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Cerberus

00:08

she could be arthropodophobic

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

They might be giants.

Cerberus

Triangle Man wins

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:D

Robusto

The confirmation we've all been waiting for: Scientists finally confirm that Uranus is surrounded by fart clouds

@Cerberus Triangle man hates particle man. It's a fact.

Cerberus

Indeed.

How saddening.

I have a question about babies and consistency.

Robusto

00:20

How is life below sea level?

Cerberus

Lying low.

If your infant is crying in the other room, what do you do? You'll probably go check on her, right?

Robusto

Bob Dylan - Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands

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Cerberus

Now, if you have determined that nothing is wrong, but she continues to cry despite your comforting her etc., what do you do next?

Robusto

@Cerberus It depends. If you're trying to put her down for the night, possibly not.

Cerberus

A. Stay with her until she stops, even if it takes hours.
B. Leave the room and let her cry for up to twenty minutes.

Robusto

00:23

@Cerberus It really depends. If the infant is colicky, you have to hold her and let her cry it out.

Cerberus

Do you feel that there is only one acceptable strategy, and any other strategy indicates horrible parenting?

Robusto

Some infants have digestive systems that are not fully developed and that causes colic ... which is a parent's nightmare, but something that has to be dealt with. It happened with my elder son.

Cerberus

Or is it also at least acceptable to let a colicky baby cry alone?

Robusto

@Cerberus Ultimately it is up to the parents, but I don't judge other parents and I certainly don't try to tell them what they should be doing.

Cerberus

Well, there is a limit beyond which you would intervene, right?

Robusto

00:25

@Cerberus That would have been too hard for me to do.

@Cerberus I would only intervene if I saw the parent doing something violent to the child.

Cerberus

@Robusto But would you say it's horrible parenting if something does do that?

@Robusto What if you saw the neighbour leave the house and get into her car, knowing that her baby was left at home all alone?

Robusto

@Cerberus Look, some things are horrible parenting and some are not, but there is a wide gulf between those poles.

Cerberus

Absolutely.

I find it interesting what people find acceptable and what not.

Robusto

@Cerberus That would be grounds for getting the authorities involved.

Cerberus

Because I am often surprised at how strongly people judge parents.

@Robusto OK so there are situations where you would intervene despite a lack of violence.

I'm just wondering about how consistent all of these social norms are.

Because I often observe discrepancies.

Between different people, different cultures, and different times.

Robusto

00:29

@Cerberus Yes. Let's change violent to harmful or potentially harmful.

Cerberus

Right.

But potentially harmful is sometimes hard to judge.

Robusto

True.

Cerberus

For example, what could happen if the mother left the baby at home alone for five minutes?

Robusto

I wouldn't want to adjudicate time periods of absentee parenting.

Cerberus

I know most people would feel this is not OK. But I'm trying to analyse the rationale between the varying situations and judgements.

Robusto

00:32

Well, these are among the most difficult situations. As a parent, you come to realize there is no way to win the game. You are going to make mistakes, sometimes big ones, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Imagine a situation where you are expected to handle unfamiliar situations perfectly with absolutely no experience and little education—and if you choose the wrong answer to a situation you can be judged forever based on the outcome.

That is parenting.

Cerberus

Yes, absolutely.

Robusto

Add to this that you probably are doing this on very little sleep.

Cerberus

But people seem especially quick to judge parents.

Robusto

People are assholes.

Cerberus

Or they're right.

It's complicated, no?

Robusto

00:36

Of course it's complicated.

Cerberus

So I'm curious about this apparent consensus that it's really, really horrible to leave your baby home alone for ten minutes.

Robusto

Now, most of the time things work themselves out with little or no lasting damage. The rest of the time there can be terrible consequences.

Cerberus

Yes.

I kind of understand this terror parents feel about open water, fire, and traffic.

Robusto

@Cerberus What if you trip on the stairs and break your neck or get knocked unconscious, or there happens to be a fire in the building, etc.

Cerberus

What, then?

Robusto

00:39

We don't think anything bad will happen, and most of the time it doesn't But I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my baby alone for ten minutes unattended.

Cerberus

I understand the instinct.

But I'm wondering how rational it is.

I'm trying to collect arguments pro and con, ideally.

Robusto

It's not rational. It's instinctive. It strikes at the very core of our beings.

Cerberus

Yeah.

But some parents do leave their babies alone.

Robusto

I found it much easier to go to any lengths to make sure my children were safe and attended, no matter what the inconvenience or pain to myself.

Cerberus

But maybe also because you felt not doing so might be potentially harmful, right?

You weren't sure enough that it was 100% harmless.

Robusto

00:42

Well, of course. I have an excellent imagination, and the things I could imagine happening to my children were so unthinkable I found it much easier to put up with any discomfort as long as I felt they were safe.

Cerberus

Understandable.

Robusto

You know, before you have children you have this idea that you will totally love the little baby when it arrives. But when it does arrive you realize that you were merely naive, you had no idea that you would be so totally, helplessly in love with your child. And the thought of anything happening to it would simply be anathema.

Cerberus

But even for you, there must have been limits.

Oh, I understand that.

WWYD - What would you do? - Episode 2

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@Robusto This video triggered my question.

It's about how people deal with a mother who has left her baby alone.

Mitch

02:16

@Cerberus You really can't leave a baby alone ever. They will totally get into your liquor cabinet and get the good stuff. Somehow they know. They're like monkeys.

Cerberus

@Mitch Funny you should bring up alcohol.

Mitch

And monkeys

Cerberus

I was having drinks with a friend this week at a crowded terrace.

Mitch

And the babies showed up. I know

Cerberus

Her 1yo really wanted a sip of her beer.

So she let him sip from the glass.

Mitch

02:18

Probably not a good idea

Cerberus

The people around us didn't know she was pregnant.

And drinking 0% beer.

So that was funny.

Too bad nobody noticed, or at least nobody said anything.

Mitch

So she was trolling all those people?

or trying to?

or would have if they noticed?

Cerberus

Trying to. Well, the trolling wasn't on purpose.

Mitch

It's disappointing when nobody falls for the prank you worked so hard to set up.

Cerberus

Yeah.

Mitch

02:19

Like getting pregnant

That's always good for a laugh

Cerberus

Fortunately, she only did it because he kept trying to drink from her glass, as babies do.

Mitch

Anyway, the French have been drinking alcohol while they're pregnant for ever, and that really hasn't...

hm...

Cerberus

But do they let their 1yos drink beer?

Some of my friends do drink while pregnant, but only like 1 glass a month.

A small glass.

Mitch

I din't think giving babies alcohol or alcohol tasting stuff (like 0% beer) is a god idea, because they become acclimated to easily to the taste and may trigger alcoholism later in life.

also, probably not great for the immediate health of the kid

Cerberus

She was thinking the same thing, but then she was like, what the heck.

I think an entire glass of beer would probably be unwholesome for a 1yo, though I don't know how bad it would be.

Mitch

02:22

@Cerberus Yeah, I don't think it's worth freaking out over. like some other judgy parents might do.

Cerberus

1 sip, though, wouldn't matter.

@Mitch Indeed.

Mitch

@Cerberus You'd hope the child would be disgusted by it, but then what if they weren't

Cerberus

The child will no doubt find 1 sip simply...fascinating.

Remember, they eat dirt.

Only when they have to eat something, then they become picky.

Mitch

about leaving your kid alone...I remember not too many years ago there was a story about a foreign couple and baby, I vaguely remember Dutch, were vacationing in New York, and they stopped to have dinner at a restaurant and they had the infant in a baby carriage right outside the window where they were sitting.

And the world freaked out.

I mean first of all anything can happen in NYC.

Because NYC

Cerberus

They could see it from where they were sitting?

Mitch

02:26

I should ask an ELU question about 'because'

Cerberus

Were they sitting really close to the door?

Mitch

But people would be dumb and not answer well.

Cerberus

Even then, it seems a little bit weird to me.

Mitch

@Cerberus Yeah, I vaguely remember they were supposedly sitting at the window with the carriage right outside the window.

could they get out quickly? I don't know

Cerberus

But if it takes you 1 minute to get to the door and to your baby...

Mitch

02:27

But it does have negative associations, like leaving your dog on a leash outside while you go into a bar to drink.

Cerberus

If the window was right next to the door, then maybe.

Yes, it's a little bit weird regardless.

Mitch

@Cerberus Babies can run fast if they really want to to get away

Cerberus

But not a huge deal anyway, I should think.

Mitch

haha but it's somebody nefarious and unknown that might steal the baby.

and sell it for parts

Cerberus

@Mitch Oh, the baby could get out of the stroller?

Mitch

02:29

@Cerberus no it was an infant. I'm just playing around

Cerberus

OK.

I'm sure baby theft is negligibly rare.

Mitch

depends on the prie you can get for them, and the condition

Cerberus

My brother lets his baby daughter get licked in the face by a dog.

Mitch

like if it's an ugly baby, maybe a discount?

Cerberus

And lets her eat things from the ground where the dog is lying.

Which some people find weird.

But I think it's fine.

Mitch

02:30

@Cerberus Oh pfft. dogs are really not a ... wait, sometimes dogs ... do things.

ick

Cerberus

They lick babies on the mouth.

Mitch

any wayy their slobber would make me cry. You need a towel to wipe that off. Yuck

Dogs will eat poop.

sometimes.

Cerberus

Sure.

Mitch

They seem like they such great friends, and then they'll eat some poop and you wonder what they're thinking.

Cerberus

But eating poop is generally no so bad, if it's a tiny bit and if there's no epidemic going on.

So if the dog is healthy and in a rich country.

@Mitch They're thinking: poop! Yummy!

Mitch

02:33

@Cerberus I'm pretty sure that there's always bacteria in your poop that were living in your gut very healthfully, but if they are ingested at the whole other end of the GI tract, it's not as pleasant.

@Cerberus Dogs can be such idiots.

Cerberus

@Mitch I doubt that, if you ingest them in small quantities at least.

Gut bacteria aren't built to infect your respiratory system.

And anything below that is where they live anyway.

Mitch

@Cerberus hmmm... google says E. coli is natural in human and animal lower GI.

Cerberus

But the bad kind?

Mitch

But then it says it can be very dangerous, causing life threatening diarrhea

Cerberus

But probably only if it infects your guts. And only if it's the bad kind, right?

Mitch

02:36

ah...there are different varieties of e coli, some good, some not so good.

Cerberus

Yeah.

Mitch

I'm sure there are other diseases you can get from poop. Typhus? Cholera?

Dogs.. sigh

Cerberus

So I think our aversion from poop is about in case the other person has a disease that can spread through the metabolic system. Such diseases are rare in rich countries. Like cholera.

Yes, cholera. But there is no cholera in a healthy population.

Mitch

But having a dog lick you on the mouth, that's not unhealthy at all. It's just... ew.... slobber that smells funny

Cerberus

My friend who is a nurse happily eats leftovers (half-eaten hamburgers) he find at McDonald's on neighbouring tables.

Mitch

02:38

@Cerberus modern water treatment.

mostly chlorine

Cerberus

Water is treated by chlorine? I don't believe so?

Mitch

which is where the syrian government gets it, from the water treatment facilities.

Cerberus

It's just left to sit and it goes through various filters.

Mitch

or rather from the same place the water treatment facilities get it.

Cerberus

Oh, maybe they have chlorinated tap water in Syria, sure.

But not here.

Mitch

02:42

Water chlorination

Water chlorination is the process of adding chlorine (Cl2) or hypochlorite to water. This method is used to kill certain bacteria and other microbes in tap water as chlorine is highly toxic. In particular, chlorination is used to prevent the spread of waterborne diseases such as cholera, dysentery, and typhoid. == History == In a paper published in 1894, it was formally proposed to add chlorine to water to render it "germ-free". Two other authorities endorsed this proposal and published it in many other papers in 1895. Early attempts at implementing water chlorination at a water treatment plant...

Cerberus

Yes but it doesn't happen here.

It happens in parts of France.

Mitch

I'm pretty sure it is one part (of many) of water treatment.

@Cerberus YOu're not thinking of fluorination are you?

Cerberus

Where it remains in the water.

@Mitch No, I am not.

Mitch

Chlorine (or a derivative) is a very easy and successful way (I've just been reading) of killing microorganisms (like the bacteria that can cause exactly that list, cholera, typhoid, shigellosis (dysentery)

and it is places where they tell you 'Don't drink the water', where they don't have good water treatment. Like Mexico or China

Cerberus

It seems using chlorine to disinfect drinking water was legal here before 2005.

As to when it was last used, I don't know.

@Mitch So are you talking about a way to use chlorine to disinfect water, and then removing the chlorine from the water? Or about keeping the chlorine in the tap water that people drink?

I've not heard of the former.

But the latter I have experienced in some places in France.

Mitch

02:49

@Cerberus > "The Dutch have universal access to the water supply and sanitation at very good quality. The drinking water network is in such good shape that treated water typically does not need to be chlorinated to prevent recontamination in the network, so that water reaches the consumer without a taste or smell of chlorine."

So I guess you're right.

about the Netherlands

Cerberus

Yeah, and it's also been illegal since 2005.

Mitch

illegal? that's little more than just not doing it.

Cerberus

Well, it is illegal.

Mitch

I mean, is it illegal to chlorinate your own water? Why would they make a law? Just have the water works people just not use it

Cerberus

It is illegal for water works to do so, is what I meant.

But also for any other party that's treating large quantities of water, I imagine.

Like some factory or whatever that needs lots of uninfected water.

Mitch

02:53

I thought chlorine was one of those universals for water treatment.

> [In Europe, most drinking water production companies use chlorine as a disinfectant. It is added to water as chlorine gas, calcium hypochlorite or sodium hypochlorite. Ozone is added for flavor and odor control. For drinking water preparation from surface water, chlorine is used as a primary disinfectant in most cases. ](lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/regulation-eu/…)

so I'm not crazy wrong

Cerberus

6 mins ago, by Cerberus

@Mitch So are you talking about a way to use chlorine to disinfect water, and then removing the chlorine from the water? Or about keeping the chlorine in the tap water that people drink?

Mitch

> France, for example, mainly uses ozone. In 1906 one started applying ozone for drinking water disinfection. Italy and Germany use ozone or chlorine dioxide as a primary oxidant and disinfectant. Chlorine is added for residual disinfection. Great Britain is one of few European countries that use chloramines for residual disinfection in the distribution network and for the removal of disinfection byproducts. Finland, Spain and Sweden use chloramines for disinfection occasionally.

Cerberus

I never said you were crazy. As I said, I remember drinking chlorine-tasting tap water in parts of France.

Mitch

@Cerberus I'm no chemist but I think you just bubble the chlorine through the water, it kills the bad stuff, but then passes away.

same with ozone or the other gases

i don't think it stays in solution in the water for very long.

Cerberus

Well, if you bubble it through the water, then it gets dissolved into the water. Otherwise it wouldn't affect the germs too much, I should think.

At any rate, have you never tasted chlorined tap water?

Mitch

02:58

@Cerberus I heard you thinking that. You were thinking it quite loudly. If that wasn't you then...

@Cerberus 1) I'm probably used to it. 2) somehow I don't think my intuition is off, I think most of the chlorine wafts way after a while.

Cerberus

Umm I don't think you can get used to the French water to the point of no longer noticing it!

It's like pool water.

Mitch

3) yes, I distinctly remember years ago filling a bathtub once and having it smell like I was near a swimming pool (which are usually highly chlorinated, because people are grosser than dogs

Cerberus

Have you tasted pool water?

Excatly.

So you're talking about gradations.

Mitch

yeah

Cerberus

But, if very small quantities are enough for tap water, then why is the French water so horrible?

I mean, I might drink a little sip if I'm extremely thirsty and there is no normal water.

But otherwise it's just basically undrinkable.

They only drink bottled water in those places.

Mitch

03:08

> Although there are concerns about carcinogens in drinking water, Health Canada's Laboratory Centre for Disease Control says that the benefits of chlorinated water in controlling infectious diseases outweigh the risks associated with chlorination and would not be enough to justify its discontinuation. In Europe, however, chorination has been discontinued in many communities.

So 1) cancer and 2) I don't know. What is wrong with the French

Yeah, what is wrong with French water? Maybe it is the bottled-water-industrial complex.

Evian, Perrier, and Vittel control the banking system.

Cerberus

I don't think other countries have corporate lobbies as strong as yours!

I also think I've tasted it in other countries, like Italy, Spain, or Greece.

SmokeDetector

04:06

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: flvto.club/other-side-hudson-moore-mp3-song-download/ by kirktinez on english.SE

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09:23

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Q: Word for cost due to risk

Is there a word or phrase for cost due to risk. For example, if my $1.000 car has a chance of breaking of 1% per ride, the cost due to risk would be $10 per ride. Example sentence: While driving to France, the [word here] was split evenly between the passengers.

single-word-requests

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12:57

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Q: I’m looking for a fancy word that mean to measure I have heard it used by educated people

Almost like to measure someone up, or to give something a measurement, could be used like to measure a personality trait, it’s not quantify and I couldn’t find it using a thesaurus search on google, please help its on the tip of my tongue and driving me nuts

single-word-requests

tchrist

13:36

May 18 '17 at 12:22, by tchrist

Mar 25 '15 at 14:22, by tchrist

Snow, snow go away
Come again no other day
Till the year is spent and gone
Let no flake conceal my lawn.

Cerberus

Hah.

A poem of your own making?

tchrist

Doggerel, quoth the dog.

Cerberus

It was 26 degrees this week.

tchrist

@Cerberus Same here, which is doubtless where the problem lies.

Cerberus

Doggerel, as in, gone and lawn aren't supposed to rhyme? I wasn't going to say anything!

Then what is the problem, if not snow?

tchrist

13:40

@Cerberus Doggerel as in a poetaster's cuff-offing drivel. But yes, they rhyme in my old, conservative dialect of English, but not in Modern Standard Southern British English.

Or so the MSSBs have me informed.

Cerberus

Cuff-off?

Ah, so no snow.

tchrist

Off the cuff.

Cerberus

Incidentally, did you see my SWR?

tchrist

@Cerberus Aye.

Cerberus

@tchrist Ah, OK, but is it yours?

tchrist

13:44

Cerberus

@tchrist Did you find it funny?

tchrist

@Cerberus Yes.

Cerberus

Funny as well.

tchrist

@Cerberus I have [gɔn] and [lɔn], but I think the Brits have [gɒn] and [lɔn]. The actors and actresses of the Holy Wood have [gɑn] and [lɑn], which I can’t even parse it’s so alien to me.

What do you have?

Just as I find it hard to consider the degree of vowel length in a phonemically distinctive way, so too do I have trouble hearing the degree of roundedness in that way. But while length is immaterial, roundedness for me is a yes/no question.

@Cerberus Not as much as I imagine you'd hoped. I'm sorry. But maybe I'm also just humor-impaired.

I was unclear as to the degree of activism you were attempting to elicit.

As you see, I'm all about degrees today.

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Q: Single word with same meaning as phrase: "Power goes to head"

I am looking to replace the [] in the sentence: The regime is showing signs of [power going to their heads]. Namely, I would like to use a single word, or two at most. A scientific-sounding noun would be great. Or if there is no such noun, I would still like to see what is the closest we ca...

single-word-requests

tchrist

13:51

My long-held position is that writing requests like ^^^^^^^^^ have no place on our site. But I know you know this.

Cui bono?

To whose benefit?

That of future visitors to our site?

Rarely, if ever.

The raison d’être for the entire Stack Exchange Network is to provide answers to questions that many will have.

And just how often shall there be future postulants in search of answers to the burning question of synonyms for "power goes to the head"?

Reference materials also have a raison d’être, and theirs is not ours. Or should not be.

So dictionaries and thesauri and lexicons and idiom wordbooks.

We have strayed from our mission.

> Ask not lest ye be answered.

Cerberus

@tchrist Yes, I suppose I have gɒn.

OED also has gɔːn, but perhaps that's old fashioned.

Lawn, however, has a long ɔː for me, I think.

Even though I agree that length isn't phonemically distinctive.

tchrist

Funny you should mention that. A Canadian linguistic ex-pat living for years in the UK feels like saying words like Ross with [ɔː] not [ɒ] is old-fashoined. I guess I'm old-fashioned then.

Cerberus

@tchrist Oh, it wasn't hilarious. I was just surprised that nobody else had posted that question.

No activism.

As you know, I dislike SWRs.

@tchrist Perhaps! I'm not sure.

tchrist

@Cerberus What is the word for asking what the word is for asking for words?

Cerberus

Exactly.

tchrist

14:07

Max-head-room is the word for power goes to the head.

When the mains do flicker, so too his head.

Cerberus

Is that Trump?

You might enjoy this: instagram.com/p/Bh8zR2slvut

"You can't train a cat but a cat can train or enslave a cat person!"

tchrist

lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/carballo/coristanco/2018/04/24/…

This is a picture of:

1. Trump’s fourth wife
2. Trump’s sister
3. Trump in drag

> El gran parecido de Dolores Leis con el presidente de los Estados Unidos se ha hecho viral en las redes sociales

Cerberus

Is cor colour?

Mitch

@Cerberus I always want to ask sarcastic questions, but then I stop because they're too much work to get right.

Cerberus

@tchrist The likeness is great indeed.

@Mitch But SWRs aren't supposed to be right.

Mitch

14:16

@tchrist did you know that, however modernistic that looked then (and I think still does), it was done entirely with makeup and prosthetics.

@Cerberus to craft it just right so that you can't tell if it is serious or not.

tchrist

@Cerberus Yes. All the quotations are in Galician which might as well be Portuguese for your purposes, even though the article is in Spanish. And Portuguese loses intervocalic L and N.

Mitch

Like "How many syllables in 'cat' ?"

Cerberus

@Mitch I think I did manage to do that, judging by the commentary?

@tchrist Yes, I noticed the Galician.

But to me the Iberian languages are all a big jumble of subtle differences that I can scarcely tell apart.

tchrist

@Cerberus Sauf Euskera. :)

terdon

@tchrist Joder!

tchrist

14:20

@Cerberus It's very hard to explain to an English monoglot what it's like to be able to read a language without knowing what language one is reading. Or even to read several languages.

@terdon ¿Viste mi pregunta sobre joder?

Cerberus

@tchrist Indeed, I meant linguistically Iberian, not geographically...

terdon

No, ¿donde?

tchrist

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Q: ¿Por qué no existe una palabra escrita «hoder» (en vez de la versión con «j-»)?

Se me ocurre que el verbo e interjección malsonante joder parece ser una excepción a la regla (o más bien, a la ley) que nos dice que cada palabra (que no sea cultismo) que en latín comienza una f‑ + VOCAL se ha convertido en h‑ en castellano moderno. Por ejemplo: fūmus > humo, furnus > horno, fi...

etimología historia pronunciación fonología latín

Mitch

@Cerberus Out of many many comments, it looks like only two actually got the joke, lbf and...well I can't tell.

Cerberus

@tchrist But this monoglot might understand if you compared it to hearing a dialect of English without knowing whence?

@Mitch Yes, and perhaps Lawler.

tchrist

14:22

@Cerberus Indeed.

Cerberus

But he is not one to engage in humour himself.

tchrist

It's probably Scottish. :)

Mitch

@Cerberus hm..I thought his was the one most serious. but then that can sometimes just be extending the joke.

Cerberus

Yeah.

tchrist

> Penitenziagite! Vide quando draco venturus est a
rodegarla l’anima tua! La mortz est super nos! Prega
che vene lo papa santo a liberar nos a malo de todas
le peccata! Ah ah, ve piase ista negromanzia de Domini
Nostri Iesu Christi! Et anco jois m’es dols e plazer
m’es dolors... Cave el diabolo! Semper m’aguaita in
qualche canto per adentarme le carcagna. Ma Salvatore
non est insipiens! Bonum monasterium, et aqui se magna
et se priega dominum nostrum. Et el resto valet un figo
seco. Et amen. No?

terdon

14:26

@tchrist Interesante, si! The answer makes a lot of sense too. You need to be able to emphasize that first j properly!

tchrist

@Cerberus It's like reading that ^^^^^. You can read it but you can't quite say what you're reading.

terdon

Also, chocho was around in the 18th century? Huh!

tchrist

Words of old.

I think it's cool that he used foreigner-dictionaries to find old citations.

Since native ones it was too taboo for.

When I read Galician like the quotes in that article, it barely registers that I'm not reading Portuguese.

It does register that it's not quite Castilian, but not the other.

The lexicon is Portuguese, so lixo for example.

La voz de Galicia doesn't even bother to translate because its readership is diglossic.

Mostly Galician looks like Portuguese spelled like Spanish rather than like Catalan.

Which is like Occitan.

Portuguese and Catalan adopted Occitan spelling conventions long, long ago when their troubadours were held in such high esteem.

Call it Provençal spelling if you will, but never provincial. :)

Oclangers all.

> «Miro todo o que me ensinan as fillas, pero nunca me picou a curiosidade por ter un. Elas din que vou ser famosa por esta foto, pero eu diso non entendo nada», opina.

> «Mi madriña, a miña foto vai ben lonxe. Eu digo que será pola cor do pelo», explicaba ayer por la tarde entre risas la protagonista, a la que todos sus vecinos conocen como Dolores de Belo, en su casa del lugar cabanés de Os Martices, a donde la noticia, como no, también ha llegado. «Ai, se fósemos familia de Donald Trump», bromea su hija Ana.

Galician has all those contractions.

"pola", "diso"

I wonder whether the Italians say la mia foto.

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Do you consider yourself Persian or Azeri or something else? This is of course in re the internet:

Simplified #history: #Iran was used to be called #Persia before 1935. This #map shows the percentages of Persians in provinces of Iran today. Source: https://buff.ly/2F4HWgR

Tweeted by simongerman600 on April 22, 2018 at 4:15 PM

(since no one iives in Dasht-e-Lut, that 97.4 is like 97 people and a baby)

(and that 90.3 around Mashhad, I wonder if the leftover is all Afghans, who are, at least the western ones, pretty much Persian)

@Gigili Wait, what?

Feeds

15:53

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Q: Generic word for describing a tournament or league

Im in the middle of designing my database schema and Im looking for a generic word to use for something that could be either a tournament or a league. Examples Tournament - Fifa World Cup 2018 League - Premier League I have a generic database model where one column currently is named Tournam...

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17:03

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Q: Verb to replace "set bounds"

I'm developing some GUI software and I want to mean that this widget bounds/edges are attached to some boundary structure, something like: bounds = { .left = 0, .top = 0, .right: 320, .bottom: 240 }; widget.set_bounds(bounds); I want to avoid the set word. I have thought of widget.bind but I'...

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch I'm Azeri and an Iranian

I know the Persian language, but wouldn't consider myself Persian

CowperKettle

Good evening

I know the Russian language but wouldn't consider myself Persian.

How do I call these numbered points in a procedure description?

In the point numbered 8, the sentence says "Wash the plate as described in paragraph? point? section? 5.

Another April day in Yekaterinburg, Russia

caub

17:23

What's the best term for "changing coordinates from one basis to another"

particularly for the context of colors, like from rgb to hsl, what verb would best fit for that?

CowperKettle

Maybe converting the coordinates from one space to another?

caub

thanks, a good one

CowperKettle

You're welcome, Little Lizard

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I know the English language but wouldn't consider myself... well, I don't really know but I'm pretty sure it's all English. Irish, Scottish, Welsh. With I'm sure a stray Dane, and a pirate or two.

caub

CowperKettle

17:35

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Q: An assumption for a scenario that is typically true in practice

Which adjective in the sense of 'typically true, safe to assume' fits into the following sentence: The crucial but _______ assumption for our experiment is that the steel sample does not contain more than 2% carbon.

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Q: What is the opposite of a multi-tribal society?

What is the opposite of a multi-tribal society? a nation? a modern society? a national society? or ...?

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19:23

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Q: what term to use to refer to a late husbands last name after marrying again and taking the new husbands name

When I married my first husband I took his name and used the term "nee" to quickly refer to my birth name. After my first husband died, I remarried and took my new husbands last name. Now I want to know what term to use to refer to my first husbands last name, similar to how I would have used t...

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Mitch

19:49

@caub the linear algebra way is to say 'transform' as in 'linear transformation'

Færd

21:31

> LONDON -- Iran is moving 'very quickly' toward production of a nuclear bomb and could have such a weapon within two years, the authoritative Jane's Defence Weekly reported today.
Jane's quoted news reports as saying production on Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's nuclear bomb was 'entering its final stages,' and that construction would follow completion of a nuclear power plant being built with the help of West German experts.

(United Press International, April 24, 1984)

Thirty-fucking-four years ago.

caub

22:23

@Mitch thanks I was thinking of this, and happy of this confirmation (it's for renaming my module github.com/caub/color-tf)

SmokeDetector

23:24

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Are there too many commas in this sentence? by poop on english.SE

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