 
Well, how old was the computer?
 
@Cerberus How is your xp?
 
So here is my dilemma. If I stop working right now, my MiL will leave and I will have to take care of the kids.
 
Jez
@Robusto the hardware should be fine, i put it together a few months ago
 
6:59 PM
But I don't want to keep working.
 
Wow, that's a lot of corruption for a few months.
 
Jez
@KitFox whats wrong with the kids?
 
@KitFox but you MiL will leave...
 
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A: "I'm sure" vs. "I'm for sure": Who uses which, and when?

RamonaI Googled this question as I too am often hearing people say “I’m, not for sure”. I am a 56 year old African American female from the South and I do not believe people speaking this way lends to their race, age or region. I simply think it is a lack of grammatical knowledge. I also agree that ...

Comment? Feels like a comment.
 
is I'm for sure a thing?
 
Jez
7:01 PM
why have i suddenly got this headache-inducing neck pain? time for some paracetemol
 
I agree that I perceive that as a Southern dialect.
 
@JohanLarsson Yes. Mostly in the negative.
 
Jez
that doesn't make grammatical sense. what part does the "for" play?
no pun intended
 
I said nuttin'
 
For sure.
It's a thing you say.
Like "sure thing".
Yeah, man, for sure.
Absolutely.
 
7:05 PM
"I am, for sure"?
like "I am, definitely"?
 
Jez
@KitFox yeah but not with an I'm
 
Are y'all hungry?
Yeah, I am for sure!
 
I'm not sure = I'm not for sure. It's a dialect difference.
And anyway, it's I ain't for sure.
 
Jez
oh, you know the worst thing? when southern USians say "how are y'all doing?" and they're talking to ONE PERSON
 
Y'all is singular.
 
Jez
7:06 PM
at least use "y'all" to refer to multiple people. then it could be useful!
really? that's dumb
 
All y'all is plural.
 
@KitFox Y'all is plural.
 
It's not actually singular, it's just as generic as you.
 
All y'all is emphatic plural.
I think the line may be blurred.
 
Jez
@KitFox it's a shame they took slang that could actually be useful and fucked it up
 
7:07 PM
The joke is that all y'all is plural.
And most Southerners I know use 'ya' and not 'y'all' for the singular.
 
But in the sentence "Where y'all goin'?" it's pretty certainly plural. Singular would be "Where ya goin'?"
 
Jez
yeah, i heard a "how's y'all doing?" spoken to ONE man on the US X Factor
sounded ridiculous
y'all should mean "all of you people"
 
A guy I worked with from Birmingham, Alabama used to get incensed if I would use "y'all" when talking to him individually.
 
@Jez Perhaps some parts of the man didn't seem to be doing fine.
 
Maybe the trailer trash in North Carolina have a different usage than the trailer trash in Alabama. You never know.
 
7:09 PM
No, I was talking about Carolina.
 
@Robusto with good reason, you treated him like an array.
 
My bad.
 
Jez
me[1] is ok, but me[5] has problems
 
yea would be God otherwise :)
 
Lower-case god.
 
7:11 PM
@Jez Dissociative identity disorder?
 
Jez
it's a bit like people who use "yourself" unnecessarily. "i'll send that to yourself in 5 minutes"... well i'm sure my self will like it.
 
They usually use it about themselves: "I would like you to forward it to myself" instead of "I would like you to forward it to me."
But the Irish use "himself" when they mean "him" all the time. "There's himself standing at the gate just now."
 
Jez
@Robusto i get recruiters here using it with "yourself", "ourselves", "themselves"
 
Are there habitual 'control group' participants in medical experiments?
 
@Jez Well . . . I mean . . . recruiters.
@GlenTheUdderboat Maybe. Why would we know that here?
 
7:13 PM
@Robusto Why not?
 
I asked you first.
 
@Robusto Yes, but I wonder why.
 
Why I asked?
 
@GlenTheUdderboat What do you mean?
 
Why didn't you ask me second?
 
7:15 PM
@KitFox North Carolina is a Carolina.
 
@Robusto Yes.
 
@Robusto Really? Together they are the Carolinas? (Asking.)
 
BTW, is it possible to have trailer trash in Maine? I think so, but I haven't done any experiments.
 
I was saying that most of the Southerners I know use "ya" and not "y'all" for singular, and that means Carolina because those are the Southerners I know.
@Robusto We have lots.
 
But no Waffle Houses?
 
7:17 PM
@GlenTheUdderboat The Carolinas. Carolina is usually North Carolina.
 
No Jimmy Dean restaurants?
 
@Robusto I think we have one now, actually.
 
How can you have proper trailer trash without those things?
 
You just need trailers and trash to have trailer trash.
 
makes notes
 
7:18 PM
Cheetos and wine in boxes and Impalas.
 
Didn't the US Masters somehow end up in a waffle house this year?
Is Bubba Watson of trailer trash descent?
 
@KitFox Bulk Cheet-ohs like the kind they get at Wal-Mart.
@GlenTheUdderboat His name's Bubba. I rest my case.
 
Yep.
 
Deacons of the Episcopal Church are almost never named Bubba.
 
Jez
yep definitely paracetemol and bath i think
 
7:20 PM
@Jez Careful with your liver, taking paracetamol.
 
Jez
depends how much you take
1000mg shouldnt be too bad
 
But careful with alcohol while taking that. Just sayin'.
 
@Jez Sounds like a great idea.
 
Jez
just wish i didnt have to wait a week for this interview feedback. i actually quite liked the working environment at this place; quiet
no stupid radio on in the background
 
hot chicks walking by
 
Jez
7:24 PM
true, true
but averting one's gaze and masturbating later is at least manageable
dealing with constant noise pollution isnt, for me
 
@Jez You don't like your noise polluted?
 
Hot chicks walking by is a feature, not a bug.
 
Very close to a star, still thinking...
 
Jez
@Robusto not if you want to concentrate
 
@Jez Concentration is overrated. Especially if it's not on hot chicks.
 
Jez
7:28 PM
easy to say, hard to use as justification to a boss as to why they ought to pay you a wage
 
Hey, it was his idea to have hot chicks walking by.
 
@Jez Depends. Are you a hot chick?
 
Jez
erm, no
 
Jasper channeled us talking about hot chicks.
 
Jez
that was my thought
 
7:30 PM
BTW, isn't 'hot chick' unbelievably old-fashioned speak?
 
Jez
no
 
It is unbelievably current.
 
Jez
although feminazis might complain
 
@Jez First occurrence? 1867?
 
Jez
afk, bath
 
7:33 PM
@GlenTheUdderboat First occurrence of "occurrence": 1530s. So you are using unbelievablier older-fashioned speak.
 
shit.
My outlook is broken.
 
"First" is even older than that.
Shut up, @KitSox. Nobody cares about your stupid outlook.
 
You could be nicer.
 
Actually I couldn't. Besides, KitSox is just a bot. No feelings.
I discriminate against bots.
!!define KitSox
 
@Robusto It means I ain't got time to learn your $5 words
 
7:35 PM
@Robusto Anti-botulism?
 
Mmmm, no.
 
first occurrence of Oxford University is possibly 1096, and people still use that
 
Bots as in ro.
 
My Outlook is all messed up.
It's telling me to run a tool that I don't appear to have.
 
@MattЭллен When do you actually use it? I mean, as opposed to talking about it or reacting to it?
@KitFox Oh, you poor thing! wrings hands
 
7:36 PM
Hi @Matt!
 
@Robusto personally, I don't. other people use it to learn stuff or wevs
 
@KitFox Do you really use KitSox as a sock puppet?
 
@Robusto Thank you, but I have a considerable amount of income dependent on this stupid client working.
 
as in they use the buildings
 
@MattЭллен But you are close enough to drive there and, like, use it like a three-dollar whore, am I wrong?
 
7:37 PM
@Robusto you are right
 
There we go.
 
So, which is the oldest word? Is it 'no'?
 
if it were as cheap as a three dollar whore, I would use it
 
@Robusto I created that account specifically for the bot, yes.
 
@MattЭллен Haha. And here I figured you for a Balliol College man. Don't they only use two-dollar whores?
@KitFox But was that you triggering the "outlook is broken" complaint as uttered by KitSox?
 
7:39 PM
@Robusto heh. I would like to be an alumnus. I would sound good.
 
@Robusto Yes. I typed into the wrong window.
 
Just tell me to talk to the hand if you don't want to bother with it.
 
@KitFox what is it asking you to run?
 
scanpst.exe
I'm downloading some updates.
Maybe that will fix it.
 
@JohanLarsson Great, as always!
 
7:40 PM
See? I'm doing it again already.
I feel sad today.
 
@KitFox have you seen this?
@KitFox what's troubling you?
 
Wait. FF/F = 11 and 100/F = 11. And FF+1 = 100. How can this be?
 
@MattЭллен I had a bad morning meeting and everything feels wrong.
I can't do stuff today. I need to stop listening to people.
 
Aww, there there. Go to your happy place.
 
Also, this guy is working really hard to get the department to hate me.
 
7:42 PM
I mean that not sarcastically, btw.
 
And I never did anything to him.
 
It's called politics.
 
@KitFox what a dick
 
@Robusto But why me? I'm low man on the totem pole.
In the common usage, not the actual way.
 
That's why.
As much of a reason as any.
 
7:43 PM
Ubuntu 14.04 will be out in less than 24 hours, get ready to download!
 
I fell afoul of a lifer at my last company when I schooled him on shit he should have already known — like that braces don't create scope in JavaScript.
 
> To start the Inbox Repair tool manually, locate one of the folders by using Microsoft Windows Explorer, and then double-click the Scanpst.exe file.
Which would be where exactly?
 
And that you shouldn't monkey-patch native data objects with "convenience" methods. That way lies madness.
 
@KitFox search for it?
 
Can you search for scanpst.exe?
 
7:45 PM
@Robusto oh my god, you're joking.
 
@KitFox I saw a list on the page. you have to expand the "run it manually" bit
 
@Robusto I did. I don't have it.
 
I tried many registry fixers for Windows and they all had weird effects. I concluded that I should not use any registry fixer in future
 
unexpected star
 
I'm sorry. Let me be more specific. I will feel better if I can complain and gripe and have things not work right now. I do appreciate that you are trying to help though.
 
7:47 PM
If you can't find it you could try to reinstall the tool, whatever it is
The executable is usually under Programs --> Inbox Repair -->
 
@KitFox yeah. outlook is stupid
 
@MattЭллен Outlook now refers to both the email client and the email service outlook.com
 
I'm going to reboot and see if that magically fixes it.
 
@KitFox A reboot is at least guaranteed to magically fix the uptime.
 
So the 3-in-1 soya bean here is a dessert that has soya milk, soya bean curd, and peanut dumplings all together
LOL I didn't know medica casts so many downvotes
 
7:54 PM
Do you like the dessert?
 
Yes. I also like strawberry milk ice
It has strawberries, sweetened milk and strawberry flavouring on top of shaved ice
 
swears profusely
 
Shaved ice, is that just shaved frozen water?
@KitFox I'm banning you!!
 
I am not sure if shaved is the right adjective, yes water
 
@Cerberus yes
 
7:56 PM
The most vulgar word to me is m*****f*****.
 
@WillHunting shaved is the right adjective :)
 
@Cerberus You can't. Mod for life, baby.
 
@MattЭллен Do you like yours shaved or hairy? LOL
 
Yeah shaved is right, I was just wondering about the water.
Why would you want to eat regular water ice?
 
@WillHunting I don't like hairy ice!
 
7:58 PM
@KitFox I am not your baby. ban
 
@Cerberus like an unflavoured slush puppy?
 
I was wondering if Matt liked shaved or hairy.
 
First the ice helps to lower the temperature. Second as the ice melts it creates a nice mixture with the other ingredients for you to eat/drink
 
I did find the document that told me where the tool was.
 
@KitFox Each is nice in its own way
 
7:59 PM
@KitFox yay!
 
I don't know why my search was fruitless.
 
@MattЭллен Slush puppy?
That doesn't sound right.
 

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