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15:01
Hmmm, I always have questions
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8, I understand how and when the phrase is used. But, I am wondering why it is used. — dheerosaur 4 hours ago
Have to go now :(
See you
once you have how and when to use it, surely that is why?
@Monica byeee
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@MattЭллен lol
@MattЭллен Looking at the other comments there I suppose he is asking about etymology. Except he's doing it in a way that confuses everyone.
15:07
@ClarkKent As far as I know, they all tried real hard (the KJV people for Early Modern English were supposedly Greek and Hebrew scholars). I haven't noticed what the process for the more recent versions (NIV, 'Good News', etc) has been like.
@Monica all that silence you hear...argh, I just ruined it.
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@Mitch Anyway, that was just a casual remark. I did not mean I thought the translation is not good. But I like the NASB which some think is the most literal.
@ClarkKent what is the original?
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@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I don't know.
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Only God knows for sure, if that is his word.
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 the tanakh and the septuagint
15:10
May 13 '11 at 16:01, by RegDwight
The Bible is a collection of random stories told and re-told by millions of people over the course of millenia, then written down and re-written, and re-written again by anyone who felt like re-writing it.
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@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 And again we have opened a can of worms!
I see your "original" Bible and raise you a one-thousand years older version that vanished forever in the flames of Alexandria.
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closes can of worms with a QED
@ClarkKent yick
15:12
@MattЭллен hey you can vote in Morse now!
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There were arguments for example over whether it should be "only son" or "only begotten son" in the bible.
which makes me think it would make a good Connie Willis story, time-travelling going back to the library to see what was there.
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@MattЭллен How did that happen?
virgin vs maiden vs young woman
glass slipper vs squirrel-fur slipper
@ClarkKent I was getting the up/down count and clicked on the 0 a few times
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15:14
And whatever translation you use, one can interpret the bible in so many different ways you wonder why some people claim theirs is the only correct one.
@MattЭллен What are you doing, dear?
Half of Maimonides 'Guide to the Perplexed' is about the distinction in Hebrew of two synonyms in the Bible.
@Cerberus Getting a timeout, darling.
Oh?
From what?
From checking the up/down count
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15:15
@cerb @matt No flirting in chat.
Ah.
How often do you click the number?
Twice a second on average?
I'm going to buy a bicycle.
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@Cerberus Good luck. I cannot ride a bicycle.
@Cerberus I clicked it once, then after probably a second I clicked it again, then I clicked it maybe 4 times within a second
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I may get a tricycle if they have one.
@Cerberus :O are you going to be a man about Amsterdam?
making all the fly honeys swoon
yeah, I thought that's what it was, but the spell checker didn't recognise it
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15:18
Now I am not sure so I have deleted it.
@Cerberus what type of bicycle?
I bet you'd look dapper on a penny fathing!
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@Mitch You seem quite a bible scholar.
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@MattЭллен One with two wheels.
OMG! obv!
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Seriously, how can I learn how to ride a bike?
user19161
15:20
I tried many times.
I learned with stabilisers, but the quickest way is to fall off a lot
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@MattЭллен What kind of stabilizers, oral?
no! on the rear wheel of the bicycle
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Ah I thought the other kind might help too.
although mine were smaller, since I was about 5 or something
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15:22
That makes it a quadricycle!
@ClarkKent Why not?
@MattЭллен You're a natural.
A natural blond? Why yes! How did you guess?
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@Cerberus I don't know.
@MattЭллен I was rather thinking of transporting myself from one place to another...but those stabilizers look dashing!
Greetings.
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15:24
@mahnax You got so much rep today!
@ClarkKent Yes, I am glad.
Unfortunately, I feel even worse than yesterday.
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@Mahnax Pourquoi?
@ClarkKent I am sick.
user19161
@Mahnax With what?
@ClarkKent Uh, I don't know. Sickness.
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15:26
@Mahnax Do you have fever?
I have a sore throat, a horribly runny nose, and lots of coughing/sneezing.
@Cerberus bicycles are very good for that sort of ting, I have found.
No fever.
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@Mahnax Well, just see a doctor or take some pills.
sounds like a cold. you need bed rest
15:27
And this computer runs like molasses runs uphill in January in Siberia.
@MrShinyandNew, @Mahnax do you have a double bank holiday coming up, for the Queen's jubilee?
@MattЭллен I agree, not a fricking cycle ride to school.
@Mahnax Aww.
glares at father
@Mahnax What's wrong with it?
15:28
@Cerberus It takes a few seconds for letters that I have typed to appear.
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Q: Does "so far, so good" carry a negative connotation?

rishimaharajAs a follow up to this etymology question, does "so far, so good" carry a negative connotation? For example, after having her sonogram, my wife asked the technician if everything was okay. The technician replied, "so far, so good." My wife later remarked that she didn't like that the technicia...

Oh...
The network is really slow and these computers are running XP.
Geez. Like this needed the punditry to weigh in, full force.
Any letters, anywhere?
15:29
@Cerberus Yeah.
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@Robusto It just means what it means.
Weird.
Never seen that.
@MattЭллен I don't think so.
user19161
Essentially everything just means what it means.
@Mahnax huh. You should write to your government and demand to get the same treatment as the British!
15:30
Rain?
:Þ two days off next week, silly
Yeah, I don't want rain!
We had some of that yesterday.
We've got some now
Ooh, lucky you.
user19161
Rains here can appear anytime and stop anytime.
15:32
Yuck, it has started to rain here too.
user19161
There is no point in looking at the weather forecast.
@Robusto top question on the MC right now.
Rain here can appear anytime, then turn into snow, then disappear completely for an hour and return as a small hurricane, then snow some more, and then get really nice.
So no buyke-biing today.
@Cerberus That's what you get for making fun of British weather!
15:33
@MattЭллен I'm so sorry...
But our weather is as bad as yours!
@Cerberus Don't be foolish! It's a super, extra, best reason to buy a bike today.
@Cerberus shops in Dutchland have no ceilings?
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@MattЭллен Can weather be British?
@ClarkKent oh yes
@MattЭллен Yeah, so I get to ride home on it in the rain already!
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Not this one.
It's at a market.
And it's also not connected to my house through a tunnel.
15:34
But then it's a good test, actually.
Every bike can be good when it's sunny.
@Cerberus Well that's inconvenient.
But it's only really good if it passes the stress test.
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I wouldn't use it when it was raining, normally.
@Cerberus depending on the level of rain. bike riding is best in luke warm drizzle
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A bicycle is only good if I can ride it.
15:35
@Cerberus still, it would be good to know you could.
@Mahnax I know!! But however many letters I send to the city council, nothing happens.
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Since I cannot ride a bike, all bikes are bad.
@MattЭллен Well, this is Holland. Most rain is cold and wet and long.
@Cerberus Bribe them with a shiny new bicycle.
I once got in a snow storm on my racing bike. With slicks, mind you. Turns out it's a great bike. Doesn't mean I'm actively seeking snow storms now.
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15:36
@Cerberus Don't you call it Netherlands?
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I already know I can't. I'm made of sugar. I would melt.
Or dissolve.
@Cerberus you're Bastinda?
@Mahnax Hmm there is some flaw in this plan, but what is it...
@ClarkKent Usually Holland when talking to foreigners, somehow.
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@Cerberus I think there's a British girl's magazine called Sugar.
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Who?
15:37
@Cerberus Hmm...
The Wicked Witch of the West is a fictional character and the most significant antagonist in L. Frank Baum's children's book The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. In Baum's subsequent Oz books, it is the Nome King who is the principal villain; the Wicked Witch of the West is rarely even referred to again after being destroyed in the first book. The witch's most popular depiction was in the classic 1939 movie based on Baum's book. In that film adaptation, as in Gregory Maguire's revisionist Oz novel ' and its musical adaptation Wicked, the Witch of the West is the sister of the Wicked Witch of the...
@ClarkKent Ohhh!!! Why did I not know this!!! Thank you so much.
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I think there's a Linux desktop called Sugar too.
@ClarkKent looks at Jasper disapprovingly
15:38
Bastinda was her name in the Soviet adaptation.
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I remember something about Oz, but I don't see Bastinda there...
The Wizard of the Emerald City () is a 1939 children's novel by Russian writer Alexander Melentyevich Volkov. The book is a loose translation of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. Baum's name is sometimes credited in the book (in the appendix by Volkov, which is found in some editions, where Volkov describes the origins of his book), though Baum's estate never received royalties from the Soviet Union. The names of most characters are changed, some elements of Baum's novel are removed, and some new elements are added. The book was revised in 1959 and became quite popular in the 196...
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@Mahnax I saw your summer plans, sounds lovely!
@ClarkKent Hopefully!
Oh, funny.
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15:39
@Mahnax I would have thought you would include some math in it.
@ClarkKent Perhaps. I would be interested in Stats.
I'm not generally a staunch supporter of copyright, but some attribution would have been nice.
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Hi @corn!
@Cerberus I loved Volkov's sequels as a child.
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I am so glad I can stop downvoting now that I have exactly 1000 downvotes.
15:41
Basically it was the Harry Potter of my time and place.
Hello @ClarkKent!
d'oh >_<
is your tab key next to your enter button, @cornbreadninja?
@Matt lol no, just need more coffee.
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So initially I did not downvote. Then I received many downvotes. Then I saw others downvoting. Then I picked up the habit. Now I will break this habit.
I shouldn't be in here anyway
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15:43
@MattЭллен You so funny!
@ClarkKent Would you like a medal?
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Cool. So he wrote sequels? That's the way art should work. Good luck doing that in any of the fields where the copyright industry rules...
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@Mahnax Nope. I think you should see a doctor and stay at home if necessary.
@ClarkKent I never disagreed with that.
@Cerberus which is only all of them
anyway. I must cycle home in the rain. toodles!
15:46
@Matt yeesh
@MattЭллен Bye!
Bye Matt!
Wow, one of my answers got autocollided.
Now it has 16 upvotes.
It took all of four seconds to write that answer.
@ClarkKent not at all. I'm just repeating things I picked up randomly.
I'm off, bye.
15:50
@Robusto I think ELU is a logical choice for settling marital arguments and bar bets. Nobody knows where we live.
except for @Cerberus.
Do I?
Oh. You don't know where you live?
later @Mahnax. feel better and stuff.
@Mahnax simple question, simple answer, easy to see that it's obviously correct.
@Mitch Umm...we = Cerberus?
15:54
Don't hold me to pronouns.
By 'me' I mean somebody else.
Actually yes. If you call knowing your country, knowing where you live.
I have no idea what you're talking about, at all.
But I'm sure it's something nice.
or not unnice.
1) People get angry over things (like marital arguments and bar bets) 2) getting involved is never good and everybody blames you. 3) so it is good to not have people know where you live if you get involved in something bad like that and 4) nobody knows where anybody here lives. 5) except for you @Cerberus.
Of course that's not true in the sense that a bunch of us know where a bunch of us live in a vague sense, but not exactly.
that's all.
@Mitch So you don't know where you live?
still a bit puzzled
Or do I know the specific street address of someone else here?
I don't think I do?
exactly.
So what do you do when you need to go home?
You ask someone who knows?
16:00
I get there and then I know I'm home because no one gets upset and kicks me out.
How do you get there?
Your guardian takes you?
In the movie 'Memento', (the guy who has no short term memory), when he goes out into the parking lot to get in to his car...well he has no idea where he parked it, but he just uses his electronic key to flash the lights or honk the horn remotely so he knows which car is his. Of course he doesn't realize that he just stole the car the day before.
16:14
Ah, so he is your great example?
You stole a car just so that you might not recognize it and risk punishment?
16:27
We should stop pretending this site has anything at all to do with English Language and Usage.
We should call it English Nostrums, Home Remedies & Sundries. Without the Oxford comma, btw.
Jez
Jez
£42000 job offer... :-)
16:53
@Jez Nice!
@cornbreadninja Thanks.
@Jez Wow! Is it an interesting job?
17:13
Hello
I need some help please
OK.
with this sentence
‘I don’t need the urn, the ashes? Well, that’s a perfect fertilizer for flowers.’
Is anything wrong with it?
Eh, not really.
Then again, I'm kind of brain-dead so I might not be the best person to ask.
It's okay
:)
She wanted to go to her neighbor to tell her about her decision when suddenly there was a knock at the door. Lucy went to the door.
Could you check this too?
She wanted to go to her neighbour to tell her about her decision, when suddenly, there was a knock at the door.
17:21
Thanks a lot
No problem.
You are not brain-dead at all
Well gee, thanks.
I'm sick, so I'm not really thinking quite clearly, though.
Hi Jasper.
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@Mahnax Hi!
@ClarkKent How is your day going?
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17:23
@Mahnax Same, which means bad, but I am trying every day as you know.
@ClarkKent Well, yes. Always keep trying.
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@Mahnax Yes, there can be miracles when you believe.
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By the way @mahnax how did you install mactex? From dvd or internet?
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Just some statistics. I find that I take 1 h 15 min to do a net install, 2 h 30 min to download the DVD ISO and 25 min to do a DVD install.
@ClarkKent Internet.
Hm, I wonder how that happened.
user19161
17:27
@Mahnax What happened?
@ClarkKent Somehow I posted a URL leading to my EL&U profile.
But I wasn't trying to.
I don't know how I did it.
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@Mahnax I get weird errors now and then. Could be human error and we typed something wrongly, or some computer error. After all, a million things could go wrong with something as complex as a computer.
@Monica What do you mean in the sentence? (it does sound strange)
‘I don’t need the urn, the ashes?’
@Mitch It sounds like she is responding to someone saying "Would you like the urn or the ashes?"
Is it: ‘I don’t need the urn or the ashes?.’ ?
user19161
17:29
For example, on Debian that day, the package manager tried to upgrade a package though I did not type in that command. I am still trying to figure out why.
Whatever way, doing a comma like that is not a 'legal' replacement (except maybe in poetry)
Maybe "I don't need the urn, but the ashes? Well, that's a perfect fertilizer for flowers."
Even that is a little too elided.
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Oh and I don't correct commas in chat. Commas are too complex for chat.
no commas in chat.
17:30
No chat in this comma.
The woman got rid of her husband
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Again I must tell the story that I once spent several days studying commas from several sources.
And of course didn't need 'his ashes' either
So maybe: ‘I don’t need the urn. But the ashes? Well, that’s perfect fertilizer for flowers.’
'that's perfect fertilizer'... no 'a'
Yes, that's what I needed
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17:32
@Mitch Yes, I like that.
No a?
how did she get rid of the husband. Materially (like with a club or broken bottle)?
correct, fertilizer is a 'mass' noun.
You can read the whole story if you are interested
Another sentence that is bothering me is
Who will charge almost a blind woman with an unintended murder?
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@Monica Who will charge an almost blind woman with unintended murder?
what about this one?
Interestingly, who was the man she killed?
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17:39
@Monica Good.
user19161
But I am not sure what you mean by interestingly there.
I meant; It is interesting who...
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@Monica Hmm, I am not sure I would use interestingly with a question...
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I would just write Who was the man she killed?
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That would make it interesting enough.
17:43
So it is not used in questions?
user19161
I am not an expert but I would not use it that way.
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Maybe you can hear from the rest.
I added 'but'
Who will charge an almost blind woman with unintended murder? But who was the man she killed? Are they searching for him?
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@Monica Sure.
But why did you remove an before unintended?
As a non-native speakers I need rules badly
:D
speaker*
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17:47
@Monica One can keep the an there in which case murder would be used as a countable noun. But usually we say that one is charged with murder with murder used as an uncountable noun.
I see
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@Monica I would write that without any commas or with a pair of commas around suddenly.
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She wanted to go to her neighbor to tell her about her decision when suddenly there was a knock at the door.
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She wanted to go to her neighbor to tell her about her decision when, suddenly, there was a knock at the door.
user19161
The pair of commas around suddenly is called a pair of bracketing commas that sets off a weak interruption.
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17:53
But this is just one school of thought. There are various schools of thought in the realm of commas.
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@Monica Also note that different authorities will give slightly different rules.
I almost got disconnected
Something is wrong with my PC sorry
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@Monica Have you fixed your computer problems?
No, not yet
user19161
You should update the computer and the browser ASAP.
18:01
I can't do that myself
Yes, of course I need to do that ASAP
Could you check this too?
As it was found out later he visited two houses that day. One of them belonged to an aged couple and the second one to you. He had marked the addresses.
'he' is an advertising firm worker
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@Monica Fine.
Thanks God!
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@Monica thank, not thanks
Oh, really?
I always thought it was 'thanks'
user19161
@Monica Oh, there are two versions. Let me explain.
18:05
thanks by itself, as an interjection
user19161
Thank God! is a common expression.
thank with a name or pronoun
user19161
Thanks, God means you are saying thanks to God the usual way you say thanks, Matt.
e.g."thank him for the flowers!"
user19161
Thank God! may be seen as an expression meaning Let us thank God!
18:07
esssentially, I'd say, thanks when it's a noun, and when it's a verb use it as a regular verb
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It is interesting how our messages alternate @matt.
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Fascinating.
I thank
You thank
She/It/He thanks
They thank
We thank
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Not forgetting the common Thank you!
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18:09
Or Thank you very much!
which, I believe, is an ellipsis of "I thank you"
I see
I wonder how much you talk that my last message is too far back.
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@Gigili Don't use that. Use the transcript instead.
@Gigili 7, maybe 8
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18:11
@MattЭллен Minus one for no units of measurement.
@ClarkKent plus over 9000 for not needing them
Oh, dear.
Should I put 'To be continued' in parenthesis?
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@Monica Doesn't matter.
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That would be just a matter of style.
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18:14
Just be consistent.
I don't know why I like it so much in parenthesis
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Of course style must make sense too.
user19161
So if you use to be continued you should set it off from the main text in some way.
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@Monica Parentheses.
user19161
A pair of parentheses.
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18:16
Parentheses is the plural and parenthesis is the singular.
Oh,,, I am really angry now that's why I am making more and more stupid mistakes
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@Monica like ,,,
I am trying to post the story but I cant
Why? Of course because of my PC!!!!!!!!!!
Just post the story.
It says the story has too many words
18:20
post it where?
on a site
storymash.com
18:45
Every class today has been spent at least partially in a computer lab.
And all I have accomplished today is one paragraph in French.
Oh, French is so beautiful
I was learning it at school
Yes, I am in school right now, actually.
I still can't pastee my text
Ohhhh
Where are you from, Monica?
Georgia
18:54
Oh, I see.
The country or the state?
The country
Ah, I see.
What is the most common language there?
georgian
I guess that makes sense.
Is it written with its own script, or the Latin alphabet?
Or something else, perhaps?
What should I do when it says:Ensure this value has at most 36000 characters (it has 39473).
With it's own script
18:57
Ah OK.
That means that you have 3473 letters/spaces/punctuation marks more than you're allowed to.
I have mimimized their number but it still says the same
Huh.

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