TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2014-01-21 (page 1 of 2)

Code Mocker

01:00

As people in physics.stackexchange.com are not interested in solving this kind of problem, probably you can help me here. The problem is depicted as follows. Find the instantaneous acceleration of each box right after the red thread is cut. In my calculation only the fourth box gets accelerated by g(m1+m2-m3-m4)/m4, other boxes don't get accelerated, it means a=0 for other boxes. So do you get the same result?

Speravir

01:16

@CodeMocker The female incredible creature I loved more. ;-)

@PauloCereda and perhaps @tohecz Since I haven't been here for some time – I picked this some months ago: SynthCats.

Dennis

02:31

Anyone know of any good considerations in favor of using mathdesign as opposed to using mathastext (or vice versa)? I'm using baskervald as my normal text font and have been using it with the charter option set on mathdesign, but I recently learned of the mathastext package. Are there any reasons to prefer one or the other option?

Code Mocker

02:48

@Speravir :-)

@egreg: Is it time to sleep?

Speravir

@CodeMocker Here in Europe normally yes, but if you’re a night owl …

Code Mocker

@Speravir :-)

Code Mocker

06:14

@egreg: I have an algebra problem:

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Q: How to find the closed solution for the following recursive vector equations?

Let $\hat{v}_n$ be a unit vector where $\hat{v}_1=\hat{y}$ and let $\vec{r}_n=\vec{r}_{n-1}+\hat{v}_n$ where $\vec{r}_0=\hat{x}$, $\lvert\vec{r}_n\rvert=\sqrt{n+1}$ and $\vec{r}_{n-1}\cdot\hat{v}_n=0$. How can we find $\hat{v}_n$ in a closed form?

vectors

Nicola Talbot

08:58

@PauloCereda Thanks :-)

Paulo Cereda

09:13

@NicolaTalbot My pleasure. :) I blame Marco for writing the rule. :P

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-)

(I blame whoever came up with the crazy idea of allowing spaces in file names.)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Should makeglossaries "my book" work?

Quite odd, the rule seems OK.

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Should now work with the latest release (with glossaries v4.03)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Ah! So the problem was the extension part?

Current rule has:

command: <arara> makeglossaries @{options} "@{getBasename(file)}"

I could rewrite it to

command: <arara> makeglossaries @{options} "@{getBasename(file)}.aux"

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda No, makeglossaries won't like that.

Paulo Cereda

09:18

@NicolaTalbot Oh! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda makeglossaries is very fussy!

Paulo Cereda

<3

Why people use filenames with spaces? They are evil!

Nicola Talbot

If an extension is supplied it assumes it's a glossary file and doesn't bother parsing the aux file.

Paulo Cereda

:)

@NicolaTalbot ooh!

Nicola Talbot

Calling makeglossaries "file with spaces" directly picks up the aux file as file\ with\ spaces.aux but using arara "file with spaces" makes makeglossaries look for the file \"file with spaces\".aux

Paulo Cereda

09:21

@Nicola: I could detect spaces in the filename; if found, I delete all the home folder! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda lol :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Oh my!

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda If it's any comfort, these makeglossaries tests picked up a bug in MiKTeX (@Speravir noticed and filed a bug report).

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Phew. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-) Maybe I should just add a line to makeglossaries that strips any leading and trailing double-quotes in the file name. (Surely no one would be mad enough to create a file where the name starts and ends with a quote mark. Or would they?)

Paulo Cereda

09:29

@NicolaTalbot I don't doubt. :)

My dad used to have documents with the filename longer than the content. :P

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Wow! Sigh, I remember the 10 character limit on RISC OS file names in the old days.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Do you know a song named País Tropical?

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda No, it sounds warm and summery. :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot :) It's a very famous song. Just the first verse, Moro num país tropical, abençoado por Deus e bonito por natureza...; a long time ago there was an ad on TV (probably a beer one) that used this song, but they just sang the first part of the words, mo num pa tropi abençoa por De e boni por nature; I had a friend that was a Clipper programmer and said this song was surely made by a Clipper programmer (variables with only 4 letters). :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-) Yay, let's see who can guess what the variable wxyz represents!

Paulo Cereda

09:39

@NicolaTalbot LOL

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Adding the line $name=~s/^"(.*)"$/$1/; to makeglossaries (after my $name = $ARGV[0];) fixes the problem.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh!

@Nicola: that reminds me of a rule I wrote for Andrew which relies on regex:

Aug 23 '13 at 14:03, by Paulo Cereda

!config
# XeLaTeX rule for arara with file replacement
# author: Marco Daniel
# last edited by: Andrew Stacey
# requires arara 3.0+
identifier: xelatexrpl
name: XeLaTeX replace
command: <arara> xelatex @{action} @{shell} @{synctex} @{options} "@{format}"
arguments:
- identifier: action
  flag: <arara> --interaction=@{parameters.action}
- identifier: shell
  flag: <arara> @{isTrue(parameters.shell,"--shell-escape","--no-shell-escape")}
- identifier: synctex
  flag: <arara> @{isTrue(parameters.synctex,"--synctex=1","--synctex=0")}

And the call is quite amusing as well:

Aug 23 '13 at 14:04, by Paulo Cereda

Then you go with % arara: xelatexrpl: { format: 'beamer to handout' }

Hm odd the quote didn't expand to full text.

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Ooh! :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot I'm wacky. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda It's okay, it's got a link back to the original :-)

Joseph Wright

10:02

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Q: Superior Alternatives to MathType in place of Latex

I brook that Latex can be faster than MathType. Per contra, whenever Latex is slower than something like MathType, what are some alternatives to Latex and MathType ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_WorkPlace seems arcane? Inasmuch as I'm a beginner with Latex, I find it toilsome to typ...

tools

Do people understand this question? If so, is it on topic?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Kill it with fire.

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda New user: be friendly

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright <3

egreg

@JosephWright And quite pedantic, judging from comments on Math.SE.

egreg

10:26

@JosephWright Can one verb an adjective? Like in “Blank lines tantamount to \par”.

Nicola Talbot

@egreg nouns can be verbified, but I'm not sure about adjectives.

I think it would be better as "Blank lines are tantamount to \par" although "Blank lines are equivalent to \par" would be easier to read, I think.

Paulo Cereda

Blanks lines are \par'ified.

woohoo!

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-)

David Carlisle

11:06

@NicolaTalbot I think it would be clearer to say two adjacent characters of catcode 5 cause a \par token to be generated by TeX's parser.

Nicola Talbot

@DavidCarlisle Definitely clearer with no laxity in grammer :-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda although it's not the full story (you can have spaces in between:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh plot twist! :)

Kartik

11:39

Hello everyone! I think I have found a tex easter egg. Run tex story and type \end to see it. I tested it on both miktex and texlive.

Joseph Wright

@Kartik That's from The TeXbook

Kartik

I know, but why does it work even without the file?

Joseph Wright

@Kartik It doesn't: it loads story.tex from your texmf tree

In my case:

c:/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/tex/plain/base/story.tex

Stephan Lehmke

@Kartik Try kpsewhich story.tex.

Kartik

So why is it there in the tree?

Joseph Wright

11:44

@Kartik Part of the base plain distribution

Kartik

Why have they included it in the distrib6tion?

Joseph Wright

@Kartik Part of Knuth's set: ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/plain/base

Kartik

Ok, i found the file.

David Carlisle

12:10

@Kartik It's useful to have runnable examples in the input path, for latex try pdflatex sample2e

Nicola Talbot

12:24

Hmm, don't want to be hard on a new member, but this answer needs correcting. What do people suggest?

David Carlisle

@NicolaTalbot it's deleted:-)

Nicola Talbot

@DavidCarlisle Oh, that was quick.

@PauloCereda Just noticed the same problem occurs with the makeindex directive:

% arara: pdflatex
% arara: makeindex
% arara: pdflatex

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{makeidx}

\makeindex

\begin{document}
\index{duck}Duck!

\printindex
\end{document}

Save as file with spaces.tex and do arara "file with spaces".

Running MakeIndex...

Input index file "file with spaces.idx" not found.
Usage: makeindex [-ilqrcgLT] [-s sty] [-o ind] [-t log] [-p num] [idx0 idx1 ...]
FAILURE

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Oh my!

David Carlisle

@NicolaTalbot people who put spaces in filenames deserve no sympathy.

Paulo Cereda

I'll take a look, I promise. :)

Nicola Talbot

12:33

@DavidCarlisle Definitely, but they still do it and complain when things go wrong!

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot: I might blame the exec lib. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda No, blame the user ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Them too. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda People have been asking lately if TeX has any easter eggs. Perhaps DK could insert one that makes TeX scream with rage if \jobname contains spaces ;-)

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Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh definitely! :)

Better: arara refuses to work if files with spaces are found.

David Carlisle

12:38

@NicolaTalbot Ignore them:-)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda It could play that duck song every time it encounters a file name with spaces. That would quickly stop the habit. :-)

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot LOL

David Carlisle

@NicolaTalbot well in the original DK code I think it would never contain a space as a space would stop the filename scan. Karl (I think) added the " feature that lets you quote weird filenames in kpathsea

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot or this one: youtube.com/watch?v=41_formj58w

:)

Nicola Talbot

@DavidCarlisle I'm just waiting for the day that someone decides to call their file mydoc; rm -rf ~.tex

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@PauloCereda LOL. I think the duck one's far more annoying :-)

Paulo Cereda

12:44

@NicolaTalbot LOL agreed. :)

egreg

13:27

@PauloCereda I propose the Monty Python march when somebody uses the empty name control sequence (see last fixed bug).

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Oh my! :)

Paulo Cereda

14:32

ooh chocolate!

Nicola Talbot

14:58

@PauloCereda Oh! Where? Is it a TeX easter egg? :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Nah, it was a real chocolate! Now it's misteriously gone! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Ooh! The Mystery of the Disappearing Chocolate. Will Detective Duck and his plucky sidekick Sergeant Arara solve the case?

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Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda It was the butler!

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh the butter! I mean, the butler! :)

@Nicola: before I send you this link, how's your Portuguese understanding? :)

Nicola Talbot

15:03

@PauloCereda It's enhanced by the power of Google Translate :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot LOL it was actually a video from YouTube. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda If it's someone asking "where's the bathroom?" I'll understand it :-)

Paulo Cereda

@Nicola: when I was a kid, there was a TV show featuring hand puppets (mostly dogs). One of the recurring characters was Roberval, the chocolate thief. :)

@NicolaTalbot: youtube.com/watch?v=n1VsmQyvXbU

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Ooh! The only Brazilian TV I can remember watching was (I think) a soap opera (1991, I think) but I can't remember what it was about.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot :)

Nicola Talbot

15:07

@PauloCereda Oh, that's far more entertaining :-) Why wasn't I shown that when I was in Brazil?

I like the dog's spotty tie :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot :P

Paulo Cereda

15:28

@NicolaTalbot: issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXEC-54

D'oh. :(

Nicola Talbot

15:41

@PauloCereda Hmm :-( Maybe the simplest thing is to just put a note in the manual about not having spaces in the file name.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot I like this idea. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-) When you come to the UK you'll have to bring one of these with you in case it's cold. :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot awww :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Oh, there's a cat one as well.

And a penguin.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot We could make a play!

The brave penguin!

egreg

15:49

@PauloCereda Roberval was a mathematician, not a good friend of Descartes

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Ahh! :-)

egreg

Gilles de Roberval

Gilles Personne de Roberval (August 10, 1602 – October 27, 1675), French mathematician, was born at Roberval, Oise, near Beauvais, France. His name was originally Gilles Personne or Gilles Personier, that of Roberval, by which he is known, being taken from the place of his birth. Like René Descartes, he was present at the siege of La Rochelle in 1627 . In the same year he went to Paris, where he was appointed to the chair of philosophy at Gervais College in 1631, and two years later to the chair of mathematics at the Royal College of France. A condition of tenure attached to this chair ...

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Oh my!

@Nicola: Joseph, according to his profile photo, has his own live-action duck. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-)

Harish Kumar

\usepackage[paracetomol,aspirin]{medicine} :(

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Nicola Talbot

16:03

@HarishKumar :-( Get well soon!

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar Oh no! :(

egreg

@HarishKumar Flu? Get well soon!

Code Mocker

Herbert changed his display picture.

Speravir

@NicolaTalbot The infinite monkey problem. If it is posibble, some user will. But in Windos it is not possible, because Windows strips the double quotes. In fact it helps sometimes to save a file with double quotes: In Notepad and surely other default Microsoft programs you get then exactly the intended name, and Windows does not add a file extension (the default for this program).

Harish Kumar

Slight fever and severe head ache :( Fever coursey - My son :) Thanks @NicolaTalbot @PauloCereda and @egreg

@egreg Fever isn't heavy. But headache is :)

egreg

16:10

@HarishKumar Pascal did research on the cycloid when he had toothache.

Paulo Cereda

@CodeMocker And apparently now Herbert is 18! :)

Speravir

@NicolaTalbot But then again must be tested, that in Windows not more than one file is recognized. Or this this explicitely not for Windows?

Harish Kumar

@egreg hehe, very encouraging :)

Nicola Talbot

@Speravir That's true. I'll add a check to makeglossaries but the makeindex arara directive will still have a problem. (@PauloCereda It's odd that the problem doesn't manifest itself with the pdflatex directive. I wonder if it happens with others, like bibtex)

egreg

@PauloCereda He came of age, finally!

Harish Kumar

16:11

Gonzalo on heavy action :)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot I should track the expansion someday. :)

@egreg Our little boy is growing up so fast. :)

Nicola Talbot

@Speravir The problem isn't there when running makeglossaries directly only when it's being called by arara.

Paulo Cereda

@Speravir I'm the one in trouble, not Nicola. :)

Code Mocker

@PauloCereda His age changed to 18 several months ago.

Paulo Cereda

Unless I officially add Nicola as part of the team and share the blame with her. Hmmmmmm...

@CodeMocker Oh.

Nicola Talbot

16:14

@PauloCereda Oh no! Run away! :-)

Speravir

@PauloCereda Ah, this patch code was for arara?

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Welcome to the team! Let's share the bla... I mean, some cookies. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Mmm. Coookiees. Oh, get the Cookie Monster on the team :-)

Paulo Cereda

@Speravir Yes. :) But it's not makeglossaries fault. :) It's mine. :)

Nicola Talbot

@Speravir Or anything else that exhibits a similar phenomenon, but it was using arara in my tests that drew my attention to the problem.

Speravir

16:17

@NicolaTalbot I thought you wanted to add this to makeglossaries, hence my comments.

Nicola Talbot

@Speravir Sorry for being confusing. I'm going to add the patch to makeglossaries to give arara a helping hand :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Wait a little more, please. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Okay. I only uploaded glossaries v4.03 yesterday, so I was going to give the CTAN team a break from me for a while :-) (I also uploaded a new version of datatool last week.)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot :)

Speravir

@NicolaTalbot But then I am right: You must go safe not to strip too many double quotes, but also not to leave too many. (I guess I already said I do not fully understand the Perl code, did I?) Exactly one pair with the filename in between is good.

Nicola Talbot

16:23

@Speravir Yes, that's what the patch does (only do the subtitution where the name exactly starts and ends with a double-quote).

Speravir

@NicolaTalbot You silently recognized, that I only wrote about Windows, thanks. ;-)

Nicola Talbot

@Speravir :-)

Speravir

BTW @PauloCereda I’m a little, little bit sad: Did you not get a mention for my posting with the link to SynthCats?

Paulo Cereda

@Speravir Oh my! I didn't get the notification!

They are lovely! :) And naughty! :)

Speravir

@PauloCereda I knew you will love it!

@PauloCereda From the latest ones: Puss finds the full octave stretch a challenge. and Puss adopts the less orthodox nose technique..

Paulo Cereda

16:33

@Speravir awwww <3

tohecz

@PauloCereda Hi man!

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Hi Tom! :)

tohecz

@HarishKumar In my case, it's

\usepackage{medicine}\addmedicine[daily=3000]{paracetamol}\addmedicine[eardrops‌]{corticoids}\addmedicine[eardrops]{acid}

@PauloCereda as you can read above, I've got some medical troubles

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Oh my! :(

Speravir

Oh @tohecz Do you like cats? Then look some postings earlier for Synthcats.

Johannes_B

16:43

@tohecz Missing unit of measure, pt inserted in daily=3000 ;-)

tohecz

My left ear tunnel is swollen, and the inflammation managed to affect the upper jig as well, so I have troubles eating, and the pain is so strong that even the maximum daily dose of paracetamol doesn't manage to remove the pain, only to reduce it slightly

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz In France?

tohecz

@PauloCereda in the Netherlands, fortunately

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Oh.

tohecz

@PauloCereda Dutch people are: (1) positive (2) easy-going (3) open-minded (4) helping (5) speaking English

Paulo Cereda

16:47

@tohecz :)

Tom, get out of the internet, go have some rest. :)

tohecz

so far it cost me only EUR 54, which is bearable, and there's a hope that I get the money back

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz For an inflammation I'd have expected Ibuprofen. At least I'm getting far better results than with Paracetamol.

tohecz

@PauloCereda I just got home from the conference, I slept during and after the talks

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz :)

tohecz

@StephanLehmke they recommended paracetamol for this type of inflammation. But I'll consult my mommy, she's a retired pharmacist

the biggest problem is not the pain during the day, but the fact that I can't sleep :(

Paulo Cereda

16:50

@tohecz Things could be worse: the prescription could be written in a Word document with italic + bold Comic Sans. (I'm trying to cheer you up) :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda lol

i vuv you:)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Tom, get some hot towel and put near your ear, it might help. :)

@tohecz <3

Johannes_B

@tohecz Get well soon

tohecz

@PauloCereda I'll get a hot towel and probably jump in a hot tub :)

@Johannes_B thanks. btw the pt joke was good :D sorry for not responding to it

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Just don't mix things and get the hot tub and jump into a hot towel. :)

tohecz

16:53

@PauloCereda lol. but first I want to see the temperature in the room increase. I've a slightly higher temperature probably, so the room needs to be heated when I get out :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz What's your body temperature right now?

In Celsius please. :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda I don't have a thermometer. In the hospital at the morning, 7 hours after last pain killer, it was 37.7, which is quite ok, considering my state

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Hm potential fever state.

tohecz

@PauloCereda there is. but the drops should start to do their job, and when the inflammation gets better, the basic temp will drop.

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Yes.

Speravir

16:57

@StephanLehmke You have dealt with special placing of margin notes and the like in past IIRC. Did you notice the new packages scrlayer and scrlayer-notecolumn in KOMA-Script bundle?

tohecz

@PauloCereda don't forget that I have a rescue and child care minimum and that my mom is a pharmacist, I know something about this stuff

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Ah! :)

tohecz

OTOH, I wasn't of course able to distingush inflammation from a swollen ear tunnel from an inflammation of the middle ear and the eardrum

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir No, but I'm a bit like David - I'm not using LaTeX for myself at all since at least 10 years; only when I'm answering questions here :-)

Joseph Wright

@StephanLehmke Very public-spirited!

Paulo Cereda

16:59

@StephanLehmke To be honest, I just use arara when I'm writing answers here as well. :P

Speravir

@StephanLehmke Oh, I thought you wanted to develope something. I do remember wrong, it seems.

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir Where can I find information on them? CTAN and TeXdoc online come up blank.

@Speravir Well I can still develop something, can't I? :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Germans are awesome. :)

tohecz

btw, I just found that 2 pills of paracetamol last for about 5 hours. THE PAIN IS BACK .. FUCK

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz That's one big problem with most pain killers I know. Also really bad when our kids have fever: after 5 hours 40° again, and still one hour to go until you can give another dose :-(

Speravir

17:03

@StephanLehmke In scrguide.pdf assuming you can understand German. ;-) For version 3.12 chapters 16 and 18.

Harish Kumar

@tohecz Oh my... I get only headache frequently

tohecz

@StephanLehmke well, the maximum dose for adults is 6x500 a day, so I could make it every 4 hours and be fine. For children: My parents have never used any fever killers on us when we were children. They used hot tea and cold packaging only, and they took shifts in being awake with us the whole night

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir Where can I find it? TeXdoc online has a version dated "2012-07-22" which doesn't seem to contain it.

Speravir

@StephanLehmke This needs to be updated. Don’t you have a local version?

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz Which is a nuisance, isn't it? What would that be good for apart from feeling heroic afterwards? (no offense meant ;-)

@Speravir Er, how can I make an update of TeXdoc online?

tohecz

17:08

@StephanLehmke well, usage of painkillers isn't good, it's only comfortable for both the doctor and the parent. When I was young, there was no painkiller pills or syrop for children, it simply didn't exist.

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir My local version has the same date. Sorry, I'm not updating TeXlive just to look what this package is doing.

Speravir

@StephanLehmke Take this link: mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/koma-script/doc/…

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz What exactly is not good about it? It makes you able to keep going, which is the one most important requirement for healing.

tohecz

@StephanLehmke it's quite heavy on your livers, and it's not really well tolerated by the stomach, likely causing vomitting. Usually, this is now suppressed by some additives in the syrop. Btw, I remember that there used to be paracetamol suppositories for the most serious cases, but you couldn't get them for free

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz Do you have any quotation for this? I read a lot (of stuff for non-professionals) on Paracetamol, and the conclusion was always that there is no problem unless you overdose.

tohecz

17:16

@StephanLehmke I use my mom as a source, she's been a pharmacist since 1980.

and sorry, I'm not exactly in mood for arguing now, for an obvious reason. So let's just stop it ;)

David Carlisle

I'm going home, anyone care to explain this before I get there:-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/155251/…

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir Ah thanks. I should have looked on CTAN in the first place :-) The package seems to be useful, but it's hard to fathom its expressive power by skimming the doc. I'd probably need an involved example to understand better what it does. But I'd be really surprised if this works:

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A: Minipage larger than pagesize

You could take advantage of the new scrlayer packages in the new KOMA-script version (3.12). The column in the margin will continue, if necessary, on the next page. To me, this seems something rather new. However, you'd need longtable and I did not really test that. Just as an example I add some ...

ppr

Hi everyone

ComFreek

Hi

I have got \documentclass{article}\begin{document}Ä\end{document}. I am using LuaTeX for compiling, but, unfortunately, my PDF document is empty. I've already verified the UTF-8 encoding of my .tex file.

However, it works if I add \usepackage[utf8]{luainputenc}, but I've read that this is not recommended.

egreg

@ComFreek You need to load fontspec

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\begin{document}
Ä
\end{document}

ppr

17:25

Question : How do you cite in a beamer presentation? I would like to use an authoryear style but if all the (full) references are at the end of the presentation, it is quite hard to see them for the audience.

ComFreek

@egreg Awesome, it works! Thanks!

ppr

Are there special bibliography styles for presentation?

egreg

@ppr Not that I know.

ComFreek

Hmm, it would be worth a question, wouldn't it? I'm also interested.

Alan Munn

@ppr I use author/year and most people know the relevant citations anyway if they are fairly knowledgeable of your area, and if not, they probably don't need to know the actual reference.

I've sometimes seen very minimal references used in key places (like Author, Year, Journal Name+volume).

But usually these are the ones of the presenter's own work. (No judgment being passed here.)

ppr

17:38

@AlanMunn thanks it is also what I do (I have references at the end but there are useless during the talk).

@ComFreek I opened a question in the case someone know a bibliographical solution designed for beamer .

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Q: What bibliography style should I use in a presentation?

I am using authoryear (from biblatex) style for articles. However, for beamer presentations, this style is not useful. Indeed, the complete references are cited at the end of the presentation ; so I have severals slides with only references. I will not take 5 min at the end of my presentation to ...

beamer biblatex

Alan Munn

@ppr Yes, they are, but still important to have, I think, in case anyone asks. I use biblatex especially when I use beamer because it's easy to customize the reference list. It also wouldn't be hard to create a minimized version of \fullcite for the ones where you want the kind of reference I mentioned.

@ppr If nobody gives you a good answer, I may have a stab at one, but right now I don't have any time to do so.

ComFreek

@ppr Thanks for taking time to write this question. +1 & fav from me ;)

ppr

@AlanMunn ok I will leave the question open for several days (so you will have the time to add something if you want).

ComFreek

Does anyone know a package for drawing license plates? I couldn't find one on Google.

Alan Munn

@ComFreek One suspects it's a low demand item. :) It wouldn't be too hard to do with TikZ I should think.

Paulo Cereda

17:50

@AlanMunn Probably longtable. :)

ComFreek

I'm trying to create it using tabular

Alan Munn

Although for US license plates, there are now so many varieties with art that wouldn't be easy to reproduce. European ones would be a lot easier, given how boringly standard they are.

ComFreek

Well, they are very easy in Germany :D

Alan Munn

@ComFreek And that's what you're after?

ComFreek

I've seen some really cool things made in LaTeX (on tex.se), so I thought that a license plate package might also exist. Anyway, is there a way to specify a custom align for a whole row in a tabular environment?

I could only find questions demanding a specific align for a single cell.

Alan Munn

17:59

36

Q: Make first row of table all bold

I'm trying to do something that I thought would be relatively simple but seems to be quite hard. I have a table with a number of columns, and I'd like to make all of the titles appear in bold text. Obviously I can add \textbf to each of them in turn, but it strikes me that there must be a nicer w...

tables formatting bold

(Despite the question, the answer is more general)

See also:

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A: Justify Table by Row

The standard way to justify the heading rows of a small table is to use the \multicolumn command, which allows you to override the column specification for each span of rows. In this example, I've used the booktabs package, which is highly recommended for any professional looking table. \docume...

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot: Gimme 3 minutes, I might have good news! :)

Code Mocker

I just knew that color can be written with dot, e.g., fillcolor=.!30

Speravir

@StephanLehmke After replacing with an existing image it worked (the text overlaps the image, too). BTW I’m 99.9 ~~Fahrenh~~ % sure, that Keks dose is the co-author of scrjura, cf. tex.blogoverflow.com/contributors I had other indices, too, which I cannot find now.

@StephanLehmke No, 100%: Blog post on new KOMAscript release (v3.11), with new English manual.

Nicola Talbot

18:20

@PauloCereda Yay :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Actually it didn't work. :P

Yay @barbarabeeton is here! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Oh :-( Can I be a pain and ask if you could add a datatooktk directive for arara?

barbara beeton

hi, @PauloCereda

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Of course we can, you are now officially in the team. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-) I'm working on volume 3 of my LaTeX series and it'd be useful to have it in the examples.

barbara beeton

18:23

actually, i'm only here to try to find out if @egreg got some messages i sent him by email. he hasn't answered ...

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton Let's ping him! :)

egreg

@barbarabeeton I'll look later.

Paulo Cereda

Oh.

I was gonna ~~spam~~ try. :)

barbara beeton

@egreg -- thanks. now, back to debugging ...

egreg

@barbarabeeton Answered to the good news!

Speravir

18:37

BTW @PauloCereda I just reread A new milestone. If one person is awesome, then it's you! Honestly.

Paulo Cereda

@Speravir Thanks for the kind words, but I really don't deserve the praise. :) The community here is awesome as a whole. :)

Stephan Lehmke

@Speravir I'm gonna install a new TeXlive tonight. I want to see with my own eyes that the longtable thingy works ;-)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda It wouldn't be as much fun without the ducks, though ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot :)

The more ducks, the quackier. :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda LOL :-)

Paulo Cereda

18:44

@NicolaTalbot Shakespearian poetry right there. :)

Nicola Talbot

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@PauloCereda ^^

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot OMG

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda There's another good one:

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Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh!

Speravir

@StephanLehmke Oh, I didn't take a closer look on that. It just runs without error … Look again … Yes, seems to work (left in grey one of the images from mwe, the additional line comes from showframe, that I added):

ComFreek

19:20

@AlanMunn Thanks for the link!

Dennis

19:34

tex.stackexchange.com/questions/14512/…

That question has an answer where a new package was created to answer the question

I've seen that marked by mods (or others) within the question (or answer)

is that something we try to do on every such question?

Nicola Talbot

@Dennis I think so, but I don't know what the boilerplate text is for that. Maybe ask @JosephWright

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot Not sure we have a boilerplate: isn't it just the 'quote' environment with 'This question led to the creation of ...' in it

Paulo Cereda

This question led to the creation of another question

Henri Menke

Hello everybody. I have a short question: I nearly always use the KOMA-classes for typesetting and the `titlesec` package to customize the headings. But with recent KOMA versions I get

Class scrbook Warning: Usage of package `titlesec' together
(scrbook) with a KOMA-Script class is not recommended.

Is there a good alternative to `titlesec`, which is compatible with KOMA or another "best practice"?

Joseph Wright

@HenriMenke Doesn't KOMA have it's own interfaces for this?

cgnieder

19:49

@HenriMenke If you like titlesec and accept the fact that you'll not be able to use KOMA-Script's own options for customizing the headings you can ignore the warning.

@HenriMenke Or you re-read your copy of the KOMA-SCript book ;) and learn its own interface

Henri Menke

@JosephWright AFAIK, one can only adjust some lengths, like \chapterheadstartvskip and the font via \setkomafont{...}.

Nicola Talbot

@HenriMenke KOMA provides \addtokomafont for customising the headings. I've got some information about it in my tutorials

@JosephWright Perhaps it's worth adding it to the text building blocks.

@PauloCereda LOL :-)

cgnieder

@HenriMenke if you know how you can do much more than this (tex.stackexchange.com/a/94703)

@PauloCereda :)

Henri Menke

@NicolaTalbot I'm normally producing things like this (pdf) (Not mine, but still a good showcase). I don't know how create these things with the KOMA interface.

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder: one day as part of the arara team and Nicola already found a bug. Why do I pay you guys for? :P

Henri Menke

19:54

@cgnieder Thanks for the link. Interesting indeed, but using \patchcmd for styling chapters seems very tedious to me.

cgnieder

@PauloCereda using spaces in file names is the bug. It's not arara's fault if users do s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶ strange things

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder Agreed. close-as-invalid-flag, not-our-problem and let's have some beer. :)

cgnieder

@PauloCereda good plan! :)

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder German folks are the majority in the team, so we need to have some good beer around. :)

cgnieder

@PauloCereda lol

@HenriMenke well, that was an extreme and maybe not very good example. Here's another example that I am using currently in one of my documents:

\documentclass{scrbook}
\usepackage{etoolbox,tikz,microtype}
\usepackage{libertine}

\RequirePackage{xcoffins}
% \NewCoffin\mainheading
\NewCoffin\chapterrule
\NewCoffin\chapternumber

\KOMAoption{headings}{twolinechapter}
\setkomafont{sectioning}{\normalfont}

\newlength\chapternumberwidth
\settowidth\chapternumberwidth{\large40}

\setkomafont{chapter}{\huge\lsstyle\MakeUppercase}
\newrobustcmd*\chapternumberstyle[1]{\large\textcolor{gray!50}{\textls[0]{#1}}}

\newbool{chapternumbered}

\newlength\chapterlinelength

Henri Menke

20:10

@cgnieder Looks nice, thanks for the suggestion. Do you hook into \chapterheadendvskip to place the chapter number using xcoffins?

cgnieder

@HenriMenke yes

Nicola Talbot

20:27

@PauloCereda I had a go at the datatooltk directive:

!config
# DatatoolTk rule for arara
identifier: datatooltk
name: DatatoolTk
command: <arara> datatooltk @{options} --output @{out}
arguments:
- identifier: options
  flag: <arara> @{parameters.options}
- identifier: out
  flag: <arara> @{parameters.out}

What d'you think?

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Perfect!

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda :-)

Stephan Lehmke

Installing TeXlive 2013...

Paulo Cereda

@StephanLehmke Woohoo!

@DavidCarlisle: we missed you!

David Carlisle

21:04

@PauloCereda you could have been answering the little problem I set above

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Which one?

David Carlisle

4 hours ago, by David Carlisle

I'm going home, anyone care to explain this before I get there:-) http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/155251/highlighting-in-tabular-environmen‌t/155258#155258

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda who wrote that package anyway?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Frank, I'm sure. :)

David Carlisle

21:09

@PauloCereda well we could blame him, certainly.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle We could also blame Joseph, he seems to fix stuff pretty quickly. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda let's try:

@JosephWright Paulo says it's your fault ^^^^^

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Hey!

Joseph Wright

What did I do?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright see last few comments in log:-)

Paulo Cereda

21:11

@JosephWright I did nothing. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda you can protest your innocence when we interview you

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh.

tohecz

21:38

gotta go, please cross your fingers for me that I have a calm night

Nicola Talbot

@tohecz Get well soon!

tohecz

@NicolaTalbot thanks!

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Sleep well, Tom! :)

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda Found a name for your next application (since you're going with animal-based names):

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Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot No thanks! :P

Nicola Talbot

21:46

@PauloCereda :-)

Stephan Lehmke

TeXLive download and install completed. Now that was a breeze :-)

Joseph Wright

@StephanLehmke :-)

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