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tchrist

12:00 PM

I think I must have missed that comment chain.

Just as well.

RegDwighт

I don't know him as closely as you do...

tchrist

Read his prophile.

RegDwighт

Yeah. No. Still don't get it.

tchrist

And he’s into dogs.

That’s another insular reference, of course.

> Canariae Insulae

If he were a Tasmanian, I’d be taking heat for antipodean.

I am glad that Yoichi is a member of our site.

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

To paraphrase the Simpsons: "But if I were to downvote his questions, I would be the one to go to jail. That's democracy for you".

I was also fond of his meandering trips down memory lane as vague pretense of answering a question.

Noah

12:18 PM

Hi

What to do when you fail something?

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

Can I quote the Simpsons again? “You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is: never try.”

Noah

That's funny

UMMMM

I just dont know. But it looks like that I am a total failure.

I was very close to getting something, but at the last moment it turned out that I failed.

Matt Эллен

@tchrist but the Isle of Dogs is in East London, not Norwich!

KitFox

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A: 'Insular English'

The site doesn't describe your English as insular. The user you mentioned does, and there may be others who do as well, but not everyone. The site takes no stance on how labels are applied to various subsets of language and grammar. If you find that the posts here arouse you more than you are c...

Matt Эллен

hullo!

Noah

12:25 PM

@MattЭллен What's the differrence between "in the last moment" and "at the last moment"

What's Insular English?

Matt Эллен

@Noah in means during

Noah

And at?

Matt Эллен

"at the last moment" means just before the end

Noah

Umm. great.

KitFox

@Noah Depends on who you ask.

Noah

12:27 PM

Well, you, I guess/

KitFox

> One of my interests is in the centrality of the language spoken in England to the worldwide diaspora of spoken English in its various forms.

So he at some point has acknowledged that English takes different forms.

Matt Эллен

@Noah saying "he scored a try at the last moment" implies a certain amount of drama. A sort of last ditch effort. You'll more likely hear "at the last possible moment". People say "in the moment" to describe a state of mind, more often than a point in time.

KitFox

@Noah In this context, it refers to English as it is spoken on the British Isles. Insular is a term that is often applied to describe things that have to do with islands.

Insular can also mean isolated or narrow-minded, which may be why this guy got in a huff about it.

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

@KitFox He acknowledged that English takes many forms, but has made it clear he considers English from outside of England to be bastardized spin-offs that should accept demeaning adjectives to be allowed to keep their name.

Matt Эллен

I didn't realise insular referred to island until this year. I only ever thought of it meaning narrow-minded.

Noah

12:36 PM

@KitFox Thank you. @MattЭллен Thank you, too.

Matt Эллен

no problem :)

KitFox

12:48 PM

Hi.

Lots of flags today.

Noah

What's the font iOS 7 uses?

KitFox

Comic Sans?

Helvetica Neue Ultralight

Noah

Isnt that a bit too light?

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

quora.com/iOS-7/What-font-does-iOS-7-use#

Noah

The last one?

KitFox

12:55 PM

According to what Google said when I typed "What's the font iOS 7 uses?" into the search bar and pressed Enter.

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

Likewise.

Noah

Are you an iPhone user? @KitFox

KitFox

Hells no.

I'm an adult.

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Avner Shahar-Kashtan

For years I avoided using any Apple product because of their usage of the Chicago font, which I dislike.

Noah

@KitFox Come on. I am sure you want one.

KitFox

12:57 PM

Hahaha. No.

Noah

Gotta go. Bye

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

These days I mostly avoid them because I have no need for them.

Matt Эллен

1:40 PM

Where should you live? I got France.

I'm not sure about this question:

negative questions always confuse me

tchrist

Sigh. I never get a chance to write good answers on ELU any longer.

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A: Assuming Unicode and case-insensitivity, should the pattern ".." match "FfIsS"?

On Case Folding The answer is no, dot will not match ss case insensitively, although the reasons are slightly esoteric. However, your puzzle has often been raised by some of those most in the know about such things, because they too feel it leads to contradictions. There are two forms of case ...

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен I can see how the whole point of that question was to make you bi confused.

Matt Эллен

excellent

KitFox

@MattЭллен I got Sweden. But I was confused by the whole setup.

tchrist

my $full = "Ich müß Perl studieren.";
my $sub  = "MUESS";
if (my ($pos,$len) = $Collator->index($full, $sub)) {
    my $match = substr($full, $pos, $len);
    print "Found match of literal ‹$sub› at position $pos in ‹$full› as ‹$match›\n";
}

> Found match of literal ‹MUESS› at position 4 in ‹Ich müß Perl studieren.› as ‹müß›

Which is a neat trick if I do say so myself.

You have to initialize your collator object to use the German phonebook sort order.

Matt Эллен

1:45 PM

@KitFox I hear everyone in Sweden is sexy

I've not seen it, so I can't verify

tchrist

No, you’re thinking of the Chimpanzania, where everyone is pansexual.

KitFox

@MattЭллен So...that means...you think I would fit in there?

tchrist

I want an English phonebook collator object.

The one that does Mc/Mac right.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox If you like sexy people, you'll fit in fine :D

KitFox

Hmpf.

tchrist

1:46 PM

But it’s hard. You can’t count Macey as special the way to do MacIntosh.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox hehehehe

Avner Shahar-Kashtan

@tchrist Macey vs. Mac*I*ntosh is eash. Macey vs. Mac*i*ntosh - now that's hard.

tchrist

You can’t count on caps.

But yeah.

Stack Exchange

Limerick Machine: Something to do with gills

posted on October 02, 2013 by sgdi

Two fishes were swimming along Singing a strange fishy song All of the words Were like nothing you’ve heard And all of the rhymes seemed quite wrong

MετάEd

last.fm/music/Christine+Lavin/_/Snackin';

Mistu4u

2:01 PM

@StackExchange What kind of post is this? Who is StackExchange? Why is it posting?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MattЭллен Sweden.

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 you like blonds?

Looks like @JohanLarsson has two of our finest coming his way

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MattЭллен no, but I have Boyfriend.

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 he likes blonds?

See, because Sweden has a lot of Blond people, so I assumed that's why you result was Sweden

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MattЭллен :O

He claims no hair preference.

I'm not attracted to blond men.

He seems to be attracted to dark hair.

Matt Эллен

2:11 PM

I see. I can't think why the test gave you Sweden, then ;)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Yeah, me either.

I'm playing with perler beads.

I made a minecraft diamond pickaxe, and now I'm making the stack exchange avatar.

Really? I killed the chat with that?

Matt Эллен

sorry, I was playing a game

what are perler beads?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I got a bucket of 11,000. I'm going to try to resist the temptation to sort them all by color.

Matt Эллен

:D

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

tiny plastic beads you use to make designs on a pegboard, and then iron to fuse them together

Matt Эллен

2:22 PM

what else are you meant to do with technic lego, a web cam and a raspberry pi?

If you build it, it will sort

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

O_O

I seem to have the proper colors for an orc head.

Matt Эллен

yay!

KitFox

Yay!

Sorry, I am absolutely swamped today.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I don't have my iron here.

Matt Эллен

nifty

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:25 PM

it will look better when they are fused.

Matt Эллен

SE logo and pickaxe?

OIC

sorry, I was only half paying attention earlier

Jez

2:37 PM

Heya

Anyone notice how google's logo has become unbeveled in Google Chrome? curious

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

yes

Sep 10 at 20:34, by Robusto

@JohanLarsson Beveled letters are, like, so 2003.

Jez

I have an idea for the next version of their logo

bam! bevels AND shadow

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

x_x

KitFox

It's not in Comic Sans. It should be whimsical.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole

Jez

2:48 PM

perhaps they're preparing to just render the logo in HTML

though i suspect you could just render the beveling too

Johan Larsson

> Test wasn't run

Matt Эллен

3:04 PM

> Sorry, I'll try to remember next time

Johan Larsson

fixed it by explicitly setting testproject to x86, it was AnyCpu

KitFox

I was so hungry, I ate the burrito before I made it back to my office.

Now I'm still hungry.

Jez

lol

we need more burritos here

Matt Эллен

@KitFox time for another burrito?

Jez

they can be nice

KitFox

3:18 PM

No, I am so busy. Very busy.

Jez

take some of my "bugger all to do"

it'll even out

i'm in my lame duck period of employment, had to give a month's notice but only had 2 weeks' work

KitFox

Oh that's fun.

MετάEd

@Jez You can make cool art out of paper clips.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:55 PM

Tom Clancy has died.

KitFox

So has this chat.

Johan Larsson

4:09 PM

@Robusto this is me and Cerb?

Cerberus

4:21 PM

I think so, because we failed to praise Breaking Bad.

Johan Larsson

kinda harsh

how can we prove that they were throwing pigs at us?

Cerberus

Ehhh...

Well, Robusto never signed a contract promising to be subtle.

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