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Q: After the money you ..........stolen, you can't buy this car

Mahmoud MansourAfter the money you ..........stolen, you can't buy this car. ( had been - have been - had had been - had has been) after a deep thought through this question .. i found that have been is the right answer .. so why do you think that we can't choose the other answers ? Answer scientifically...

of course i thought through the problem and i think that (had has been) is the correct answer but i really want to know the correct one from different opinions
How about...none of the above. And what is the context? Although I cannot think of any circumstances when I would use any of them. It sounds like some non-native ESL teacher writing questions which have little to do with actual usage.
unfortunately it's one of the above, and there's no any context for it .
yeah that's right .. this question is from ESL teacher and he challenge his students to answer it with a scientifically answer with a translation..
Are they a native-speaker?
No, his native language is Arabic ..
So,linguistically ... is there any answer that incorrect or we could use all of them i'm really confused
He is the best one but i think he want us to try all the sentences to find the answer , but i tried all of them until i got confused and decided to ask the question here hopping that i find a good answer
Can u make a circumstance with a good answer -not one of the choices- and tell me how that sentence would be.
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It sounds better: "Since you have been ROBBED of your money, you can no longer buy (afford) this car." Same idea, just a better verb. Easy mistake, and understandable from a non-native speaker, but unacceptable from a pedantic teacher. i.e. Your money was stolen. YOU were robbed.
xD >> i thank you for this , and i wanna say just one more thing .. if i have an exam and i don't have any other choice and want to choose an answer which one of the sentence.what i would choose ?
It's not about trusting .. but we have a complicated situation in my country specially about education .. and if we have and exam and we didn't choose the answer that it is in the model answer and tell them that none of above is correct .. they will just give me a "ZERO" . So i just want to know if i'm in an exam what should i choose from this ( had been - have been - had had been - had has been).Sorry for that complicated situation
Thank you . Have a good Day . BYE
@Mahmoud Mansour: None of the above options are correct. It seems that the teacher is tracking his poor students to choose a wrong answer as a way of punishment. Or he is lacking knowledge of verb tenses.
It's clear you are a bit desperate for an answer, so maybe I can help a little. You can rule out the last two answers since these are impossible in any context. The first two are grammatically possible if stolen is replaced by given and the sentence is reordered: After you have been given the money, you can buy this car. Maybe your teacher mistakenly thinks that steal works like give: He gave me the money > *He stole me the money.
@Cascabel. That's more than possible. But even with robbed the sentence would have to be reordered for answers 1 or 2 to fit, as you suggested in a previous comment.
@Cascabel Thanks for your sympathy, and of course indoctrination is not the right way to learn anything .. but we are lucky that we can learn from the internet easily and ask anything we want
@Cascabel: lt's not really confusing. As l said before the teacher is tricking his students to make a mistake as a way of punishment. Actually l suffered a lot from those cunning teachers when l was a student.
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@MidoMido i think you know better what actually happens in Egypt. and know that education here is bad like a crap
@Shoe But there's no way to make a true sentence with answers 1 or 2 without reorder or change the sentence right !!
@Mahmoud Mansour: You're right.
@Mahmoud Mansour. Correct. None of the options fits in the sentence as it stands.
@MidoMido Actually, i disagree with you (Specially about my teacher) because he doing his best to teach us correct and he didn't track us to make a mistake as a way of punishment ... he just offered that question to us as challenge to find the right answer..but i agree with you about the educational system in Egypt.
@Cascabel i showed my teacher that conversation and he asked me to put that answer (After the money you had, has been stolen, you cant buy this car!.) and tell him your respond Ty BTW <3
Once again, "It sounds better: "Since you have been ROBBED of your money, you can no longer buy (afford) this car." ... i.e. Your money was stolen. YOU were robbed"
@Cascabel I don't want a better sentence, i'd like to know if it a correct sentence with a correct form and meaning or not?
After + present perfect + future Its a form. After ( the money you had)..sb...has been stolen, you cant buy this car. Its stick to the form?!. Isnt it?
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I am not sure what you mean by "answer with translation". Translation into what? All posts on this site have to be in English. Anyway. As others have said above: none of these are correct. You cannot use any of them. And you cannot learn English from that teacher. This comment thread has reached its limit. Please take any further discussion to our chat. Thank you.
@RegDwigнt i mean answer with explanation, and please can u provide me with that chat ?
@Mahmoud Mansour: The folks have said that the options are all incorrect. There is no easy solution without reordering or changing some words.
@MidoMido I know that there's no easy solution , but i am searching for the difficult one if that possible .. So the question here is why this sentence(After the money you had, has been stolen, you cant buy this car!) is wrong BTW it's a correct form and meaning too !! Right ?
@MahmoudMansour that last one makes sense.
@Mahmoud Mansour: l suggest that you edit your question and add your last construction.
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@MidoMido The choice that Mahmoud mentioned first makes sense by getting rid of extras and building back up again: 'After the money has been stolen, you can't buy this car.' -> 'After the money that you had has been stolen, you can't buy this car.' -> 'After the money you had has been stolen, you can't buy this car.'
@MidoMido i didn't change the question when i edited my topic i just added this (after a deep thought through this question .. i found that have been is the right answer .. so why do you think that we can't choose the other answers ?) to fit the rules of the website ... but no changes happens to the question
@Xanne So, i think this the correct answer and my teacher is right :D
@Mitch i understood it now with that explanation Thank you... please make it as an answer to my question not just a comment
@Mahmoud Mansour: lf l am not mistaken, the version with commas (After the money you had, has been stolen, you can't buy this car) is correct. The commas removed the ambiguity of the construction.
@Cascabel - It's an awkward word problem for sure. Now that the money you had has been stolen, you cannot afford to buy this car. I suppose that makes sense. In any case, the OP would probably have better luck asking future questions on English Language Learners.
I can understand why so many people were deceived into thinking none of the answers is correct: when we see “you ...... stolen”, we expect the answer to be a single verb form which can come together with these two words to form a verbal phrase (subject + verb); you don’t expect that two separate verbs belonging to different subjects should be filled into one slot. The question is sneakily made. However, it is clear, once you get over this, that had has been is the correct answer. The sentence would be more natural with “now that” or “since” instead of “after”, incidentally.
@JanusBahsJacquet Yeah...put that way, it could work. I don't think that is a a fair thing to do to a learner though. Maybe it is a cultural thing, as miso mido has it.
I apologize for saying your teacher is a bad teacher; seems they are just being very sneaky.
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@Cascabel It's okay .. and it was a good discussion .. Thank you

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