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I also dinner-timed.
@tchrist A Briton?
Yes, your construct is not one I can produce.
You use subject case not object case, and it confuses me.
An accent similar to some people’s I know.
Not to some people.
Accents cannot be similar to people for me.
They can for Brits.
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Q: “A similar hat to Jane” vs “A hat similar to Jane’s”

tchristOf late I have noticed British people using the following sort of construct: John and Jane make such a cute couple because John always wears a similar hat to Jane. To my ear, that is ungrammatical, or at least nonsensical, because John seems to have mistaken his wife for a hat! John’s hat ...

Ah, that makes sense.
Sometimes I prefer British style, sometimes I don't.
I am not making a value call, just saying what lies within my own grammar, or what lies outside of it.
 
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@tchrist 3 dead, 130 injured.
ABC news.
@tchrist what now?
Ohh IC
 
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03:52
> At least 130 people are injured and three dead after two bombs exploded near the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday afternoon. The injuries include dismemberment, witnesses said, and local hospitals say they are treating shrapnel wounds, open fractures and limb injuries. An eight-year-old boy is one of the three known dead, multiple news outlets reported, and several of the injured are also children.
Make the world go away.
Meanwhile, I received very slightly sub-horrible news about my friend who died under mysterious and perhaps even suspicious circumstances a week ago yesterday: it is now being seriously investigated. I will say no more here lest that be compromised. But suffice it to say that a single person’s unjust death is as horrible as any distant war, because it touches you personally.
My initial understanding of what happened was wrong, but what actually did occur is far from clear. For now.
04:10
Guys
in English, if getting a plastic surgery on your nose is called "nose job" then is getting a plastic surgery on your hand is called "hand job" ?
@TemporaryNickName No.
A hand job is a sexual act.
then how should it supposed to be called?
Uh, "plastic surgery on his hand"?
> He got plastic surgery done on his hand.
> He got a hand job.
These are two incredibly different things.
Actually, if both are done professionally and the payment is by credit card you can say that a hand job is basically plastic surgery.
Interesting, good to know. Thanks
04:59
@tchrist Teacher: In English, two negatives make a positive, but two positives do not make a negative. Student: Yeah, right.
05:52
Hello
 
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09:35
Google Docs.
 
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10:51
@RegDwighт Ouch.
That reminds me, I'm supposed to fill out my performance review this week.
11:11
You fill out your own reviews?
I'm awesome.
I am awesome.
I'm so very awesome.
I really am.
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Use that as a template.
11:46
hullo
I guess Google's spell checker uses crowd sourcing
Google can't afford real intelligence, so they use the next worst thing.
So I'm reading a user manual of ours, and there's a section "Restrictions on the Analyzed Code". Shouldn't it be "Restrictions of"?
Restrictions to?
No idea, really. Is that your answer?
All three sound equally strange.
11:52
Well, it depends. Is the code restricted by its inadequacies, or have steps been taken to restrict it?
In the latter case, "of" would be appropriate; in the former, "to": my ear tells me so.
No, the manual is for a static code analyzer. It will not take any code, though. The code has to comply to a set of rules.
Described in this section.
I might use for in that context then.
* comply with a set of rules ...
Yeah I know.
I would call those requirements, not restrictions per se ...
Gah, this is getting complicateder and complicateder.
11:58
Complicatedness is all there is.
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Q: What is the diffrence between toss and throw

AfterLifeI want to know What is the diffrence between toss and throw? For example We must toss him out- we must throw him out

Two upvotes for this, and no attempts to edit it into shape.
Gen ref
Gen ref or not, I don't want people to upvote crap.
The up arrow does not mean "this post has lots of typos I could fix but won't".
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wait... it doesn't. oh dear.
@RegDwighт Life here must be very hard for you.
12:09
It's not an amusement park, no.
Either is fine, depending on what you're trying to say. "She was expert in biology." "He was expert on jade figurines." Also consider other prepositions: "He was expert with the sword." "She was expert at backgammon." — Robusto 15 secs ago
I only use "expert between" and "expert instead of".
I am expert against those two uses.
you are the expert amoungst us
I was going to say "within" but I wasn't sure I wanted that
English wourds are like American words only with an extra "u" thrown in to make weight.
12:21
yeah, it's where we hide our fat.
Hide?
sadly, yes
But it's right out there for all to see.
but not all over our bodies
So you have pot-bellied words?
12:23
it just keeps coming out of our pens
Pens?
and keyboaurds, etc.
But nout all ouver ouur boudies
@Robusto We spell that with an extra letter here.
Is this Nigerian spam?
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A: Writing “the class of 2014” in a résumé?

Ejikeme NzekaAs a reflection of the quality of learning offered at UNN, our graduates continue to excel in all national professional examinations in fields of law, medicine, accountancy, etc. Such excellence is often repeated in the diaspora, where our alumni shine bright as postgraduate students, employees o...

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The University of Nigeria, commonly referred to as UNN, is a federal university located in Nsukka, Enugu State, Nigeria. Founded in 1955 and formally opened on 7 October 1960, the University of Nigeria has four campuses – Nsukka, Enugu and Ituku-Ozalla – located in Enugu State and one in Aba, Abia State, Nigeria. The University of Nigeria was the first full-fledged indigenous and first autonomous university in Nigeria, modeled upon the American educational system. It is the first land-grant university in Africa and one of the five elite universities in the country. The university has 1...
Author is “Ejikeme Nzeka”.
12:37
Suka is Russian for bitch or ho.
Well actually only just bitch. In both meanings.
I know sukin sin means son of a bitch, right?
Exactly.
With an [ɨ], though.
So typically transcribed as syn.
So anyway the parallel to English is peculiar. Not many languages use bitch for both bitch and bitch. German uses whore for the one, and nothing for the other.
Which bitch? The perra bitch?
Yeah.
In fact I just checked Wiktionary and apart from the obvious Hündin and Wölfin, it suggests Fähe, a word I have never once seen or heard until now.
Calling someone a bitch and calling her a whore seem like somewhat different things.
But really are not.
12:43
Hurensohn.
Not Fähensohn.
Whatever Fähe even means.
Whoreson then.
I suppose it's some hunter jargon.
@tchrist yep.
There's a funnier variation still, Hurenbock.
Whoreson sounds faintly archaic, or at least, not in common use amongst the illiterati.
Hurenbock would be "whoregoat".
Why is that funnier?
12:44
Commute. Bye.
Oh, using a goat for a whore.
ENOCOMMUTE: I have yet another foot of new snow.
Well technically a whoregoat is not the son of a whore, but one who likes to ride whores indiscriminately.
But in the current usage the line is blurry.
Seemly vaguely Turkish, the insult.
12:46
That one would be donkeyson.
Scottish then? No, those a wethersons.
> Q: What do you call a sheep tied to a lamp post in Cardiff? A: A leisure center.
Cardiff being the capital of Wales.
It’s always hijo de puta, never hijo de perra.
Jez
Jez
what a great name "guinea pig" is
especially as they're not pigs and they're not from guinea
Like "The Federal Reserve".
Or "Political Party"
Or "Grape Nuts".
12:51
I'm pretty sure those are from Guinea.
Who is Grape Nuts anyway? Is that the actress from A View to a Kill?
> Grape-Nuts is a breakfast cereal developed in 1897 by C. W. Post, a patient and later competitor of the 19th-century breakfast food innovator, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg. Despite its name, the cereal contains neither grapes nor nuts; it is actually made from wheat and barley.
It takes forever to chew.
It was given an historical dispensation for violating truth in advertising.
12:53
> Grape Nuts (born 19 May 1948) is a Jamaican singer, actress and model. Nuts started out as a model, regularly appearing at the New York City nightclub Studio 54. Nuts secured a record deal with Island Records in 1977, which resulted in a string of dance-club hits.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 You just have to let it sit in the milk for a spell first.
Golden Grahams don't contain gold or Graham
@tchrist I use very little milk on my cereal. I suppose you're right.
I like to eat while the cereal crunches.
I sometimes use cereal as a crunchy snack straight out of the box.
Using Grape Nuts for that makes them last a really long time.
I like plain Cheerios that way.
And frosted Mini-Wheats.
12:55
> Grape-Nut ice cream is a popular regional dish in the Canadian Maritimes, the Shenandoah Valley, and New England. . . . Different variations of ice cream with Grape Nuts are also called brown bread ice cream.
Never heard of that before.
> At one time, Grape-Nuts was the seventh most popular cold cereal, but sales declined as Post was sold from one company to another. Circa 2005 it held <1% of the market. About this time the formula was changed: The husks from milled grain were ground into the flour so it could be pitched as "whole grain," albeit at the cost of roughening the cereal's texture and detracting significantly from its mouth feel. The addition of vitamins and minerals allowed it to qualify for food-stamp programs.
“Roughening the texture”???? What, more?
> A subsequent ad campaign generated another catchphrase, as Euell Gibbons became the spokesperson for the brand, promoting Grape-Nuts as the "Back to Nature Cereal." The line "Ever eat a pine cone? Many parts are edible" proved to draw increased attention to the product from consumers, as well as from comedians of all sorts.
> Its lightweight and compact nature, nutritional value, and resistance to spoilage made it a popular food for exploration and expedition groups in the 1920s and 1930s. In World War II, Grape-Nuts was included as a component of the lightweight Jungle ration used by some U.S. and Allied Forces in wartime operations before 1944.
Resistant to spoilage the way a bag of rocks is.
WTF? More Nigerian spam!
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A: Reason for the current trend to use «she» as the gender-neutral pronoun?

IDUEHE[University of Nigeria][1] This is a master piece that must be emulated by others so as to enhance life and existence

Now they’re hitting questions with <750 views. So much for the idea that auto-protecting questions with >1k view would help anything.
We’ve seen this sort of spam before: wtf is it about Nigeria, anyway?
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Q: How to denote possession with Bureau of Statistics

lilsterWhen denoting possession with an agency which is the Bureau of Statistics, does one use Bureau's of Statistics or Bureau of Statistics'? E.g. according to the Bureau's of Statistics Consumer Price Index or according to the Bureau of Statistics' Consumer Price Index

Haven't you covered that in some answer of yours, @tchrist
13:02
@RegDwighт Yes, I thought about that.
It’s that the apostrophe-s goes on the whole NP, not just the head noun.
It’s the Queen of England’s crown, not the Queen’s of England crown.
I’ll look.
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A: Possession in Compound Nouns

tchristYou make the noun plural and the entire phrase possessive using the so-called “Saxon genitive”: The queen of England’s favorite food is cake. All queens of England’s favorite food is cake. Compare: The attorney general’s office. All attorneys general’s offices. If that annoys you when you...

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A: "My wife and I's seafood collaboration dinner"

KosmonautShort answer Yes, this argument does have a basis in linguistic fact, which is why some people do it in the first place, but that doesn't mean it must be correct in Standard English (and it isn't). Longer Answer This argument does hold water in the linguistic sense. "My wife and I" is, in fac...

I think you had another one still.
Something with the Queen of England, actually.
looks some more
But I did, above.
> You make the noun plural and the entire phrase possessive using the so-called “Saxon genitive”: The queen of England’s favorite food is cake. All queens of England’s favorite food is cake. Compare: The attorney general’s office. All attorneys general’s offices. If that annoys you when you...
Well yes, I mean the other Queen of England.
Perhaps.
I dunno.
I just think that the answer I had in mind had a different appearance.
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Q: Usage of "of" in genitive

Sandokan Possible Duplicate: “My wife and I’s seafood collaboration dinner” What is the correct way of these two sentences? The queen of England's crown The queen's of England crown Strictly linguistically, sentence 2 should be the correct one, since the crown belongs to the queen and not t...

Ah!
That'd be Neil, then.
13:06
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A: Usage of "of" in genitive

Neil CoffeyIt is a common misconception, partly because of bad use of terminology, that the English 's construction is closely equivalent to a genitive in languages like Latin, German etc with overt case marking. But in reality, 's works quite differently: it can be appended to the whole noun phrase, inclu...

Anyway, that's the perfect dupe.
Perfect as in could be merged? :) Ok, not that perfect.
Well actually I don't see why not.
It's the exact same construction using different nouns.
Well, more work for you, is all.
I can’t figure out the -able/-ible form for merge.
You're from the US. That would be -ible.
13:09
If you can submerge something, is it submersible or submergible?
I think both of those exist.
But I can find neither mergible nor mergeable nor mersible in the free OED online.
Yes, Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator even famously wonders, "Am I not submersiful?"
He’s loaded with buckets of mercy.
I liked River better.
I dunno. Haven't seen much of his, actually.
Joaquin rocks, though.
13:11
He was fey, though: fated to die.
U-Turn, Gladiator, Walk the Line. All fine movies, though in very different respects.
River was in an old movie playing the Mozart Cm Fantasy.
> Phoenix made a transition into more adult-oriented roles with Running on Empty (1988), playing the son of fugitive parents in a well-received performance that earned him a nomination for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor,
That one.
> River Jude Phoenix (August 23, 1970 – October 31, 1993) was an American film actor, musician, and activist. He was the older brother of Rain Phoenix, Joaquin Phoenix, Summer Phoenix and Liberty Phoenix.
What “nominally creative” parents those children have.
Jude didn't make it bad.
No, he made it good.
He took a sad Cm Fantasy and made it better.
13:15
It’s more stormin’drangy than sad.
At least the way he played it.
Tell that to Paul and John.
Stormin'drangy is something John Cleese would say.
bows
 
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@tchrist spam and scams are their biggest GDP.
14:28
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A: Using a comma before "but"

chiomauniversity of nigeria unn and unec has a unique way of teaching student the use of punctuation

humanity--;
panda++;
kitten++;
14:34
Actually I did dog++ two weeks ago
The cart kitten looks like a Japanese cartoon cat.
14:46
purrs
curls up into a ball, naps
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15:02
suddenly feels even sleepier
Hi @Kit. Wake up, wake up!
clangs on pots
Wait, I just got +40 for my adjective-order question. That's 8 upvotes. On something everyone has upvoted already. What's going on?
@RegDwighт Oh thanks. My boss and I both fill one out, then we compare. Great process, let me tell you <she says snidely>.
@Mahnax I'm awake! I'm awake! I have to take these two small boys to a pool party. A pool party! For a 5-year-old! drinks more coffee, takes xanax
OK bye!
Bye!
15:13
@KitFox me too.
And bye!
@KitFox you mean he wins by using Cameron's lyrics for his review of himself?
So we just put a new book up on Amazon for sale, and within a few days on Amazon we start to see the book also listed for sale in new condition from various resellers here and there all over the country. What's up with that?
Can you make a few cents just taking orders for books and turning around and buying them from Amazon and shipping them out?
I don't see how it's not a losing proposition. The book lists at $ 11 and here is someone listing it at $ 9.76 plus $ 3.99 shipping. Surely somebody loses.
Do you offer a bulk discount?
15:29
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I have no idea.
Hmm.
Wait, who is "we"?
the population of Mars
it's why shipping is so expensive
the chances of burning up on entry are astronomical
We is my sweetheart and me.
The Curiosity rover?
@MετάEd that's really strange. Not your definition of "we", but the reselling sitch.
Noooo chat maintenance
15:34
I think people must be buying in bulk from Amazon to avoid shipping charges and to get discounts, and then then reselling immediately, again through Amazon, and making a few cents on the deal.
16:13
Hooray, chat is back.
@RegDwighт And that’s not all: I just got +40 for my answer to that particular question, too.
@MετάEd That still doesn't make sense.
Unless they charge more for shipping than they actually spend.
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@Cerberus I'm sure they do.
Then that's their business model, yay!
16:25
I think a book dealer can buy from Amazon in bulk, freight included, and then basically make a few cents after paying postage out and a padded envelope.
Yes.
By the way, my friend imported Ralph Lauren shirts from America for € 20 each, sold them on Ebay.nl for € 30, made € 3000 a month. And he also had a full-time job as a lawyer, and was doing some kind of Master's programme in the evening too.
By "friend" I mean guy I had a single date with, years ago—and, no, nothing happened.
16:53
You had a date. That's something.
Yeah?
Sure.
You were more than two ships passing in the night.
Umm yeah.
sounds horn
Oh, it must be lunch time.

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