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I can also guarantee that aliens will never visit Earth
Or at least see humans
big talk...
sure we have no indication otherwise, but i have a feeling the universe holds a lot of shocks for us
That's true too
well this is probably why my friends call me a buzzkill...
meh, it can be a virtue
I guess
I really only found the physics parts interesting in astronomy
And I'm blown away by how we've found stars within stars
A Thorne–Żytkow object (TŻO or TZO) is a type of star wherein a red giant or supergiant contains a neutron star at its core, formed from the collision of the giant with the neutron star. Such objects were hypothesized by Kip Thorne and Anna Żytkow in 1977. In 2014, it was discovered that the star HV 2112 was a strong candidate. == Formation == A Thorne–Żytkow object is formed when a neutron star collides with a star, typically a red giant or supergiant. The colliding objects can simply be wandering stars. This is only likely to occur in extremely crowded globular clusters. Alternatively, ...
Or stars that predate the Big Bang
HD 140283, informally nicknamed Methuselah star, is a metal-poor subgiant star about 190 light years away from the Earth in the constellation Libra. Its apparent magnitude is 7.223. The star has been known to astronomers for over a century as a high-velocity star, and an early spectroscopic analysis by Chamberlain and Aller found it to have a substantially lower metal content than the Sun. Modern spectroscopic analyses find an iron content about a factor of 250 lower than that of the Sun. It is one of the closest Population II stars to us. == Age and significance == Because HD 140283 is neither...
ha! that is awfully cool
00:09
posted on March 09, 2016 by Chris Bergin

Arianespace is preparing for it second Ariane 5 launch of the year with the lofting of the Eutelsat 65 West A relay satellite. Following a rare single passenger... Related posts: Ariane 5 conducts dual launch for Australia and Argentina Ariane 5 conducts dual launch of Eutelsat 8 West B and Intelsat 34 Ariane 5 conducts MSG-4 and Star One C4 dual launch

i haven't gotten into astronomy because i've been so busy with planetary science
Well yeah, it's implying that we either have a problem with our model for the Universe, or our method of telling star ages
Planetary science is awesome too
Bit off topic, but do ya ever think we'll be able to reach the mantle of the Earth?
So far we've only gone 1/3rd through the crust
00:23
hm
it seems to me it would be easier to get to the mantle of the Moon
largely the same stuff
00:46
@kimholder late reply but... haha thanks, maybe a bit laid back since I was fighting the flu, funny you use "hobbit-like", I was told recently I look like Martin Freeman
i can totally see it
01:06
yea that's me in the middle while the F9R tries to land lol
01:19
lol :P
01:37
@duzzy :P
 
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03:14
Planetary Radio Live: Planet 9 and our expanding solar system is now live if anyone is interested livestream.com/kpcclive/…
oh cool
04:01
Possible image of OCISLY with a hole in the deck.
Someone was heading there with a drone, waiting for those photos still. This might be one of them.
 
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05:06
05:17
can anyone load arianespace stream?
this one doesn't work for me arianespace.com/mission/ariane-flight-va229
livestream says offline original.livestream.com/arianespace
youtube starting soon youtube.com/arianespace/live
and the launch window opens in 2 minutes :(
@TildalWave This one loads for me.
The other two say offline.
@duzzy I get Error loading skin: Crossdomain loading denied
which is a server-side config error
you're actually getting live video?
Yes
It's launching right now.
I'm now getting just audio
The feed is really not very good.
They've already gone to the cg animation
back to live video
05:22
OK it works in Chrome, but I had to reload it like a dozen times
Strange.
You should write a letter.
Choose "R". I think it's underrated as a letter.
oh I know what it is, but I'm not gonna tell them the same thing AGAIN
lol
The booster seems to have separated, but it was still firing.
Why do they do that?
it works, kinda, in HTML5 but the fallback to Flash is misconfigured server-side in crossdomain.xml file
Ah, you'd think a company such as them would be capable of a bit of coding.
05:26
@duzzy that's maybe 2-3 seconds before thrust drop and residual burn, they do that to clear SRBs from the main stage
I think it's exactly 2 seconds ... IIRC
Ah wow.
Makes sense, though.
It just seemed like it could go very badly.
@duzzy it's not even coding per se, they're just supposed to list domains in a simple XML file
ah lol
literally just:
 <?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE cross-domain-policy SYSTEM "http://www.macromedia.com/xml/dtds/cross-domain-policy.dtd">
<cross-domain-policy>
<allow-access-from domain="arianespace.com" />
</cross-domain-policy>
copy/paste this into a text file, rename it to crossdomain.xml and publish in your web root
Seems simple enough.
Even I could do that.
05:31
yes, I'm eventually gonna drop a note to Stéphane Israël but he'll be too busy now
lol you know a bunch of people.
I don't really know him but I know he actually runs the place there and will look into it, not just dismiss an email as not my problem
Ah, good. Those are valuable people.
oh geez now I'm getting that same error in Chrome too, looks like someone is fiddling with it right now ... what a moment to pick LOL
lol strange timing.
Maybe they got a bunch of complaints.
It's still working for me, though.
05:35
yeah you didn't refresh, I had to because the stream was dropping
Ah
Well I probably should leave it alone, then. :P
which is what happens when thousands of people sit on their F5 key :)
I never use F5.
I'm a ctrl+r guy.
I'm a ctrl+F5 guy :P
That's a long reach with one hand.
ctrl+r is easier. :P
05:38
oh when I ctrl+F5 I use my teeth and elbows anyway :)
You have a strange style, T.
Never change.
Be you.
:P
yarp :)
lol
 
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13:37
Zoom in on this picture, at the big thing under the tarp you can see the grid fin on the bottom right. I did not realize how BIG the grid fins were! That is person size! Makes sense, but scale is often hard.
13:50
Hmm, 7Meg image, may be too big. URL is: forum.nasaspaceflight.com/…
Panoramic image of OCISLY back in Jaxport. Wreakage aboard.
 
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14:53
@geoffc gee, i wish they didn't have that tarp over that big chunk there
Zoom in, you can see it is the upperstage. That image is super hi res.
HEre is a good set of images of OCISLY in port from a distance.
Did you see the hole in the previous image I posted? They clearly are testing their anti-drone-ship system hard this time.
But that ship is hard to sink!
yes, i did see it, in fact i wondered if the the huge chunk had been embedded in it
The theory is it hit like a lawn dart at high speed. That is the hole the engine block/octaweb made.
upper stage? i thought that part is gone after launch
Interstage. Sorry.
14:56
ah yes, you said so yesterday :P
You can see a grid fin sticking out, which is kind of cool, considering how BIG they are in real life.
They look so small on a tall rocket, but they are quite large!
i've had trouble sorting it out. i see a fin, but without a grid part, i think...
i thought the griddy looking thing above the worker might be a grid fin. clearly this is not my area
other side. look to the right side of the tarp.
Looks like a waffle once you start to see it.
So funny. On this new keyboard, Print screen has its own button. I was used to Fn-PrtScreen. That it turns out, is the Wireless off key. Ooops. Turned off my networking till I figured that out.
See it now?
15:15
behind the ladder?
Yep,
yes, that is quite large
i have a 10 year old keyboard tucked under my desk for emergencies
because my wireless doesn't have a SysRq key
and i have the fob for the wireless plugged into a usb extension cord, so that it sits under my monitor a few inches from the keyboard
because otherwise radio interference messes with it regularly and its batteries keep running down.
@DavidFreitag figured that one out for me
I don't even know what the SystRq key is even supposed to be used for...
For that matter, I've never used the Pause or Break key, and Scroll Lock only rarely...
The magic SysRq key is a key combination understood by the Linux kernel, which allows the user to perform various low-level commands regardless of the system's state. It is often used to recover from freezes, or to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem. Its effect is similar to the computer's hardware reset button (or power switch) but with many more options and much more control. This key combination provides access to powerful features for software development and disaster recovery. In this sense, it can be considered a form of escape sequence. Principal among the offered commands...
when it's magic, that says something
Interesting...
15:28
of course, i don't know why it actually exists...
> System request (often abbreviated SysRq or Sys Req) is a key on keyboards for PCs that has no standard use.[1]
System request (often abbreviated SysRq or Sys Req) is a key on keyboards for PCs that has no standard use. == History == Introduced by IBM with the PC/AT, it was intended to be available as a special key to directly invoke low-level operating system functions with no possibility of conflicting with any existing software. A special BIOS routine — software interrupt 0x15, subfunction 0x85 — was added to signal the OS when SysRq was pushed or released. Unlike most keys, when it is pressed nothing is stored in the keyboard buffer. The specific low level function that the SysRq key was meant for was...
huh, so it's actually doing what it was designed to do.
It seems like it.
15:51
I've used Pause before. It's helpful.
16:42
@Hohmannfan maybe you could define 'feasibility limit' in your answer to the 'biggest earth' question?
because there is no theoretical limit, and i'm concerned the OP isn't taking my word for that.
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A: How much bigger could earth be, before rockets would't work?

HohmannfanFirst, let us look at the rocket equation: $$\Delta v=\ln \left(\frac{m_0}{m_f}\right)v_e$$ That tells how much a rocket can change its velocity. The requirements for a low orbit would increase on your heavier Earth. (For constant density it is proportional to the radius.) How can we increase ...

17:12
@Hohmannfan i just mean in the sense of saying that you did a calculation of what is feasible, not what is possible given enough money and time.
if you want... for clarity for the OP in particular...
 
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19:27
@kimholder Sorry that I did not respond, back now and ready to fix things
19:47
@Hohmannfan no prob. Actually, now that i read the whole thing more closely, you are fairly clear on that point, just not in the same words.
I am still not satisfied about what my answer looks like, but it is good enough I think.
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A: Is this a correct understanding of Tsiolkovsky's rocket equation?

uhohYour question is about the behavior of the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation itself, in the limit of very small final mass (dry mass). Roughly: "is there any limit to delta-v in theory?" Using Mathjax: $$ \Delta v=v_e ln\frac{m_0}{m_f}. $$ If you just look at the velocity ratio and the mass ratio: $$...

they referenced that answer when the were talking to me, which has a couple of graphs that make the extreme difficulty beyond a certain point clear
i guess those graphs would look about the same in this case
oh hey, and you put in what i asked too. i hadn't checked...
the graphs were just an interesting visualization for me
20:14
When a bottle of soda is shaken up, why do all the bubbles try to escape when the lid is opened?
Before the lid is opened, they're still in the soda.
 
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23:30
@duzzy pressure change. with the drop in pressure, the dissolved carbon dioxide in the solution turns to bubbles.
23:54
but why?
oh... re: when it does that so much more because you shook the can... hm...

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