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1:00 PM
Been so long since I used VB I don't really remember.
@RegDwight — So your commitments can be bought. I see what you did there.
 
Oh, BTW, @Kosmonaut, @kiamlaluno, and everyone else: Shinto's account has been nuked.
 
Who dat?
 
And we can all finally move on.
 
Kit
Bet it's the naughty German user.
 
Mar 4 at 13:29, by RegDwight
Kinopiko -> Shinto Sherlock -> Ex-User -> Kinopiko -> Master Of Disaster.
 
1:02 PM
Oh, them.
 
And then, for the last three months or so, he went by the name "delete".
 
He was a guy who participated heavily in the early days, with a mix of helpful answers and totally rude and nasty answers/comments
 
So he finally took his yarbles and went home?
 
It would appear so. He wasn't participating in any site lately.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Oh, I saw that guy. I thought "delete" meant he had been deleted.
He had that run-in with kiamlaluno or something, right?
 
1:07 PM
Yeah.
Kiamlaluno even chickened out and left until Shinto, in turn, left over a disagreement with Kosmonaut.
Geez, this site's already nine months old. How much is that in human years?
 
Kit
Well, if I'm ever naughty like that, you call me on that sh*t, ok?
(I know you will)
 
I will just associate your account with Knight Industries.
That'll teach you.
 
@RegDwight — 0 years. 9 months is the human gestation period, so technically we just emerged from the womb.
 
The more you learn!
 
The more important question is, what is the metric equivalent of nine months?
 
1:11 PM
Certainly nothing with Fahrenheits.
That's so for sure, you have no idea.
I suppose we must ask ze Fräntsch.
Them's invented calendar with ten months.
 
Kit
@RegDwight I'm not affiliated with Knight Industries.
 
@RegDwight — Which reminds me: I've been meaning to ask about the usage of "for sure" vs. "sure" as a regional or other variation in a construction like "I'm sure" vs. "I'm for sure" etc. I can't find anything in a search, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been asked.
 
Kit
@Robusto 40 weeks +/- 2 weeks.
 
@Kit — A week is not a metric measure. It's so, like, base-7.
 
@Robusto Never seen anything remotely similar to that on this site. Go ahead and ask.
 
Kit
1:15 PM
@Robusto Maybe your weeks are base-7. Some of us have moved into the 21st century though, caveman.
 
@Kit OMG. 21 = 7 * 3.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Holy trinity! It's the end of days!
 
@Kit For sure it is. It has to be. Especially since the last end of days didn't quite work out as expected.
 
Kit
Except for the superfluous association of weeks and centuries.
@RegDwight Rain delay. Still going to happen in October, when the weather's nicer.
 
My money is on the Maya.
 
Kit
1:17 PM
One more year, then?
 
October doesn't make sense anyway, octo is not related to 7.
yesterday, by RegDwight
He's polluting the transcript. So that the next time I need that gay British knight quote, I can't find it underneath that huge pile of Industries.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Unless you're using metric months.
 
Did you know that four is the only number that tells you how many letters it has?
 
@RegDwight — Asked. Wasn't sure quite how to tag it, though.
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Q: "I'm sure" vs. "I'm for sure": Who uses which, and when?

RobustoI hear both (and their negatives: "I'm not sure" and "I'm not for sure"). I want to classify the "for sure" variety as regional Southern, since that's the context I most often hear it. For example, take the "gimp" scene from Pulp Fiction. (Not that usages in the movies prove anything, mind you,...

 
1:25 PM
Well, how about and ?
(In addition to the ones already there.)
 
I could've used
 
I think that one has been marked as synonym of already.
 
I think we need an too, btw.
 
Sounds too Arabic for my tastes. This site is about English.
 
Kit
@Robusto FWIW, in Maine we use "I'm sure." The only "for sure" construction I can think of is "Do you know for sure?"
But then we also say "he stove up his wrist while he was upta camp; that boy's number'n'a hake." So, who knows for sure?
 
1:30 PM
Hello! This site is about English!
 
Jez
how different would our society be if we'd happened to invent a system whereby a week was 8 days? 9 days? and still 2 days for the weekend
allllll those extra man-hours of work
 
@RegDwight Yippie!!
 
@Jez Ask the Japanese. They have invented just that.
A 365-day week, as a matter of fact. Still two days for the weekend!
 
I think somebody in the history already made the weeks longer: French during the revolution.
 
@kiamlaluno Yeah, that's the gist of what we're discussing right now.
 
Kit
1:34 PM
Unions would fight for a longer weekend.
 
Haha, the gender question got multicollidered.
 
Kit
And we'd probably win it too.
 
@RegDwight Good. It's an interesting one.
 
By the way, I am like Saint Thomas: I don't believe it if I don't see it with my eyes. Let's check about Shinto's account.
 
1:38 PM
@z7sg Yes, but it raises the question: can you imagine what the MultiCollider will look like once J'Lo goes public?
 
@RegDwight — Except in chat.
 
@RegDwight I only hope it will make toasts too; if it makes also pancakes, then I will be happier.
 
Peace out, playahz. Gotta go to a company picnic. TTYL.
 
Mahlzeit!
 
Mahlzeit!
 
1:45 PM
How can I know which one was his account?
 
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A: Is "might could" a correct construction?

I wasn't sure, though, if its incorrect or correct but just not idiomatic outside the southern US. This construction would be considered incorrect (a grammatical mistake) in most varieties of English.

 
Haha! He pretended to know most of the English varieties. How did I miss that?
 
Kit
Oops. I think I called you sweetie once.
I retract it.
 
@kiamlaluno No prob, I will refer to you as "sourie" henceforth.
 
Kit
@RegDwight What about "savory?"
 
1:54 PM
You mistyped "savoy".
 
Kit
Ha ha ha.
I mean, LOL.
 
Thanks for the clarification. Now I understand.
 
It should be "I am scratching my armpit."
 
Haven't heard that one in a while.
You are busy with your droplet stuff, arencha?
 
Which one?
 
1:56 PM
The armpit.
Nobody scratches armpits round here except for you.
 
@RegDwight It must be Italian humor.
 
A typically Italian self-overestimation. :P:P:P
Lemme check how much reps your has...
Oh, 5k. Nice.
 
@RegDwight Do you mean passive reputation? :-)
 
Well, it won't take long and you will be getting that much passive rep on DA.
 
@RegDwight Yep. I don't think that is worth anything: we are now in permanent beta phase (or something like that).
 
2:00 PM
Huh wha? What does that mean?
 
@RegDwight Ha ha! I didn't get 120 votes just for saying "No, that is not what happens in Drupal."
 
Holy Moly, you have twenty questions per day???
 
@RegDwight Yep.
"This site will remain in beta indefinitely so it can grow; we will continue to evaluate its site statistics and overall health."
We are over the 90 days, now.
 
Yeah, looks like you only have a dozen avid users.
But tons of visits and questions.
Interesting.
So basically, you just answer all questions yourself?)))
 
Area 51 reports 12.6 questions for EL&U, if Area 51 is still updated for EL&U.
 
2:04 PM
@kiamlaluno I don't think so. Doesn't it say something like "at the end of beta, this site had:"?
We're way over 12 questions per day now.
 
@RegDwight I wish! Actually, I don't reply to questions about Panels, Views, and other modules.
@RegDwight It says "this Stack Exchange site's beta was successful, so it launched 6 months ago."
 
Kit
@Martha szia!
 
@kiam.
 
Kit
I'm looking at pie and doughnut charts and it's making me hungry.
Is that wrong?
 
@kiamlaluno Okay. It's just that I'm trying to think of another site with lots of traffic but less than 100 users with 200+ reps...
 
2:08 PM
@RegDwight Right; I was looking at the wrong place (as my usual).
Most of the traffic comes from search engines. I think that is good.
 
Wow! I was the third most active user, when EL&U was in beta. I have never known it.
 
@Kit Doughnut charts were cynically created with that intention.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Big smiley.
 
This is a torture: cheese cake.
 
Kit
2:10 PM
@z7sg Keeps meetings short, I'd bet.
 
@Kit Yeah, sure whatever, I approve your project, now where's my lunch?
 
Anyhows, people, lemme commit to Linguistics or something...
 
If you want to commit to a proposal, I can think of one.
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Food and Cooking in Italian

Proposed Q&A site for cooks, chefs, and anyone who can cook lunch or dinner. The questions must be in italian.

Currently in definition.

 
Kit
@z7sg For you.
 
@Kit Sorry, I was catching up. Szia!
 
Kit
2:18 PM
@Martha Thanks for the Victor Borge turn on last night. I always forget how much fun he is.
 
150
Database Administratorsdba.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for database professionals who wish to improve their database skills and learn from others in the community.

Currently in public beta.

This is the closer I get.
Is it normal that a site proposer is then not in the top-users list?
 
@Kit You're most welcome.
 
Apr 6 at 16:02, by RegDwight
I find it hilarious that our site was proposed by this user:
Apr 6 at 16:02, by RegDwight
Good Person, /dev/null
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Apr 6 at 16:03, by RegDwight
Then again, looking at his accounts, it appears that he specializes in proposing and defining sites, not in actually visiting them.
 
@RegDwight He didn't even write example questions for the EL&U proposal.
 
Jez
curious; the word 'bully' comes from Middle Dutch boele: lover.
predicting domestic violence?
 
2:32 PM
Ask @Cerberus.
 
Kit
@Jez Bestiality.
 
Hi All
Is this a future tense : "I am not going to eat this thing" ?
 
No it is present tense.
But it is a specific form we use to talk about the future.
 
2:47 PM
To notice that "I am not going to eat this thing" is different from "I will not eat this thing" and "I am not eating this thing."
> (be going to be/do something) intend or be likely or intended to be or do something; be about to (used to express a future tense): I'm going to be late for work | she's going to have a baby.
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Q: Capitalising a sentence whose first word is explicitly lowercase

HuiHi. Let's say that you have a word that should be typed with leading lowercase letter. Perhaps it's a computer command. Perhaps it's an Internet nickname. I can't find any more serious examples. When you put that word at the beginning of a sentence, should you capitalise it? cat allows you...

 
If you remove the person (will, intention, etc), the meaning is identical. The asteroid is going to collide with the moon. is equivalent to The asteroid will collide with the moon.
 
but @z7sg: i listent a video there its mentioend as future tense
 
@z7sg The difference could be the immediateness of the action; if I say "I will go to Paris," I can mean I will go to Paris between 2 years, between 10 years, or between an undefined number of years.
 
my slippers are damaged, i need to repair it , Is that a right sentence ?
what should i use instead of damaged for slippers.
 
If I say "I am going to eat something," I don't mean that I will go to eat something between a month.
Ruined?
 
Kit
2:59 PM
Ripped? Worn or worn out?
Have holes in them?
 
hmm right @kiamlaluno: right
so actually its present that mean i am going to do this right noe
is it/?
Should i post question for it?
 
It could also mean you intend to do it.
 
intend mean ?
 
@kiamlaluno Well, that isn't a great example tbh as you never talk about what you're going to eat in a month
 
ahh force
i see
 
3:01 PM
Do post a question if it hasn't been asked already.
Something like "What is the difference between 'I am going to' and 'I will'?"
 
hmm ...
right
 
@z7sg "I will eat gnocchi alla fiorentina when I am in Italy."
 
well in my point of view, i am going to mean .. something is forcing to me to do this work
so its a half present and half future..heheh
 
@kiamlaluno "I'm going to eat..." equally good
 
hyy talk with me also ..:(
anyways thats ok.. i guess should post a question......
but see according to the above video link...
 
3:05 PM
@z7sg If you are expressing your intention, then it's equally good. If I know I will surely eat gnocchi all a fiorentina (e.g. that is the only dish on the menu), then I would use the future tense (will).
 
that shows , its a future sentence
hmmm
 
Can't watch video right now, sorry!
 
Kit
@Miss That sounds more like "I must" to me.
 
13
Q: Why "meth-", "eth-", "prop-", when there is "uni-","di-","tri-"?

Third IdiotIn chemistry, the homologous series for hydrocarbons uses the prefixes: Meth- Eth- Prop- But- Pent- Hex- Hep- Oct- Why is this so, instead of just using "uni-", "di-", "tri-"? I looked up the prefixes, but there is no dictionary record of them. But I think "uni-", "di-", "tri-", were invente...

This is not a question specific for English, IMO.
 
Jez
heh, there's an English commentator pronouncing Gail Monfils in these highlights as mɒn'fi :-)
dont blame him as the french drop the 's' on VIRTUALLY every word
 
3:11 PM
Woof.
 
@Jez They do remove it at the end of a word.
 
@kiamlaluno I don't know the rules, if there are any but I feel like I use "I am going to" most frequently. Hell I don't need to worry about rules as it's my own language!
 
Now, who feeds the dogs?
 
well my question still not cleared ,...
 
@kiamlaluno Agree, I downvoted that.
 
3:12 PM
(I don't know any more about the etymology of bully than the OED, which says it might be related to Middle Dutch boel... I dn't know; I hadn't even heard of the word.)
 
3
Q: What are the guidelines for usage of "will" and "is/are going to"?

Anderson SilvaI use them interchangeably, however I'd like to know when one is better or more appropriate than the other.

@Miss
I don't vouch for what's written there though.
 
Give it up for Kosmo over at GLU.
2
A: When is the last sound of a syllable unvoiced?

KosmonautThe OP seems to have a good background in syllable structure, but I'll give some background in that for those who might not. This phenomenon is known as final obstruent devoicing. An obstruent is a consonant made by constricting airflow. In German, the relevant ones are (in IPA): stops (a.k....

 
Kit
@Cerberus Here's a cookie, poochy.
 
ahh now i have del my question..
 
A cookie is not enough, if it's not a cookie for each head.
 
Kit
3:15 PM
@kiamlaluno Except "fils," which drops the l and retains the s.
@Cerberus Two more then. There's a good boy.
 
@z7sg: Yes, those tenses are more complicated than they seem, I think. I have tried teaching them to kids, based on grammar books and excercises, and I found "the rules" only worked reliably in simple, standard sentences. The same applies to present perfect v. past simple, though I have some clue of what's behind those.
@Kit: Yum!
 
@z7sg.. thanks
my slippers are damaged, i need to repair it , Is that a right sentence ?

what should i use instead of damaged for slippers.
 
Jez
slippers > plural > 'them'
 
no i meant for damaged..
 
That is why I have never learned French.
 
3:18 PM
@Miss that's fine
 
Is damaged right word for them/
@z7sg: you meant damaged verb is ok with slippers.. is it?
 
@Miss Sure, slippers can be damaged.
 
My slippers are annihilated. I need to deannihilate them.
 
hhmm ok @regdwight: its looks me pretty sentense.. but difficult wording.
 
Kit
@RegDwight My slippers have been decimated. I need to osculate them.
@Miss He's joking.
 
3:20 PM
@Miss I'm joking. Don't re-use my jokes. It won't help you, like, at all.
 
hheeh ok ,,,
 
@Kit But have they been literally decimated?
 
Kit
@Kit I was joking too.
 
7
Q: "Literally" and "Decimate" misuse

TaldaugionRecently I've heard American TV commentators say "[a person] was literally decimated" and "[a Senator] was literally thrown under the bus". In the first case I think the person was not actually 10% killed, but in the second, I believe they meant that 57 members of the US Senate carried #58 onto C...

 
Kit
@RegDwight I had a huge argument with my advisor over the proper meaning of "decimate."
 
3:23 PM
@Kit osculate?! :D
 
Kit
@z7sg Took you long enough to look it up. ;)
For the love of Frigg, why is my chart not rendering? I hate you ASP.Net! A thousand curses on your binaries!
 
0
Q: Is Metathesis correct?

AnkitPronouncing asterisk → asterix /ˈæstərɪks/ is called Metathesis. Some common examples of this phenomenon, that i have heard are ask -> aks, introduce → interduce /ɪntərˈdjuːs/ So this phenomenon has a fancy name. But is it correct to say asterisk as asterix or not? How do one decide that wh...

@Kosmonaut @JSBangs.
I gotta go.
CU!
 
Jez
'happy birthday'. there's a song that's totally inappropriate for singing by people who can't stay in key. which seems to be about 100% of people.
painful to listen to, every time they hit the second 'birthday', the key is lost
without fail
 
3:38 PM
They fail without fail?
 
I need a birthday song that show biirthday for a loving friend.
 
Kit
 
any other song'
 
Jez
actually, above, i meant third 'birthday'
it's got to be the most commonly sung out-of-tune piece
 
hmm
its looks old fashion
 
Kit
3:45 PM
@Miss Pretty standard in the US.
 
how is that
the above 1 is my faV
 
Kit
I didn't know there were more words.
@Miss Oh, you meant Marilyn Monroe was old fashioned. That's true.
 
WHAT DO U MEAN?
YUPPI
what about the above
 
Kit
My brain is melting and I must go to lunch.
 
i want a song that have full of love emotions but do't show in video
or some close and deep feeling in his or her friend
 
Kit
3:51 PM
I don't see how you could go wrong with Yanni, but that video is dedicated to someone else.
 
okz
hehe ok
 
4:04 PM
I really like who ends a question with "do you have any idea?"
I have many ideas; does that matter?
 
 
1 hour later…
5:07 PM
@kiamlaluno "Do you have any idea?" is different from "Do you have any ideas?" :-)
 
how many/much idea do you have?
too little or too few?
 
how many ideas is correct sentence
well how many idea is right or how much idea
 
how much idea are a correct sentences
 
how much but its used for quanty
 
much is used with mass nouns (also called uncountable or non-count), many is used for count nouns (also called countable)
idea is mostly a count noun but seems to work as a mass noun too in lots of idiomatic phrases - which is not uncommon in english actually
 
5:18 PM
hm i see
 
Jez
examples, @hippietrail?
 
i have some idea
i don't have any idea
maybe "lots" was overstating
 
5:44 PM
@psmears In both the cases, the answer could be "yes," or "no."
Would I get votes to answer in that way? :-)
 
@kiamlaluno True. But I'd only upvote you if you gave the correct "yes" or "no" :-)
 
i feel "no" or "yes" is more correct
 
@psmears Yes yes; no no.
I guess that "do you have any idea?" makes me crazy. :-)
 
i definitely don't not disagree
 
The second "yes" was much better than the first
 
5:58 PM
I doughnut agree.
@psmears It's like a cake: the second you cook comes out better.
 
Jez
wow, Federer 2-0 up
he could get into the final without losing a set. at which point, he'll lose 3 in a row.
 
Kit
6:57 PM
Is that you, Invisible Pink Unicorn?
 
Hi Kit!
I haven't had much of a chance to try this chat before :)
 

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