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duzzy

00:41

One of the Apollo astronauts died.

TildalWave

00:58

yes, Ed Mitchell :(

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PearsonArtPhoto

02:41

@TildalWave The article is really interesting actually.

11 hours later…

Hohmannfan

13:24

Hey, what is happening? @TildalWave seems to miss a blue diamond.

Hohmannfan

13:38

ohh.

2 hours later…

TildalWave

15:19

A: Are the Earth's Lagrange points big enough to park multiple satelites/space vessels

Wikipedia tells us that the Sun-Earth L1 has 4 spacecraft, with a fifth one on its way.

is this the quality of answers I should expect around here?

Hohmannfan

Nope

kim holder

15:46

@TildalWave apparently your expectations are no longer our concern :]

Hohmannfan

@kimholder Now I am only waiting for you to use the last type of brackets in your smiley :>

kim holder

see, to me that's a bird. eyes and beak.

Hohmannfan

:) :] :} :>

TildalWave

16:28

@kimholder any more than yours :P

kim holder

oh, i like the sound of that :]]

@Hohmannfan how about < : |

dunce cap :}

TildalWave

yeah, no more scary Tildal by position, only by virtue from now on :P

kim holder

and attitude...

by virtue of attitude

Hohmannfan

placeholder as it did not render

kim holder

mmmm simplicity itself

Hohmannfan

16:36

I have not yet understood why Tildal is not a mod anymore

kim holder

he doesn't want to seems to be the crux of the matter

TildalWave

not really the crux of it, but an inevitable outcome

Hohmannfan

So are there moderator elections approaching?

TildalWave

betas don't have elections

Hohmannfan

only dictators then?

kim holder

16:40

appointed dictators

TildalWave

that's not a very nice way of putting it if one of you two will replace me :P

but yes LOL

Hohmannfan

replace you? LOL

TildalWave

my former position

succeed ...

take over ...

Hohmannfan

I know, I just thought of all the work you have invested in the site

TildalWave

it's still there

Hohmannfan

16:43

Yes, and you are not dead yet. (presumably)

TildalWave

you don't actually think that there's some useful privileges by being a mod do you?

kim holder

@TildalWave but nobody is going to accumulate that kind of record soon

short of Pearson, who is a mod already

Hohmannfan

@TildalWave I think I have the access to view low quality shit even faster

TildalWave

@Hohmannfan being a mod just means you're expected to deal with it before others have to, there's no glory to it, trust me

it also puts you in a receiving position for lots of it

Hohmannfan

It also takes a lot of time from RealLifeTheGame?

TildalWave

16:51

sure does

duzzy

17:08

@TildalWave Your comment on that actually answered something I wasn't sure about. :P

TildalWave

check these questions

duzzy

Oh cool. Thank you.

TildalWave

not the best answer to the second one, but still useful ... there's more to it, let me know if you need some papers on the subject

duzzy

17:52

David Hammens answer seems really interesting, but I'm not sure I'm smart enough for all of it. :P

It seems kind of weird that he only has +1 for it, though.

TildalWave

+2/-1

that -1 seems a bit hostile

duzzy

Yeah, that other guy kind of jumped on him pretty hard.

TildalWave

I think that was the point when I accepted his answer LOL

duzzy

lol

TildalWave

he could have posted another answer, instead he chose to bicker in the comments... that left me as OP with no choice

duzzy

17:57

Yeah, makes sense.

I don't often see conflicting answers here.

but arguments in comments do happen. :P

TildalWave

yes, and they're really annoying

duzzy

When they're constructive they make sense

TildalWave

looks e.g. at the comments here

Q: Are the Earth's Lagrange points big enough to park multiple satelites/space vessels

I know that we already have satellites in position at our Lagrange points, but what if we want to use them to park spacecraft sections for assembly reasons, or possibly even a meteorite for mining. Are the points big enough to have multiple objects stationed there without causing collisions? Do...

duzzy

but more often than not, they end up confusing me.

TildalWave

I gave up in that case, now that I can LOL

Actually it's fine to ask about all five of Earth's Lagrange points - it would make for a more informative question and answer in the long run, which is one of the, and probably the main mission of Stackexchange. Much better than asking five identical questions about each point separately. — uhoh 17 hours ago

I was tempted to comment on this, but again, I don't have to :P

I think the answer it got proves it wrong well enough

And I'm not writing an answer for all 5 (or 10), and would want even less to write a reply in a general sense, because there wouldn't be any end of bickering over details in the comments then

duzzy

18:04

Ah, yeah. Good point.

TildalWave

And if OP wants to discuss EML2 specifically, then it's probably a dupe

duzzy

and this one ended up with an answer shorter than most of the comments. :P

TildalWave

not to mention that I already linked to another Wiki page that serves exactly that purpose to list all the objects in Lagrange points

duzzy

lol

So... I guess that whole thing is a bit of a mess.

TildalWave

yes

I wouldn't even bring it up here but a +3 on that answer was a shocker

duzzy

18:08

lol I thought it was just 0... but now I just clicked the 0.

Hohmannfan

Is EML1,2,3 etc. For the Earth-Moon system or SEL for Sun-Earth, or SML1 for Sun-Mars a naming convention, or was it popularized by Hollister David?

TildalWave

it's a convention, (P)rimary + (S)econdary + L[1-5]

duzzy

How would you differentiate between Sun-Mars and Sun-Mercury? Ahhh!! Chaos!

Hohmannfan

@duzzy Is not the orbit of Mercury really too eccentric?

duzzy

I have no idea. :P

I don't understand the math stuff well enough to know much about these L-points.

TildalWave

18:14

@duzzy Me for Mercury :P

or, better yet, Hg :))

(joking)

Hohmannfan

Funding failed for the SMeL1-1337 probe

duzzy

lol clever.

@Hohmannfan lol

Hohmannfan

Not that it is going to be a problem ever, but you can probably solve it using the Greek godname Hermes instead. SHL

duzzy

Not Hermodr?

Hohmannfan

Seems to have the same role, even the same name

(messenger)

TildalWave

18:20

duzzy

Yes, but Hermodr is one of the most important figures in probably my favorite story from all mythology.

TildalWave

it's not that bad, there are worse places (that's for L2 halo orbits)

Hohmannfan

@duzzy Oh, you like that Balder story?

duzzy

@Hohmannfan YES!

@TildalWave Which ones are worse?

Are big numbers good or bad? :P

TildalWave

@duzzy bad, that's perturbations magnitude

duzzy

18:24

So, Venus wouldn't be good?

Why would it be bad for Venus?

TildalWave

none are really terribly bad actually

here dept.aoe.vt.edu/~cdhall/courses/aoe4065/OtherPubs/SPECS/… it's a collection of papers on L2's

duzzy

Oh nice. That should keep me busy for a while.

TildalWave

also of interest, if someone wants to go through it and add an answer to that EML2 stationkeeping q of mine researchgate.net/profile/Gerard_Gomez2/publication/…

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