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12:02 AM
What bothers me the most is that it took you less than four minutes to read through and understand all the top rated answers to the question @Adnan posted as a duplicate, and still commented on which parts of your question it answers and which it doesn't. That sudden flash of genius doesn't quite follow the level of understanding of the topic discussed here as is clearly shown in your question. I'm not saying any of the two are a problem, not at all, I'm just saying I find it extremely odd. And that I'm slightly bothered by taking a whole lot longer to make that mental leap myself. :? — TildalWave 3 mins ago
That's it I'm a retard, newbs here read, process and learn at least 10.000 times faster than I do
@Simon God no, Python has some awful frameworks! Didn't you get the memo? :))
 
@Simon I recommend PHP
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@TildalWave Nope :(
@ScottPack Already know PHP.
 
Perfect! Then you don't need to know anything else.
PHP also makes a fantastic language for writing system scripts.
 
@ScottPack Haha. I used to think that but people keep hating on it.
 
@ScottPack had to star that, others need to see that :P
 
12:09 AM
@Simon Oh, that's because PHP is terrible.
 
Alright, I get it. I'm gonna go start looking into Rails.
 
12:27 AM
@TildalWave Please tell me that I can install Ruby on my server and work through FTP?
 
Phew! I'm installing the environment on my server atm.
Thanks.
 
1:10 AM
Oh, God. I think I can see where this is going, and even thinking about it just hurts my head.
 
 
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3:15 AM
 
3:32 AM
We need a VTC reason: "You asked more than one question. Please rephrase your question in the form of a single question."
 
@tylerl The best we have is the fill in the blank off-topic.
 
 
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4:42 AM
@tylerl That's "too broad"
Used to be NARQ
 
@ManishEarth So's your butt.
 
 
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10:37 AM
@DBZNappa
It's OVER NINE THOUSAND!!
560k tweets, 19.4k followers, following 20 users
this has got to be my favourite twitter novelty account
 
 
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11:41 AM
@Simon I just got started on Rails. I can't believe how convenient it is actually.
A couple of CLI commands, a few lines of modifications and an entire CRUD process is done.
 
 
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12:55 PM
yellow
 
@HamZa Blue
 
@Adnan congratz for the 10K
 
So I was writing a long answer, complicating as usual in a bid to include as much of relevant information as possible, and then The Bear comes and basically answers it all that I was trying to in only two paragraphs. I really wish there was some way for The Bear to "mark his territory" so I know I needn't bother :))
 
@HamZa Thanks. Unfortunately, now I have to deal with my 10KS (10K Syndrome)
 
1:05 PM
"One of those bears are correctly typing an answer to this question, would you like to proceed anyway?"
@TerryChia Yeah, it really looks like it. I've configured my environment yesterday and then decided it's not the right time to learn another language.
 
@TildalWave make a meta post of it :p
 
@HamZa I did on mSO long time ago (not about The Bear tho, just in general sense). It didn't go down that well :)
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Q: Ability to see active participants currently adding new answer to a question by inspecting saved drafts

TildalWaveAs no doubt most of us have experienced, we sometimes start answering a question that receives a lot of attention, and many of us start preparing their answers simultaneously, at almost exactly the same time. Some questions might thus receive nearly identical answers from different members, poste...

 
Damn, you were denied.
 
@TildalWave I see ...
 
@Simon that's "a standard practice" on mSO really... I didn't realize it back then tho, so I learned "hands-on" :))
 
1:12 PM
Who has noticed that we are getting a wave of crappy questions on both Security SE and SO ?
 
I still think it would be a useful feature. They could limit it to members with certain reputation, if it'd present a problem for low rep users. It would be easily achievable, so I don't really understand (still) the disapproval it received. I dig there's better and more pressing proposals there, but fail to see how mine was so bad to attract so many downvotes. :?
 
@TildalWave It's MSO..... what did you expect? Roses?
 
@HamZa I think we all did, but @LucasKauffman was the most vocal one this last week
 
@TildalWave 3 downvotes ? That's very few for MSO lol
 
There are some real dickheads on SO
 
1:17 PM
@Simon lol why ?
 
@HamZa well OK, but it honestly didn't feel as such when I posted it... and no excuse for any of them, just that "there's no need" or "it wouldn't stop FGITW answers" opinions which hardly render it useless and warrant downvotes.
 
He's a downvoting prick. Just take a look at his questions, he's getting downvote revenge quite often.
 
@TildalWave Well, downvotes on meta works differently...
 
Just take a look at his upvote/downvote ratio.
 
@TerryChia :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
 
1:19 PM
@TildalWave I think you forgot ":P".
 
@Simon lol that's nothing compared to others ...
 
@HamZa I still hate him anyway.
 
@TerryChia what's wrong with not voting when you neither agree nor disagree?
oh wait... don't answer that
 
@TildalWave lol sometimes I think they don't have feelings... I mean sometimes I see a post with 10 downvotes, question closed, bunch of comments and people keep on downvoting: it's a massacre ...
 
LOL, he strikes again
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Q: Protection of online image file (ancient manuscript)

user27889I am going to protect an image file (ancient manuscript) which will be available online for everyone to download. I want to protect the file in these situations: 1- When its on the server, I need to protect the file from any alteration (I mean should previously apply digital watermarking to the ...

 
1:21 PM
@HamZa well to some voting is an extension... I'll reserve commenting on an extension of what tho, for obvious reasons ;)
 
@Simon my condolences
 
@TildalWave Well, Bart clearly disagreed with your suggestion so if he downvoted it's pretty appropriate.
 
@TildalWave comments are always fine, just saying that they already slaughtered the OP in the comments
 
@Simon Well, the very basic stuff is still pretty easy to accomplish. I'm basically going by a trial and error process to figure out what's going on. :P
 
I don't even need photoshop/gimp. Paint is more than enough :) — HamZa 8 secs ago
 
1:24 PM
@TerryChia yet he didn't downvote at all, the downvotes came later "out of nowhere"
 
@HamZa w0t?
 
@Simon lol
Someone serial upvoted some of my answers ...
now let's hope they won't get reverted :)
 
25 days consecutive. 75 to go until gold medal.
 
@Simon great
 
@Simon I wonder how many downvotes I will get on MSO if I suggest that badge be made repeatable. :P
 
1:36 PM
@TerryChia I dare you.
 
@TerryChia you'll get my upvote :)
 
This question is a duplicate of basically all three of your previous questions that were all put on hold for various reasons. In case you haven't noticed, you can edit your questions to be more in line with requirements and guidelines described in Help center and How to Ask pages, and/or edited to follow reservations of our reviewers as described in the reason for your questions' closure / being put on hold. Please review your previous questions and edit them accordingly. Posting new yet much the same questions only needlessly adds to our workload, and might not be tolerated for long. Thanks! — TildalWave 2 mins ago
 
I think it's interesting @ScottPack recommends PHP. Then again he uses Perl.
 
Too harsh? I've also VTC-ed it as a dupe
 
No it's not too harsh, the dude is an idiot.
I don't care if the #1 rule is to be nice, when the guy doesn't understand after 3 or 4 times, there's something wrong with him.
 
1:40 PM
@Simon oh I WAS nice :)
 
they just want a solution, they don't care if it's impossible, rude, off-topic
Don't bother too much, closevote it/flag it and move on ...
A bit sad to waste some seconds of my life with these kind of people ...
 
Excellent. I understand that there are some people still using Windows. It's nice to have them covered too. — Ladadadada 1 min ago
@Ladadadada heh.
 
@TerryChia :P
 
1:55 PM
@TerryChia Sometimes I just enjoy watching a good ole fashioned trainwreck.
 
@ScottPack So that's the reason you look in the mirror every day?
 
@TerryChia Such dross.
 
@TildalWave I could add a comment "THIS ONE IS MINE" before writing my answer...
 
2:21 PM
@ThomasPornin Hehe yes that would be neat :)
 
2:47 PM
I've just noticed that I occupy 40% of the starred list.
Well done, me.
Soon, 100%.
 
@Adnan Impossible, there is something pinned there :)
 
@Adnan The number of displayed entries in the list depends on the size of the display...
 
Translations: Size Matters.
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siesta hours in Europe really show in activity levels here... it's kinda slow these hours in summer
 
It's also Independence Day for both of us people in the USA.
 
2:55 PM
oh look, stars :)
 
I had to star size matters.
 
@ScottPack LOL both of you? But cheers I forgot what date it was! :P
 
Oh yeah, I thought about it yesterday but completely forgot today. You get the day off, right?
 
@ScottPack Oh yeah, the day you southerners began your adolescence crisis.
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laterz
 
2:59 PM
@ThomasPornin Oh, I see. But I believe there's a maximum, right?
It seems to be 10
 
@Adnan Buy me a 2560x1600 LCD, and I'll tell you if there is a maximum.
 
I have 10 too and there's a lot of free space.
 
@ThomasPornin [CTRL] + [Minus Sign] ;) It's a hack but it will change the display area for the stars wall. 10 seems to be maximum
 
@ThomasPornin Here you go
 
@Adnan That's a sweet tool.
 
3:04 PM
@Simon You're a sweet tool.
 
@Adnan Oh you <3
 
@Adnan it doesn't load it for me... it doesn't have access rights for the chat ;)
 
@Simon We generally do. My folks decided to come visit so I'm taking yesterday, today, and tomorrow off.
 
@ScottPack That's a long weekend.
 
@Simon Tell me about it
 
3:07 PM
@TildalWave It does load (for me), and it does not need access rights. SE chats are publicly accessible and can be viewed by anybody. You only need account & rep to participate.
 
@ScottPack you'll take a few days off to recoup after these few days off?
 
@TildalWave I'll just drink more.
 
@Adnan well dunno, it doesn't load it for me for whatever reason :O
 
@TildalWave Try another browser.
 
@Adnan that involves effort
I'll take your word on it ;)
 
3:09 PM
@TildalWave I'd take my word for it as well.
 
3:33 PM
someone wants to answer a closed question (sorry, a question on hold), with too much text for a comment, so he edits the question itself.
What's the procedure for that ?
 
We got a rep train on Physics!
 
that's a first - had to reject suggested edit for trying to fit an answer to the question within the question body, because it was put on hold in the meantime
@ThomasPornin oh yes that's same as what I just commented LOL... I just rejected with the message "Can't allow answers in the closed question bodies, sorry! I suggest you copy your contribution and post is as an answer to a new question."
 
@TildalWave Oh well, this answers my question: procedure is: just let others do the work.
Hey, hello @LucasKauffman
I heard you are about to switch kings ?
 
@ThomasPornin one way of doing it yes :)
Huh? Belgium is playing chess again?
 
@TildalWave Apparently their current sovereign has gone into Benedict XVI mode, and resigns because he feels too old to do the job properly.
 
3:42 PM
> Belgium's King Albert II announces abdication ... step down in favour of his son Crown Prince Philippe, 53, on 21 July, Belgium's national day.
 
@Tho as ye the man was getting old
 
@ThomasPornin and Queen Elizabeth II also announced maybe a month ago (?) she'll be involved with less of her duties due to age... and let's not forget the reasons for previous Pope to resign... same patterns there
 
His some has less charisma than him unfortunately
*son
Autocorrect :(
 
@LucasKauffman you're still in Spain?
 
@TildalWave Yes. It seems that retirement has become fashionable, over the more traditional way of being killed in battle or through poisoning by your successor.
 
3:46 PM
Nah work on my way to a client but huge traffic jam
 
@ThomasPornin we have a befitting saying here that they "wear cloth thicker than the bear's skin" (loose translation) ... I'm implying here that they're overly protected and given a bit more access to them by plebs as it used to be, this might not be a problem :)
{| style="float:right;" | |- | |} Albert II, (born 6 June 1934) is the King of the Belgians, a constitutional monarch. He is a member of the royal house "of Belgium"; formerly this house was named Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. He is the uncle of the current reigning Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Henri. On 3 July 2013, King Albert II attended a midday session of the Belgian cabinet. He then announced that on 21 July, he would abdicate the throne for health reasons. He will be succeeded by his son, Prince Philippe of Belgium. He is the third European monarch to abdicate in 2013, following Pope Benedict X...
And they're all Germans... interestingly :)
 
@TildalWave In France we prefer elected presidents, because: 1. elections happen more often, and 2. each election implies several losers, whose discomfited faces we can mock.
 
(Queen Elisabeth II, previous Pope, and Albert II)
Seems in this world crisis only Germans can afford to retire on old age ... even then just the blue-blooded of them. Funny times.
 
@TildalWave Elisabeth II would be more Dutch than German, no ?
Of course some people are arguing that Dutch people are just secessionist Germans
 
@ThomasPornin I think they're all descendants of royal families of German roots
 
3:57 PM
@Thomas he doesn't have any power though
 
no they're both German Saxe-Coburg and Gotha "royal house"
 
@LucasKauffman He maintains all Belgians united in a single country; that really looks like a superpower to me.
 
That's true
 
> It was founded by King George V by royal proclamation on 17 July 1917, when he changed the name of his family from the German Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (a branch of the House of Wettin) to the English Windsor...
 
Grrrr they shut down the highway
 
4:02 PM
@LucasKauffman hmm where's Tour de France at the moment?
 
I'm so tired of people linking the xkcd drop table.
 
nope, they're in Aix-en-Provence / Montpellier if my information is correct... that's at the Mediterranean coastline
 
@TildalWave Ah, got it. British sovereigns are supposed to be descendants of William III (Prince of Orange, a Dutch) but Victoria (then queen) married a Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Prince Albert)
So the name came from the Germans, but the royalty is still of Dutch origin
 
@ThomasPornin Something like that, I'll take your word on it. But they're all Germans, I tell you it's a conspiracy!! :))
 
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Q: Demonstrating SQL injection on the following

matt74tmI've got lines in my php/mysql code which look like this: ... $sqlquery = "SELECT price FROM products WHERE 1=1 AND id=".$_POST['id']; ... ... query is executed ... echo $price; As a test/demonstration, how can I subvert this to show something like a user's password if I had a table users like...

Why would you post an answer to a 2 year-old question and offer no more information than the accepted answer?
Also, his answer offers far less quality than the accepted one, as his example wouldn't work in most cases.
 
4:19 PM
@Simon Maybe he was just studying this and thought to post his findings as an answer? Doesn't matter I don't see it as a bad thing really, it keeps old questions alive.
 
Still, he's pretty much repeating what others said with a bad example.
 
then there's the necromancer badge... but he'll need 5 upvotes to get that one ;)
 
Hehe, good.
 
4:31 PM
@TildalWave I have 28 of those (+2 with Bear #2).
 
Bear #2 being Crypto account?
 
@Simon Bear #2 is my secondary account (say, my sock puppet) on Sec.SE
 
What's the name of it?
 
Is it really yours?
Here we go.
 
4:39 PM
@Simon DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVER !
 
Sounds like a second personality, honestly.
 
5:06 PM
@Simon Thomas can do this, but that doesn't mean having another account like this is a subject to free interpretation... it is not allowed for us mere mortals ;)
and he only posts answers with the other account, if you check you'll see he never cast any votes with it
 
@TildalWave Oh yeah, that's right. Who would allow you to do this?
(Definitely not gonna do it, just being curious)
 
@Simon well I was wondering about much the same things not too long ago, I'm only 5 months here ;)
 
Right, I keep thinking that you're an old-timer. I mean, you're old and all that but haven't been here for too long. :)
 
not sure how long in DMZ but IIRC I didn't jump into the deep part of the pool as soon as I made an account... and I actually started being active on SO first
@Simon oh cheers! :)
 
Haha
 
5:13 PM
according to his profile, The Bear isn't that much younger... tho I must admit I haven't a clue how bears count years
 
It is obviously encrypted.
 
@Simon Creating secondary accounts is allowed by SO under the rule that any given user shall not vote more than once on the same thing. There are (unpublished) automatic scripts that runs regularly and try to detect fraudulent vote patterns.
I don't vote at all with Bear #2, thus avoiding any issue.
 
The point of creating a second account would be to somewhat avoid the cap limit?
Or at least double it.
 
@Simon Oh no. That would be quite useless: the rep cap still applies on all accounts.
 
@ThomasPornin But Bear #1 can vote for Bear #2, no? :P
 
5:22 PM
Then I'm failing to see the point of having a second account then.
 
@Simon I have problems getting +10 most of the days let alone reach rep cap... I did reach it on a few days but those were busy days not like these last weeks
 
We need proof that bear #1 doesn't vote for bear #2. PROOF! NOW!
 
Yeah, what's up with the last weeks? Summer?
 
@ManishEarth He could but he doesn't (you cannot check it easily, though -- but the SE admins can see it). Ah yes, the SE rule is also "don't vote for each other".
@Simon It is for showing off.
 
I know, I know, I'm a mod too
 
5:24 PM
@ThomasPornin That's what I wanted to hear :D
Or read.
I like how you actually admit that you're a show-off.
 
@Simon Well, denying it would be kinda ridiculous.
 
@ManishEarth Did you feel the ground shake when you asked for proof The Bear #1 doesn't vote on #2?
 
@TildalWave I think :P
 
Well, you could argue that you simply love to share your knowledge (which is probably the case too).
 
@ManishEarth That was your survival instinct! ;)
 
5:26 PM
But yeah, the whole point of rep is for showing off.
 
@Simon Admittedly, it really works only when you are on top.
 
@Simon meh that's pretty pointless unless you can be #1 but you do get some cookies with every rep milestone and cookies are always good, no?
 
True, everyone loves cookies.
 
Holy crap, I can create tags and I didn't even know.
 
5:29 PM
@Simon and I can reject them :P
 
That's mean.
 
well, technically I think there need to be two reviewers that agree...
 
That's why you need a 2nd account!
 
@TildalWave If you take any three reviewers, at least two will agree.
@Simon That counts as voting, too.
 
Whoops.
I wonder if adding your SE profile to your résumé or CV could do any good.
Of course assuming that you post quality stuff.
 
5:34 PM
@Simon careers.stackoverflow.com
 
@ThomasPornin one could refrain from voting tho... you need three active reviewers. I know I know, I'm being anal :)
 
Well, let's assume that you're not applying for a job through the careers section on here.
 
@Simon Has anyone actually done that?
 
@TildalWave That's what I'm wondering.
 
@Simon @Polynomial has reported having boasted, in a job interview, about him having the most upvoted answer on Security.SE.
 
5:38 PM
@ThomasPornin That's awesome, haha.
 
@ManishEarth that "favorite editor" question is always answered in same way :)
> Favorite editor: As long as it takes my keyboard as input I'm fine with it. Remember "edit"?
or...
> Favorite editor: Notepad! OK, Dreamweaver, for syntax highlighting, but I steer clear of WYSIWYG.
 
I used to use edit till Windows got rid of it
Ought to update that
These days I'm on gedit, geany, and nano (forgot how to use vim)
 
I honestly don't mind, as long as it compiles
 
Notepad once gave me issues with that
It was messing with the encoding and the userscripts which I was working on were rendered uninstallable
 
Herro
 
@ThomasPornin Yup, I did indeed mention that in an interview.
for my current job :)
 
6:20 PM
@Polynomial Right, I'm adding in my CV I'm on friendly terms with most top reputation members on Sec.SE! :)
... and that I nearly collected one flag for Sec.SE CTF team :))
 
@TildalWave It is only fitting, since Slovenia is the main purveyor of live bears for France.
 
You have family in Slovenia @Thomas
 
@ThomasPornin That's true... but you do realize where our surplus of bears comes from, no? They came here as refugees during the Balkans wars from Croatia and Bosnia. We've always had pretty constant number of bears before that. And I must say most people here are quite appalled at how they ended up being treated in France. Hack, we even sent some of our younger bears that accidentally became too friendly with humans to rehabilitation camp for bears organized by Vier Pfoten in north of Romania.
 
I think I just had the worst food ever at a hotel
 
@TildalWave A lot of French people are also appalled at it, too.
@LucasKauffman Worst food is no food. Otherwise, regardless what they give you, you can always elect not to eat it.
But, hey, tell us what you got. You obviously need to vent a bit about it
 
6:31 PM
I actually stopped half way and I'm endulging myself in the cheese buffet
 
@ThomasPornin I believe it wasn't really French people that were causing problems, it just happened in France (quote needed LOL). But I don't wanna go there, it's not any different anywhere in Europe these days. :I
 
It's just cold and dry
I don't think they would pass a health inspection tbh
Food inspection
 
@TildalWave "France would be the most marvellous of countries if it wasn't so full of French people."
 
That's a crazy but so mean quote.
 
It depends on where they come from Parisians tend to be quote cocky
I do like the Provence
Especially montpelier
 
6:44 PM
Aah, rep cap.
 
Time to break out leek
 
@LucasKauffman No, I mean Leek has rep-capped. The other account rep-capped a few hours ago.
 
LOL
 
LOL
Crazy French Canadian bears
 
@ThomasPornin That's a quote from somewhere? Because I know of nearly the same quote for Romania by one of their most renown poets, but I haven't heard any like that before for France :O
 
6:47 PM
@ThomasPornin How's your Québecois accent doing?
 
@Simon About half of the Québécois I talk to are unsure about whether I am French or not, after a few sentences. So I must be gradually getting it, after all.
 
@ThomasPornin Sweet! Some have been living here for 20 years and you can tell immediately they're from France.
 
@TildalWave I have read it in various languages about various countries. It is a real but most plagiarized quote.
 
7:29 PM
good old Russia Today hating the USA
 
@ThomasPornin I can lend you my account if you wanna bypass the rep cap, you know.
Nobody will expect it, nobody!
 
@Simon Thanks, but I think I'll survive it nonetheless.
 
You better say thanks, 'cause I was obviously doing this for you. I'm such a nice person.
 
@Simon This is duly noted.
 
:)
 
 
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hmm, looks like a lot of honeypot software hasn't been maintained for ages ;-/ kippo and honeyd are like 3 years and 5 years since their last versions. dunno if that scares me or not ;-)
oh, not kippo. apparently there's a april 5th version available. seemed to have jumped 3 years in releases
 
 
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10:34 PM
ssssshhhh AHEM, silence, I have an announcement.
And shame on you, if you're too young to get that reference.
and sorry if I've been ignoring you kids lately....
 
@AviD! !!!!!!!!!!
@ThomasP and @Simon - I got a new PA and she is Canadian. She is very good.
 
10:52 PM
@AviD Wow congrats!! Blimey you're in copy mode :)) And don't worry about ignoring us, you had better things to do obviously like smoking a cigar and getting pissed and such :)
@AviD Looks a bit like you already :) There goes the neighborhood LOL
 
11:34 PM
thanks guys :)
@TildalWave more like catching up on missed sleep...
I have a feeling that one month from now I am going to be so damn tired, it is going to cause a rip in the time/space continuum, reaching back to today and leaking out some extra tired. Or maybe it's because I missed a night or two...
 
11:55 PM
@Sirex Dionaea is still maintained
 

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