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09:00
@FEichinger ... I want one to
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT
I'd like to file the whole thing in "pure bullshit", but my boss threw it back.
@Kevin You want one to what?
@FEichinger self-contradictionary!
"The whole thing is a mess." "I don't know, didn't read it, just give me a time-estimation".
@Arperum "About 5 minutes, then I toss it back as unclear and unworkable"
09:01
@Kevin (too*)
@FEichinger fuck to/too! I don't care
Most annoying thing about English
Teeheehee.
@KevinvanderVelden "Just get me a vague estimation, and a list of questions".
That's not how you boss.
Dammit.
@Arp "What do you want?"
Only item on that list.
Just put every requirement on a line, prefix them all with "What do you mean by:" and put as estimation "Between 1 and 4 weeks per point"
09:04
@FEichinger Don't tempt me.
See, this is why I just ask for sketches of what they have in mind.
> - Future: integrate youtube?
Seriously?
These are the kind of customer that has a specific image of a "cool thing" in their head, but don't know what to focus on for you.
Let them draw a few sketches of what they think, then formalize that and move on from there.
@FEichinger And the worst part is someone fed them buzzwords. so everything is full of things like "CMS"
@FEichinger I have no contact with the goddamn client. My boss is calling them tomorrow or something.
ugh, the site has to be compatible for tablet, but they almso need a separate mobile site.
GO AWAY
"2 levels of passwords"
09:10
maybe https because passwords are used and such.
@Arperum no no, you log in with your password, and then you log in with another password
Obviously
@KevinvanderVelden Separate requirement.
Cause that's somehow magically different from just pasting 2 passwords together
also: remember password in browser.
@Arperum Someone heard of 2-factor authentication it seems, but didn't understand it
09:11
For fucks sake, why https if you are doing that.
lolwut
All teh fake security, but store the password locally! How smart!
also:
> searchfunction
> - IE 8-9-10-11…, chrome, firefox,… compatible in most used browsers.
EVERYTHING IS WRONG.
> be able to add pages with or without password.
WHAT DO YOU WANT.
To be able to choose whether a page has password or not?
@Arperum clearly he wants to be a wiki
@KevinvanderVelden I JUST WANT HIM TO GO AWAY.
OH GOD
09:17
@Arperum cat listofrequirements.txt | sed 's/^.*$/What do you mean by: "&"?/' > email
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Q: How do I lick a plane?

JutschgeA friend of mine told me that I would get an Achievement if I managed to lick the plane that's flying around in the world but he won't tell me how I get close to it. I tried many different things. Jumping on trampolines won't get you high enough and the only thing that looks high enough is the c...

> - make mobile page m.site.be (only contact and important info)
8 mins ago, by Arperum
GO AWAY
what's annoying about a contact/info page that's easy to use with mobile devices?
All the NOPE
@3ventic the website also has to be mobile compatible already
Oh, that
09:19
@3ventic BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ACCESS THE REST OF THE CONTENT.
So which one does he want?
@KevinvanderVelden ALL THE BUZZWORDS
I hate people who don't know what they want, they just want.
BUZZWORDS HO!
@3ventic IF YOU ADD IN BUZZWORDS IT GETS WORSE
ALSO: RAGE.
09:20
This reminds me of a video that (I think) was linked here earlier.
@Arperum Clearly, neither Safari nor Opera exist. ;)
Safari basically doesn't exist if you're not using iSomething
THERE ALSO HAS TO BE A PART OF THE WEBSITE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE WEBSITE WHERE THEY CAN UPLOAD BULLSHIT FOR A NEWSLETTER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADD FILES TO THEIR MAILING
"Dropbox"
09:23
> A PART OF THE WEBSITE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE WEBSITE
Yeah...
@3ventic THIS IS THE CLEARER PART OF THE WORDDOC.
@Arperum New reply: "ALL THE NOPES"
Just that sentence, send that
@KevinvanderVelden I AM REALLY CLOSE TO DOING JUST THAT. SENDING A TIME ESTIMATION OF BETWEEN TWO DAYS AND THREE YEARS IS ANOTHER OPTION
> Excuse me please, I stepped back and this time of villages was my brother and he can't play." Rasante account. Nothing like this again
@Arperum seems legit
09:26
If it wasn't that I just asked for a loan yesterday and loosing my job wouldn't be as much of a disaster I'd do it.
Wait for a few more weeks and then send it!
@KevinvanderVelden I have to send it today.
@Arp Just stop being poor.
@FEichinger I'd love to. Got some easy option for me?
@FEichinger If you have 140.000 euro I can have, I'll send that mail.
> - Typecontract (downloads ?)
What does this even mean?
09:32
@FEichinger Exactly.
That isn't even pseudo buzzwords, it just flat-out makes no sense.
@FEichinger Yup. The subpoints of that thing have something to do uploading files and ordering them and with or wirthout password on the site.
WHO is supposed to do WHAT?
WHAT is WHO supposed to see WHERE?
> Password = free choice + resetbutton
Also: the website needs a friggin filemanager.
Whoever created that document was asked the wrong questions.
"What do you want in your website?" Does. Not. Work.
Anyone who can answer that properly can do it themself.
09:39
@FEichinger Probably not even asked questions, just send in a doc: "I want a website that can do this"
@Arp Then your company needs a proper client liaison.
Dedicated to that and asking these questions instead of just forwarding documents.
Anyway, gtg.
@FEichinger The worst part is that I'm the first person to read the friggin doc. My boss just forwarded it and wa like, "Vague time estimation by tomorrow. Also, your list of questions for the client."
ugh.
Go talk to your boss about it?
Did I mention that there is also other stuff on my plate at the same time?
@3ventic I can't. I'm also hired out as consultant for today, so working at some other company...
uh
Good luck, seems like you'll need it
09:48
@3ventic If my loan would've been accepted already, I'd probably say "fuck this".
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Q: Connect to a server not on port 25565

Tom HartI'm trying to run 2 Minecraft servers on my VPS, normal and a Bukkit server for playing with mods. I believe I have the both running (Normal on 25565 and Bukkit on 25566), however, when I try and connect (using xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:25566) it doesn't connect. Is that all I need to do to connect using ...

 
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10:58
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Q: Does sparkflint familiar emit fire damage or arcane damage

Jim ThioThis is the explanation Sparkflint Summon a fiery Familiar that grants you 10% increased damage.

So, that star list ...
Why exactly is @spugsley fucking goats?
@FEichinger because that's what the game is about!
@KevinvanderVelden >.>
<.<
Also it may not have been a verb
@FEichinger I think @spugsley's problem is @IanPugsley playing goat simulator.
11:03
But let's just ignore that for comedic effect
@GnomeSlice You thank someone when they do something for you that you're thankful for/appreciate/et cetera. Chat has made it clear on numerous occasions that they don't like the frequency at which you post game sales, especially those times when you don't seem to know much about the games at all.
11:14
@KevinvanderVelden mind is blown For some reason I didn't see that option until you said it.
11 mins ago, by Kevin van der Velden
But let's just ignore that for comedic effect
@KevinvanderVelden Now I have to actually ignore it, before it just was a verb.
@KevinvanderVelden I'm disappointed this wasn't a literal @AshleyNunn pillow.
@Wipqozn Would pinging @AshleyNunn a third time summon her?
@Arperum Probably.
Pretty sure @AshleyNunn is beetlejuice.
11:18
@Wipqozn didn't we already deduce that @FEichinger is beetlejuice?
@Wipqozn The only thing is, how much of a delay between summoning and appearance?
@Arperum I'd give it 2 hours. Or more. Probably more.
I bet she'll sleep in until 10.
@KevinvanderVelden It definitely worked before with @FEichinger.
@Wipqozn I want to sleep in until 10 =[
@KevinvanderVelden Same.
11:19
10 is far too late to sleep in until.
9pm is the latest I like sleeping in.
I went to bed at 10PM yesterday, that's like at least two hours earlier then anytime in the last year or such.
I haven't been that tired in a pretty long while.
Fuck.
@Wipqozn Probably because you hate sleeping or such.
I love sleep, I just also love morning.
11:22
I went to bed at midnight last night, just like every night for a year now. I arose at 7.30 this morning, as I have done every morning for a year now. ROCK SOLID CIRCADIAN RHYTHM
@Wipqozn Morning just starts too early.
I normally get to bed for 10, and wake up at 6am (for work). During the weekend I'll try to get to bed at 11 and usually wake up by 8.
@Wipqozn Scary. I normally end up in bed around 12-1AM and get up between 7 and 9, based on where I have to be for work.
In weekends I normally go to bed around 3-4AM and get up around noon.
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Q: blazing hydra vs arcane hydra

Jim ThioWhat's the advantage of blazing hydra compared to arcane hydra? It looks like they both do the same thing except that blazing hydra damage is a little lower and the damage is delayed by 3 seconds. Looks like arcane hydra win.

Although, lately my weektime bedtime has been closer to 2AM, and this week even worse due to Age of Wonders 3
11:28
Age of wonders III is the worst
@KevinvanderVelden So is your face.
It eats so much time because so much fun =[
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BURN LEVEL: MAXIMUM
@Wipqozn Nope, not all-caps'ed.
Poor turtle, so confused =[
11:29
You guys just hate Turtles.
No no, minecraft turtles are awesome!
So what race/class have you been playing as @KevinvanderVelden?
I know @Arperum is currently playing a Draconic Sorcerer.
@Wipqozn they were inevitably the worst chocolates that my relatives always put out around Christmas time.
Elven Sorcerer in a islands map
Because then I'm reasonably safe while I learn how it works
Makes sense.
My first game was as a Goblin Warlord, and now I'm playing a Dwarf Theocrat.
I'm sure everyone in chat was aware I was playing as A MIGHTY GOBLIN EMPEROR!
11:34
@KevinvanderVelden Sorceror is a lot of fun. I'm nearing the point of summoning Tier 4 units.
@Arperum I've got 2 wisps!
Goblin Swarm Darters are the bees knees.
I really didn't play much, dota and making games and looking for houses and stuff
@Wipqozn I CRUSHED a goblin warlord.
Obviously his heart wasn't Goblin enough.
11:35
He was a fake goblin D:
@KevinvanderVelden All my wisps are dead, I used them as cannonfodder, so my other non-summoned units could survive.
You did a good job of ridding the world of that fake thing!
Also, because they are so weak compared to what comes later.
Also, doublechecking, summoned units require mana right?
@KevinvanderVelden Haven't checked, but it seems to indicate so. One cost up front, and then a cost per turn IIRC.
And also a cost of spellpoints. So summoning and then being in a battle kind of rips you of spells on your main hero.
11:39
Yeah, summoning is good on turns you don't intend to battle.
And some things cost 100+ spellpoints to summon, and thus require multiple turns of summoning.
Any turn I don't enter battle I've been casting my Theocrat summon spell.
They're basically just free units I find.
I was unaware they had a mana upkeep cost though.
It would make sense though.
Mana hasn't been a scarce resource yet though.
But the next enemy I find will find Eldritch horrors before him. I think having Tier 4 units is going to hurt them.
I suspect it will.
How many casting points does an Eldritch horror have?
rerr, require.
@Wipqozn Don't know. Not at home so I can't check.
11:49
@Arperum wow, you mean to tell me you haven't memorized every aspect of the entire game yet?
WOW MAN
WOW
I know that summoning a tier 3 unit costs me 120 casting points IIRC.
Also, I didn't realize you could cast a spell over multiple turns.
I've done it before I think, but I didn't realize why it took my two turns.
@Wipqozn It took me quite a while to realize I could do that, until I tried casting something that required more casting points then I had. Because it would take forever to get to 120 casting points per turn.
@Arperum Yup, I thought that wasw strange.
Very good to know.
After this theocrat game I'll probably try a High Elf Sorcerer.
How many casting points/turn do you have? I have ~45 or 50 or something.
11:54
Or a High elf Rogue.
@Arperum In my current game I think I have 50.
I managed to take an enemy castle yesterday, albeit it was very costly.
HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
Wiped out 3 of his heroes, including his leader. I'm hoping I can take his throne sometime soonish, but not sure.
oh Valve.
his throne city isn't defended by too many units, but two of them are tier 3,which I don't have any of yet.
I need to rebuild some of my forces. Also, I haven't tried many of the theorcrat units yet. Just the one summonded unit he gets.
His tier 1 unit looks really great. The Martyr. They have an ability called "life link" which lets them take all damage for target allied unit.
@Wipqozn I've taken a throne city defended by a whole pile of tier 3's, with a single tier 3 myself. They made the dumb move of moving every single unit out of their walls on turn one though...
12:00
I might need to do a bit of testing to figure out exactly how it works. I'm assuming it calculates all damage as if attacking the life linked unit, and the martyr just takes damage. However it's possible it just transfers the attack to the Martyr completely, and does all calculations based on it's stats.
@Arperum Yeah, I don't have any Tier 3 built right now. My army is in rough shape.
@Wipqozn The only tier 3 I had was a summoned serpert that only has a melee attack.
I didn't have muc hin the way of ranged units when I sieged before. Big mistake.
I had nearly three stacks of units though, and he had half of that. The game said "equal battle or somesuch"
It's still pretty early game, so I'm hoping I can wipe this guy soon.
I really like how hard sieges are in this game.
Every siege feels like a big under taking,which is exactly how a siege should feel.
But also on his first turn he converted two of the three heroes I had with succubi...
That was a painfull move.
12:03
What a jerk.
Maybe I will try Rogue next.
I also didn't know that killing the succubi would stop the conversion early.
It make sense.
It sure does.
12:23
IT IS EARLY
I AM SHOPPING WITH MY MOM TODAY AND I CAN'T SLEEP
I LOVE SHOPPING
ALSO I AM NOT FUCKING GOATS
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@spugsley Please, tell us more about you not fucking goats today.
@MartinSojka I hate Goat Simulator
I hate it so much it makes me want to pee my pants
How many hours has @IanPugsley put down on Goat Simulator, anyways?
@Wipqozn That sounds wrong.
I think it was either TB or Jesse Cox who called Goat Simulator a "Youtuber bait", simply because it has no redeeming qualities as a game but seems to exist solely so people make "funny" videos with it.
12:34
Or that might be because brain doing a literal translation to Dutch for some reason.
@MartinSojka Wars have been started for less
> It has been compared to an old-school skating game, except instead of being a skater, you're a goat, and instead of doing tricks, you wreck stuff
and yes, just to be clear, I think Goat Simulator is going to cause the next war
> When it comes to goats, not even the sky is the limit, as you can probably just bug through it and crash the game.
> Disclaimer: Goat Simulator is a completely stupid game and, to be honest, you should probably spend your money on something else, such as a hula hoop, a pile of bricks, or maybe pool your money together with your friends and buy a real goat.
@Wipqozn also it causes murderous rampages
12:37
haha, great steam page
> MILLIONS OF BUGS! We're only eliminating the crash-bugs, everything else is hilarious and we're keeping it
> Seriously look at that goat's neck
I also like how it both starts and ends with "You can be a goat"
We should all buy Goat Simulator and then start talking about it in chat and asking questions on the main site.
@Wipqozn it might as well say: You can start a war.
The thing about goats is that they don't aim for wrecking stuff. All they do is eat everything.
And according to multiple other people stare at you creepily.
SOMEBODY MADE A SILLY THING. LET US ALL HATE ON THE SILLY THING. VIDYA GAMES ARE SRS BZNS
12:40
15 hours ago, by Fluttershy
@MichaelFrank We're always serious. Always.
@badp HATE IS BEST HATE
(also I... think that Saints Row 3/4 tries way harder than Goat Simulator at being this silly, but people don't hate bludgeoning people to death with giant pink dildos as much somehow)
@badp I am all for not being serious about gaming. I just fucking hate goats already. They are ugly and stupid and they eat and poop and poop and poop.
and poop and poop and poop and poop. So much poop.
And now there is a game about goats and there isn't even any poop.
it makes literally no sense.
Oh, you hate goats because they are basically just babies in animal form.
@Wipqozn yes. Oh my god yes. Thank you.
12:43
@spugsley You're welcome.
So what you're saying is I shouldn't buy you a copy of Goat Simulator?
@spugsley I don't see how goats are accountable for so much poop. I've grown up on a goat farm, and I know that cows are way worse at poop.
Also: goats are in general not the dumbest animal ever, not the smartest either though.
How are these things ugly? @spugsley
@Arperum they look like little demons
Good morning, Bridge
12:51
@spugsley But cute and cuddly demons at least!
Fun Fact: @spugsley actually loves baby goats.
@OrigamiRobot ONLY WHEN THEY ARE CLOMPING
GO BACK TO SLEEP NO ONE ASKED YOU
@MartinSojka probably TB, followed by Jesse Cox saying "I'll totally play that!"
@spugsley so, since you love butts, that means you love goats, qed.
THIS IS THE NECESSARY, INESCAPABLE, MATHEMATICALLY CERTAIN, LOGICALLY IRREPREHENSIBLE, OBVIOUS OUTCOME OF YOUR STATEMENTS
YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND YOUR LIES, BUT YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM YOURSELF
13:07
@badp you're confused. It's @FEi who likes butts and specifically, my butt
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Q: Why do games have limited print runs?

Horton322If I want to buy an album or film originally made 30 years ago, I can walk into a shop and buy it on CD or DVD. Why is the same not true of games? It's often said that 2nd hand sales do not benefit the developer, but if I wanted to buy even a recent game like Metroid Prime Trilogy it would be my...

@Lazers albums and films do have limited print too...
Anyone here import a JP Xbox 360 or know about modding a US one to play JP games?
@badp and more than half of those were conversations with @FEi
13:17
@spugsley You have 112 messages with "butts", @FEi has 37
THE TRUTH IS STARTING TO EMERGE
@badp I've been here longer than @FEi
@spugsley your account is roughly twice the age as FEi's, and yet your butt density is still double his
@badp ...which makes perfect sense.
double the age = double the butts
I am glad you agree, also 37 × 2 < 112
Butt density is different than butt quantity, silly
13:23
I am done with butts
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thanks @badp
slow claps for @badp
STAGE 1: DENIAL
STAGE 2: PUNCH @BADP IN THE FACE
(aka ANGER)
STAGE 3: GO ON A MURDEROUS RAMPAGE. PLAY GOAT SIMULATOR TO FUEL NEED FOR WAR
good, good. It is never healthy to bottle up one's
13:31
@spugsley Wait? Are you going to play goat simulator?
@Arperum ONLY TO FUEL MY RAGE
she's going to become the worldwide champion of goats, staring all day at butts thereof
@badp I could answder to that with a picture of goat butts, but it needs minor photoshops to cut out the irrelevant parts.
Seems like I'm not to lazy.
@Arperum the balls?
were there balls?
@spugsley No balls, I just had to cut the old me away. because I look horrible without a beard.
13:38
@Arperum hahahaha
(That arm is mine, I was cleaning the udder of that goat to milk her)
I've just read a news article about buying houses around here: seems like the average single person buys a first house when he/she is 37 years old. I'm 26 and buying a house...
Nice
I'm gonna try to beat you though =p
Well, for age
Too many pins
@KevinvanderVelden I live alone since a couple months before I turned 25
@Sterno needs more pins. You should totally pin your message
13:46
I HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT YOUR BUTT IN DAYS, @SPUGS
@FEichinger Uhm...
@Arp Shuddup, they started.
2 days ago, by FEichinger
BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS
That's general butts though.
ALso, was that really two days ago?
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Q: Nimrook learning Anti-Venom 2 or Drain?

NinjakrebornI am playing BlitzBall quite a bit, and I cannot seem to learn Venom Tackle 2 or Drain with Nimrook. They are both grayed out. He is not full, and has already learned Anti-Venom. Does anyone know what is going on with this?

See? Days. And not her butt.
It was Monday night. I was drunk as butt.
Also: butt. Butt butt butt.
BUUUUUUUTT.
13:52
@FEichinger but butt?
@Sterno noooooo, since @fredley removed my ownership I can't pin this!
@Wipqozn CURSE YOU @fredley!
But if you pin it, YOU SHALL SUFFER
@Sterno I think he'll have to pin a whole pile of other messages.
cc @Wipqozn
13:59
Sterno has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.
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NOW SUFFER

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