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Robusto

13:08

@Mitch You probably have heard many more modal pieces than you know. Lots of modern popular music uses modes, as does jazz etc.

Robusto

13:20

user76935

89 4

This guy is polluting our site with stupid questions.

Mitch

13:41

What do you call someone who asks lots of questions about what to call people in a thinly veiled attempt to blame others for ones own shortcomings?" — Mitch 20 secs ago

Robusto

That about sums it up.

We should let it be known that we are not his diatribe monkeys.

Matt Эллен

ook?

KitFox

Close all his questions then.

All of them.

Robusto

The problem is, on their own the questions seem no worse than any of the others we get here. It is only in the aggregate that the pattern emerges.

KitFox

Right, but all of those SWRs should be closed.

without malice, without exception, without hesitation

Robusto

13:54

Well, you're a mod. I'm just a user.

KitFox

You have a vote.

Several.

Matt Эллен

yes, it should be community lead

Robusto

What close reason works for this case? Seriously, I can't find one that exactly fits.

Matt Эллен

primarily opinion based?

KitFox

How about, check a thesaurus.

Matt Эллен

13:55

or that

KitFox

How about "improving your vocabulary is not on-topic".

Ask in chat.

Let's make a SWR room.

Shall we?

...

Oh dear. I seem to be on a tear.

steps away from the mod console

Robusto

@KitFox I think it's more about "facilitating the venting of your spleen is not on-topic" . . .

KitFox

I meant as a general rule about SWRs.

Robusto

Facilitating the venting of one's spleen is not on-topic.

KitFox

But yes, that applies here in this instance, yes.

I think I should take a shower and brew some tea.

I got a new one today.

An oolong.

I just like to say it. Oolong. Ooooolong. Ooooooooolong.

Oolong.

I wonder if that's "five dragons."

!!define oolong

KitSox

14:00

@KitFox oolong A partially fermented tea which combines the characteristics of green tea and black tea.

KitFox

Oh, black dragon. Actually, I knew that.

Robusto

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Q: What do you call someone who asks lots of questions about what to call people in a thinly veiled attempt to blame others for ones own shortcomings?

One word. Someone who asks a lot of questions in order to expand his vocabulary related to certain patterns of human behaviour, especially those of a malicious nature.

word-choice single-word-requests

There he goes again.

It's clear he's trolling. I nominate him for an IP ban.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a sock puppet in this very chat.

KitFox

(dramatic music)

How do I write that?

Dun dun dun.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:18

@Rob I want to make a Raspberry Pi Linux box and use it to grep EC lyrics.

I think this is a good use of my time.

grep 'lipstick' 'powder' returns 'girls talk' and 'you little fool'

KitFox

charlatain charlatan

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I wonder if you can get the complete lyrics in a text file, or at least XML.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:33

@Robusto maybe they can be pulled from elviscostello.info.

Robusto

Dunno. I suppose you could just download the English language.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Heh.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I saw him on his Blood & Chocolate tour, in which he debuted the Spectacular Spinning Songbook. I didn't get a chance to spin the wheel, however.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto !_! I'll have to look that up.

Robusto

japanese got jesus robots telling teenage fortunes / for all we know and all we care they might as well be martians

terdon

14:40

Ummm . . . you. — Robusto 38 mins ago

Well said!

Robusto

bows

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Ha!

Robusto

> Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise.

I could do without the comma after opinions.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

OMG, OMG, the wedding part 2 has hit my Hulu.

Andy

That's just, like, your opinion, man

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:45

@Andy :D

Johan Larsson

@Andy *>

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I know nothing of this or its forebear.

KitFox

@Robusto It's fine.

glowers

Robusto

If by fine you mean superfluous, then OK.

> Two thousand years of theology reduced to a battery-operated toy.

KitFox

Yes.

Robusto

14:48

I'm speaking, of course, about "Tokyo Storm Warning" from EC's Blood & Chocolate album.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者: I played a Fender Telecaster on most of the cuts. This lent a harsher edge to the guitar parts as the intro figure of "Uncomplicated" demonstrates.

KitFox

What's Andy doing here?

frowns, looks mysterious

Robusto

You could hardly look more mysterious than Andy's gravatar.

KitFox

frowns, looks cross

I

am

BROODY!

Robusto

I get that.

KitFox

Oh.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

15:00

@Robusto nice.

Gigili

hellow

Robusto

> "Seven Day Weekend" was written and recorded with Jimmy Cliff and The Attractions (!) for a film called Club Paradise, starring Peter O'Toole, Robin Williams, and Twiggy. Oh, the horror. I don't suppose either the film or the song will go down in history, but Jimmy is a great man, and I did get to play a lot of very loud guitar.

KitFox

I remember going to Jimmy Cliff concert.

I don't remember leaving it.

Matt Эллен

!!youtube nerdfolio amazing horse

KitSox

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Robusto

15:04

Wow, someone's selling a copy of Blood & Chocolate for $2,399.

I wonder how it could ever be that special. Same songs, CD quality . . . what am I missing?

Andy

The only album worth that much money is the one i'm going to record. One track, a tribute to John Cage (a cover song)

Matt Эллен

maybe they were told to sell it but didn't want to so they complied in a facetious manner

Andy

Taking preorders now, for 50% off. That's just over $1,000, a bargain at twice the price!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto it comes with a sperm sample?

Robusto

Feb 21 '11 at 14:12, by Robusto

When he heard about this piece, Igor Stravinsky said he hoped Mr. Cage would marshall his energies and produce a work of "major length" in the same style.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I would ask for the price to be lowered in such a case.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

15:08

@Robusto Whenever I see 'Stravinsky' I hear it in the voice of Terry Bozzio.

And I ponder the fluidity of Jeff Beck.

Robusto

Jun 29 '13 at 16:54, by Robusto

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gtg, dr. appt. ltrz.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto bst wshs

Andy

for real, though, i accept cash, checks, and large, high quality fossils of equal or greater value.

terdon

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Whaaa?

Oh! The zappa skit?

Was that Bozzio doing the devil's voice?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

15:27

@terdon HA! Yes!

terdon

:) Love that dialog.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:D

Even her boots?

terdon

:)

And all the beer?

Which is the one where he threatens to call the American embassy? And then explains that he'll call them a barrel of motherfuckers?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Were the cans this tall?

@terdon um, oh dear.

Room Service

terdon

That one always cracks me up. Something to do with a hotel

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes!

KitFox

15:34

?

terdon

@KitFox Yup :)

Wow. Just wow. I hadn't heard this one:

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KitFox

16:25

ooooolong

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox That's what she said.

KitFox

:)

I was about to do the writing exercise I missed, so I can finally read everybody else's.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Yay!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

16:46

@Robusto Just made it to the beginning of chapter three, and I dig.

KitFox

17:00

Which...oh. Um. Oh.

Andy

17:15

saw 'oh. um. oh.' and immediately began reciting latin second declensions in my head. i hate myself sometimes.

KitFox

Poor Andy.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Nice!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

17:34

@Andy there are far worse reasons to hate oneself.

@Robusto appt gd?

Robusto

it ws ok

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

k

KitFox

Do you have gangrene? IS YOUR LEG GOING TO FALL OFF?

Robusto

Let's hope not.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Is anything going to fall off?

Robusto

17:43

2 mins ago, by Robusto

Let's hope not.

KitFox

Well, with all those supermodels in your future, something might fall off.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

His bad cholesterol from all the exercise?

Robusto

Hmm. If I'm doing it right, yeah.

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Hah, on King of America EC names that song "Don't Let Me Be Understood" . . .

Cerberus

Morning!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It's 1PM!

Robusto

17:55

In what sense do you mean morning?

Jinx!

It's even later in Amsterdam.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It's become much too much.

Robusto

speak double dutch to a real double duchess

Cerberus

You know I like to mess up your days!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Haudoe!

Cerberus

Houdoe!

It's what they say in the south.

Robusto

17:56

Hodor!

Cerberus

Maybe it's related to howdy...

Hodor?

Robusto

Game of Thrones reference.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Cerberus ah, that's why the transcript couldn't find it.

Cerberus

@Robusto Ah I stopped watching after the second season.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Prostitutes use the hodor.

Cerberus

17:57

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Don't worry, Dutchmen also often confuse ou and au.

I only know the chador.

Robusto

@Cerberus Hodor appeared on your watch.

Cerberus

Are you saying I stink??

I licked everything clean, I swear!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

You were clean 20 minutes ago. Now you're just on vacation.

Johan Larsson

> But if you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields.

Cerberus

Hmm...

Johan Larsson

18:05

So hot today, had to listen to some reaggae.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:D

Robusto

@JohanLarsson How hot was it?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

5 mins ago, by Johan Larsson

So hot today, had to listen to some reaggae.

Johan Larsson

@Robusto felt like 25 Celsius

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 That could be any temp.

Johan Larsson

18:12

reggae is for summer no?

Robusto

@JohanLarsson Your idea of hot? That's adorable.

@JohanLarsson It's alluz summah in Jamaica, mon.

Johan Larsson

you been there?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It gets to 40C here.

Johan Larsson

dunno what music is right for that

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Cool jazz.

terdon

18:14

@JohanLarsson You call that hot? Wow!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Icehouse. Vanilla Ice. Kool and the Gang.

terdon

Ice ice baby? Wow, that takes me back a while.

Johan Larsson

@terdon ok relatively hot, first week we had summer here

also I live pretty close to the pole

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Ice-T, Ice Cube.

terdon

@JohanLarsson I guessed as much :) I grew up in Greece, 25 is the upper range of chilly.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

18:15

My prediction: @Rob is looking for some cool jazz.

Robusto

I wish. I have a 2-hr. meeting in the offing. Meh.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Blarg. We are closing in 45.

Gonna go raid a Half Price Books even though I have 100+ pages left in Vineland, an e-book to read, and a copy of Infinite Jest.

terdon

Hmm, compromise then:

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Jazzy reggae!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@terdon nice!

terdon

Yeah, I love that guy, great sound.

Johan Larsson

18:18

codehunt.com

@terdon nice ty

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson whoa!

Johan Larsson

yeah it is ugly but fun

at least I enjoyed the first ten minutes of playing

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Oh! It reminds me of Hypnotized.

But Hypnotized is probably newer.

!!youtube fleetwood mac hypnotized

KitSox

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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitSox thanks, hun.

Johan Larsson

18:29

I can't think of anything better than a Friday night in chat with music links posted :)

KitFox

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Thank you.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson yay!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

18:52

@Robusto have you read Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy?

Robusto

I have not.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Okay.

It's almost entirely discussion.

@Robusto I found a typo at the end of 3.

BTW, I'm at the end of 3.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hmm . . . looks like Corportion instead of Corporation, yeah?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto That's the one!

Robusto

Thank you for pointing that out.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

19:02

You are quite welcome.

Ahh, it's quittin' time.

slides down brontosaurus

BBL

Robusto

CU

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson Poor you! It was about 23 here, also hot, especially inside or in the sun.

@Robusto You people have A/C and you go everywhere by car! Then heat doesn't matter!

Robusto

@Cerberus I don't have A/C.

Cerberus

Oh...

Why not? I would love to have it.

I may have it installed myself...

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Felt like about 25°C here today, too. I don’t mind, that’s perfect. Been sweating like a pig all day, though, ’cause I started out with two and a half hours at the gym (which doesn’t have A/C, either). Never quite managed to get my body temperature back down after that.

Cerberus

19:12

Oh, my.

You don't mind sweating?

Janus Bahs Jacquet

I hate sweating. But I brought it on myself today—if I hadn’t gone to the gym this morning, I would only have been pleasantly hot all day, rather than boiling like an overzealous kettle.

Cerberus

I recognise this effect, but does it really last all day for you?

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Not normally, no … but when it’s so hot, not only is the effect itself amplified, the continuing heat throughout the day means the effect doesn’t go away properly, either.

KitFox

Did you try drinking lukewarm water?

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Wasn’t till I got home after work and school and lay down on the bed for a while that I started cooling off.

@KitFox I did, but only because it had been in my bag for a few hours (yech).

Drinking hot tea tends to help, but I didn’t have any available.

Cerberus

19:27

@JanusBahsJacquet Hmm I've never had that last for more than an hour or so, I think.

Poor you!

Hot tea does not work for me, I never understood that supposed mechanism.

KitFox

It makes your blood vessels constrict.

Essentially.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Me neither … but it works as well as, if not better than, ice cream or cold lemonade. Just doesn’t taste quite as yummy.

KitFox

Cold stuff will have the opposite effect.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus still had a sauna of course :)

Cerberus

@KitFox I don't know, it just makes me sweat. I notice, because I normally drink hot tea all day, but on very hot days I have to stop.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

19:31

Waaah, sauna in this heat? I leave that to the Finns. I only do sauna when it’s cooler.

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson Haha you crazy Swede!

@KitFox I mean, I'm sure there is something to it, but it just doesn't work for me in practice.

Maybe the effect of the constriction is limited by other factors that vary between bodies?

Johan Larsson

19:48

dirty talk again? can't tell

Cerberus

Haha no!

At least that was not my intention.

Stack Exchange

Limerick Machine: Sitting in bed with an owl A man rapped his head in a towel He’d mistakenly heard You’…

posted on May 23, 2014 by sgdi

Sitting in bed with an owl A man rapped his head in a towel He’d mistakenly heard You’d discourage a bird By wearing a towel as a cowl

Robusto

@JanusBahsJacquet Are you in Sweden too?

Janus Bahs Jacquet

@Robusto No, next door—Copenhagen

@StackExchange How do you rap your head in a towel?!

Robusto

Ah. So you're a southern lad.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

19:57

From the Swedish viewpoint—not from many others

Matt Эллен

@JanusBahsJacquet oh pshaw.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Pshaw?

Matt Эллен

yes

pshaw

anyway, I've fixed it, thanks. not that rss feed will let us know

Janus Bahs Jacquet

Oh. That.

I thought you were pshawing at me only being a southern boy to the Swedes (and their ilk).

Matt Эллен

oh! no :D

RegDwigнt

20:07

@tchrist - Thanks for your officious response. — Erik Kowal 21 hours ago

Off to look up officious.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

@RegDwigнt Just means he thinks tchrist is in the office is all.

A giggly gaggle of wiggly girls are having a babbly party with wobbly dancing all over the place in the flat just across the street from me, and they keep taking pictures with point-and-shoot camera flashes all the time. Such bright, very flash, much annoy. Wow. :-/

Johan Larsson

@Matt did you get the sample to work?

Matt Эллен

@JohanLarsson I haven't tried it, sorry.

Johan Larsson

don't be sorry my friend, I will not stop harassing you with random stuff though :)

Matt Эллен

20:23

:D good, good

Cerberus

Is it acceptable to tell a date that you are no longer interested per Whatsapp?

Matt Эллен

I guess

is that how you normally communicate with them?

Johan Larsson

whats whatsapp?

Matt Эллен

!!wiki whatsapp

KitSox

WhatsApp Messenger is a proprietary, cross-platform instant messaging subscription service for smartphones that uses the internet for communication. In addition to text messaging, users can send each other images, video, and audio media messages as well as their location using integrated mapping features. The client software is available for Google Android, BlackBerry OS, Apple iOS, selected Nokia Series 40, Symbian, selected Nokia Asha platform, Microsoft Windows Phone and BlackBerry 10. WhatsApp Inc. was founded in 2009 by US Citizens Brian Acton and Jan Koum (also the CEO), both fo...

Cerberus

20:37

@MattЭллен Yes, it is.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus shouldn't be a problem, if it's been casual up to now anyway

Cerberus

@MattЭллен OK thanks!

Matt Эллен

:D no probs

Cerberus

We have met twice, drank a couple of beers but nothing else.

@JohanLarsson I thought you had a smartphone by now?

Matt Эллен

I can't fit whatsapp on mine without deleting a bunch of stuff or rooting the phone

Cerberus

20:40

Oh no!

Time to root it, then...

Matt Эллен

:D

time to get a better phone!

Cerberus

Or buy a modern phone for a hundred pounds or so.

Yay!

Matt Эллен

but I'll see. I'm thinking of getting a nexus 7

Cerberus

But you need a phone first!

Matt Эллен

but I need a new mobo (and probably heatsink and maybe cpu)

Cerberus

20:41

Ah, yes.

Stupid electronics, not doing what we want!

Matt Эллен

yeah

tell that to the people I work with :D they design electronics and they still don't do what we want!

Cerberus

(The thing is also, what's the alternative? Over the phone? I would prefer to be let's-be-friendsed by text, so that I can swallow the humiliation in private. Except if we'd been dating for a while, then we'd have had to meet in person.)

@MattЭллен How is that possible!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus (that's what I was thinking)

@Cerberus I know! electronics are hard

Cerberus

(OK good to know we agree!)

They are.

I am constantly tempted to buy a phone with more than 1 GB of RAM.

But I can't justify the purchase.

By the way, you can get a second-hand Nexus 7 for about 70 pounds on Ebay.

I looked it up the other day.

Matt Эллен

I don't need more RAM just more storage space. I don't do a lot of stuff

@Cerberus oh! nice

Cerberus

20:44

Yes, your predicament is direr than mine.

@MattЭллен ebay.nl/itm/…

For example.

That one should come down to about 70 pounds including shipping and tariffs.

Matt Эллен

have you changed your ebay PW, by the way?

Cerberus

I'm not sure.

Matt Эллен

I changed mine yesterday

Cerberus

I tried to change it a few days ago.

Matt Эллен

it might have been compromised!

in March

or something

Cerberus

20:46

I know.

I did it immediately as I saw the news, before it was on the big tech sites.

But it said "cannot change password into an earlier used password" with every password I tried.

Matt Эллен

weird

Cerberus

I tried to change it into two passwords, and I wasn't sure what my previous password was again.

Super annoying, all those leaks.

I still have to change some other sites after Kickstarter was compromised a few months ago.

But it is just too much work, I'll just make new accounts whenever mine are stolen or something.

So would you consider buying a second-hand N7 off Ebay?

Matt Эллен

I'm not sure what I want to spend

I was just bidding on one at £72 but it's shot up over £90 already

maybe I'll go up to £120

ok, £114.23

we'll see. I imagine I'll be out bid soon

Cerberus

But the one I linked to should amount to 70 instant-buy.

Maybe 80.

Matt Эллен

but it was all Dutch. I couldn't understand what I was paying

and why are your prices in $?

Cerberus

20:55

@MattЭллен ebay.co.uk/itm/…

Because it has to be shipped from America, where everything is cheap.

It is only 8GB, though.

Matt Эллен

cheap but... 8GB I'd rather pay more and get 16GB

Cerberus

ebay.co.uk/itm/Nexus-7-16GB-Wi-Fi-7in-Black-1st-Generation-/…

Almost the same price, 16GB.

Should be about 75 pounds total.

Janus Bahs Jacquet

@Cerberus Not if you’re actually still on a date with them.

Matt Эллен

yeah. cool. I'll watch it and see

Cerberus

And it's "buy it now"...although I don't want to encourage consumerism, of course...

@MattЭллен See what?

Johan Larsson

20:59

@Cerberus nope, broken nokia, two buttons are gone. Writing text messages requires some strategy :)

also dialing many numbers is impossible :D

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus if I want it. I'm slow to make decisions

Cerberus

@JanusBahsJacquet Ohhh OK, good point!

@MattЭллен Ah OK good!

Same here.

Matt Эллен

:D

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson Ahh haha great!

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