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Say, is the Roadster already in the rocket?
i guess it must be. i saw the images of it on its adapter, of course, but i thought they might actually put it on the thing later. but i suppose that with those bolted on side boosters, you don't want to take down the rocket and do stuff with it and put it back up very much.
i sure hope that thing has a dash-cam...
 
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10:45
@kimholder Unless it's got a very well positioned window, you wouldn't see much would you? Some shaking and the inner wall of the fairing (is that what it's called, I'm reasonably new to this)
 
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@kimholder I really hope there are multiple cameras. I assume Elon has thought of this - marketing is important
12:52
@kimholder The pictures of the roadster were with it about to be encapsulated, so...
Also, if they were going to do tests without it, they probably wouldn't have the full fairing there.
They actually take it down plenty, so...
Also, I'm almost certain there are lots of cameras. Otherwise, what is the point?
 
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posted on January 17, 2018 by William Graham

Japan’s experimental radar imaging satellite ASNARO-2 will be launched Thursday aboard the third flight of…

14:41
@Edlothiad sure - until it's released....
then it tumbles slowly through space, hopefully with the earth and moon occasionally coming into view, and slowly receding into the distance.
or, it explodes along with the rest of the rocket.
That is, if it is released.
@kimholder Oh, of course.... The idea is to just let it tumble through space. I don't know why I thought differently.
Well, I guess the fairing will be released, but...
And now I'm confused.
There's no evidence that the car has a transmitter.
I think they can go via the second stage, however, but that will run out of power fairly quickly.
14:49
Is there any reason they couldn't just have stuck a transmitter on the car?
Power.
Thermal control.
Well I mean that much is evident.
You'd basically have to turn it into a mini satellite, at a fair bit of expense, and loosing the look.
It depends how much of a short term publicity stunt he wants to make it compared to a long term one
yeah, after i said that, i wondered how long it could transmit. but it is going to separate, right?
or does it stay on top of the 2nd stage?
14:57
It really looks like it's going to stay on the second stage.
@kimholder They have been raising and lowering it almost daily for each days attempt. So the up down is not an issue. But I do think, the Roadster is atop it since the fairing has stayed atop, and they showed it being encapsulated.
But that's hard to say.
@PearsonArtPhoto The theory seems to be, make a larger radar target in case some day, it impinges on some ones flight path. And one piece of junk vs 2 is still better.
I wonder if they removed the battery pack. Tesla is reworking Roadster packs to be 70 or 80 Kwh packs, but it requires rebuilding an existing pack, and is basically being done by hand, as one offs. Only 2500 ever built, minus the dozens destroyed/crashed/lost (There was a fire that ate 6 or 7 all at once) so not worth automating it.
So I assume Elon got that upgrade first. So his pack is actually valuable. Be smart to at least swap it with someone elses pack, if they need it for structural support.
i think this thing is going to live in infamy whether it transmits for a while or not. i know i will want to know when it next swings past earth.
heh, if the rocket explodes, they should go through the motions of declaring that the battery pack was not responsible for the fire.
And it's easier to keep on.
Separation is difficult.
Well, eventually we will get it's trajectory matched. Will be interesting to see it.
15:12
@PearsonArtPhoto Model S it is easy to swap by design. I know it CAN be removed, since when they refurb a pack to the new standard, you remove your pack, get someones elses re-packed pack instead. Next guy gets your pack repacked and trades in his.
So they can and do do it, and likely this has already happened once to this car, in order to get the upgrade.
15:27
I mean separation between the second stage and satellite.
 
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#FalconHeavy update: it looks like Friday’s test window has been adjusted by 30 minutes. The window is now 15:30–21:30 EST (20:30-02:30 UTC). This is, of course, 100% reliant on the Atlas V launching tomorrow evening. #SpaceX https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/953601924569452544
20:34
Chris G is onsite in Florida, set up with a camera to try and catch the video. So he is literally man on the site for NSF.
Not to be confused with Chris B (Bergen) who runs/manages NSF most of the time.
You are far more into those kinds of details then I.
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Q: What is the planned date for the Falcon Heavy Demo launch from Vandenberg AFB?

medosAccording to Wikipedia and SpaceX, this demo flight is scheduled for 2014. A group of us from San Diego want to come and watch the launch from a distance. Is there any scheduled date for the launch? If there's no specific date planned yet, what's the best resource/website to check to keep up w...

maybe you should add the history tag to that one :D
20:54
LOL
I think my answer is proving to be true enough.
Don't plan a trip until it's a month out, or even better, 2-3 weeks out.
 
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@ReactingToAngularVues Regarding Your edit on my question about Barge Cycle time. I noted that NSF folk are doing the tracking becaue doing it yourself is somewhat tricky and there are folk who seem to think it is fun, so leverage their work.
22:24
Third column of this page 1 PDF starts explaining that SpaceX's issue with the sonic boom distrurbing seals on landing at Vandy is now not a problem.
Yay!
22:40
@geoffc Hi! Yeah, I'm not a fan of unneeded plugs where necessary personally; I wouldn't remove it generally if it was vital to understanding the answer, but that seemed tangential
Personally I think Reddit, NSF, Facebook, etc have too greater of a stranglehold on spaceflight discussion
And each group comes with its own set of power users
That being said, if you were to link to a discussion about AIS on NSF, I'd have no problems with it at all :)
Since that'd be clearly contributing
@ReactingToAngularVues They are not stragleholds. They are additional sources of info.
Disagree with you there :)
I check Reddit and NSF for more info, to bring back to questions here. I think every group are a bunch of arrogant jerks. But so what? I am too.
So you ignore the jerkitude, and search for the interesting data.
If you feel strongly about it, feel free to revert my edit! I generally try to act on good faith, and you have more rep here than me so implicitly I trust your judgement more.
Oh, here is a good one from NSF! AtlasV and F-H in the same frame!
1st time #ULA #AtlasV and @SpaceX #FalconHeavy Go Vertical simultaneously at #Pad41 and #39A today Jan 17 after Atlas V hazy day rollout this afternoon for launch Jan 18 as Falcon Heavy awaits 1st static fire test. Credit: @ken_kremer http://SpaceUpClose.com #SpaceUpClose
22:45
As an aside: I think those photos say a lot about just how advanced our cameras and lenses have become. What's the crow-flies distance between that photo and Atlas V there
severe atmospheric distortion makes me want to say at least 10 miles
I LOVE the fact, Musk makes a totally ridiculous joke, and he has the money/desire to make them real... Like F-H payload being his Roadster. Now his joke about Boring Company 5000'th hat buyer gets a flamethrower!
Hahahaha!
Now people have to start daring himi to make even crazier jokes, so we can get crazier crap made/sold/launched.
@ReactingToAngularVues Very much so! And these are people with consumer equipment.
I heard from someone at a big electronics store that after the Amos-6 RUD there was a giant order for camera equipment.

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