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12:21 AM

@EllieKesselman not familiar with that one. But I mean the move a lady would do in riposte for a bow from a gentleman.

The Russian term being реверанс, obviously entlehnt from French, so I'm sort of transliterating rather than translating.

I know that I looked up the proper translation a couple years ago, but have since forgotten.

> reverence (countable and uncountable, plural reverences)
2. An act of showing respect, such as a bow.
Make twenty reverences upon receiving […] about twopence.

reverence

Noun: reverence (countable and uncountable, plural reverences)

Veneration; profound awe and respect, normally in a sacred context.
An act of showing respect, such as a bow.
(Can we date this quote?) Goldsmith
Make twenty reverences upon receiving […] about twopence.
The state of being revered.

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Verb: reverence (third-person singular simple present reverences, present participle reverencing, simple past and past participle reverenced)

(transitive) To show or feel reverence to.
Synonyms...

So reverence it is, then.

Following the trail from that I get to книксен, in turn entlehnt from Deutsch. Which finally gets me to curtsey.

So take that one if you prefer.

But @Rob is a learned man, he can read between the lines and even letters, so I can literally throw at him whatever the fuck I want.

Who the hell says curtsey anyway. I sure don't. Exhibit A above.

Книксен и реверанс - что это и в чем разница?

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Как правильно делать Реверанс. Балетный поклон

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Xanne

1:02 AM

entlehnt!

loaned in or borrowed from, I suppose

Robusto

1:42 AM

@RegDwigнt Indeed, I did not bat an eye at reverences. I just figured you were taking bows as a starting point and riffing on it.

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Captain Bohemian

7:08 AM

food is the biggest problem

nobody would be glad to make food freely for resolving human hunger because it's a hassle. Only machines can do that, but such a machine has not been devised.

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RegDwigнt

10:41 AM

@CaptainBohemian Every human can cook for themselves. WTF you need a machine for. Just take food and cook it.

That, and machines cooking food have been devised and are working around the world 24/7. Who do you think makes all that soup and puts it in all them cans. Certainly not my nan.

Captain Bohemian

11:19 AM

@RegDwigнt Not every human has a house with cooking facility to cook in. Housing is difficult, but cooking facility is easy. But you need a house to accommodate it.

it's like you want to shower every day, you need a house with shower facility. Shampoo is easy but the house having shower facility is difficult.

that's why most people eat in eateries. They can't afford a house with cooking facility.

most studios don't offer cooking facilities.

if you work in library, it's also the same problem.

if you can afford to rent a room, the landlord usually forbids cooking.

but you wouldn't go back your bedroom until midnight, so that's really not a problem. The real problem of cooking is cooking facility, that is, kitchen isn't everywhere.

nobody wants to build public kitchens everywhere for everyone to use freely.

but eateries are indeed everywhere.

the problem is most of them sell meager food with expensive price. That's where human hunger lies in.

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RegDwigнt

12:48 PM

@CaptainBohemian yes but we are getting off-topic right there. The topic was a machine that makes food. The topic was not a machine that makes houses for you to cook in. Though these exist, too.

And anyway. Every single house I've ever visited had a kitchen. Every single camp site. Every single prehistoric cave. Cooking facilities are absolutely everywhere people go.

World hunger does not exist because you rent a room and the landlord forbids cooking. If you have that kind of money, you can feed yourself.

Mitch

1:03 PM

@RegDwigнt tents

Tents have terrible cooking areas.

They fill up with smoke and the burning plastic sticks to you like napalm

You obviously don't live in a tent

@CaptainBohemian that's a behavioral issue. You just have to change your habits. Learn how to stack books properly for a cooking flame that doesn't burn too quickly.

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Mitch

1:37 PM

@M.A.R. see also english.stackexchange.com/questions/429932/…

M.A.R.

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Q: where to ask english related questions since they are marked off-topic in this community?

Recently a question of mine in English Language and Usage group was marked as off-topic. While this community is the only place where this question logically should be asked. There's nothing to be done about the existing off-topic decision here is the subject question.

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Captain Bohemian

6:12 PM

@RegDwigнt that's very common. Even school dorm rooms forbid cooking. Cooking is not our general routine. Bedrooms are not meant to be rented to cook. It's just a place to sleep and shower. If you want to cook, you need to rent a family-type house, which includes more than one bedroom, kitchen and living room, and is far more expensive.

nowadays fewer and fewer people cook because most people have real things to do.

it's mainly eateries which serve the function of resolving hunger.

and more and more eateries hire people from poor countries to cook.

my cooking machine means a machine which can serve the function of a chef, baker and farmer, not simple machine like a microwave stove.