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allquixotic

00:00

@barlop I have basically that mentality

I'm a "tester plus" hehe... test and write software :)

Hellovart

please, if you can write software, you can test software

i can make a console say "Hello world"

barlop

@Hellovart yeah nobody is saying testing software is going to be hard for somebody that can write games it may well be -easy- for you, but it'd expose you to many technologies, that's my point

Hellovart

that should get me a job, right?

Bob

@Hellovart Uh, no.

barlop

@Hellovart be sensible.

Hellovart

00:02

yes, yes, i am doing all what you people are talking about in the last two semesters

and that was a joke

barlop

don't get a job as a comedian

Hellovart

why not, communication is also a big part

barlop

^^

Hellovart

if someone screws me, i curse at them

communications

Bob

@Hellovart Please stop with the personal attacks.

Hellovart

00:10

@Bob it's not a personal attack if it's true

barlop

@Hellovart allquixotic is no slouch!

Journeyman Geek

@Hellovart: You are relatively new here. You don't know @allquixotic at all. You're in no position to make such a statement.

also, be nice or else.

o0

Thats odd

I'm on qtweb (shared box, canary is crashing) and there's suddenly a dotted line over my text box after a notification.

curious

That or it was always there and I didn't notice ;p

Bob

@Hellovart The veracity of a statement does not affect whether it's a personal attack or not.

I'm not going to argue this. I'm just going to flag if you continue on this path.

allquixotic

@Hellovart In order to have gotten my degree at age 50, I'd have to have been born 22 years before I actually was. You're quite disrespectful to people who are trying to offer you advice. Coming into this chat and swearing at us and saying that knowing how to write a "game" using console I/O is going to get you anywhere, is not productive.

barlop

@allquixotic are you really upset?

Journeyman Geek

00:22

@barlop: What he said was entirely uncalled for

I'm upset

allquixotic

@barlop Upset? No, not at all.

barlop

@JourneymanGeek are you upset on behalf of somebody else possibly being upset?

Journeyman Geek

@barlop: I'm upset that someone can just come in and insult a long time user

Also, I've struggled to get a degree so I suppose the statement hits a little close to home

barlop

his 50 year old comment is something allquixotic can brush off like dandruff and not get upset about

i'm not sure what he said about a degree that was "close to home" or upsetting..

sure a lot of CS degrees don't cover material that is relevant to jobs. that is a well known fact. That doesn't mean they're a waste of time.

Bob

@barlop The point is, it's an entirely uncalled-for insult.

Especially after his general behaviour for a lot of chat.

Journeyman Geek

00:25

@barlop and this chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/14670382#14670382

allquixotic

@barlop At first, I thought he was here to get help, or to learn. At first I actually felt bad that he seemed to have a rather irresponsible professor who offered no notes and no textbook for the class. But then he turned hostile and I lost interest in helping him.

He can say what he wants, but from the sound of it, he's unemployed and degree-seeking, while I'm a working professional with a degree, so he's got nothing on me. He can scream and stomp and cuss and insult til the cows come home; I could care less.

barlop

right

Journeyman Geek

I'm unemployed and degree seeking. I don't think I'm hot shit ;p

Bob

@allquixotic couldn't care less* :P

barlop

he wants to say somebody hasn't finished high school.. then he's talking rubbish, and as long as he's not spamming, I don't see it as much of a problem

it's stupid sure

allquixotic

00:26

@Bob thanks :)

Journeyman Geek

@barlop: It feels disruptive overall

barlop

sure

well, not constructive..

Journeyman Geek

If someone comes into your kitchen, with muddy boots, and calls your mom a cow, you'd probably grab him by the scruff of the neck and throw him out too.

Canadian Luke

Michael Frank

Wow... So I missed all the fun it seems?

barlop

00:27

well, you haven't met my mother, i'd probably agree with him.

And by the way, i'm not sexist. If my mother doesn't like it she shouldn't go finding men to fight her battles for her, unless absolutely necessary.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Dude. THE FLOOR.

;p

barlop

She can clean it!

Bob

@barlop It's abusive behaviour. There's no reason we should accept it.

barlop

I don't quite know a good way to deal with that situation of somebody with muddy boots coming into the kitchen, but physically throwing him out might lead to an assault charge.

Journeyman Geek

Its a metaphor ;p

barlop

00:30

or an analogy

Journeyman Geek

precisely

barlop

well, somebody can give their opinion, and in this case, it was a -dumb- opinion, and negative. But if allquixotic wasn't the genius he is, and was actually some idiot and somebody that couldn't graduate high school, then what'd you make of that character's remark?

Journeyman Geek

@barlop: If it was evidence based, it would be fine

barlop

@JourneymanGeek but you could say it was abuse

Journeyman Geek

If someone made a crack about me not having a degree, I'd be upset, but I wouldn't consider it serious abuse.

I'd think the person was an arse though

Bob

00:34

@JourneymanGeek If there is no good reason, it's still abuse.

True or not, there is no reason to make that kind of comment in this context.

barlop

it's arguably more abusive to make a crack at somebody that doesn't have a degree, for not having a degree, than it is to make a comment so absurd, as to say somebody hasn't completed high school when they're way beyond that standard.

Bob

@barlop It doesn't matter which one is worse, they're both bad, they both easily count as offensive (with no good reason), and they both deserve a flag and chat ban.

barlop

well, the bad thing about abuse, is the victim of it gets hurt..

other than that, it's not the abuse that is bad, but the pointless blabbering they do.

Bob

And? "Oh, he can take it, it's not that bad!"

barlop

@Bob well, if no reasonable person could take it, then that would be very bad.

very abusive

how long is his chat ban for?

allquixotic

00:44

he was chat banned?

Bob

@allquixotic I flagged as offensive.

allquixotic

I thought he just went quiet :P

Bob

I believe it's an autoban if the flag is accepted.

allquixotic

@Bob: ahh

Bob

I think it was 30 min?

Though, I'll be happy to flag again if he comes back and doesn't calm down.

allquixotic

00:47

ahh

(I'm still in @JourneymanGeek imitation mode)

barlop

@allquixotic what does that mode involve?

Bob

@barlop ~~['ahh', 'lol', ';p']~~ ~~doglike behaviour~~ some ankle-biting ;)

barlop

@allquixotic ah, I thought it meant you'd just banned somebody recently as well ;-)

allquixotic

@barlop lol, no

I can't ban anyone; I'm just a room owner

the most I can do is close peoples' questions (or help with that, anyway) so they eventually become question- or answer-banned

Journeyman Geek

01:08

Its 30 minutes I think, its a flag

Michael Frank

12

Q: How do I stop Apple Software Updater from trying to install iTunes? (Windows)

Whenever there's a Safari or a Quicktime update the Apple Software Updater pops up asking if want to update. This is fine, however it also auto-checks a box that says 'Install Quicktime + iTunes' that I have to uncheck. I know this is only a minor annoyance but it's happened so often that it real...

Aww yea, that's a pretty decent... WTF?!

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic:I was complaining about that as a room owner. I personally think room owners being allowed to suspend folk from their rooms makes more sense than chatflags being accepted by random 10K users

Bob

@MichaelFrank ...yeaaaa I think I'll just click this, and that, and close the tab, annnnd done.

Michael Frank

That guy is obviously super happy with this website.

Journeyman Geek

lol

that answer needs to be flagged ;p

Michael Frank

01:14

@JourneymanGeek NO LEAVE IT FOR LOLZ

(Also, I already flagged it)

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

02:01

!!tumbleweed

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

Qwertie ϟ

02:27

Does anyone know what -f does to the ping command?

Bob

> -f Set Don't Fragment flag in packet (IPv4-only).

!!wiki ipv4 don't fragment

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob No result found

Bob

!!google ipv4 don't fragment

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4 ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_fragmentation ; ietf.org/rfc/rfc791.txt

Bob

>
Flags
A three-bit field follows and is used to control or identify fragments. They are (in order, from high order to low order):

bit 0: Reserved; must be zero.[note 1]
bit 1: Don't Fragment (DF)
bit 2: More Fragments (MF)

If the DF flag is set, and fragmentation is required to route the packet, then the packet is dropped. This can be used when sending packets to a host that does not have sufficient resources to handle fragmentation. It can also be used for Path MTU Discovery, either automatically by the host IP software, or manually using diagnostic tools such as ping or traceroute.

allquixotic

02:37

@Bob TIL.

Michael Frank

03:50

Damn Adobe Reader... Randomly uninstalling itself around the country! :\

Bob

04:03

o.o

Psycogeek

04:23

This superuser.com/questions/736556/… might be better off at the android site , or answered by someone who does rom changes , which they do often there.

Bob

@Psycogeek It's off-topic on SU anyway.

Bob

05:58

Hm

MS has it backwards msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/bg162891.aspx

> Install and download

Psycogeek

06:20

""I really need ur help I hope u will do CZ I'm so in trouble with my husband becz of Gps mistakenly located my position I'm. A specialist. Pediatrician working in hospital and that day I.have oncall duty and I was working in the hospital all that time my husband can not belive I'm oncall he was tracking my position I think by my Gmail. ""
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/66872/gps-mistaken-my-location-and-get-me-to-trouble

And this is why we dont want bots/computers sending people to jails. Sometimes computers make misteaks.

Journeyman Geek

eh, the problem's not with the technology

Psycogeek

Its the humans that program them :-)

Journeyman Geek

The fact that her husband seems to think its fine to track her via her phone is

Psycogeek

He was just looking out for her well being :-) If he is so adept at using the technology then he should have been just as adept at knowing it's level of accuracy and failure rate.

Journeyman Geek

06:39

Thats... not right....

actually thats quite curious

all my GPS tracks for that area/time are messed up

Psycogeek

I keep asking the dude who makes my map program to toss in an averaging for more acurate walking tracking. At one time the US Gps system had a very high level of inacuracy to keep it from being used for "targeting". Clinton era changed it a little making it more accurate, but there is still a "bad data" tossed out regularly , making it more like 95% accurate. the simple averaging alogrythm would "finish it".

@JourneymanGeek Which has little do do with this , far off. Which might be more related to the GPS going to sleep in android, and many programs just grab a "quick location" which is often a very poor fix.

Journeyman Geek

Its accurate nearly everywhere else

and this is WAY off

Psycogeek

Mabey it grabbed a location off the WIFI on a cruise ship :-)

Bob

@Journeyman maybe your tune was just set wrong

GPS relies in the clock

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: time ought to be correct

There is a bigass radar there

and as I said, it goes crazy in the same place

Psycogeek

06:54

There is/was at least one location in the US around some government buildings where a person cannot get an accurate GPS fix by design. (that was not area 51:-)

nhinkle

@Psycogeek unless they have jammers that wouldn't work, unless the locations to give poor results were pre-encoded on the device, which would rather defeat the point.

Psycogeek

Yea i think the area is jammed. Maybe they can just toss out GPS data out of there that is confused with being from sats? I dont even know if they keep the method secret.

Journeyman Geek

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slhck

Hello everyone

Need some help from someone experienced with Windows domains, Cygwin and running that behind a proxy

Bob

07:22

@slhck see: SF :P

Well, I could just say this:

!!tell 14676810 meta

:P

ChatBot John Cavil

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slhck

@Bob Well, if it was possible to put everything in one question.. trust me, I'd have done that

Maybe: I think I'm behind a proxy. I use Cygwin and I managed to find out the proxy address that Windows uses, set that as environment variable (http_proxy), and now I can download some stuff but not other.

That worked for me initially:

19

Q: How do I use cygwin behind the corporate firewall

I'm in a Microsoft IE environment, but I want to use cygwin for a number of quick scripting tasks. How would I configure it to use my windows proxy information? Ruby gems, ping, etc are all trying to make direct connections. How can I get them to respect the proxy information that IE and firef...

networking proxy cygwin

wget peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py
--2014-04-04 09:07:17--  peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py
Connecting to 10.117.53.11:8080... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 10240 (10K) [text/plain]
Saving to: `ez_setup.py'

100%[==============================================================================>] 10,240      --.-K/s   in 0.001s

2014-04-04 09:07:17 (16.7 MB/s) - `ez_setup.py' saved [10240/10240]

That works.

Downloading pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/s/setuptools/…
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ez_setup.py", line 278, in <module>
    main(sys.argv[1:])
  File "ez_setup.py", line 210, in main
    egg = download_setuptools(version, delay=0)
  File "ez_setup.py", line 158, in download_setuptools
    src = urllib2.urlopen(url)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 127, in urlopen
    return _opener.open(url, data, timeout)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 410, in open

That doesn't.

Bob

@slhck So... ok.

gimme a sec

slhck

Problem is, I think I cannot ask the helpdesk to help me because they'll say, don't use that stuff

Bob

@slhck So, basically, Python isn't going through the proxy?

This is on Windows, right?

slhck

07:34

@Bob Yes and yes

It's the Python that Cygwin installed

Bob

2

A: Using an HTTP PROXY - Python

Just wanted to mention, that you also may have to set the https_proxy OS environment variable in case https URLs need to be accessed. In my case it was not obvious to me and I tried for hours to discover this. My use case: Win 7, jython-standalone-2.5.3.jar, setuptools installation via ez_setup.py

slhck

@Bob So I have to rewrite all Python scripts, even the third-party installers? :P

Bob

@slhck No, read the answer linked to.

slhck

Because HTTP_PROXY is set as an env variable

Bob

Specifically, try setting https_proxy too.

slhck

07:37

Aaaah, that worked

Although it tries to download from HTTP

Bob

@slhck Probably gets redirected to HTTPS somewhere.

slhck

@Bob Well thank you

Bob

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 1222, in https_open
    return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPSConnection, req)

That looks suspicious :P

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 629, in http_error_302
    return self.parent.open(new, timeout=req.timeout)

Ya it's a redirect.

slhck

Ugh I HATE Windows.

Bob

@slhck :(

slhck

07:39

Or at least having to do typically non-Windows stuff on Windows.

Bob

Well, you are trying to force cygwin on there.

Why not just run the Windows distribution of Python?

slhck

@Bob Would it matter which one I chose?

Bob

Also, you probably would've had the same issue anyway - https_proxy is not just a cygwin/Windows thing :P

slhck

Great, not even the vim shortcuts work, all garbled.

Bob

@slhck Maaaaaybe? :P

@slhck chrisdixblog.com/2010/12/25/…

Specifically, set nocompatible

Personally, I don't like Cygwin. Eaier to just run Lubuntu or Kubuntu in a VM.

slhck

07:43

@Bob Not with the specs of this machine

Bob

@slhck Which are?

As long as it has a halfway-decent amount of RAM and support for VT-x, it works pretty well :P

slhck

4 Gig. Core i7 2.7 GHz

Crappy laptop hard drive.

Well I can try running some light distro in a VM, let's see.

Bob

@slhck Perfectly fine.

slhck

If I didn't have to process 1080p raw videos....

Bob

I've run Win8 in a VM with Win7 on a similar system, with no performance issues.

@slhck Ok, not-so-fine :P

slhck

07:48

Well at least from my experience Windows works better as a host than OS X, so I'm going to give it a spin

Xfce would be preferred if I want lightweight right?

Bob

@slhck I think LXDE was preferred.

But there was some funniness when I tried to use it on VMware.

slhck

Sounds... funny?

Bob

forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=910.0

> Well, I did notice that while a 64 bit install of XFCE uses about 250MB of RAM, LXDE only uses about 150MB. That is pretty amazing!

slhck

Ah, Mint doesn't have LXDE, but I'm going to try Lubuntu, doesn't matter really.

Just something that is not from Microsoft. I have to deal with Sharepoint, Outlook and Lync now anyway :P More than enough for me.

Bob

@slhck Guest tools don't autostart without manual intervention.

slhck

07:59

@Bob Ok, I'll install the VM and then see.

@Bob Any reason I can only select 32-bit hosts in VirtualBox?

I run a 64-bit host, so....

Bob

@slhck Guests?

Oh

Make sure you turn on VT-x in your UEFI/BIOS settings.

Without hardware acceleration, VBox can only emulate 32-bit guests.

And that's full software emulation, which is slooooooow

slhck

@Bob Hmm. Not sure if I can get in there.

Bob

:|

slhck

Meh.

Bob

08:20

@slhck Why are you trying to use Virtual PC?

Bob

09:29

holy shit

a native compiler for C# exists :O msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vstudio/dotnetnative

Seen that yet, @allquixotic? ^

blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/04/02/…

Journeyman Geek

09:47

@Bob: bunch of cool things coming out today ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek They did it just after April Fools, too... -__-

Oliver Salzburg

10:25

Does the SO favicon look sharper today?

It looks incredibly detailed

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Yes, it's different.

Journeyman Geek

10:49

geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/?page=home

2

The internet is apparently a series of tube (stations)

Bob

o.O

Oliver Salzburg

11:07

What the what O__o open-with

slhck

@Bob I don't, it's just the tool that tells you if VT-X is enabled :P

Bob

@slhck Ah.

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: A lot of laptops of that era don't have VT-X or have no option to enable it from the bios.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek He's on an i7.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Not the c2d?

then check the bios

slhck

11:12

@JourneymanGeek I have it enabled now. Had someone from the IT do it :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek XD

slhck

It's funny because I can pretend to know nothing about computers now.

2

Journeyman Geek

You don't! ;p

(hell I don't half the time)

slhck

Yeeeeah, in that sense, I really don't

Bob

2

Journeyman Geek

11:16

Thats rather funny in the light of what I said earlier ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Hm?

Journeyman Geek

11 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

If someone comes into your kitchen, with muddy boots, and calls your mom a cow, you'd probably grab him by the scruff of the neck and throw him out too.

Bob

XD

Journeyman Geek

I can totally get why he's doing that though, having sand between your pawpads is a pain

Oliver Salzburg

You speak from experience I imagine?

Journeyman Geek

11:19

;p

Only thing worse is ants

@OliverSalzburg: You could say that, yes.

allquixotic

12:06

@Bob this is the first I've heard of it. but is it just AOT, or is it an actual native exe rather than linking to the framework? can you ship it on systems without the framework? also, looks like Windows Store only, which is a deal-breaker

heh... really complex XNA games (written in C#), such as StarDrive, should be chomping at the bit to get access to the .NET Native compiler working for non-Store, x86 apps. StarDrive takes like 20 seconds to start up. This could cut that down to 8 seconds or so :D

it'd be I/O bound instead of CPU bound (I'm pretty sure it's CPU bound right now, because the game doesn't have that big of a resource cache, and I have hardware RAID10, so it's not going to bottleneck on FS reads)

Bob

@allquixotic Sounds like native exe.

> Today's preview supports Windows Store applications. We will continue to evolve and improve native compilation for the range of .NET applications.

@allquixotic See the comments.

> Sean: Will this support a WPF desktop application?

> Andrew Pardoe [MSFT]: @Sean: The .NET Native Preview released today only targets Store apps but we're working on improving native compilation for all .NET apps. We've already answered this question, and a lot of others, by the way, at the Microsoft .NET Native FAQ: msdn.microsoft.com/.../dn642499.aspx.

Heck, I thought that was you for a minute.

> With the .NET Native Developer Preview, apps will get deployed on end-user devices as fully self-contained natively compiled code, and will not have a dependency on the .NET Framework on the target device/machine. So, no .NET framework required on the target machine with .NET Native.

msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vstudio/dn642499.aspx

> Yes, framework code will be compiled into the application. With package sizes, since most Store apps have a lot of multimedia, the difference isn’t significant. The code size does change as a result; however, only the portions of the framework that are used by the app are linked in. The end result is that binaries compiled with .NET Native are in the same ballpark as that of NGEN’ed binaries. We’re still investigating strategies by which we can further reduce the difference in sizes.

allquixotic

13:06

@Bob so basically, Excelsior JET

cool

Bob

@allquixotic Except official MS and free :P

Not even, according to the JET website they just AOT it :\

allquixotic

@Bob well. the runtime-embedding feature of it is like JET. but the code optimization they do is even more than the best case of JET

Bob

@allquixotic Ya, can't wait.

Then the next time my boss asks me to write some utility I can stop going "well, if they have Windows 7+ or .NET installed..."

allquixotic

@Bob I worry about private working set though

Bob

True...

Then again, most .NET programs only use a tiny tiny fraction of the BCL anyway.

Is it just me or did Wikipedia change font?

allquixotic

13:16

when you load DLLs from disk into a process space, and you have 5 processes loading the exact same library, the dynamic loader has a "soft page fault" that goes and accesses the library that's already been loaded into virtual memory in another process's working set

if each individual .NET Native EXE will have its own copy of the runtime internally, that mechanism for memory-saving won't be activated

Bob

fastcodesign.com/3028366/…

Looks like it did.

HackToHell

Google Now can't do this :P mashable.com/2014/04/03/microsoft-cortana-siri/…

allquixotic

@HackToHell but "OK Google Now" rolls off the tongue better than "OK Cortana"

Braiam

how is the thingy to make imgur images smaller?

allquixotic

@Braiam how is it? well I'd like to think it's quite fine, and I haven't heard any reports of its wife getting cancer or anything like that.

2

Braiam

13:24

@allquixotic I was preventing clippy from being... clippy

and I found out how

Journeyman Geek

13:50

I thought its ok google ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek nope, it's "OK Google Now"

at least on my Droid Maxx

Journeyman Geek

ahh

4

I tend to break voice recognition ;p

HackToHell

@allquixotic So it's Ok Google on just glass ?

ok google doesn't work ?

allquixotic

@HackToHell I guess. they might refactor "OK Google Now" in a future release of the firmware for my device

HackToHell

Google Search is through play store and should be the same for all devices

allquixotic

13:58

well my KitKat made me train on "OK Google Now"

Bob

@allquixotic They both sound stupid, tbh.

Just people walking around saying "Ok Google Now" :S

Not too bad at home, but in public? Nawp.

allquixotic

@Bob even funnier would be to say in a neutral voice, "OK Google Now" on a crowded subway

watch how many peoples' phones beep at them

then say something like "Call Mom"

Bob

@allquixotic "Ok Google YouTube Rick Roll"

allquixotic

@Bob lol

Dave Rook

Hi all, I need to ask a question about AutoHotKey but I can't install it at present... Any one here used it?

Bob

14:13

@DaveRook Ya?

allquixotic

!!tell 14683826 meta

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Dave Rook

Well, I undetsand the idea is to map keyboard contorls and off - my question is, can you assign a keyboard control to switch between settings. EG< assume I want CTRL C to be copy (as per usual in windows) and also close. I'd like to be able to press CTRL ALT SHIT SPACE RETURN (or some combination) to swtich between the 2

Bob

@DaveRook Sure!

Dave Rook

Well, that was easy!

Bob

14:15

You'd be setting a variable with the latter command.

And checking the variable in the former.

I forgot the AHK syntax for variables, but it shouldn't be hard to look up.

Dave Rook

Right, in that case I will download and try it! I'm that lazy, I want to be able to use the scroll wheel to step through in VS

Thanks Bob, beer on me

and scroll wheel click to step over

Bob

@DaveRook Just a warning: it might not be a good idea to map close like that, in case you toggle to the wrong option.

allquixotic

just don't accidentally map e to shutdown -t 0 -s -f

Bob

Heh.

Dave Rook

ah, I see - to be honest, I'm hoping to use it only for this 1 thing... I've managed so far with out AHK (I get the feeling I'm going to regret typing this!!) :)

Bob

14:18

You'd do something like:

jokerdino

@Bob: like what? Don't keep me waiting.

Bob

ToggleButton::
    someVariable := !someVariable
    Return

allquixotic

ahh

Bob

CommandButton::
    if (someVariable) {
        SendInput {Enter}
    } else {
        SendInput {Up}
    }
    Return

Dave Rook

Noted, thank you very much @Bob

Bob

14:20

You might need to double-check that syntax, but I think that's right.

jokerdino

What lang. was that?

scrolls up.

Bob

It's using the expression syntax (:= instead of =, parentheses on the if), which requires a decently new version. The other "traditional" syntax sucks.

@jokerdino AHK.

jokerdino

ahh

3

Bob

Annoying thing is the expression syntax mimics most other languages in most ways, except it uses :=. "Traditional" syntax is more like, uh... Windows' batch scripting, I guess. It sucks.

Bob

14:36

@jokerdino What, do I have to say "ahh" now to get stars? :(

jokerdino

;p

Bob

3

jokerdino

that one is giving me headaches

HackToHell

o0 India is sending an atomic clock to space

jokerdino

no bomb?

HackToHell

14:46

nope

@_@ pbs.twimg.com/media/BkXu1yQCcAAHV_u.jpg

Bob

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Q: How do I lick a plane?

A friend of mine told me that I would get an Achievement if I managed to lick the plane that's flying around in the world but, he won't tell me how to get close to it. I tried many different things. Jumping on trampolines won't get me high enough, and the only thing that looks high enough is the...

achievements goat-simulator

jokerdino

@HackToHell that's a whoopdie doop long sentence and very unimpressive

@Bob what's the craze with goat simulator?!?!?!

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino bééééééééé

Bob

@jokerdino s/goat/[farming,surgeon,truck,train,ship,car mechanic]/

jokerdino

the only simulator i can live with is the flight one.

That Brazilian Guy

14:53

They should make a simulation simulator, where they simulate that they're simulating a simulator.

Journeyman Geek

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@jokerdino: Its sort of a extended april fools day joke

HackToHell

Wow, for a goat simpulator it's kinda complex

Journeyman Geek

@Braiam: You add an m at the end of the filename, so imgur.com/filler/foobar.img becomes foobarm.img

jokerdino

@HackToHell i played like 2 minutes of the game doing a backflip and I hated it.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy or a simulator simulator simulator. Its simulators all the way in

jokerdino

14:56

Hey, did something change about Wikipedia layout?

Journeyman Geek

or a cat simulator. It had two buttons. Sleep. KILL.

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@jokerdino: I think its the font

jokerdino

The font seems bigger. Not sure if I just zoomed in though.

Journeyman Geek

looks serif too

jokerdino

Is the font something I like? I don't know. It just feels different.

I mean, it makes my knee weak.

Journeyman Geek

I don't like serif fonts.

That Brazilian Guy

14:58

Complaints about layout changes?

What, Facebook now bought Wikipedia too?

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