The Bridge

12:00 AM

> It was announced in October 2013 that the United Nations, under the authority of the High Commissioner for Human Rights were to investigate whether Zwarte Piet is a racist stereotype. The Dutch government responded by stating that the Sinterklaas celebration is a tradition for children in the Netherlands.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Also the site of the most I have ever had to drink in one night in my life.

OrigamiRobot

Maybe that's on oversimplification of what was actually said, but that's so dumb.

FAE

I didn't finish my BA there, stopped due to some other circumstances, but was there from fall '03 to beginning of spring '05ish.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot totally sidesteps the issue, don't it?

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz That has to be an impressive amount.

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:00 AM

@FAE an entire 5th of vodka. plus other stuff.

Unionhawk

Oh damn.

Wipqozn

I hate when people use "it's tradition" as an argument.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Hurgh.

Wipqozn

It's literally the worse argument ever.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Dumb 20 year old at a party on a college campus. It's tradition!

fbueckert

12:01 AM

Oh. Found the teapot.

FAE

@Wipqozn "fear of losing our cultural identity" gets tossed around a lot.

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn Your FACE is literally the worse argument ever. OOO

^ Incidentally, that is actually the worst argument ever.

FAE

@LessPop There's also a lot of "Well, I don't have a problem with it and I'm black" going on here as well as "It's only a vocal minority of people who have an issue with it"

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz "Uncle Remus is a racist caricature." "Br'er Rabbit is a traditional children's tale."

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Yeah, the collective societal erasure of the memory that the depiction of Piet as a pollywog is only, what, 80 years old? seems to totally escape these people.

@OrigamiRobot Song of the South is a fine Disney Film.

Oh hey, a goon mirrored the thread offsite, so you other people can read it: forum.hakkenberg.com/piet

OrigamiRobot

12:05 AM

I was told the Br'er Rabbit stories as bedtime stories. Guess what wasn't included? Uncle Remus.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz I still won't use the word "neger" in Dutch.

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz other people? I AM OFFEND

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk People that are not goons

OrigamiRobot

> Until the second half of the 20th century, Saint Nicholas' helper was not too bright, in line with the old colonial traditions.[clarification needed] Once immigration started from the former colonised countries, Zwarte Piet became a much more respected assistant of Saint Nicholas, often inattentive, but playful

FAE

The prevailing cultural opinion over here tends to be something like "the past is the past, we made mistakes and hurt people, but the people who made those mistakes are no longer alive to atone and the people who were hurt are no longer alive to suffer, so let's all let it be."

Unionhawk

12:13 AM

You know, I have quite a number of people that have ended up on Steam friends, and I have no clue how that happened. I don't know who you are, the one called Craig, and who still has a stupid Wheatly avatar, that game came out forever ago, move on now

Ah. He's got one game. That explains it.

So, Portal 2 co-op with randoms is how. K.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I'd watch these videos if you plan to buy EUIV. The first 3 are fairly long and goes over the in-game tutorial, so you can skip that (I did), but I'd suggest looking over the others.

Unionhawk

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Unionhawk

12:27 AM

There we go, Steam friends organized. I now have all the people I don't care about separated from the bridge people

FAE

@Unionhawk Why not just... unfriend them if you don't care about them?

Unionhawk

@FAE Well, real friends from internet friends from internet random-people-who-aren't-asses

Fluttershy

@FAE Stop making sense! That's silly.

FAE

@Fluttershy I know, right? This happens when I'm tired.

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