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Mitch
Mitch
00:15
@M.A.R. fMRI makes it look like up to 1% every minute or so
@M.A.R. Their parents?
Robusto
Robusto
00:28
@jlliagre Oh yeah ...
alphabet
alphabet
Phonological and Morphological Processes of African American Vernacular English in the Nicki Minaj’s Lyrics
Written by researchers in Indonesia, which may explain the typos
And just...general low quality, even for an analysis of Nicki Minaj
(They seem to think "gonna" is an example of "AAVE deletion rules.")
alphabet
alphabet
00:57
Today in AAVE: loss of the 3rd person singular verb form ("she walk" instead of "she walks").
> The incidence of 3rd sg. -s absence is so high for younger AAVE speakers in some sociolinguistic studies of core vernacular adolescents - reaching levels of between 75-100 percent for some speakers - that it has prompted several researchers (Labov et al. 1968; Fasold 1972) to speculate that contemporary urban "AAVE has no concord rule for verbal -s" (Fasold 1972:
146).
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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> Die erste Bildergeschichte: Der schlechte Hausaufsatz, 1934; auch: Vater hat geholfen
German of the day: Hausaufsatz. masculine noun. (Sch) homework essay, essay for homework.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Mitch "we use 1% of our brain" has the implication that a bunch of neurons are doing all the work, the rest are somehow a reserve. Which is just such a simple view that it can even be called 'stupid'.
@CowperKettle auch 'Hausaufgaben'
@CowperKettle Erste? What were all the caveman paintings then? Theses on zoology?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Erich Ohser
Kurt Erich Ohser (* 18. März 1903 in Untergettengrün, Amtshauptmannschaft Oelsnitz; † 6. April 1944 in Berlin) war ein deutscher Zeichner und Karikaturist, der besonders durch seine unter dem Pseudonym e. o. plauen geschaffenen Comicstrips um die Figuren Vater und Sohn Bekanntheit erlangte. == Leben == Als Erich Ohser im Jahr 1909 sechs Jahre alt war, zog die Familie nach Plauen. Dort beendete er erfolgreich eine Schlosserlehre und studierte anschließend gegen den Willen der Eltern von 1921 bis 1926 in Leipzig an der Staatlichen Akademie für graphische Künste und Buchgewerbe. Nebenbei arbeitete…
It's by this artist. I should start a page in the Russian Wiki on him.
I've gotten used to reading Wiki in foreign languages by just pressing right click-translate in Chrome.
Because they sometimes have more info.
Unfortunately, it no longer presents the original phrases in their source language on mouse-over (mouse-hover?)
It was interesting sometimes to look them up.
> In the early 1990s, the feature was also transformed into a children's book series by Iranian publisher, 'Vazheh', which included explanations of the cartoons (in Persian) along with the strip on the opposite page.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
01:45
Native speakers of tonal languages have enhanced melodic perception but at the cost of rhythm, a study suggests.
> Speaking a native language that requires tones appears to boost perception of melody, but at the cost of rhythm, researchers report April 26 in Current Biology. The massive global study hints at how language skills seep into other areas of cognition (SN: 3/29/23).
Cerberus
Cerberus
@CowperKettle In Dutch, opstel meaning a text written as an assignment in school.
Stellen is much like zetten, so the Dutch could be a loan translation.
Opzet would not work, because that means purpose, as in on purpose.
Hmm or perhaps it is simply from opstellen, which feels like an old word, meaning compose, as in composing a text.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Interesting
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Cerberus
Cerberus
@CowperKettle Is that because rhythm is less important in tonal languages?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@Cerberus Yes
Cerberus
Cerberus
Noted.
Mitch
Mitch
02:10
sure, I know what you're talking about, that kind of language has been annoying as you say forever because it is always said by some annoying parental figure
trying to get you to work harder or a conman trying to sell some shit.
the brain is just not a von Neumann computer processing unit which has this weird linear pathway which really is 1-10% being used at any given time.
but fMRI really does show that different parts of the brain are metabolizing sugar faster in one moment than another (as opposed to say the kidneys or liver which are filtering everything all at once.
which is to say.. maybe... maybe the 10% things isn't totally wrong.
i don't know
Cerberus
Cerberus
I have also heard that lots of intense thinking makes your brain burn a few more calories.
Not 100% sure how reliable that was.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
02:31
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Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus I've heard your brain consumes 25% of all your calories.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Robusto Maybe when you're not moving?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
02:50
> To a busy man, temptation is fain to climb up together with his business.
> Jeremy Taylor (1613–1667) was a cleric in the Church of England who achieved fame as an author during the Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell. He is sometimes known as the "Shakespeare of Divines" for his poetic style of expression, and he is frequently cited as one of the greatest prose writers in the English language.
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus I don't know.
> For the average adult in a resting state, the brain consumes about 20 percent of the body’s energy. The brain’s primary function — processing and transmitting information through electrical signals — is very, very expensive in terms of energy use.
brainfacts.org/Brain-Anatomy-and-Function/Anatomy/2019/…
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
03:05
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> Dildo is a local service district and designated place in the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador on the island of Newfoundland.
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> Dildo is a local service district (LSD)[15] that is governed by a committee responsible for the provision of certain services to the community.[16] The chair of the LSD committee is Greg Pretty.
Greg Pretty, chair of LSD committee.
alphabet
alphabet
03:33
@Mitch It kinda reminds me of dark silicon in computing
Today in linguistics: turns out Noam Chomsky hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. But don't worry, they were only together to have dinner with...Woody Allen.
Robusto
Robusto
@alphabet Sounds more like pedophilia than linguistics.
R.I.P. Gordon Lightfoot
"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" - Gordon Lightfoot (HD w/ Lyrics)
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Vikas
Vikas
03:51
Wife: Doctor has advised me to take a break and rest in countries like Switzerland, France, USA etc. Where would you take me?
Husband: To another doctor.
Robusto
Robusto
04:15
Bar patron 1: Something's wrong with my wife. She thinks she's a chicken.
Bar patron 2: Why don't you take her to the doctor. I'm sure they have some kind of drugs for that.
Bar patron 1: I would, but we need the eggs.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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Michael Nielsen
Michael Aaron Nielsen (born January 4, 1974) is a quantum physicist, science writer, and computer programming researcher living in San Francisco. == Work == In 1998, Nielsen received his PhD in physics from the University of New Mexico. In 2004, he was recognized as Australia's "youngest academic" and was awarded a Federation Fellowship at the University of Queensland. During this fellowship, he worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Caltech, and at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics.Alongside Isaac Chuang, Nielsen co-authored a popular textbook on quantum computing, which has...
Cerberus
Cerberus
04:37
@CowperKettle Something like this @Mitch.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:58
> Qu'il luise ou qu'il luiserne, L'ours rentre en sa caverne.
Cerberus
Cerberus
05:27
> The Ukrainian soldiers have to put on special booties or slippers when they go inside their German panzer howitzer, to avoid tracking in mud, and each vehicle comes with its own vacuum cleaner.
Germans and their cleanliness.
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
07:46
I wonder which is better: small bowel barium follow-through, or MR enterography. I was told by the doctor to do the first.
Maybe the second is more precise. Curious.
The first, though, is 3 times cheaper.
 
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Xanne
Xanne
08:53
Daily Octordle #463
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jlliagre
jlliagre
09:36
@CowperKettle Luiserne (a forgotten noun and verb for light) from Latin lucerna (oil lamp) cognates with luzerne, lucerne (aka alfalfa), lucarne (dormer window), lucarn, Provençal luserna glow-worm and Russian люце́рна, but not the cities of Luzern or Locarno.
Also with Lucernaire (from Latin lucernarium)
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Ditto.
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:25
@jlliagre Interesting!
> Yaws was treated with mercuric chloride (labeled as Corrosive Sublimate) before the advent of antibiotics. It was applied topically to alleviate ulcerative symptoms. Evidence of this is found in Jack London's book The Cruise of the Snark in the chapter entitled "The Amateur M.D."
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
11:16
> Ella Davis Hudson remembers stacking bricks in March 1958 to make a kitchen to play house. The next thing she knew, the 9 year-old was running down the driveway, blood streaming from the gash above her eye. She doesn’t remember the actual blast from an atomic bomb.
> On March 11, 1958, an Air Force bomber dropped a nuclear weapon on a farm in the rural Mars Bluff community outside Florence. The radioactive payload either wasn’t loaded in the warhead or didn’t detonate — the stories differ.
> At the hospital, two odd things happened for a little country girl: Everybody wanted her to pull off the apron so they could take photographs and a doctor waved a Geiger counter over her.
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
12:52
> Women are more susceptible than men to injuries of the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL), a key to knee stability, and that damage can result in a mechanical imbalance exposing cartilage to injurious friction and excessive mechanical load, triggering degeneration.
Interesting. Probably because of the sex hormones. Likewise, sometimes women have the fulminant melting of corneas during pregnancy, because of the variation of hormones that affect tissues.
Robusto
Robusto
13:16
@CowperKettle Playing a sport like basketball will do that readily enough to men. I know from experience.
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Robusto
Robusto
13:38
🌎 May 2, 2023 🌍
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globle-game.com
#globle
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jlliagre
jlliagre
13:53
#Worldle #466 1/6 (100%)
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Mitch
Mitch
14:05
@alphabet yeah sort the same. only some small percentage working/drawing energy at any particular time
Mitch
Mitch
14:16
@alphabet wow. WSJ is pretty reputable. but I dont yet see anything in NYT or WaPo about it, just Fox News, BoingBoing and youtube/reddit commenters.
@Cerberus Yeah I don't doubt that computers can do amazing things well beyond the capabilities of humans, that would be ludicrous. databases that memorize insane amounts of facts, superfast algorithms for optimizing networks.
The AlphaFold project is a huge success (and potentially even more huge successes).
and it is a very successful use of generative AI and transformers (two separate techs that are combined).
First an argument by analogy (which of course is the weakest justification if at all). When Deep Blue, back in 1995, was beating Kasparov at chess, Kasparov and other chess experts then (and before too) would be astounded at some of the moves Deep Blue would make, like it really -understood- them, really knew what was going on in the human's head, and played well because of it.
But I wouldn't use the terms 'understanding' or 'intelligent', in their normal everyday usage, to describe Deep Blue. Sure, we could come up with stipulative definitions of those two words and use them with Deep Blue, but then those stipulated meanings would have different implications from what you and I usually mean when use 'understand' or 'intelligent'.
I think you understand where I'm going with this.
When we read 'understanding' in Nielsen's description, it sounds like there is some humanness to it that is like an older experienced professor who we might ask for an 'why' kinds of explanations. And that is just not the case at all with these algorithms.
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
15:08
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Is /l/ in “whole” dark or clear?‭ by wytafrtyhobkfuhikh eedeekeefrr‭ on english.SE
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
15:41
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (92): What are some tips for dressing appropriately for a business casual office environment while still looking polished and put-together?‭ by Satish s‭ on english.SE
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@alphabet Maybe it was just a regular hobnob among the rich and powerful
@Robusto Because of jumping?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
16:33
A pair of natural scientists at Macquarie University in Australia, has found an example of tool use by an insect in Australian assassin bugs
Do they 'understand' that they are using tools?
Mitch
Mitch
16:46
@CowperKettle I think it is the landing after a jump that causes the problems.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
> A personal history revealed that the patient, with the agreement of her parents, had suspended the treatment due to poor compliance since at least 6 months before the present admission.
"suspended the treatment due to poor compliance" is not logical, it lacks any explanation why she did that.
When non-native speakers write articles in English, one has to guess.
"failed to comply with the treatment regimen due to suspension of the treatment by herself"
Michael Rybkin
Michael Rybkin
17:11
youtube.com/watch?v=7DDMscjP8YY#t=36s Gonna have ______. (What did he say?)
Vikas
Vikas
17:32
> ISIS Chief Qurashi killed in Syria, Turkey's Erdogan makes big announcement
Hmmmmmm
@MichaelRybkin "Almost done the level" sounds like this to me.
> Turkey discovers new oil field with production capacity estimated at 100,000 bpd — Erdogan
alphabet
alphabet
17:53
@Mitch Clearly NYT is part of the conspiracy. (Sarcasm! 90% sarcasm.)
冥王 Hades
冥王 Hades
18:33
Nah
Michael Rybkin
Michael Rybkin
18:53
@Vikas Thank you, but that's not what I'm having a problem with. The words that I can't catch come a bit later. After "almost done the level".
Guys, check this sentence for me please:

The creator of the universe is only one. How much more simpler could that be?
Vikas
Vikas
19:11
@MichaelRybkin Just after "here we go"?
At 0.40 and 0.41 and 0.42 seconds.
Robusto
Robusto
19:30
@CowperKettle There's also making quick turns, dodges, etc. Plus it's constant pounding on a hard surface.
Mitch
Mitch
@MichaelRybkin "Gimme a flag" maybe.
"The creator of the universe is only one _thing_. How much simpler could that be?"

1) "...is only one" really needs one to modify something. It might be OK without it but it will sound weird and special (may be acceptable in religious speech which this looks like it might be).
2) It's either "more simple" or "simpler" not both together. Both is almost a caricature of sloppy/poor speech.
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch More like "doin' the flag" I think.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@CowperKettle They do seem on LSD
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto yes, it could be that also.
@CowperKettle MRI is usually much clearer especially with contrast, but barium is also supposed to really highlight things. Barium is supposedly trending out (younger docs not as used to it), but with an experienced reader maybe it's just as good as MRI (I don't know, hopefully that gives you more info to ask about). But yeah MRI is way more expensive. But also CT is ionizing radiation so check your yearly acceptable dose.
@alphabet I suspect that NYT/WaPo are waiting to see the real documents first before writing something up. Other places are willing to repeat other places without checking sources to get clicks. ie "WSJ says cell phones cause fingernail boils"
Michael Rybkin
Michael Rybkin
20:10
@Mitch Thank you
@Mitch So, "How much simpler could that be?" would be the correct choice of words here?
Mitch
Mitch
@CowperKettle That sounds poor because it is pleonastic. Poor compliance sounds like she had already stopped taking the meds. Saying 'I suspend the treatment' because 'of poor compliance' is like saying 'I stopped taking meds officially' because 'I wasn't good at taking meds (had stopped taking meds informally)'
@MichaelRybkin Yes
Michael Rybkin
Michael Rybkin
@Mitch thank you once again
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
20:46
@CowperKettle with imaging, typically each method has its pros and cons, irrespective of cost, radiation dose, whatever. I'd recommend going with what the doctor prescribed. It's likely that the results would be easier to interpret somehow, and it's not simply just a matter of specificity and sensitivity.
@Mitch which kinda does make sense TBH. But if it's something they shouldn't have discontinued not telling the doctor was a good idea. It's possible there was some side effect (e.g. injection site reactions) that lowered adherence. This is one case where a good responsible pharmacist would shine, by helping the patient overcome the adverse effects, increasing compliance
For example, a simple antihistamine would have helped if it was an injection site reaction.
@CowperKettle IIRC there is a type of tool usage that's instinctive and not taught/learned. Say, mother chimps teach baby chimps how to crack walnuts, but there's no such process if it's instinctive.
@Cerberus I've heard that chess grandmasters eat a very high-calorie diet and burn it all off. I've never interacted with one in a clinical setting to confirm that
Mitch
Mitch
@M.A.R. It's the premise behind the Matrix, that humans are being farmed as biobatteries, and kept in life-like hallucinations.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
It does feel like healthcare workers are used as biobatteries
There are many Russians who hate Putin and hate the war. There are quite a few Russians on this planet. — Gantendo 2 days ago
Like who? innocent whistle
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
21:36
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Q: How can schizophrenics help computers generate random numbers?

ZazI just found the study Human Psychological Disorder towards Cryptography: True Random Number Generator from EEG of Schizophrenics and Its Application in Block Encryption's Substitution Box. From what I understand, they are processing EEG results from schizophrenic patients to generate random numb...

clinical-study cognitive-science neuroscience mathematics schizophrenia
Apr 25 at 13:58, by M.A.R.
Those tech geeks better keep their opinions to things they barely understand, and not things they don't even barely understand
> Schizophrenia is a multifaceted chronic psychiatric disorder that affects the way a human thinks, feels, and behaves. Inevitably, natural randomness exists in the psychological perception of schizophrenic patients, which is our primary source of inspiration for this research because true randomness is the indubitably ultimate valuable resource for symmetric cryptography.
Okay, the way I understand it, they've decided the noise in EEG readings is "natural randomness"
Mitch
Mitch
22:20
@M.A.R. that seems .... silly?
Aren't there a lot better understood forms of randomness? Like radioactive decay of particles?
They don't really know if there's no pattern or not in schizoid brain waves
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
23:34
@Mitch and way beyond stupid for an article. Maybe they're taking Joker's chaos schtick too seriously.
Because schizophrenia isn't "a multifaceted chronic psychiatric disorder that affects the way a human thinks, feels, and behaves", except maybe in A Beautiful Mind. It has a precise clinical definition and is well-described.
And simply put, if you can tell schizophrenia cases from each other, that means the thoughts and manifestations aren't random
As for the EEG noise, it's probably like noise in any other instrument. Random? Certainly not, because you can affect it. If they're using EEG waves then it's indescribably stupid, because those waves can actually be interpreted, though maybe not as much in psychiatric disorders.
Cerberus
Cerberus
23:51
@M.A.R. As though the noise from a normal brain wouldn't serve that purpose equally well.
Sounds very silly and naïve. Simplistic, like some socio-psychological studies.
> While the brain burns a lot of energy, any changes in brain activity and energy use during a tough mental task are minute: “maybe a 5% change against the backdrop of all brain activity,” he says.
Time Magazine. time.com/5400025/does-thinking-burn-calories
@Mitch Right, I believe the first computer intelligence will not have 'humanness' at all. Even Chat GPT tries to fake humanness, but everyone knows it's just a thin front.

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