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user55340
12:55 AM
Sometimes, it is just fun to confuse people with a terse language.
 
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Solving Project Euer #15 for a 4x4 grid (rather than 20x20 grid) with dc: [d1-d1<F*]dsF8lFx4lFxd*/p
 
3:33 AM
@MichaelT: That's how several of my college math professors taught. :/
Anyone else in here?
 
user20683
@JimG. kinda
 
6:08 PM
funny to see "downvote gang" squirm at this straight support question. Guys, what are you going to achieve with downvotes? If this is supposed to somehow "harm", note I just spent 200 on a bounty, so these funny -2s make me rather smile — gnat 1 min ago
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Shog9I've long held that voting on meta isn't all that different; while I don't expect changing the guidance to affect voting behavior very much, it would be nice to see fewer "don't worry, voting is different here" comments on poorly-written posts: Telling someone who has just asked the 1011th q...

 
 
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user55340
9:56 PM
@JimG. It isn't that bad. The [] establish a string (to be used as a macro). [d1-d1<F*] Dups the top element on the stack (d) and subtracts one from it (thats the d1-. It then dups that value, and compares it to 1. If it is greater than 1, it invokes the macro F on it, and multiplies it. A factorial. That string is then stored as 'F' (dsf). Then push onto the stack 8, lFx loads F and executes it.
 
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Then 4lFx does the same for 4. d again is the dup for the top value on the stack, and * multiplies (d* is squaring the top value on the stack). / is divide, takes the top two values and divides one by the other. and p is print.
 
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Its all about writing writing (8!)/((4!)*(4!)) Now, this isn't that necessary because 8! is only 40320. However, the problem requires that one be able to handle larger numbers. To solve the problem, you need to work with a number that has about 50 digits in it, which is beyond the integer of most languages.
 
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dc is quite nice in this respect... I've done calculations with dc that have 500 digits in them without any noticeable issues. (just having fun, spitting out big numbers, the last four digits of 2^1,000,000 are '9376' - though it printed it all out, its too big to paste into chat it has a bit over 300,000 digits)
 
user55340
10:12 PM
It takes a bit to crunching things... but it was able to do 2 10 7 ^ ^ p. Tossing that through wc has 3,097,555 characters (though 43627 of them are the backslash to show continuation of the previous line).
 
user20683
10:22 PM
@MichaelT
 
user20683
This is distressing
 
user55340
It looks like the site is getting hit rather hard at the moment... trouble loading images. And yes, it is quite distressing when one considers the implications.
 
user55340
Back to OCR fonts!
 
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user55340
10:26 PM
The classic MICR font for the US.
 
user20683
@MichaelT oddly enough there is a very similar font for Dyslexics
 
user20683
I used to write lab reports for my dyslexic instructor
 
user55340
(I prefer the US one over the european one)
 
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user20683
@MichaelT I've spent the weekend ramming C# into my skull
 
user55340
10:28 PM
The one we use is used by AU, CA, UK, and US.
 
user20683
given that it's basically a clone of Java, it's stupidly easy to learn
 
user20683
PascalCase though
 
user55340
What do you think of that beautiful terse dc macro and execution?
 
user20683
@MichaelT reminds me of why I want to learn an APL so much
 
user55340
The fun part was seeing how big it could go. I did 2^10,000,000 though that took awhile.
 
user55340
10:30 PM
I know it chokes at 2^10^10
 
user20683
@MichaelT I looked at doing fast multiplication as a project for my Algorithms class
 
user20683
I assume you've heard who the new Doctor is?
 
user55340
Yep.
 
user20683
We're boned
 
user20683
given what his previous role was...
 
user55340
10:32 PM
It was on NPR as I was driving back from Minnesota (lens crafters... had my pupils dialated this time (earlier in the day) and getting a 3rd pair of glasses (for computer work))
 
user55340
General purpose: progressive bifocals. Driving: single focal (distance). Computer: single focal (intermediate)
 
user20683
@MichaelT Pity they don't have proper cybereyes yet
 
user55340
Progressives don't work well for people with big or several monitors. Though, they do make a specialized progressive for office work.
 
user55340
Its banded - so distance is a thin layer at the top, intermediate is a thick layer in the middle, and then reading is a thin layer at the bottom.
 
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user55340
10:35 PM
 
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Though not quite that design.
 
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Had an interesting conversation on different types of specialized lenses. The executive bifocal which does a thick bottom reading for podiums.
 
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user20683
@HodofHod Shalom
 
@WorldEngineer Hi!
 
user20683
10:39 PM
@HodofHod Welcome to our humble abode.
 
Thank you! :)
I'm just popping in to make sure my userscript is working properly (in this case, by _not_ working in this room).
 
user20683
@HodofHod what does it do?
 
@WorldEngineer It adds in a little on-screen hebrew keyboard. Only really useful for the Judaism chat rooms (and the Hebrew ones, if that site ever gets out of A51).
 
user20683
@HodofHod ah, well the closest we get to Hebrew here is Haskell.
 
user20683
and PHP
 
user55340
10:44 PM
@JimmyHoffa I did post that MSO feature request. Got some response back on it. Not too much though.
 
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MichaelTI am under the impression that increased participation in the review queue is, on the whole a good thing. It encourages people to feel an ownership in the community and partially responsible for the site as a whole. On Programmers.SE, I've seen what I believe to be an uptick in flagging to clos...

 
@WorldEngineer PHP I get, (I think), but Haskell?
It sounds like an Anglicized pronunciation of a Jewish name, but that's all I can think of.
 
user20683
@HodofHod one of the main web frameworks is called "Yesod".
 
@WorldEngineer Cool! That's right after Hod in the Sephirot, too!
 
user20683
@HodofHod I suppose it's a good name for a language that primarily sells itself as purely functional
 
10:50 PM
That's actually a great name for a framework, now that I think about it more.
@WorldEngineer Yep.
 

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