The Pod Bay

Everyone

18:00

Welcome anytime. Mind you, I'm in the minority of those who understand English in these parts. How're you with indic languages?

@TildalWave: space.stackexchange.com/a/2420/288 The answer appears incomplete but the author of the answer is the top-man in that company Avanti. Be difficult for him to reveal business secrets/figures I guess.

@RhysW you are from the isles, aren't you?

RhysW

@Everyone From England itself

Everyone

Just making sure (+: I forget far too much these days

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the Industrial Revolution begin in England?

Perhaps I ought to make it "What use are astronaut legs in ISS" ...

thinks

RhysW

18:24

@Everyone "Why must astronauts have full use of their legs to go to the ISS?"

ManishEarth

@RhysW Because going to the toilet becomes more of an engineering problem than it already is

RhysW

@ManishEarth I'm sure they could easily change the strapping mechanism to account for that

called2voyage

My current desktop is the shot of the total path Curiosity has taken so far.

ManishEarth

@RhysW That would be a bit hard.

called2voyage

Oops, that comment was meant for the Observatory but is relevant here

ManishEarth

18:36

@Everyone Yes. Then the Americans smuggled it over and made it better

RhysW

not really, I can think of one right now that i'm pretty sure would work, imagine 'roller coaster' and you come close to my harness idea

ManishEarth

We should just merge the two rooms and be done with it

called2voyage

lol

RhysW

more confusing when the same people are in both of them!

called2voyage

yes

ManishEarth

18:36

@RhysW I know, I know. But they don't have the facilities currently

RhysW

I was even more confused earlier when both of the newest questions were by c2v and about venus, drove me crazy! :P

called2voyage

Ha ha

ManishEarth

@RhysW LIGO?

called2voyage

I'm having a little bit of a Venus day.

RhysW

@ManishEarth I'm inclined to disagree, but short of each of us building it and sohwing it to eachother i think we will have a hard time getting a constructive end out of this! :P

@ManishEarth unfortunately outside of my knowledge, just something i noticed in passing, yet to read the entire article

ManishEarth

18:38

@RhysW I'm saying that the ISS doesn't have this currently, and it's expensive to send it up

RhysW

@ManishEarth oh of course, though the ISS is soon to be replaced, atleast, i hear it is being scuttled soon

ManishEarth

@RhysW There's a post on SETI I wrote 5-6 years ago in Google Docs, which I later published on my blog. No claims on accuracy (blame 13-year-old me), but it talks about the various ways one can send signals

@RhysW I remember watching Mir getting scuttled

At the time I was like "you build a space station and then just let it burn up?"

RhysW

haha yeah a lot of people have that reaction about the ISS being scuttled

as it is only recently finished

ManishEarth

yep

called2voyage

I'm fairly sure a lot more of the ISS will be reused than Mir.

RhysW

18:43

I'm glad i managed to join space and astronomy, i've learnt far more than I otherwise would have and its given me a fantastic new hobby

ManishEarth

@called2voyage NOOOO IT MUST BUUURRRRNNN

2

called2voyage

They've given me an outlet for what has long been a primary fascination of mine.

RhysW

@called2voyage definately, if we can make a handful of other people feel the same way then I will consider us a success

ManishEarth

arggh da speling

RhysW

... is that at my expense?

called2voyage

18:46

definately >> definitely

ManishEarth

^ dat be correctamundo

Don't worry, I make the same mistake often, but I correct it. My spelling isn't so great when writing/typing; my English comes from reading so I can recognize bad spelling but I can't automatically write with the proper spelling.

RhysW

i normally correct it but its force of habit

Everyone

@RhysW I tried to make the title for that question attractive )+:

sorry, nodding off here

RhysW

@Everyone haha i tend to steer towards 'easily searchable' over humorous or attractive, more potential to be found

Everyone

@RhysW Hm. "Are the physical requirements demanding full mobility in astronauts outdated?"

no..too broad

RhysW

18:55

that's probably even less likely to be searched!

Everyone

aye

your coice of words begins to look more and more attractive

RhysW

I spent far too much time on the workplace refining titles to be easier to find

Everyone

workplace?

you work at SE?

RhysW

Nope, workplace.stackexchange.com site about work related questions!

ManishEarth

Everyone

19:00

Oh no ... headbang

RhysW

my 'main' site, hmm my originating site is probably more accurate

ManishEarth

I get to mod my main site :>

Everyone

I'll leave the title as is for another day, before making the change. That should let me get to bed tonight

RhysW

@Everyone Certainly adviseable

@ManishEarth There is every chance this one (astro) will become my main site (rep wise) as i'll understandably be spending lots more time there

Everyone

waiting, or catching some down-time?

RhysW

19:04

catching some down time, come back fresh tomorrow with lots of new questions and answers!

Everyone

No answers from this one |+: I only have millions of inane questions

RhysW

mine is sat unanswered too

Everyone

The one about Mars?

RhysW

The one about ISS communication loss procedure

TildalWave

@Everyone If he's unable to disclose what products they have available then that question isn't for him LOL

Everyone

19:08

@RhysW FWIW it's a good question. Perhaps if we badger @TildalWave enough, he'll use his influence at ESA to get one of the nauts to reply (+:

TildalWave

the question is explicitly asking for commercially available sat-to-sat tracking and communication relays

RhysW

ha! Like i need an excuse to badger @TildalWave ;)

Everyone

@TildalWave Won't you? Eh? Eh?

RhysW

unfortunately for him he has to work closely with me thanks to our site overlap, he will never have any peace!

TildalWave

that's not really in the domain of astronauts

Everyone

19:10

@TildalWave sat/sat links? the question from RhysW, or the answer from Bestwick?

TildalWave

To quote private first class J. Vasquez from Aliens: "Look, man. I only need to know one thing: where they are."

Everyone

Rihgt I'm beginning to get horribly confused keeping the questions straight now

RhysW

haha definitely time for some sleep!

Everyone

'nini

TildalWave

@Everyone the latter on a questiony from @Chris

RhysW

19:13

questiony sounds so innocent

TildalWave

LOL typo

I''m gonna leave it

some errorses are cute

JohnB

my mom always told me that I was the cutest error, dunno what that means!

TildalWave

hehe hey @JohnB long time no see

RhysW

@JohnB :D at least she was friendly about it!

and yes, hello John!

JohnB

hey hey

ManishEarth

19:19

Yay @John

itsallblueeeee

JohnB

RhysW is blue!

congrats!

astronomy?

ManishEarth

@JohnB or space. same thing. I forget.

hides from spastro mods

RhysW

@JohnB :D indeed! yup astronomy, and thanks!

JohnB

well they're just handing out diamonds to anyone these days, aren't they

RhysW

that was pretty close to my reaction to it too

my first was 'um, did they send this email to the right person?'

TildalWave

19:26

@ManishEarth You're like my cat... hides so she can't see us and thinks we can't see her either LOL

JohnB

they picked 3 people without any experience! DON'T SCREW THE SITE UP!!!

ManishEarth

@TildalWave There's a quote from a really nice old Marathi song that's relevant here. I'll try to translate

TildalWave

they have our support ... that's what's really worrying :P

@RhysW I guess if you did then they did

ManishEarth

> The tribe of cats drinks milk with its eyes closed; the thieving cat is afraid of being seen by the moon

RhysW

i did in fact corner Jon in a private chat room to be sure

ManishEarth

19:29

Extremely bad translation; most of the words in the song have no English equivalent.

TildalWave

@ManishEarth Ha nice! They really drink water with their eyes closed? I didn't notice that...

ManishEarth

@TildalWave yeah

called2voyage

@JohnB No SE mod experience maybe

TildalWave

@ManishEarth It translates nicely back to my language

RhysW

@JohnB I promise nothing

ManishEarth

19:30

Actually the song says "milk". The one word that can be translated properly, and that I screw up :P

@TildalWave ah :)

RhysW

I was surprised that three new mods were chosen for a difficult site, in that it was closed once before

called2voyage

Maybe they were looking for fresh blood

TildalWave

@ManishEarth it's OK I guess the point is in drinking ... not drinking what, as long as it reflects the moonshine

called2voyage

a fresh perspective

TildalWave

I can't type today neither

Monday ... hiss ... spit

called2voyage

19:31

W'ere all haveing trouble today with the keys

And so I shall leave that as is. :P

ManishEarth

@TildalWave I found a full translation of the song here. I don't agree with the way they've translated parts, but that's just me. Maybe the entire thing translates well?

RhysW

at least it covers up my typing failures

called2voyage

definately ;)

@ManishEarth Misspelling intentional

RhysW

oooh is that sass i detect!

ManishEarth

haha

RhysW

19:33

it's going to be a looooong pro-tem period at this rate :P

called2voyage

Friendly sass is my favorite kind of internet humor.

TildalWave

@ManishEarth Looks good to me... OK perhaps not in English but I get the gist of it. Have you noticed one other thing with cats, they walk as if they know someone is watching them? All proud :)

RhysW

indeed, sarcasm is always hard to convey

ManishEarth

@TildalWave hmm yeah

RhysW

@TildalWave do cats have a perception of pride?

ManishEarth

19:35

@RhysW use </sarcasm> tags

RhysW

@ManishEarth that's like saying the punchline before the joke!

TildalWave

@RhysW Pride is maybe a bit too strong word for it ... maybe style would be better ... they are total posers LOL

called2voyage

@RhysW Just add "sarcasm" to the end, if necessary.

ManishEarth

Someone, somewhere (probably the w3c) is furiously typing <sarcasm> to combat the Internet's extreme indifference in using a closing tag without opening it

RhysW

bah, humor is my only tool! without that I am nothing!

ManishEarth

19:36

@RhysW Not at the beginning. Only at the end

Like this: Rhys is very smart </sarcasm>

called2voyage

ah yes, I forgot about the unopened close tag

RhysW

@ManishEarth facepalm a long pro-tem period indeed!

called2voyage

almost as bad as using the hashtag on facebook

ManishEarth

<(obligatory xkcd>

RhysW

oh those people really annoy me, my cousin is one of them

thankfully we don't share a last name so i have plausably deniability

called2voyage

19:38

My coworkers across the way today were talking about how they are old and don't know how to use hashtags.

And I was thinking, "Who does?"

RhysW

not me! #truth

called2voyage

#Let's #notforget #aboutthosepeople #whouse #hashtags #forevery #word.

RhysW

the worst are the ones who say a full sentence then put every word again into that sentence!

called2voyage

Yes!

RhysW

the way I complain makes me sound a lot older than I really am... far to cynical for my age!

called2voyage

19:42

#Letsnotforgetabouthosepeoplewhousehashtagsforeveryword

@RhysW Or maybe just informed?

RhysW

Speaking to my mum, apparently when I was younger I used to come home from 7 hours of school and immediately ask to do more math and science, much to the disdain of my neighbor who wanted nothing more than to run around drawing on everything with chalk

i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7845536256/hBE6B1F72

this should be our mantra!

Rory Alsop

@RhysW It's the best way. Apparently I persuaded my teachers to give me extra maths and latin in their free time

RhysW

@RoryAlsop :D i was ironically always in trouble, not a day went by where I wasn't sent to the principal

I finished my work, begged for more, got none, got bored, started talking, got sent to principle for being disruptive

Rory Alsop

@RhysW luckily I had awesome teachers who really enjoyed their job

In a couple of classes I was the only pupil :-P

RhysW

@RoryAlsop it took me years to get teachers who liked their jobs, then they all left at once, its actually the reason why I dropped out of college

TildalWave

20:01

@RoryAlsop a class of your own huh?

Undo

Eeek! You guys are within 10 messages of the whole first page being completely blue. I have come to foil you.

RhysW

@Undo hey :D was wondering where you got to

Undo

<foils plan by posting message>

called2voyage

@Undo Hi!

We've missed you all day.

Undo

I've been in an Internet desert all day.

RhysW

20:04

We have indeed, on astro that is :P

Undo

So I see that c2v has decided on our topic-of-the-weeks :)

called2voyage

:)

Undo

(For Astro)

TildalWave

@Undo ours? wrong chat :P

RhysW

@Undo Mods discussed and came to a joint decision, given that the meteor shower is happening last week it seems like perfect time to have those tags! that thing i was talking about previously about making them line up with the events coming into play

@TildalWave we are taking over, this is ours too now ;)

TildalWave

20:08

I'm fine with that

Undo

We own it.

called2voyage

@TildalWave Manish already made the decision that we're merging Observatory and Pod Bay

Undo

@called Wha?

RhysW

Podservatory

called2voyage

It was a joke.

Undo

20:08

Oh, good.

called2voyage

lol

I scared you for a second, huh?

Undo

Broken posts aren't too enough, he needs to merge chatrooms too.

RhysW

I suppose its hard not to take our jokes seriously when we are blue!

Undo

@Rhys Well, you do define perfection now.

called2voyage

I believe that Manish would say that's the fun in it.

RhysW

20:10

@called2voyage @ManishEarth says lots of things, the trouble is getting him to stop saying things at all

</Irony>

TildalWave

Undo

Lol

called2voyage

#ManishEarthIstheBoss

TildalWave

that's what food Manish was raised on

Undo

Oh no - not the hashtag thing, not here.

called2voyage

20:11

lol

it's a joke

as well

RhysW

@called2voyage haha, he has pretty much taken new space and astro mods under his wing

called2voyage

you might want to read the transcript

Undo

@called You know that you lost the privilege to joke as soon as you got your diamond, right?

called2voyage

@Undo In Soviet Russia, mod joke you.

TildalWave

the other way around :P

called2voyage

20:12

Jokes mod you?

TildalWave

yup

Undo

Hey! I just noticed that I can ignore mods! Neato!

called2voyage

Not that ignoring mods does you a lot of good.

Undo

<hides>

called2voyage

</hides>

RhysW

20:13

@called2voyage This sounded very daunting!

Undo

Uhh oh.

called2voyage

@Undo So are you going to participate in our Astro TOTW?

Undo

@called Possibly. Why?

RhysW

@Undo because we like your enthusiasm and contributions of course!

Undo

Lol

You guys realize I have no prior experience in this stuff, right?

RhysW

20:15

No sarcasm! not that time!

@Undo join the club

called2voyage

@Undo Experience, you mean like our prior experience as SE mods?

Undo

I kind of committed to Space to see how betas work - and it's been amazing where it's led me.

I Google like crazy if I want rep.

RhysW

@Undo got three magazine subscriptions to cover space and astro since joining so I can stay up to speed!

Undo

Lol

So, @RhysW, what's the scariest button you have access to?

called2voyage

The Undo button.

;)

You had to see that one coming!

Undo

20:18

Yes, yes :)

TildalWave

I can't type!!

3

Undo

Good to know.

called2voyage

that's a logical contradiction

RhysW

@Undo anything that says 'delete'

Undo

@Rhys What's the scariest delete button?

called2voyage

20:20

@RhysW or the "BURNINATE ALL USERS" button

TildalWave

I tried searching for some info on the Sokol space suit ... it took me like 5 times to rewrite my search condition

And words fail me too today ... bloody Mondays

what's it called when high gee suits like the ones on fighter jets pressurise lower torso so the pilots don't fall unconscious?

Undo

Pressure suits?

Flight pants?

TildalWave

well that's too ambigous

too many irrelevant results

some rather funny

Undo

Anyway, got to go. Bye folks!

RhysW

@Undo Ooh I wouldn't even want to check! for fear of misclicking

@Undo cya undo!

Undo

20:23

dons sombrero and walk out door

called2voyage

@Undo bye

TildalWave

have fun @Undo

@called2voyage hello

I undid bye :P

called2voyage

@TildalWave @Undo @Everyone

TildalWave

and these are "flight pants" LOL

@called2voyage you forgot @CrazyBuddy

called2voyage

No

I was telling you to undo everyone. ;)

RhysW

20:26

anyways i must unfortunately leave you all in peace for now, cya tomorrow!

called2voyage

bye, Rhys! get some rest.

TildalWave

@called2voyage hmmm I'll resist it, if you don't mind

@RhysW take care you too

called2voyage

@TildalWave confirmed he has the power to undo everyone, but resists using it.

Crazy Buddy

Crazy Buddy is summoned :)

How can I be of service?

RhysW

@CrazyBuddy oh geez, who did this!? i specifically said not to cause trouble and you summon crazy buddy!? welp, bye world

Crazy Buddy

20:28

@RhysW Gone??? How dare you??? :D

TildalWave

@CrazyBuddy any way you like, we just thought you might like to join us

Crazy Buddy

@RhysW Phew... He didn't go :)

called2voyage

I told you earlier, mods don't really leave.

RhysW

I am unfortunately leaving you now, I just like to prod you when i get the chance

Crazy Buddy

@TildalWave Of course... I devote my ~~keyboard's~~ soul, flesh & blood to Physics, Space, & Astro ~~chat rooms~~ :D

@RhysW Don't you dare..!!!

TildalWave

20:31

@CrazyBuddy sorry I was just reading Phy.SE newsletter

Crazy Buddy

Stay put

@TildalWave You visit us? :P

TildalWave

@CrazyBuddy Sure, I just never find the time to write something

honest, no bull

I did write one answer but it was migrated here LOL

Crazy Buddy

@TildalWave C'mon... You're writing novels at Astro. Shouldn't be hard here :D

called2voyage

For a second I misread "Astronomy meta" as "Astronomy meat"

Crazy Buddy

@TildalWave Looks like your fate circles within Space & Astro :)

TildalWave

20:36

@CrazyBuddy ah you see when you don't have to do too much research or know the subject well enough to write most of it out of the head and just equip with references, that doesn't take too much time ... what takes a lot of time is thinking how to explain something that isn't an easy concept on its own,... that's what most of Phy is

i.e. Astro and Space are more applied

Crazy Buddy

Meh... I'm sure a good start with references may help you write great answers (as time goes on) ;-)

TildalWave

eventually, I'm sure I'm gonna attempt answering a few questions, sure ... but that "applied science" part is important, because it helps in understanding so you don't have to explain basic concepts first, then move on to what was the question about... and you've prolly noticed by now I know not how to be concise LOL

Crazy Buddy

Hah..!!!

TildalWave

look at my meta answers ... I write 2 pages then @Pearson comes along and answers it better in two paragraphs LOL

Crazy Buddy

Duh... You'll get over with it eventually (but don't stop writing long answers)

@TildalWave I think you will survive in our universe, having known a lot about the rules :P

TildalWave

20:43

Well I like more answering modus operandi type questions so sure, Phy would not be any exception there... neither is Sec.SE.

Crazy Buddy

Oh...

TildalWave

but I'm not as active on SO any more... not because I'd hate it, but there's too many "how do I do that" questions

I always wanna answer "learn how it works, then apply your new knowledge"

Crazy Buddy

It's popular, It gets all the traffic (about a few hundred questions per day), not all are nice though :)

Shh... Someone's here...

Is that you @called2voyage? :P

or @Chris? :D

Chris

maaaaaybe

Crazy Buddy

gotcha :)

TildalWave

20:46

hehe ... crouching tiger hidden dragon

called2voyage

@CrazyBuddy Me?

Chris

procrastinating dragon is more like it

Crazy Buddy

@TildalWave: Caught them both..!!!

called2voyage

@Donald.McLean Is also here.

Crazy Buddy

Oh, you're mod too... Damn..!!!

TildalWave

20:48

@Chris there was an A51 proposal for Procrastination.SE once :)

Crazy Buddy

Why do I always squeeze myself into the godpowers? o_O

Jon Ericson

@TildalWave Dangit! I never got around to commiting to that!

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called2voyage

Looks like "The Omega Point" has stuck for the Astro mod chat room name.

TildalWave

guess what result you get if you search for it now LOL

Chris

@TildalWave haha what a great way to continue procrastinating -- talk about it with fellow procrastinators

Crazy Buddy

20:48

@JonEricson Howdy :)

Jon Ericson

@CrazyBuddy Hi there.

Donald.McLean

I'm not a mod here, I'm just an ordinary committer.

TildalWave

@JonEricson hey Jon ;) I've never even seen it myself, but I hear there was some funny things happening after it was proposed ... I wonder why :D

Crazy Buddy

@Donald.McLean You're still a mod... (even in chat rooms) -- And, you're blue :P

TildalWave

but that search result for "Procrastination" on A51 is utterly funny

Donald.McLean

20:50

What do you mean, I'm blue? Da ba dee, da ba di.

called2voyage

@Donald.McLean It had to be said. lol.

Crazy Buddy

Donald.McLean

Probably too obscure for many, though.

Crazy Buddy

^^^ Everyone's BLUE here :P

TildalWave

@Everyone isn't blue :P

Donald.McLean

20:54

Ahh. I don't show up as blue in my own browser though. I didn't even really notice that some people were blue, or why that was significant.

Crazy Buddy

Blue <=> Mods..!!

TildalWave

@Donald.McLean F5 ;)

Donald.McLean

F5? I don't know what you mean.

TildalWave

called2voyage

Refresh

Donald.McLean

20:56

Ahh, yes. Now I'm blue. Da ba dee, da ba di.

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave now that is funny, as the earlier one was mine, and now I'm a mod on Productivity

@Donald.McLean not obscure at all. I just wish I could get my youngest to stop singing it

Talking of Personal Productivity - all we need is moar questions. Feel like helping a mod out and asking those questions you always needed solved about how to work smarter, faster, more efficiently etc

Crazy Buddy

Hmm... Looks like today's special. I've been surrounded by 8 mods (now, 6) :D

called2voyage

SpaceEx is just a hotbed of mods right now.

Rory Alsop

@called2voyage mods love teh S.Ex.SE teim

2

:-)

called2voyage

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Q: Would it be possible to have a "hottest unanswered" tab on the MultiCollider drop down?

Something that I think would be a valuable tool for the site, and would help get answers to really critical questions, would be to have a "hottest unanswered" tab on the MultiCollider drop down to see all of the really hot questions that haven't been answered yet on the site. I don't see any rea...

Crazy Buddy

21:12

Okay everyone... gtg

C'yall later ;-)

TildalWave

21:33

►

Pretty Joy Division-ish

bordering on early New Order

with a bit of Skids to it

@RoryAlsop might be your cup of tea ^

they have some remakes of The Stooges

TildalWave

22:01

great I'm stuck on YouTube again

Rory Alsop

22:12

@TildalWave interesting. I prefer Devo:

►

TildalWave

LOL "Mongoloid" that's a remake too

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave really?

@TildalWave I thought they wrote it about 20 years ago

yeah - they wrote it in 1977

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop hmmm yes but it's a near identical copy of some song from ex Yugoslav band that had it earlier ... I'll try to find it. It's nothing unusual tho that Punk scene was pretty developed here at the time with some of the bands filling the space on international charts

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave Zvoncekova Bilježnica covered it in 1992

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop hmmm doesn't ring a bell, I'll check

Rory Alsop

22:18

"Mongoloid" has been one of the most frequently covered songs in the Devo catalog:
A 1979 Rhino Records compilation of Devo covers by various local bands, titled Devo-Tees, features three humorous versions of this song recorded by Jupiter, the Deadliners, and the Doguloids.[2]
Lost Kids, a Danish punk band, covered the track in the song Asocial with different lyrics, released on the 1978 EP Født Som Nul and the 1979 compilation Pære punk.[3]
Zvoncekova Bilježnica, a Serbian hardcore/post-punk band covered this song for their 1992 album Inžinjeri ljudskih duša in Serbian language with differ…

TildalWave

Never heard of those really ... that's too late for that scene... IIRC the band's name was Paraf and they're from Rijeka (seaside Croatia)

this was Termiti, what was Paraf dissolved into later on in 1979: youtube.com/watch?v=z-PhMD98uao (the translation would go "Only faitful dog makes it")

actually excellent sound quality for that time, prolly some heavy restoration there

hmmm tough to say actually, not much is still available from that time... there was a lot of influence back and forth for sure so dunno who was "first". Wiki doesn't even mention any tho, so that's not a really good article... doesn't matter the song is good that's what matters :)

great times for music :)

I'm never gonna get out of YouTube am I? :D

TildalWave

22:45

Is there any "three clicks away from Talking Heads" rule on YouTube?

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