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Q: Are lay articles good enough to be the main source of information for PhD research?

asmgxDoing PhD in new field that does not have enough resources in it. Most of the information I find are articles written in websites such as medium.com. I really feel awkward citing a website article, as I feel it is not good enough. It is not from university, it has just the author name, not much ...

How do you know what Google is researching if you can't read their research?
@curiousdannii because they have it as product they are selling as a service. there are documents of how to use that product but no documents of how they did it. in top i read the news about this product and google said they have been doing research for 10 years on that.
Whether an article is good enough to use as a research source depends greatly on the quality of the individual article. There will certainly be researchers with a gift for presentation to layfolk who write "lay" articles of a very high quality. And there are journal articles not worth the paper they are printed on. But the reverse is true even more often.
@asmgx well, but you won't be writing a thesis about their research, right? If you want to advance state of art in a particular subfield (which is a key requirement for PhD level research), then you'll need to develop some methods and tools by yourself that are improvements on whatever methods are currently known and published, and the fact that Google has done something similar behind closed doors is just a side-note in the related work section, it's not the main source for your research work. If the methods are not published, then re-developing them is novel, publishable research.
TIP: Look at the publication list of the blog's authors on google scholar.
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Can you repeat or recreate what is described in the articles, to verify it? Science is supposed to be repeatable, right? Can you perhaps get a paper out of verifying what is in the articles more rigorously?
Are you able to provide some more detail on what area of AI you're researching? AI is a very big field so it would help to narrow it down a bit.
What exactly is the Google service that you're trying to publish a paper on the functionality of?
@asmgx: For safety reason, I advice you not to answer nick12000's question.
@user114084 Safety?! I can see a (rather paranoid, IMHO) concern about getting scooped, but if a three word answer is enough to cause that, it was going to happen anyway..
Emphatically, no. AI has been around for 50 years. A lot of the work being done today represents an implementation or extension of work that was done in the 60s. A Ph.D. based on "lay articles" isn't much of a Ph.D.
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what does your supervisor say?
@Matt Even if he does get scooped, that'd just mean that he'd get a paper to cite in his thesis! ;)
To expand on comment from @aaaaaa Really sounds like this is the wrong place to ask the question. You need advice from an expert in the field with whom you can discuss the detail. That should be your supervisor; if they cannot do that, why are they your supervisor? If you dispute their view, go ahead and seek advice from other members of faculty, potentially as a change of supervisor. Importantly, really listen to what they have to say regards concerns. Spending time on a badly conceived thesis idea is not a good idea.
Ray
Ray
You say that there are articles on medium.com about this topic. Can you link to them so we have some idea what you're trying to find information about? I agree with the others who have said that this seems very odd. If there are popular science articles about it, there are presumably at least some papers on the arxiv. And if google's done work on it, I'd be surprised if they haven't published something themselves (they usually do). I suspect that either you haven't been looking in the right places, or perhaps the articles you've read have used weird, nonstandard terminology for the topic.
@Ray I have contacted google twice, both times they said [ We do not disclose the details of modeling behind these products.]
@Peteris Thanks, That is an answer
@YYY trust me I looked, there things close to the topic but nothing about it
Ray
Ray
@asmgx Fair enough, but while google may not be willing to help you, we might be able to. But we stand a better chance of being able to do so if you tell us what articles (or even what product) you're talking about.
 
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Speaking as an AI researcher, I very strongly suspect you are simply unable to find the research you are interested in. If you can describe the topic or link to a medium.com article, I can connect you with published research on the topic.

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