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2:00 AM
God I hate dealing with this company.
> Whether, internally, you need to handle this as a feature request or as a support issue or whether you need tickets filled out on carbon paper and submitted via carrier pigeon, I trust you will know how to handle it. I'm not going to fill out any more tickets, nor am I going to re-submit this report on some other forum. I've learned from experience that down that road lies madness.
 
 
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3:09 AM
oh god
I want to write a paper
"cPanel considered harmful"
 
 
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5:37 AM
 
 
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8:04 AM
@ScottPack Oh, it's not unclear, it's just off-topic. The dude is asking for Snort configurations.
 
@tylerl I can't find the upvote button there?
 
@AviD Reminds me of my feeling when checking my Facebook newsfeed. "Where's the downvote button on those things?"
 
@Adnan "Flag as spam" does exist, I believe.
but no close votes.
 
@AviD Apparently, if you flag a few posts as spam and then they turn out to be non-spam (according to Facebook), your flags become meaningless.
You can, however, hide the post from your newsfeed. I don't want that! I want the post to disappear from the Internet. Fix this, @Jeff
 
oh beautiful. Because they have such a great track record on knowing what is spam, or for that matter, hate speech.
fix it @jeffferland!
 
8:10 AM
@AviD Oh Jesus! I was just dealing with that yesterday. There's a page posting private pictures of me with death threats, and encouraging other people to harass me etc.
 
Good morning guys =)
 
I reported it, and the page said that there was no evidence of such thing.
 
@Adnan that sounds more like a fetish page than hate speech ;-)
 
What the fuck?! It's a post on the page. I CAN SEE IT! IT'S FUCKING THERE!
 
So good playlist for the morning: youtube.com/…
 
8:12 AM
@AviD Well, I got in contact with someone I knew who knew the dude responsible for the page. Talked to him, and took the post down. However, there are still other posts about other people.
 
@Adnan yeah. for my owasp talk on social networks lat year, I collected some such samples, including some pages explicitly calling for racial murders. And FB's response "no evidence of such thing"....
@kiBytes s/morning/2am while high/
 
and then and then and then one big page makes a post asking its member to mass-report another page. One hour.. the other page is gone.
 
Well not so good playlist after all
(too much dubstep)
 
I don't like the band, but I like this one song.
 
Apocalyptica is great!
 
8:37 AM
@kiBytes They're alright. I just don't particularly like non-English-native bands that produce songs that are primarily in English. (I have some exceptions, though).
 
9:03 AM
@Lucas The latest The Simpsons' episode has your name.
 
9:23 AM
Have any of you any expertise involving information security in portfolio management
?
 
@Adnan wut?
 
9:52 AM
"Luca$" is the seventeenth episode of the 25th season of the American animated sitcom The Simpsons, and the 547th episode of the series. The episode was written by Carolyn Omine and aired on April 6, 2014, on Fox. Plot Lisa dates a boy named Lucas Bortner who wants to be a competitive eater. Marge becomes concerned that Lisa is trying to marry Lucas since he is just like Homer. Meanwhile, Bart helps Snake Jailbird break out of jail and starts to receive gifts from him making Milhouse jealous. References
 
 
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11:32 AM
this is actually quite funny (and not as NSFW as you'd think ...) viralnovelty.com/…
 
The downside of putting my job title in LinkedIn: the number of wealth management companies who spam me. The latest actually sent a questionnaire with options for how much I had to invest. My investable assets were 100k lower than the lowest option:-)
 
what's your title @RoryAlsop?
 
@deed02392 Rock God I presume.
 
@deed02392 "Rock God".
 
lol
 
11:35 AM
@AviD pffft!
 
@TerryChia dammit @TerryChia, ninja'd!
 
Hahaha - rock gods invest nothing
 
> Information Security Oversight - Risk, Business Services - Royal Bank of Scotland
 
It's 'Head of Information Security Oversight'
 
@Adnan Cheers
what a great title
 
11:37 AM
@RoryAlsop What do they usually ask you?
 
@RoryAlsop Wasn't it Head of HR management?
 
But it doesn't include the 'I have 3 children so no money'
@terry pffft
 
@RoryAlsop haha
 
@AviD but but but she's pretttty!
 
@RoryAlsop this ones for you!
I put up a job listing for a “Ninja rock star” but programmers keep applying. No I'm literally looking for a silent assassin who can shred.
seriously, twitter is such a timesink.
 
11:45 AM
@AviD Oh, so that's a job for me, I see.
 
@Adnan Since when had that been off topic?
 
12:19 PM
@TildalWave I put up the AnnoTabe extension on the store. Thanks again for the icons! :)
 
@ManishEarth cool, ... a question: can you annotate the annotation list itself? :)
 
@TildalWave yes
 
@ManishEarth does that create any problems?
 
nope
 
nice
good job old man!
 
12:25 PM
^ works
 
@ManishEarth The annotation list ... is it persistent, or the tabs have to be open to show the items in it? I mean, can I use this to close tabs I wanna later return to?
I guess I can as well try :)
 
@TildalWave Both
There's a "persist" checkbox
It's okay, it doesn't steal your passwords
(open source if you actually want to check :P)
 
@ManishEarth yup, just saw it, I had the old version
 
@TildalWave the full functionality is explained here
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A: Is there a Chrome extension that I can use to note why I've opened a tab?

ManishearthUpdate: I published this extension here. It's as of now unlisted, but it can be installed from the Store directly. So I just created a quick extension that does this: AnnoTabe For now, you have to install it by downloading a crx from here. Since Chrome doesn't allow directly installing crx file...

yeah
 
@ManishEarth you know I use "password" as my password anyway, so why would I bother? :D
 
12:33 PM
lol
 
coolio I'll definitely be using it, this will save me a lot of memory (my own too, what I have left)
 
:P
My password is generated by taking the word "password", signing it by ECDSA, then for a given site I take the RSA encrypted version (using my priv key and the site's HTTPS pub key), converting it to alphanumeric text via a modulo, and then truncating it
Come to think of it, that would be a pretty neat way to generate passwords. But it relies on the security of the two privkeys.
 
lot's of shitty questions today :(
 
LOL
10:57 < mfinkle> dolske, firing the events works
10:58 <@dolske> fire some more to teach the rest a lesson.
 
@ManishEarth Orrrrrrrrr grab 128bits from /dev/urandom and encode it.
 
12:38 PM
@TerryChia but then I have to store each password :p
Ooh, Adnan has a last name
 
@ManishEarth :|
 
@ManishEarth Hey, either way you have to use a tool. :P
 
@Adnan I'm not publicizing it :)
@TerryChia you're a tool
:P
 
@ManishEarth I don't really mind. Most people here already know it.
 
ah
I'm always surprised when I find out the real names of people I know on the Net. Been on the Net for quite a while now, still not used to it.
 
12:40 PM
@ManishEarth Oh, come on! To you, my last name is probably as weird as my first.
 
@Adnan nah, your first name is your Internet name, at least here. That's normal
 
@ManishEarth Wait until you know @Lucas' real last name.
 
It's not Kauffman? :o
 
@ManishEarth Well, let's just say that when you hear his real last name you'll have to heil him.
 
Lucas the Calm Llama
:o
 
12:43 PM
@ManishEarth I always thought your last name started with "Mu..." something because of your gravatar
 
@TildalWave Nah. The Mu is for my first name
Mu = M
 
@ManishEarth that would be Μ then, not μ :P
 
μ is M in greek
As an extension of that my computer username is usually muon on local systems (manishearth outside)
 
I used capital Greek Mu (Μ) :P Not M!
Μ != M
 
hah
 
12:46 PM
Try it, see if people can still ping you :)
I could also use Τ instead of T
 
@Τildalwave :P
 
nope, didn't work
 
thought so
 
@ΜanishEarth
 
nopes
 
12:48 PM
Unicode is funny
 
1:06 PM
@TildalWave So's your face.
 
@TerryChia I can't argue that
 
I baptist this day as the day we should vote all answer negative.
 
Good morning, everyone.
 
1:21 PM
Good morning @Kisunminttu
(by the way it's been ages since I answer one question, I really need to dedicate a few more minutes to that)
 
@TerryChia I don't get it, what's its benefits compared to the vanilla Pi, if you have to use a custom board for it anyway? So you can design your own complete IO board instead of extending Pi itself?
 
@TildalWave More adaptable IO is a nice advantage. Also in hardware projects where a regular Pi may be too heavy perhaps? It's really a whole different form factor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-on-module
 
@TerryChia OK so that means there's nothing in it for me, but I might expect slightly smaller products based on Pi CM
 
@TildalWave Me neither, my regular Pi is just sitting on my table unused even. But it's still interesting. :P
 
@TerryChia so's your face :P
 
1:35 PM
23 mins ago, by TildalWave
@TerryChia I can't argue that
 
1:59 PM
Ok, someone slap me if I'm being stupid. How would one normally expect something to end up here: `C:\Windows\SysWOW64\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Tempor‌​ary Internet Files` or is that not normal?
Blah. Markdown's broke again.
 
2:36 PM
@Iszi Smells like Internet Explorer to me.
 
@DavidFreitag Yeah, but why under C:\Windows\SysWOW64\config\systemprofile instead of a regular user's profile folder?
 
@Iszi Because a lot of applications use Internet Explorer for WebView type objects, and that location could be used for those.
I know Altium uses the Internet Explorer dlls to make a WebView but I'm not sure where the temp directory is
 
I guess that is what the user profile directory is set to if it's run by SYSTEM
 
The consensus on the interwebs is that IE uses it for local cache.
 
@deed02392 Right, but why would SYSTEM be browsing the web?
 
2:51 PM
If you called certain methods of the IE dlls and it didn't get provided with a user context then that might be its default location as well
 
@Iszi I think it might be Microsoft's idea of security. Put all cache data in one spot so it's more difficult to determine who the data belongs to.
 
@DavidFreitag Um, no. Normally, Temporary Internet Files go under individual user profile folders.
 
@Iszi Yeah, so I'm reading.
 
@DavidFreitag Haha
 
Perhaps some third party service which runs as SYSTEM and uses an IE browser control.
 
2:55 PM
@CodesInChaos That's what I'm thinking. If someone were to use one of IE's dlls to do some web stuff that might be the case..
 
@CodesInChaos Probably more likely than an app using static methods and it defaulting to that path because isn't that path only writeable by SYSTEM
 
@Iszi A service spawning a process that uses a built-in IE component will very likely run as SYSTEM and leave cache in that directory.
 
@AviD nice!
 
@RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune The package contains
- 2 awful Finnish beers (just so if you were asked once about drinking reindeer piss you can say yes).
- 3 nice Finnish beers.
- 2 nice German beers.
- 1 beer from somewhere
- Small bottle of Salmari
- Even smaller bottle of Minttu
- Hot Salmiakki
- Very salty Salmiakki
- A bag of sweets for the kids
I sent you the tracking code by email.
 
@Adnan dude - you rock!
This definitely means you need to get up to Scotland
 
3:05 PM
@Adnan Hopefully UK post doesn't suck as much as US post
 
@Adnan, I snickered at "reindeer piss"
 
@RoryAlsop Oh I am. Either by the end of June, or by early July. I'll know as soon as I do my interview with the UK visa people.
 
@Kisunminttu Hang on ... a beer named "Minttu" ... is that related to you? These Finnish words - suspicious am I
:-)
@Adnan all the best with that
 
@DavidFreitag Well, it was much easier to send to the UK. No customs form.
 
@Adnan i suspected as much
 
3:09 PM
@RoryAlsop It's actually a 40% peppermint liquor. You'll like it. I was able to send a small bottle (one shot).
 
@Adnan eeeexcellent. That means no sharing
 
@Kisunminttu Well, I sent him two Olvi.
 
I wonder how much a trip to Scotland would cost me.
 
@RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune You guys can split the beers however you like. Same goes for the Salmiakki, if one of you likes spicy stuff he should take the spicy one. Only the bag of sweets is specifically for @RoryA's kids.
 
@Adnan hahaha :-)
Oh - was reading this one. I don't think there is a security question here, but instead a 'how could the NSA successfully develop something without people noticing' question. Which is flawed anyway, as everyone did notice... Any more votes to close?
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Q: How can NSA see everything without us noticing that?

d33tahHere's one thing that keeps bugging me ever since I heard about the NSA revelations. From what I heard, NSA built a system that basically sees most of the internet, made of many subsystems which affect the networks. Judging by the leaked documents, they were pretty invasive, yet nothing was detec...

 
3:13 PM
@RoryAlsop, my screen name is derived from the Finnish word for Nepeta cataria. The "Minttu" just means "mint", but it is also a Finnish name : )
 
See, now you are forcing me down that timesink hole of wikipedia
:-)
 
@DavidFreitag About $1.5k roundtrip.
 
@Adnan Ouch
 
@DavidFreitag $250 roundtrip for me :D
 
@Adnan Well considering you are bout 2,000 miles closer
 
3:15 PM
@DavidFreitag Well, compared to the location in the US, I'm pretty much close to anything that is nice.
Except Canada. I'd love to be closer to Canada
 
@Adnan Does it say what kind of aircraft you will be in? If it's from Helsinki i doubt it will be a puddle jumper. Especially if your destination is Heathrow
 
@DavidFreitag I wouldn't mind a puddle jumper at all.
@Kisunminttu Hun, when do you finish work today?
 
@Adnan I know but a puddle jumper would certainly explain the price.
 
@Adnan I finish at 22:00, sweetcheeks
 
> The SysWOW64 folder located in the Windows folder on the OS drive contains several applications to support 32-bit applications (e.g. cmd.exe, useful to register 32bit windows services, odbcad32.exe, to register ODBC connections for 32-bit applications).
 
3:31 PM
so, is telling someone they can become a "real" hacker by wishing upon a star either a) too subtle, b) too dickish or c) both and I like it
 
@AJHenderson a)
 
perhaps I should have linked it to the song
 
@TildalWave Yes, it has been remarked that "system32" contains the 64-bit binaries, and "sysWoW64" contains the 32-bit binaries.
 
@TildalWave I was thinking of pinochio
 
3:41 PM
@ThomasPornin ah sorry, didn't read all of it
 
@AJHenderson probably too subtle unless the person is well-versed in their disney
 
@AJHenderson that Stonecutters Song has cute lyrics for hacker wannabes :)
 
@TildalWave Oh, I did not say that it has been remarked in the DMZ.
Only remarked "in general"
 
@ThomasPornin So you're saying I'm not needlessly repeating points already made? So you're saying I'm not needlessly repeating points already made?
 
@Kisunminttu I'll send some emails and then pass by your workplace for a kiss. Sounds good?
 
3:46 PM
@Adnan, can't wait : )
 
@Adnan You're supposed to surprise her with that sort of thing, man!
 
@ThomasPornin BTW has anyone done any research on how many times same resources are duped in Win installations installers? There used to be some ultra tiny XP installations installers that could fit on a few floppy disks, but I didn't see anything similar for later Windows (and surely those only increase duplication)
Also, what's plural of Windows? Windowses?
 
On-topic announcement: Lorenzo Cavallaro will be giving a Coursera course “Malicious Software and its Underground Economy: Two Sides to Every Story” starting in a few weeks. Lorenzo will be a keynote speaker at OWASP's AppSec EU 2014.
@Kisunminttu Perfect.
 
@TildalWave I'd imagine a lot of that was fixed in 8. An installation of 8 fits nicely in about 12GB whereas 7 will hog 24GB. (x64, of course)
 
@DavidFreitag OK, and if you only kept stuff that's actually needed and removed all the duped icons from hundreds of different DLLs, you'd be left with? 100 MB?
 
3:51 PM
@DavidFreitag Surprising her is nice and all (and I do a lot of that), but in this kind of cases it's good to avoid situations where I arrive there and she has just left work early this day.
 
@TildalWave Honestly I'm not sure. In both cases the hiberfile.sys still exists and indexing and search are both on
 
@DavidFreitag I meant from install files, not the blown up system installation
something like minixp.reboot.pro
 
@TildalWave Oh i see. You said installations so i thought you meant the size of a system install
 
@DavidFreitag I was vague, my bad
 
@TildalWave Nah shoulda just said installers instead of installations :]
 
3:55 PM
corrected
So... what's plural of Windows?
 
@TildalWave There isn't one because why would anyone want to install more than one copy? ;)
 
@TerryChia dunno, masochism?
 
4:32 PM
@Adnan woo, Cheers @Adnan! makes sense on the splitting, I'm guessing that @RoryAlsop will be more down the spicey line as IIRC Dave's insanity sauce makes a regalar appearance in his meal plans...
 
 
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5:40 PM
Why does physics have to be more difficult than just calculus :|
 
Because physics is applied calculus.
 
 
@ScottPack Newton's second law is kicking my ass.
 
@DavidFreitag that's because you don't spend enough time on Space :P
 
@TildalWave Yeah which is because i spend too much time doing physics homework. The problem is cyclical ;]
 
5:58 PM
@DavidFreitag you're only at the 2nd law of motion, so the 3rd one of not being able to pull one's own ass out of something by your own hair doesn't apply to you yet :P
 
@TildalWave Yeah, not yet.
 
Hello, Internet.
 
Hey @tylerl
 
@Kisunminttu well hello, strangely-anthropomorphic-mineral-configuration!
Does that picture have any particular significance?
 
@tylerl , it's a picture of shaped green calcite on top of some rose quartz. I'm fond of minerals with nice colors and textures : )
I only discovered the anthropomorphic properties of the picture after using it as an avatar on stackexchange!
 
6:13 PM
@Kisunminttu what a discovery!
I think the gremlin in my Linux desktop is GTK3. I'm liking that crew less and less.
 
@tylerl how many cups of coffee have you had today?
 
@DavidFreitag nary a one
 
@tylerl You seem much more energetic than normal.
 
which explains the slurred speech
not particularly. I was up till 3 w/ a particularly recalcitrant 10-month-old
it was sleepy time and she was having none of it
 
Hmm. Must be the lack of dealing with customers relevant to error ID10T.
 
6:16 PM
@tylerl I am using Lubuntu, hence LXDE+openbox, and I happy with that. Or at least not thoroughly disgusted, which is already something.
You may want to give it a try.
 
@ThomasPornin I'm having trouble convincing myself to like lxde
 
Such things really depend on the entity at the meat half of the keyboard.
 
I fired up virtualbox yesterday and installed half a dozen distros trying to find the environment I liked
I actually wrote a script for installing arch, cause arch be crazy.
and I got sick of following the instructions on the wiki
 
A friend of mine really likes Xubuntu but i can't remember what that uses..
 
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Q: Identify attacker's web vulnerability scanner by IP frequency

user43588When I doing a pen test, I run into difficulties, because the defense system can identify attacker's web vulnerability scanner by IP frequency, and then block the IP address In this case, does anyone have suggestion? Thanks dylan

 
6:18 PM
best way to make a programmer mad: make him do the exact same thing three times.
 
XFCE that one is
 
@DavidFreitag Yup. And, contrary to a widespread myth, it is not especially lightweight.
If you have a small, underpowered machine, then Lubuntu will be better than Xubuntu.
 
@ThomasPornin oh, LXDE is the 1998 GTK2 environment. Yes, I remember that one.
ah, you can even install crux theme. The memories...
 
@ThomasPornin Yeah the same friend previously pointed me to LXDE. He got tired of LXDE being so lightweight. According to him XFCE is a pretty good middle ground.
 
@tylerl More like Gnome2 than GTK2, btw (GTK is the toolkit library)
@DavidFreitag LXDE and all these distro are still pretty heavy. In my days, you used Linux in 8 MB of RAM, and when I installed an extra 16 MB things were quite responsive.
 
6:20 PM
Yeah think 10.04 ubuntu for Lubuntu. They pretty much stuck with that theme (it's a bit different)
@ThomasPornin Lightweight in comparison ;]. But then again anything is lightweight in comparison to Unity
 
@ThomasPornin back when you had a "boot" disk and a "root" disk.
 
It is quite clear that there has been some inflation on RAM usage over the years.
 
@ThomasPornin java java java
the poster child for overcommit
 
@tylerl Oh my, they are quite far from being the only culprit, or even the principal culprit.
The trend is more general: developers tend to add features and not to optimize CPU/RAM usage as long as it runs "well enough" on their own machine (which is usually powerful and regularly upgraded).
 
@ThomasPornin But it's one of the few environments that will run with 1.5GB VM and 2M resident.
anyway, I'm a real fan of cinnamon, so I'm thinking of installing mint
(which sounds nonsensical if you're not familiar with the linux landscape)
 
6:26 PM
cinnamon has a tendency to max out one CPU core when idling though
 
@DavidFreitag :(
i've only used it briefly
 
Not always, but there's a bug in there that will cause it to thrash one core
It will probably run fine on a desktop, i just wouldn't put it on a laptop
 
ah I love cinammon
churros!
 
@DavidFreitag still today, or is this a known/fixed issue?
 
allo
 
6:29 PM
@tylerl Ha ha ha....I know how that is. I have an almost-eight-month old who's recently decided it's more fun to stand in her crib and cry than it is to sleep.
 
@tylerl That's a good question. The last time i used it was about 8 months ago so it's possible it has been fixed between then and now.
 
So now I get to decide: *buntu, mint, or Arch.
 
If you are prepared to invest the time to make it good I'd go Arch.
 
@DavidFreitag I like the arch philosophy, and that I can run the latest stuff. And I've put a fair amount of time into it already. But it seems to involve a lot of yak shaving
 
And if you're a lazy mofo, Ubuntu is the way to go.
 
6:33 PM
I've been happily using ubu 12.10 for quite some time. Well, happily isn't the word.... but at least undistrubedly. Then I installed 13 so I could run lxc containers and 13 is a stability nightmare.
Like just today the terminal crashed while I was working on rescuing a server under DDoS. That was not helpful.
 
Wait - you willingly use Unity? shudders
 
@DavidFreitag Not a fan, but have you SEEN gnome3?
 
@tylerl Nope. I don't get much time to play around on linux.
 
They just keep making it worse! The whole team is like a nerdier George Lucas.
 
@tylerl Neckbeards and all?
 
6:37 PM
@DavidFreitag Like just recently, they REMOVED the ability to do background transparency in gnome-terminal... because... just because.
Plus they added Jar-Jar Binks to Nautilus.
 
@tylerl Well that's not encouraging. I've been thinking about upgrading to 14.04 when it comes out, but maybe I'll stick with 12.04 a bit longer.
 
@tylerl They removed it altogether? Heh. I could see making it disabled by default instead though.
@Xander Well, to be honest 13 wasn't a LTS release. I would expect it to be a bit less stable.
 
@DavidFreitag Yep. GONE. Not an option by any means. Not via advanced menus, not via gconf editor.. just gone. Apparently it's not "simple" enough.
 
Aaaaah off to physics exam. Wish me luck...
 
@Xander I was thinking 14 would fix the issues I'm having with 13... but the more I think the less hopeful I get. If they know it's an issue w/ 13, then they'd fix it in 13. And it's not like the releases are getting progressively better by any standard.
 
6:40 PM
@DavidFreitag break a leg!
 
@DavidFreitag Not a stability nightmare though.
@tylerl Unfortunately true.
 
@DavidFreitag G*m*m/r^2
 
Oh well. At least 12 is supported until 2017.
 
Gnome and Unity both appear to be slowly drifting toward Windows 8. Why would they think that's a good idea?
this is not the future!
 
@tylerl Fashions, fashions...
After years of usage, I have come to the conclusion that having a few colours in my terminals might be a worthwhile idea. I don't get the point with transparency effects, though.
 
6:46 PM
@ThomasPornin The crazy thing is that the gnome people actually say (ACTUALLY SAY!) that they're removing features because they are difficult to use on a tablet. WHO THE HELL USES GNOME ON A TABLET!!!?!11!
 
@tylerl perhaps the Gnome developers do
@ThomasPornin It seems more like slating the Metro style is the fashion, to me
 
@deed02392 It's popular in certain circles. The whole "flat" thing. But I'm talking about the usage philosophy rather than the look and feel.
It's like everyone wants the OS that makes desktops run just like mobile devices. Unifying all devices and we all hold hands and sing. And watch youtube videos.
I need the OS for people who need to get shit done.
 
@tylerl Try NetBSD.
It is kind of refreshing.
 
how so?
 
First you are in text mode; you don't get X11 until you ask for it.
 
6:53 PM
@ThomasPornin i can do that in linux
 
Then the core system is designed so that it fits on a toaster, which makes it definitely lightweight.
 
@tylerl you mean Android?
 
@tylerl You can, but do you do it ?
Or, said otherwise, why don't you take the raw kernel, launch the X server, run a basic window manager like fvwm and be done with it ?
 
@ThomasPornin well no, specifically because the first thing I do is start up 4 or 5 terminals. Alt-F2 doesn't cut it
@ThomasPornin no, I don't want a WM I have to argue with. I like to have what I need readily available.
lxde might be where I end up
Though where it's looking right now is Arch+Cinnamon+LXDM
cinnamon doesn't come w/ a display manager, does it.
@Gilles finally clicked the link. Uhm. no words.
 
7:11 PM
@tylerl so windows then :op
 
@RоryMcCune lol
I actually was about to say "It could be worse, I could be working for Microsoft."
 
I've actually finally managed to get a decent Ruby dev. env. in Windows. Combination of RubyMine/SublimeText and cmder for the shell
 
@RоryMcCune your argument is invalid.
because Windows
 
 
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8:31 PM
@Rory Oh, I forgot something. In that package, I also sent 4 pieces of peanutbutter-chocolate candy that @kisuminttu made.
 
@Adnan very cool! Thanks dude.
and thanks @Kisunminttu
 
@RoryAlsop She says hi and you're welcome.
 
 
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Anonymous
9:44 PM
1 day, 5 hours until Windows XP support drops
 
Anonymous
This will be like the Y2k but worse
 
Anonymous
think of all those 0days
 
What in heaven's name are you answering? There is absolutely no difference between option 1 and option 2 for what you are answering. It's not even what the question is about, please read it, don't just look at the pretty pictures and say which one you like more. We're not a "hot or not" site. Also, if you're going to state your opinion, explain why you believe it's the right one. "Because some Darrin off the Internets says so" tends not to be a good way to decide about critical business infrastructure. Thanks! — TildalWave 1 min ago
I guess I'm becoming grumpy, that's my cue then ... nuke it when you get the time to and have a good one ;)
 
Anonymous
10:14 PM
heartbleed.com "The OpenSSL heartbleed bug"
 
@PatoSáinz Any researcher who registers a new domain name for their vuln report makes me immediately extremely skeptical of their work.
 
Anonymous
 
Brand name, domain name, and logo? It's like they're trying to launch a new web 2.0 startup.
 
Anonymous
@tylerl or just somebody that wanted people to have quick access to info and happened to be a designer, you cynical infosec man
 
Ah ha!. I found the angle:
> This bug was independently discovered by a team of security engineers (Riku, Antti and Matti) at Codenomicon and Neel Mehta of Google Security, who first reported it to the OpenSSL team.

...
Codenomicon Ltd. 2014
Versus from bugzilla:
> Acknowledgements:

Red Hat would like to thank the OpenSSL project for reporting this issue. Upstream acknowledges Neel Mehta of Google Security as the original reporter.
So this page is NO NO NO WE DISCOVERED IT FIRST!!
 
Anonymous
10:20 PM
oh well
 
Apparently the codonomomonicon people found something and sat on it while coming up with the appropriate marketing, and in the mean time a Google Security researcher found it and reported it.
So this page is damage-control
...or it could be that the condomigon people really didn't discover anything, or perhaps not this. because they're not referenced anywhere else but this page WRT to this bug.
 
Anonymous
11:02 PM
Heartbleed affects Tor too
 
Anonymous
11:47 PM
@simon have you read that article I linked for you?
 

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