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12:44 AM
*where I do
 
1:30 AM
I want to write a song about programmers called "Irreplaceable"
This song contains lyrics such as
"Irreplaceable
Determination that is not going to write any documentation"
 
2:23 AM
@Robusto I'd still like to hear something.
tchrist is risen!
How goes it?
 
Glad to be home.
Really tired.
Hate these damned 8-hour trips.
There has to be an easier way. 1:45m in the air, but 8h door to door.
 
A private plane.
 
3:03 AM
Has anyone noticed that Google does not censor their searches for adult images anymore?
 
I guess I'm not searching for adult images often enough.
 
The new generation will have a lot more freedom...
...especially with Google Images.
 
@skullpatrol There's an option for that.
@tchrist Welcome home.
 
@MετάEd It used to be automatic.
 
@skullpatrol Meaning what? It was on by default, now it's off by default?
 
3:13 AM
Yes.
Just like YouTube.
 
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Q: Is there a word for someone who really has their act together

Keith LoughnaneIs there a word for someone who really has their act together? Someone who has their time well-managed, is focused, works out, has ambitions, eats right. Not necessarily success, but there's a kind of trait that leads to it, that I can't quite put my finger on. There's strong overlap with people...

This would be a candidate for my first "protect" vote ... except that the people falling over themselves to create a long collection of answers mostly have enough rep (and should know better) so it would make no difference. (ಠ_ಠ)
 
 
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6:28 AM
I agree^
minus 3 hours later...
 
 
2 hours later…
8:01 AM
@MετάEd down with the down voter :-)
 
8:42 AM
Yes! Rep-whoring has paid off. I'm on the front page of all time reputation for EL&U
 
Jez
9:24 AM
hi all
 
morning.
 
Jez
feel like being a good Samaritan and testing out my SeaMonkey theme?
 
Does seamonkey work on windows?
 
Jez
yes
 
I'll give it a go
 
Jez
9:27 AM
www.seamonkey-project.org
to download SeaMonkey
 
OK. got it
 
Jez
then once it's installed, visit game-point.net/misc/ff3sm.xpi
in seamonkey's browser
it should prompt to install the theme
 
then restart the browser?
 
Jez
it should prompt you to
i think
 
ah, yes. I must have missed it the first time
 
Jez
9:30 AM
niice
much nicer than the default seamonkey theme
 
no problem
 
Jez
ctrl-t for new tabs
my addon is gonna give a new tab button
 
the one on the left?
 
Jez
huh?
 
the little plus mark next to the first tab
it makes new tabs
 
Jez
9:33 AM
that's the default new tab button yeah
i want a bigger one in the navigation bar
 
ah, so yours will be different
 
Jez
im used to using that in firefox
and yeah they are ruining firefox now which is why im going to seamonkey
 
yeah, I prefer that placement
 
Jez
what browser do you usually use?
 
firefox
 
Jez
9:35 AM
so im guessing you don't mind tabs on top and a minimalist UI
 
I quite like it, yeah :)
 
Jez
heh, part of the "most users" then
 
just another statistic ;)
 
9:50 AM
was "laid out for the ball" a Norton S question?
seems to have been deleted with prejudice
 
10:05 AM
And that "dummy it" question, too. Which is a shame because it was an interesting question
 
10:30 AM
@MετάEd As much as I like @MattЭллен, I have to say his answer to this question is emblematic of what is wrong with the StackExchange system.
 
Yes, his answer was rather populist, not much substance.
 
I think the question itself is emblematic.
The answers can't help but follow suit.
 
I didn't realise that my answer was already a comment. that's somewhat embarrassing.
 
Actually there's that other answer that is emblematic of what is always wrong with single-word requests.
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A: Is there a word for someone who really has their act together

NewAlexandria Mensch This is a Yiddish word, but it means exactly what you're looking for There is plenty of slang, like calling someone a boss. "Did you see how he did that? Dude is a real boss." But any such terms will not be sufficiently formal for print or other professional formats.

This type of answer is always there.
And there are always people upvoting it.
 
Jez
what type of answer?
 
10:41 AM
The type of answer where the question is asking "what is the name for the things you wear", and someone posts "bracelet", simply because a bracelet is one thing you can wear.
The type of answer that gets hypernyms and hyponyms exactly wrong.
I'm afraid you've still got it backwards. A car has four wheels, but that doesn't mean that the word for "vehicle with four wheels" is car. A thief is a criminal, but that doesn't mean that the word for "someone who has broken the law" is thief. A mensch can have their act together, but that doesn't mean that the word for someone who has their act together is mensch. Same for boss. — RegDwighт 3 mins ago
The textbook example is probably, when someone asks for a word for "dishonest person", and there'll always be someone posting the answer "politician".
I wish I had a penny for every time I had to delete such answers.
 
@RegDwighт Haha, I upvoted it.
 
@DavidWallace why would you do that to me? cries in a dark corner
 
Yeah, I was thinking of you when I did it.
 
A mensch is someone who eats right? Really? Really?
I will go ahead and post thief and politician as answers.
Also, lion.
 
And I will upvote one, but not the others.
 
10:47 AM
Clearly lions eat right.
@DavidWallace can't fool me, you already upvoted one, so you won't be upvoting mine which are in "the others" category.
 
No, I will upvote one of your three.
I have been given more than one upvote.
In fact, I have spent more than one upvote on this question.
 
Okay I'll post sixty then. So I can max out.
Seriously though. My question very much stands. A mensch is someone who eats right?
 
If you post 60 different answers, I will upvote 15 of them. Any more would be excessive.
 
A boss is someone who works out?
 
Jez
@RegDwighт lol. there was a horrible woman who was a politician over here called Louise Mensch
god im hungry
never rely on a Special K breakfast bar to start the day
a stick insect would struggle to live on them
 
10:53 AM
"eats right" wasn't a necessary part of the definition. Just part of the picture that the word should paint.
I don't understand why people get excited about Special K. It doesn't taste like anything.
 
@DavidWallace you can't cherrypick things like that. You throw out "eats right" you throw out "has their time well-managed", you throw out "works out", you throw out "is focused". At this point you've thrown out four out of five. What's left is "has ambitions", and that one's questionable as well.
Xblast time!
 
@RegDwighт Hahaha
 
@DavidWallace well, that's exactly what happened.
And again, that's something that happens all the time on questions of this kind.
 
Hey, I never said it was a good question.
 
So I'm not blaming anyone in particular. I'm blaming everyone collectively.
Xblast!
BBL
 
10:56 AM
CU
 
user87637
@MattЭллен Congrats. I am nowhere near there, lol.
 
Thanks. I've been working up to it for 2 years and seven months
 
user87637
Today Ubuntu 12.04.3 is released, just a point update to the 12.04 release.
 
user87637
I am actually thinking of switching to Ubuntu again, lol.
 
user87637
Anyway, the Ubuntu Phone project did not get enough funds to be launched, so we will all have to wait for a longer period of time before there is an Ubuntu Phone.
 
user87637
11:05 AM
They raised 12 million instead of the targeted 32 million in a month, it's still a huge sum. All money will be refunded since the phones won't be produced.
 
12 million's a lot. a pity it's not enough
 
Jez
what are Ubuntu trying to achieve? something different from the Windows 7 UI. honestly, the best thing they could do is to copy the Windows 7 UI. it's popular because it's quite functional and people are used to it
instead they increase the cost of switching by having a different UI.
 
 
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1:03 PM
didn't this exact question get deleted earlier?
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Q: Lay Out For The Ball

moscoIn sports where players use their hands to hold a ball of any kind, this phrase comes up often: link This wasn't a kick that just sailed over the crossbar; it nearly sailed out of the stadium. The goalie laid out for the ball that was roughly 40 feet above him and when he got up he didn'...

@RegDwighт ^^
 
1:16 PM
@MattЭллен It’s our spammer.
 
I guess you don’t know his tells.
I’m not going to post them here though.
 
Yeah. I don't look out for him. There seem to be enough scouts :D
 
Does it make sense to ask for the “etymology” of a phrase or idiom? That seems like it should be limited to a single word alone. I think they just want “origin” or “history”, since their phrases are not of just one etymon.
 
I am trying to say, "I've seen exactly one video of X, in which she showed quite some hatred towards Y". I struggle to find the right verb. I had "demonstrated" there, then changed it into "put on display", then simply "displayed", now "showed".
But I have that nagging feeling I am looking for something else entirely.
 
1:24 PM
Expressed?
 
Well no, less than that.
In fact it sort of slipped through inadvertently in a way.
 
I think "quite some" doesn’t collocate.
 
She sort of dropped her cover, probably without even noticing.
 
Quite a bit of hatred.
 
Suggested?
 
1:25 PM
Hinted?
 
Nonono.
Let shine through. Something like that.
 
@tchrist 15 milion google hits.
I learned all my Englishes from native English speakers.
I no invent "quite some". I use because hear.
 
quite some works for me
 
No. It orks for me.
 
1:27 PM
:D
 
Maybe in quite some time.
But quite some emotion sounds wrong.
 
So anyway, I could actually live with "demonstrated". But does that one sound okay?
 
I still don’t think I can say quite some.
Demonstrated is fine.
Revealed.
Exuded.
 
@RegDwighт yes.
 
Okay.
 
1:28 PM
oh, revealed sounds good
 
And just to please tchrist I will replace quite some with some quite.
@MattЭллен it's good but sort of too strong again.
I really don't know what I'm looking for. Otherwise I wouldn't be looking.
 
Emoted. :)
Displayed.
 
" in which quite some hatred flashed towards Y"
 
She displayed quite a bit of hatred. Hm. Manifested? I hate all of these now.
 
@MattЭллен Yeah
 
1:30 PM
I think "quite some" might be a BE collocation.
 
or " in which she flashed quite some hatred towards Y"
 
@tchrist so "quite a bit" works? That's interesting.
 
Yes.
It does.
Quite a bit of.
 
You are a strange old man, Tom.
 
Used for a mass nouns.
Aye.
 
1:31 PM
momentarily flashed, maybe
 
Yeah. For five minutes straight.
 
My original comment is here.
 
”I’ve not seen him in quite some time now” is permissible, but sounds strangely old-fashioned or formal. I would just say “I haven’t seen him for a long time.”
 
"She showed quite some thinly veiled hated towards Y"?
 
1:35 PM
I can’t say that, but perhaps you can.
 
I'm becoming semantically satiated with "quite some"
That's quite some semantic satiation
 
Oh hi thx I is dun already.
U cn stop.
 
Ah.
 
Stop, I said. Where's Caprica?
 
It need to be quite the, not quite some.
 
1:38 PM
exit stage left
 
I see the problem.
You can’t say “He’d be quite some pope”; you must say “He’d be quite the pope.”
Definite vs indefinite.
 
Ah but that is different.
 
Yeah.
 
It has a different meaning to me, too.
 
Maybe.
I’m flailing.
 
1:40 PM
But I would totally say "He has quite some dope".
 
Gosh.
 
I would also say "He has quite the dope", but that would mean something else entirely.
 
I have no idea how I would say that.
 
The former is quantity, the latter quality.
 
All the Google collocations I have for “quite some X” have X=time.
 
1:42 PM
Fair enough, then I guess what I'm saying is that it's productive for me.
And others.
 
He has quite a bit of dope = a lot of it
 
Yup.
 
He has quite the dope = it’s good shit, Maynard.
 
Yup again.
Now take into account how "a bit" is a synonym of "some".
 
> In Automath it may cause quite some work to show the equality of two expressions
 
1:42 PM
So I have to say “a bit of”, not “some”. Weird.
 
@MattЭллен that's another one. Work, effort.
 
You don’t think about things you don’t think about.
 
You really think so?
 
I have never thought of saying something I don’t say, so I have not thought of it.
 
That's quite some thought.
 
1:43 PM
the
 
NO U
 
meows
These few hits are almost all ungrammatical for me. They all would need reformulating into “quite a bit of” or “quite the”.
 
@RegDwighт You delete them? I have gotten my hand slapped lately for flagging answers like that.
Consequently, like a good boy I now pat the poster on the head for trying.
 
Iron logic.
 
I envy your arbitrary abuse of power.
 
1:49 PM
See, but it's not abuse, it's use.
 
Sometimes “quite some” should be “some quite”.
 
It's supposed to work that way. Shoot first, listen to complaints later.
The other way round, I'd never have anything done.
There's a MSO thread.
Now I can't remember a stupid adjective.
What we call these questions that are authoritative versions we close dupes as dupes of?
We use it twenty times a day, now I can't remember it.
 
canonical?
 
YES THANK YOU
 
no probs :)
 
1:55 PM
My head's on fire.
 
put it under some water!
 
So anyhoo. There's a canonical MSO thread.
@MattЭллен I put it under quite some water instead.
 
WTF Bradley Manning wants to be a woman now?
 
No but really, what is the logic in moderator disputes of flags on altogether wrong answers?
 
1:58 PM
@MετάEd I have no one-size-fits-all answer for you.
I could offer you quite some weasel wording, though.
 
@RegDwighт Sure you do. You can just acknowledge that all my flags are worthy ones.
 
So anyway back on topic: they made the NSA whistleblowers gay, and now they make Bradley Manning a woman?
 
Who's Bradley Manning?
 
@MετάEd all your flags are worthy ones. Worthy of being accepted or rejected.
 
@RegDwighт Pooh.
 
1:59 PM
@MετάEd the Wikilieaks informant?
Who leaked, among a trillion other things, that video of GIs shooting journalists from a chopper?
 
@RegDwighт Really? I just trolled you?
 
@MετάEd no. I just trolled you.
Checkmate.
 
lmao
 
So anyway. I guess he's Bradley Starship now.
Sorry, The Bradley Starship.
Articles is difficult in language English.
 
2:03 PM
They turned Assange into an embassy and Manning into a starship! It's amazing what modern medicine can do
 
Yeah not to mention what they did to your mama.
Oh come on that was funny.
 
Maybe @Kit will laugh?
 
She will choose to drool over Simon Pegg again.
 
hahahaha. What?
 
That is Simon Pegg. That's what.
 
2:12 PM
I do like Simon Pegg. Forgot to mention him yesterday.
 
That is a frigging shoot-em-all with Simon Pegg.
It doesn't get better than that.
Until you get your hands on the frigging wank-it-at-the-office with Simon Pegg, of course.
 
I think having sexual relations with Simon Pegg would be better than that.
 
You always think that of people.
 
True.
46 million sales lines to update.
That's a lot of data.
 
Oh I thought that was the people lined up to be loved.
 
2:13 PM
I've never run an update that took 5+ minutes before.
 
That's what she said.
 
There's nothing wrong with loving people.
 
That's what Dubya didn't say.
 
It's what the world needs now.
 
I think the world needs to do the safety dance first.
 
2:15 PM
looks at hands
Anyway, I'm not here.
poof
(except when my liaison is not looking)
 
I'm beginning to think I did this update incorrectly.
It's supposed to update 29134619 rows, and it's been almost ten minutes now.
I get extremely nervous when handling things that are this huge.
And yes, that's star bait.
 
I will star it when you're not looking.
Then I'll quickly unstar it while you're still not looking.
This will go on for quite some time.
 
Son of a—
 
I am no son of Dash.
 
2:22 PM
Mrs. Dash is not your mom?
 
Well I'm not her spitting image, for starters.
 
Barbara Womanning.
Well, or Chelsea in honor of the future Presidentess.
 
Jez
@RegDwighт Manning had a gender issue since ages ago.
he's obviously just taken this moment to announce it loudly
 
Please stop using the male name: he isn’t manning anybody. She is womanning them.
Thesis: Manning is a nutjob. Discuss.
 
Jez
2:33 PM
lol
 
Manning is an American. So of course he is. /thread
 
Is that Unmanning?
 
could be
 
3:01 PM
Should have gone for Girling.
 
@RegDwighт Ah. "No, No, Not -- Images Edition".
 
@MετάEd WTF is the person doing in that image. That is all wrong.
 
3:57 PM
hey guys
anyone home?
 
4:33 PM
 
user87637
@Saladin Yes, I am at home now.
 
`Anatomy of attack
Losing sight of a Bell-Cat (A brief pause in Defense)
revise the heading for me? please
 
user87637
Nobody would know what you are trying to write from the title alone. More info is needed to help you.
 
well its an article on cyber attack
its a heading
it happened because there was an inactive control..(e.g defense)
 
 
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5:50 PM
@RegDwighт On the theory that only you know whether or not to delete an answer: english.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/34096
 
Jez
6:10 PM
Hey guys I need your input
which of these two menu styles do you prefer:
it's just the menu along the top - hover bar on top or bottom?
 
bottom is great
because it re-enforces the title
 
Jez
yeah i lean towards that a bit but some people say the other one is better
 
6:26 PM
go with me
i know design stuff
 
Jez
and what about the currently selected section?
 
6:53 PM
More importantly, what about Naomi?
 
7:38 PM
posted on August 22, 2013 by sgdi

I felt I was losing my I couldn’t think quite what to say I felt in a rush To ask out my crush But my courage was seeping away

 
8:12 PM
 
9:03 PM
@RegDwighт That kitty is very happy. Look at the eyes and ears and whiskers. He or she is enjoying the scritchies.
 
9:21 PM
user image
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Propsto @derobert for the lost dog poster
 
9:36 PM
Where is the dog?
 
Is there more substantive answer to this question? Some English person charged that in British English it should be capitalized, as opposed to American:
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Q: Should the names of seasons be capitalized?

JohnWhen you are writing about the seasons, should you capitalize their names? For example, would you say: I love the colors of the leaves in Autumn. Or should you say: I love the colors of the leaves in autumn.

 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 If we knew, he wouldn't be lost :-(
 
I thought he was on vacation or something.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I don't recall him mentioning that.
 
9:38 PM
@SAJ14SAJ s/middle/liddle/
 
@MετάEd ?
 
@MετάEd What are the British equivalent of Chicago Manual of Style and the like? Is Guardian style guide worth any salt?
 
9:58 PM
@SAJ14SAJ Avoid feeding liddle head.
@theUg I guess I don't know.
 
@MετάEd I are a native speaker of English, and yet I feel so lost and adrift in this chatroom.
 
@SAJ14SAJ My two.
 
10:32 PM
Hi
Every one. Communists, liberals, leftists, tea-est, Commutist and Linguists.
@theUg Brits don't have a style.
 
@Noah That I could believe. Americans have even less, that’s why they have to have a plethora of manuals.
 
@theUg Because we come up with new things every now and then :)
 
New for the sake of new, is not necessarily good. ;)
 
@theUg The Chicago Manual is pretty old.
but jokes aside, you would be good with the Gaurdian.
 
“You say ‘’erbs’, we say ‘herbs’. Because there’s fucking ‘h’ in there.” — Eddie Izzard.
@Noah It was new, once. :)
 
10:39 PM
@theUg I say Herbs.
 
@Noah It looks like amateurish FAQ online, though: theguardian.com/styleguide
they do have 1928 stylebook for Manchester guardian available as PDF
 
That sounds interesting. You might also look up Tony Blairs Manual of Style ;)
@theUg Why not start with Eddie Izzard's one.
@RegDwighт What's a nose condom?
 
@Noah I don’t agree with Eddie Izzard’s approval of thru, nite, and the rest. Those look hideous to me. And I am a foreigner.
 
@mr.shinyandnew安宇 10 Worst projects on CUUSOO. This stuff is hilarious. And with one or two exceptions I actually haven't seen these before despite hanging out on the site all the time.
@Noah I dunno, you tell me.
Except I am off again. Au revoir !
 
LOL Bye
 
10:45 PM
Why you be using freedom language?
 
@theUg Then you need a nose condom.
@theUg ?
 
I have a big nose. Give me a magnum.
@Noah freedom fries, you know, all that jazz
 
@theUg Me or Americans?
 
@Noah RedDwight. I just poked fun at his use of Francais
 
going off.
C U, gotta commute
 
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