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18:00
@Cole Yeah sconfig.cmd simply calls sconfig.vbs which is in windows\system32\en-US which is just a big ass VB script that flips registry values and such
@RyanRies hrm you may have led me down the rabbit hole.
I appreciate it! Trying to automate the enabling/disabling of RDP
Since we only do it on the fly.
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Why not just change the reg key?
@WesleyDavid I would read that...
That vbs script will tell you which reg key to change
I would find it for you but I am lazy
@Dan I'm trying to figure out how to write it to get it to loop
Dan
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18:02
TSDenyConnections or whatever would do it, no?
Oh, I guess I missed a lot of conversation
SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\fsDenyTSConnections
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Yeah, that one
I was hoping for a cleaner way than alerting the reg. key from 0 to 1
@Dan You'd read the smeared guts of a deer on the side of a highway. Which is still a better love story than Twilight.
Harry and the 50 Shades of Twilight Hunger.... The quest for more money
Dan
Dan
18:03
@WesleyDavid :P
How hard is it to move Sharepoint from one domain to another?
@Dan Wow, I @'d the wrong person and line. The hell is wrong with me!
I'll guzzle this coffee and get back to you all.
@WesleyDavid You don't own a bike
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@WesleyDavid I think it's clear at this point that you god damn suck at computers.
@Cole Those are the final words of many sysadmins
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18:04
@Cole Ah-ha
@Dan @RyanRies What I'm trying to do, for the RDP stuff is create a script for the Hell Desk Operators.
The Sharepoint thing is for our company in CO.
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@Cole Cleaner in what way - that's how it works
@Cole depends on how you try to do it...
I'm not going to do it.
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@Cole So, a script run remotely, or locally?
18:05
@Dan ctrl-alt-you-suck-at-computers
But I want to let them know, yeah you shouldn't have built a Sharepoint server without asking, and no I won't help you move it.
@Cole Chances of crash and burn are quite high I think
@Dan remotely enable on servers from their desk
We're decomming the domain they built it on.
@Cole well, basically the way I would do it, is back up the SQL side, and rebuild the whole damn thing on a new server, set up right
@freiheit So that's been my trouble all this time!
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18:06
@Cole Easiest way - teach them how to connect to other computers using regedit!
@MattBear I'll forward that info. along, thank you.
Anyone know offhand what I'm doing wrong in Word? I have a doc I changed the orientation from portrait to landscape on. Now when I try to center something on the page it still acts like it is portrait and only moves it over a little (not to center).
Apple experts, do I get a new MBP now or wait it out until August?
@Dan Let me put it this way....they can't even search the ticketing database to make sure they're not putting in duplicate tickets.
@Dan Remote regedit! When you absolutely, positively have to screw that computer up over the network.
They're literally just operators, everything needs to be 1-2 steps.
@TheCleaner You may need to drag little dingles on a ruler around
The red dots say "Wait"
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@WesleyDavid As discussed, that's just you
18:07
@freiheit Tried that...no go
found something interesting on azure...
@voretaq7 But I have to get it before august, so I don't know... I mean 802.11ac isn't all that useful to me.
@Jacob why do you have to get it before August?
Woohoo! It's official! I go in and start work this afternoon at 14:30PDT.
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@Jacob Why Pro?
@voretaq7 Nice.
@Adrian good news
@Adrian Congratulations!
Non-centered on landscape =
@Adrian Hooray! Congrats!
18:09
@Adrian the night shift?
@voretaq7 That's when I start Uni
centered on landscape =
@Jacob Nah, going in as early as I can. Just sent off the email with the salary/stock selection this morning.
margins look fine, etc. grrr...
18:10
I'll be the 2nd DevOps Engineer at a little gaming company called Jawfish.
@MilesErickson I just feel like the air is not going to be enough of a computer. Plus I'd really like 15"
@Jacob I'd wait a little while - the iGPU on the Haswell based MBP's will be literally twice the performance and you'll get a little extra battery time too - plus the move to m.2 SSDs will add about 50% to your sustained reads and writes
@TheCleaner Is that table floating over the text?
@TheCleaner What does the ruler bar look like if you have the cursor in one of the lines that won't center?
no...and new text on a new page acts the same way. Centering the table itself doesn't work right either.
@MilesErickson Like you see in the pic. If I go into the table the ruler margins change to the table dimensions
drpms -> derpums
18:12
@TheCleaner You sure there's no center tab set?
yes sir...no center tab set. I cleared all tabs just to be sure...
@Jacob ...and you can't buy one after?
Over the weekend, a friend and his 15-year-old son flew out to the island with me. Son dropped his iPhone 4 on the tarmac and shattered the screen. Lucky kid: due to Apple's unexpected generosity when my own screen broke last summer, I happened to have a spare iPhone 4 screen at the cabin.
@Adrian congrats
I wish our help desk wasn't useless
18:15
@MilesErickson and you now look like MacGyver?
They make more work for us than anything.
if the kid knew who MacGyver was, that is
@Tanner Thanks. I've very excited. Lots of new things to learn and a bunch of great people to work with.
@TomW Pretty much. Used blue tape to keep the screws in order, MacGyver definitely would have used duct tape.
@TomW I know who MacGyver is!!!!
18:16
@Adrian You said it's a Ruby shop? I've never met a Rubyist I didn't like.
@Adrian From their website they seem like cool people.
@Tanner Thanks. I've very excited. Lots of new things to learn and a bunch of great people to work with
@Adrian Does that stop projectruby thing?
@Adrian Wait, we get to know who they are?
@Jacob No, but I'm going to approach it more methodically.
18:17
@voretaq7 I guess I could, but it complicates things
@MilesErickson Yeah. Kinda hoping it gets lost in the background noise that this room generates though. =)
@Adrian cool, I'm glad you found a position
@Jacob It's been a long 11 weeks.
@Adrian and I still can't type THUNK THUNK THUNK
@Adrian their tagline is corny. "Stop playing with yourself"
18:19
@Adrian nice
@DennisKaarsemaker yeah. I can't wait to wear one of the hoodies with that one the back. =)
@Adrian Happppy?
@Adrian WOOOOOOOO
@Adrian hmm, that may be considered soliciting :P
Think about it! this time in 2012 you were like "Fuuuuck this sucks"
18:20
@ewwhite Very. Lots of DevOps goodness to learn and an awesome team of people.
@JoelESalas No kidding, right?
sent 146128 bytes received 16555501684 bytes 27754648.47 bytes/sec
#yolo #losangeles #dtla #colo #10gbe
@Adrian what is the position?
@ewwhite Giggity
@ScottPack rofl, you give me hope for becoming a crotchety old man.
@ewwhite I think he's a DevOps Engineer.
18:22
@ewwhite It's DevOps. Sounds like a lot of release engineering and infrastructure management.
@ewwhite But, we don't have to vote him off the island. He'll do it right.
@Adrian for what type of firm?
@Adrian Right?
@Adrian "works on my machine"
@JoelESalas Are you saying that I'm a crotchety old man that you would hope to turn into?
18:23
I have an odd engineering problem to solve.
That's the best kind.
@MilesErickson - it's definitely something I did to this particular doc though...grrr...others work fine after swapping to landscape. Yet nothing shows up on the ruler
@ewwhite Gaming startup.
@ewwhite add 1 to make it even
@Adrian Coo!
18:23
@TheCleaner Don't rule out the possibility that it's actually misbehaving.
@ScottPack Correct, though I think @ewwhite wins in the "pure crotchetyness" department
possible...it was a template from a 2003 Word...time to see if I can manipulate it by exporting it to excel and back or similar.
@JoelESalas He has more reason. Remember, I'm in security for a large public university. He's a systems contractor for produce companies. Which one of us do you think has the shittier job?
@TheCleaner To Excel? Try RTF. Or, try pasting the content into a valid document and then updating the metadata.
@ScottPack Do you use a command-line mail client? On purpose??
18:25
@ScottPack And collection agencies, and financial trading firms, and cloud computing, and pr0n...
@JoelESalas mutt ftw
I was trying Excel because the whole thing is basically tables...
@JoelESalas Are you old enough to know what it feels like to see "You have new mail." appear unexpectedly above your command prompt? That's reason enough right there.
Ahem, so as I was saying... My engineering problem is that a device seems to have lost its IP address.
@Jacob If you must buy, get an Air
18:26
@ewwhite What sort of device?
@ewwhite have you looked under the carpet?
@Jacob Do as @voretaq7 says. Remember, resale value is high. You are never locked into a Mac.
@MilesErickson @Jacob Honestly an Air is probably the right laptop for most of us.
@MilesErickson @DennisKaarsemaker This device...
@MilesErickson I suppose not ;_;
18:27
The lack of Ethernet sucks, but everything else about it (small, portable, excellent battery life) fits right in
@ewwhite iCharger - it really blows.
@voretaq7 I mean, I look at the clock speeds and I just wonder
@ewwhite I think I see it written on the side...
I definitely get link...
@Jacob Or, if you must buy an old model, look in the refurb section of the Apple web site. Very often you'll find the same thing there for 20% off. I have never seen any evidence that a "refurbished" Mac purchased from Apple is anything but exactly like new, and I wouldn't be surprised if they sell new computers as refurbished from time to time. I think there's a business term for that sort of a sales strategy...
18:28
@ewwhite why does it need one?
The MAC lookup on the switch yields...
I see a device on that port with MAC address 0026.921a.55e5
That shows up as manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Electric Co.
2-7-3 Marunouchi
Chiyoda-ku Tokyo 100-8310
JAPAN
do you see any frames/packets coming from it?
@TomW Because it's controlled and monitored by a firm in the Netherlands...
if not, powercycle whatever is doing the networking inside it
@ewwhite heh, now there's a surprise. There's hundreds of those in a 50km radius around me
It was struck by lightning... and the MAC and lookup indicates that we're linked directly into a control unit of some sort.
18:30
if not thousands
@voretaq7 @Jacob I agree. Honestly, this 11" Air is the fastest computer I've ever used as a personal workstation, and the Thunderbolt-GigE adapter is better than the Ethernet port on my old MBP.
@DennisKaarsemaker this is the only one in Chicago.
but seriously, try power cycling and check for dhcp packets. If it's statically configured, rtfm :)
@DennisKaarsemaker it's static.
@Jacob But, if you buy one, be sure to configure it with upgraded RAM since it can't be done later.
18:32
@DennisKaarsemaker Clearly it needs to be hit by lightning again.
well, then rtfm. You may need to redo the config if the lightning wiped out something
@DennisKaarsemaker are you suggesting I just pull the power plug on it?!?
@MilesErickson I mean I'm strongly considering it on price alone at this point. Lemme pull up Intel ARK for specs
@ewwhite no, I'm suggesting "Vote to close" -> "Too localized" :)
@MilesErickson - screw it...I'm copying and pasting it into a new landscape doc each text table at a time. seems to be working...only have 13 pages, so still faster than figuring out what is wrong.
18:33
@ewwhite Do they have a Support contract?
@DennisKaarsemaker When I was installing it, I can't remember where I plugged the power in...
@TheCleaner I approve. Sounds an awful lot like your original document is somehow invisibly corrupt.
@TheCleaner Unzipping the .docx file and drowning yourself in XML is not advised.
@Jacob yes, support is suggesting that I climb into the top of the wind turbine and reprogram its IP configuration.
@ewwhite I can be there tomorrow morning with my climbing harness.
@ewwhite Isn't that why you buy @MDMarra? So you don't have to do such things.
18:36
@ewwhite It's worth it, just for the story...
@ewwhite So... why does this device not have a serial port?
like accessible at ground level.
@JoelESalas Nah, I use Outlook.
@voretaq7 I don't know! At least it doesn't have a Netgear unmanaged switch in it, like some of my other industrial equipment.
@JoelESalas That's Outlook on Mac for those keeping score at home.
@MilesErickson yeah...if I had kept it as a .doc I might have been fine...but converting it to docx might have done something in the background I didn't care for
18:38
@ScottPack Air?
@MilesErickson I could take pics...
@ewwhite O'Hare or Midway?
@MilesErickson Looking at the full proc specs. The MB air does look better, and at 500$ less than 15" MBP with a full spec out
But since this thing can't be monitored, it's been spinning backwards and such.
@MilesErickson It's a few miles from Midway.
@ewwhite That's bad
18:40
Okay, not really spinning backwards... but shouldn't it be a PoE device or something? That seems more appropriate.
@MilesErickson 13" MBP. It was only about $150 more than the 13" Air and was a much better machine for the same battery life.
Outlook 2011 for Mac is actually pretty nice overall.
@ewwhite You're going to like this.
@TheCleaner can you add several accounts to Outlook for Mac
@ewwhite - tell them you're going to be required to parachute drop into the turbine to get to the console.
18:42
So it's either a refreshed 15 MBP or a full spec 13 air
@JoelESalas Hmm?
@LucasKauffman Like a personal and a corporate or 2 Exchange accounts at the same time?
@TheCleaner yes
@TheCleaner yea
@TheCleaner because entourage lacked this feature apparantly
@LucasKauffman Not multiple Exchange accounts.
Wait, sorry. Outlook yes.
It also handles shared mailboxes correctly.
Mail, however, fucking sucks for that.
18:46
@ewwhite you'd have less trouble.... :-)
@voretaq7 can I arp it an address or something?
:) yes you can have multiple...even Exchange accounts...as long as it is Exch2007 or higher
@ewwhite it'd be unmanaged -- nothing to configure :)
I think by default it does a "merged Inbox" but you can separate out the accounts/inboxes as well.
@voretaq7 right, but I have a looooong cable going from the top of the turbine to... I guess my Cisco 4507?
18:48
rappel off that cable...take pics.
How many sys admins does it take to fix a ... wind turbine???
I'm not really this incompetent.
Can't it all be this simple? testaproduce.com
I was commenting on how odd the problem was, it's rather interesting that you have to fix a wind turbine.
@ewwhite how does any device negotiate itself an IP in the first place? I'm not being facetious and I don't know the answer...but if you can, watch and see if it's trying to do that and what the result is?
@TomW It's not. I just see link and that's about it. It's not responding on its old IP address.
18:52
@TomW Lots of devices (most devices) ask for IP addresses at startup using DHCP. It sounds like this wind turbine had a static IP address, as any self-respecting wind turbine rightly should.
I rather doubt that the real RHCE exam will ask you to do something that is not only impossible but violates best practices so egregiously. I don't know what exam you're looking at, but I suspect you wasted your money on it. — Michael Hampton 57 secs ago
@MilesErickson gotcha.
@TomW @ewwhite There are really only three options: Static configuration ; DHCP/BootP ; APIPA
I'm basically a rubber duck here.
@ewwhite I'd love to climb your turbine. Just let me know. In the meantime, I'm off for a bit. Cheers.
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18:53
@MilesErickson I gave the turbine installers the static IP 2 years ago. It went offline a few weeks back after another lightning strike.
@ewwhite You'd think that wind turbines would be like airliners, i.e. designed to continue operating normally after being struck by lightning.
Damnit, I'm out of close votes for the day already and it's only 1 PM.
(though luckily SF uses a time zone far away from me, but still...)
@kamelion If the question is a simple "How would you go about..." (i.e. purely theoretical), the answer above is how you'd do it. If the question is practical, the answer is "You shouldn't do that. It's Bad And Wrong, violates [the Principle of Least Astonishment[(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment), and will make the next sysadmin want to cause you serious bodily harm". — voretaq7 43 secs ago
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thank you chat for oneboxing my typo.
and caching it.
KICKS CHAT
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KICKS CAT (@WesleyDavid) TOO
I don't think that's an RHCE question.
18:56
Can we have extra close votes at some level of rep on this site? ;)
but it's been years for me...
@ewwhite It isn't. He seems to have downloaded a fake RHCE practice exam somewhere.
@MichaelHampton !! That's... there's a MARKET for fake RHCE exams??!?
Not in the Western World, I hope....
@ewwhite There's a market for "real" ones, so obviously fake knockoffs are going to show up. And no, I don't think he's in the western world...
given the extortionate rates sometimes charged for exams, it's entirely fair that people seek out practice material ;)
18:59
@voretaq7 Y U PUNT KITTEH ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

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