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kim holder

01:14

I just got in from dinner man its been a long day

I only pick David Dunlop Brain today he's a guy who got me here so I kind of had to

now I know the drill I can be online through the day tomorrow

@TildalWave I don't see that in the blur of notes I have

the poster session is tomorrow that's what I should have the most chance to talk to people directly

TildalWave

@kimholder I left a comment there, it was just a couple of slides when that lunar volatiles site was mentioned

the one that's for the next couple of days still password protected (pass: lunar)

kim holder

it was all volatiles

TildalWave

yeah wait I'd have to check the program to see who mentioned it

kim holder

My hotel WiFi is crappy right now

Peak usage I guess

I paid for extra bandwidth but I am getting a trickle

TildalWave

not sure either Robinson or Plescia, I think Robinson

kim holder

01:26

Well if I have an excuse to ask him a question that works for me

TildalWave

hmmm wait maybe it was Gruener

oh gee dunno

anyway this is the document hou.usra.edu/meetings/leag2014/presentations/carpenter.pdf

kim holder

I think I want to try and accost Jim Keravala tomorrow. I watched the opportunity slip away today because I was talking to somebody else

TildalWave

ah yes file name says Carpenter so it was Gruener J. E. et al. on International Coordination of Lunar Polar Volatiles Exploration

kim holder

okay he chatted briefly today with Dave well I was there so I have a bit of an in with him

boobies it looks like the audio recordings I did today all worked out

TildalWave

yeah I think you'll want James D. Carpenter of ESA for that, it's his slides and they really hurried through that during the LEAG ones, I was like wooot I couldn't even take a printscreen LOL

kim holder

01:32

groovy not boobies

TildalWave

it looks like most of the goodies on slides are in cooperation with Russkies and maybe that isn't all that certain now

@kimholder hahaha didn't even see it

sorry but I gotta star that :))

your android is a bit of a perv isn't it? LOL

kim holder

but of course

okay today I tested the waters

TildalWave

So you had a good time? It looked relaxed enough, I saw the final slide :P

kim holder

thet seem very approachable its just I know so little compared to everyone else

TildalWave

kim holder

01:37

I wanted to ask why nobody was thinking about getting liquid oxygen From regolith

TildalWave

well isn't the main volatiles session actually tomorrow?

kim holder

but I was to shY they. Seem so dead set that the only thing to do was to get water from the poles

is it you see I don't even know anymore

TildalWave

but if you have water you have oxygen

kim holder

but the water isn't really so easy to get at as they seem to all claim

and anyhow where are the aternative proposals

the thing is I just can't stand up and say why don't you do this instead

TildalWave

agreed and it's really unclear how much of it is there, those Chandrayaan maps could be basically just topmost layer and nearly none of it there

plus, why is everyone forgetting about the possibility of deep embedded pockets of ice?

kim holder

01:41

I'm trying to decide how best to approach this

TildalWave

I mean, the Moon could as well have karst-like features beneath its surface with big pockets of ice inside melt bubbles

kim holder

I think I need to get there much earlier tomorrow

I want to check in with somebody near the top about what questions I can ask

TildalWave

if you're not sure I can ask them for you then

kim holder

no that doesn't seem like a good approach

I want to get into what I really want to know I just want to do it in a way where I'm not different speckled anybody's time

disrespectful of anybody's time

TildalWave

I was thinking how melt bubbles could trap volatiles ... so basically you have these big pockets of basically nothing that was filled with volatiles as the melt slowly cooled down, and small surface gravity means those bubbles would hold, they wouldn't be "in a hurry" to escape up

so any volatiles would basically evaporate and then condense on the ceiling,... and this for quite some time

... karst on the moon

If they're not going anywhere inside meteorites that hit the Earth then why would they escape there? For all we know deep lunar rock could be wet

especially since we now know how much wetter the Earth is deep below than any previous estimates

@kimholder different speckled :))

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kim holder

02:16

Just on the phone with hubby

tomorrow is the poster session at the end of the day

that's when I give away the t-shirts and all the other stuff

guys I'm really going to try and be online and be in touch with the pod bay all day tomorrow

but you have space jokes and want pass along go ahead

TildalWave

in The DMZ, 5 hours ago, by Rоry McCune

Eddie Izzard- Death Star Canteen

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slightly NSFW :)

kim holder

basalt product samples ooooo

and voice recognition actually knew the word for salt

ok wEll even once impresses me

TildalWave

hey nice

what's on those sticks?

looks like ninja leftovers :))

kim holder

02:31

They're basalt rebar

TildalWave

oh nice, how heavy are they?

kim holder

pretty lights and they clink like glass

TildalWave

yeah I just checked and apparently it's 89% lighter than steel

kim holder

well there you go

I'm going to need a table tomorrow

I got the basalt stuf. And all the stack exchange stuff

TildalWave

and moonwards

kim holder

02:40

I gave it a business card today the guy said where is your name

I said what you don't need my name

TildalWave

Yeah did you check if they can provide you with a table there? Otherwise I'd try to find a big cardboard box and some table cloth

kim holder

then I took it and wrote it on the back

I got together early tomorrow anyhow I'll check into it

kim holder

03:14

they said they didn't record that talks today but they could they already have the streaming service they just have to press record

send the techie said but its going to be a pretty big file I said if you can just do it we can make sure it gets online and I invoked SX

so I need to ask clive tomorrow

by the way the guy I gave my business card to was Larry Turner

and now I'm reading his excellent article on 20 different ways to extract oxygen on the moon

I can't seem to copy the address on my tablet

but it comes up first if you google lunar oxygen production

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