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@Robusto They run the rarer badges' look-and-reward script with less frequency than the common ones. I think those you're talking about usually take up to an hour or maybe even two.
Resumptive pronoun of the day, from a conversation I just had: "So now we have tunnels that, when they close, the entire city stops working."
(This is one of 'em "adjunct island" ones.)
00:36
Hmm yeah, that one is a bit harder to fix, a more understandable anacoluthon.
Let's hope that's Dumbo.
01:40
TIL that some people in the South pronounce cement as /ˈsi.mɛnt/. Perfect for building your /ˈhoʊ.tɛl/.
@alphabet I thought it was "see meant"?
02:36
@alphabet there's a whole slew of words with al different stress like that PO-lice, IN-surance, UM-brella, GUI-tar
Add in the twang and you'll be an extra on the Dukes of Hazzard
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@tchrist that sounds like good news to me
03:57
> We provide an automated, interpretable measure that can potentially be used to quantify speech disorganization in schizophrenia. Our findings directly link the clinical phenomenology of thought disorder to neurocognitive constructs that are grounded in psycholinguistic theory and neurobiology.
 
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Now it feels worse compared to 47 C temperature in May, because of more humidity.
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> Xiaomi's self-optimizing autonomous factory will make 10M+ phones a year
@Vikas I'm very sorry!
It's hot here too, +27 now
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, potentially bad asn for hostname in body, potentially problematic ns configuration in body (96): Has anyone used Pregabalin 300 effectively to relieve nerve pain or anxiety? Describe your experiences‭ by luna rose‭ on english.SE
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@CowperKettle That's the temperature my air conditioner is currently set to 🤣
07:25
Shouldn't people just scroll past a question if they don't understand what it's really asking? There's a fine line between a misunderstanding and just condescension. I feel like people want to find odds and ends, nothing major, but a Walmart associate really wants to clock out on time, so they can't really help you with whatever stupid thing you just said. So they just spit at you like that dino into the Jeep on Jurassic Park. Bllaaahhhh! Bblllaaaahhhh! Or however you spell it.
I'm really upset that I learned all those dino names for nothin'… That's about it.
 
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@CowperKettle there are several false equivalences there. While the points the article makes are good, the overall tone leaves something to be desired. It sounds a bit like a heckler's.
Obviously you can both work on imporving SSRIs and social issues that exaderbate depression.
 
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> Imagine an alt-history in which Reagan was actually a leftist who opposed consumerism:
“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this mall!”
@M.A.R. Yes
 
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@SmokeDetector I used gabapentin and felt nothing. I used pregabalin and found it pleasant, back in 2010, but it did not stop my odd sensations in the left side of the body.
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You just need more digits. :/
At least we can escape to the heights here, if work permits.
Boulder is on the eastern edge of the Rockies, Grand Junction is four hours' drive from here across the state on the western edge of the Rockies near Utah where it's far drier than here, and Denver is east of the mountains by maybe half an hour or an hour's drive.
SOme places have it far worse, mind you.
Las Vegas, the one in Nevada not the one in New Mexico, is positively melting down with temperatures far far above ours.
There they're calling for +118℉ today as a high, and only +90℉ as a low.
We can take care of ourselves here when it's up around human body temperature like it will be here for the next five or six days. But that's too much higher. People will die.
@Robusto I'm a little surprised that you will be cooler than we will for the next few days. Not sure how that works.
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@tchrist Who knows? I'm just grateful that our humidity went away. I don't feel overheated at all when riding, which I did a couple weeks ago. That was brutal.
My phone has a "Health & Fitness" app that I was exploring idly this morning during breakfast. There was a section titled "Cycle Tracking" and, being an avid cyclist, I clicked on it. I was presented with a monthly calendar and the question "When was your last period?"
@Robusto God.
@tchrist This stuff doesn't happen once I've had enough coffee in me.
I really didn't like that weird humidity.
Who does?
It definitely feels alien out here.
I seem to keep getting a little too much sun even though I'm well-lathered. Couple days back I forgot to do the top of my back beneath my non-UV-proof shirt and got a bit of a burn because I was out from 1 till 4 when the sun's the worst.
13:50
Yeah. I do my outside things (cycling, hiking, walking) from about 8 till 11. Even so, I still tan through my sunscreen. Not badly, but definitely noticeable.
I was up to the tundra in Indian Peaks Wilderness again this past weekend. It's drop dead gorgeous up there right now, beautiful beyond description.
@tchrist Pix?
@tchrist This is cool
Those are tarns, seasonal pools in the permafrost.
13:53
@tchrist Gorgeous.
> It was night, in the lonesome October
Of my most immemorial year:
It was hard by the dim lake of Auber,
In the misty mid region of Weir-
It was down by the dank tarn of Auber,
In the ghoul-haunted woodland of Weir.
A great specimen of the Rosy-headed one-leave
Four species of orchids, three of violets, three of delphinium, two of bluebells, shooting stars and monkshood and avalanche lily and sky pilot and purple fringe and monkeyflower and old man of the mountain (tundra sunflower) and much more.
Great find.
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Кали́псо (лат. Calypso) — монотипный род многолетних травянистых растений семейства Орхидные. Единственный вид — калипсо клубнева́я, или калипсо лу́ковичная (лат. Calypso bulbosa); редкое растение, внесённое в Красную книгу России. Своё научное название род получил по имени нимфы Калипсо из древнегреческих мифов. Видовой эпитет вида Calypso bulbosa связан с запасающим органом, находящимся в основании стебля (bulbus — «луковица»). Различия в переводе видового эпитета на русский язык («клубневая» и «луковичная») связаны с различными взглядами на то, какой термин правильнее применять к данному органу...
Called callypso
According to Google Images
@CowperKettle That's the fairyslipper orchid, Calypso bulbosa, which you should have too because it's circumboreal. And why is the lady Calypso bulbosa? Please do not ask her; it's indecent.
Odysseus's fault, no doubt.
I found them blooming in three places.
Also the little white orchid called Lady's Tresses, and the red saprophytic one called Coralroot.
That's Old Man of the Mountain, a giant sunflower native to the tundra. It's never more than 3 or 4 inches tall. Nothing is, in the tundra. Most everything is only a few millimeters tall there.
That's Aconite, commonly called monkshood, medievally called wolfsbane. Don't eat it.
That's little pink elephants, Pedicularis groenlandica.
Looks like your bit of sunburn was well earned.
Those marsh marigolds are early spring flowers, just now blooming at timberline and beyond.
Well, not beyond. They aren't tundra flowers.
That's a common tundra flower: moss campion, Silene acaulis. @CowperKettle also has that, at least in the high arctic, as it too is circumboreal.
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@tchrist The Rocky Mountain version of the edelweiss?
No, the Rocky Mountion version of trout ily from back East. Avalanche lily, or glacier lily. Blooms at the edge of the snowfields as they retreat.
Erythronium grandiflorum is a North American species of plants in the lily family. It is known by several common names, including yellow avalanche lily, glacier lily, and dogtooth fawn lily. The Ktunaxa name for glacier lily is maxa. == Description == Erythronium grandiflorum grows from a deep bulb (or corm) which is 3 to 5 centimeters wide. Its two green leaves are wavy-edged and up to 20 centimeters long. The stalk may reach 30 centimeters tall and bearss one to three showy flowers. Each flower has bright lemon yellow petals, white stamens with large white to yellow to red anthers, and a white...
That's alpine aster.
That's skypilot.
Polemonium eximium, the skypilot or showy sky pilot, is a perennial plant in the phlox family (Polemoniaceae) that grows at high altitudes (mostly above 10,000 feet (3,000 m)). It is endemic to the Sierra Nevada in California where it grows in the talus of the high mountain slopes. Wildflower enthusiasts consider it to be among the best of the Sierra wildflowers, and highly rewarding to find. == Habitat and range == It mostly occurs at elevations from 10,000 to 14,000 feet (3,000 to 4,300 m) in the Central and Southern Sierra Nevada. It mostly occurs in colonies in stark surroundings, above 10...
The subalpine delphinium. swcoloradowildflowers.com/…
That's the Lady's Tresses orchid. It has close cousins in Eurasia.
Spiranthes diluvialis is a rare species of orchid known as Ute lady's tresses (also, Ute ladies'-tresses). The species name diluvialis means "of the flood". It is native to the western United States, where there are scattered, mostly small occurrences in the states of Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. An occurrence was recently discovered in southern British Columbia. The plant faces a number of threats to its existence. It is a federally listed threatened species of the United States. == Taxonomy == Specimens of this orchid were first collected in 1856...
@tchrist I know the word campion from a poem I know by heart by J.M. Hopkins, but I constantly forget its name in Russian
Ah. Smolyovka (Смолёвка)
Up in the Wilderness many of these can be found in thick fields of nothing but wildflowers. It's heady stuff.
Silene acaulis, known as moss campion or cushion pink, is a small wildflower that is common all over the high arctic and tundra and in high mountains of Eurasia and North America (Alps, Carpathians, southern Siberia, Pyrenees, British Isles, Iceland, Faroe Islands, Greenland, Rocky Mountains). It is an evergreen perennial flowering plant in the carnation family Caryophyllaceae. It is also called the compass plant, since the flowers appear first on the south side of the cushion. (Various other plants also have this name.) == Description == Moss campion is a low, ground-hugging plant. It may seem...
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@tchrist: Your idiot Republican self-appointed Joan of Arc is literally beyond stupid.
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@tchrist oh, you're telling me they're good for more than skipping homework and generating porn?
I approve though. Fuck the insurer scum.
@M.A.R. Aye. Who am I to complain if one answers one madness with another?
The insurers' evil makes even the moneylenders in the temple seem like holy saints.
@M.A.R. Until the insurers regain the upper hand by using LLMs to write prior auth rejections.
 
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#WhenTaken #135 (11.07.2024)

I scored 673/1000 🎉

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2️⃣ 📍 13 km - 🗓️ 21 yrs - ⚡ 150 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 656.7 metres - 🗓️ 25 yrs - ⚡ 135 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 5815 km - 🗓️ 21 yrs - ⚡ 68 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 3502 km - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 126 / 200

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<sarcasm>That went well.</sarcasm>
A spoon full of sarcasm helps the medicine go down.
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A: Are there other proposed translations of "aelfheres" in Beowulf than a name?

tchristIn J.R.R. Tolkien’s prose translation of Beowulf, those lines he translated this way: In one alone of them the heart was moved with grief. Kinship may nothing set aside in virtuous mind. Wiglaf was he called, Wihstan’s son, that fair warrior beneath his shield, a lord of Scylfing race of Ælfher...

And yes, Tolkien there spelt the word vizored with a z not with an s.
@tchrist Weird.
He could have been thinking of wizened as he wrote. Stranger things have happened to me.
18:23
@Robusto No, either is acceptable.
@tchrist Yes, back in the OE days, everyone had a name that "meant something" (Ælfwynn: "Elf friend"; Godgifu: Good (or God's) Gift, etc.) But it is doubtful that contemporaneous people gave that much thought.
@Robusto Certainly not. Even Alfred has become impenetrable to most.
No more than people today think about the origins of Alvin or Godiva.
"At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer."
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@MetaEd Right. Because all software is perfect.
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Is this right? victoryediting.com/…
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@user85795 You can have a spoonful of sugar without the presence of a spoon.
Copilot needs a lot of improvement. It answers many of the things which I can't find on Google at all. But sometimes its one response contradicts the other. And when you tell it to clarify, it will keep apologizing and keep repeating same responses.
For example, I discussed something with it. I will simplify it with an example. I ask what does box A contain. It says X and Y. Then I confirm that there are only two things in this box right? It would say yes. The X and Y. Then I would say it contains Z too according to other sources. Making total three things.
Then it will say, oh yeah you're right it contains Z.
Then I will say so you agree it contains 3 things, not 2 right?
At that moment rather than clarifying confusion, it will copy paste the older X and Y response and say there are only two things.
It basically means it's far behind from human intelligence or common sense.
19:29
@Vikas All these LLMs can do really amazing things (especially in comparison to 2022 and before), but that doesn't mean it can do everything, or even lots of things, well.
It's amazing that it can do some math and some logic, entirely based on word association frequencies.
But like you said it really can't be expected to have common sense or full human intelligence, especially since its input was just strings of text, not a lived experience. Lots of things that are obvious to us would just not be likely output of an LLM because it didn't have the data of real world limitations/suggestions.
Everyone's expectations were that these LLMs were a total solution for AI (just use it for a few minutes and it's amazing) and the corporations who want to make money from you are happy to help you continue thinking that way. But use them for a few more minutes and you'll notice lots of problems.
They're a great writing -and- programming tool but they're not -perfect-.
@Robusto And a spoon full of sugar is not a measurement, just a statement of a situation.
@Vikas AI is a genie in a bottle that gives you stickers instead of candy. And then it kicks you into the sea.
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> “It’s not unusual to discover a neurodevelopmental disorder, but it is incredibly unusual to discover one that is this common,” said Nicola Whiffin, an associate professor at the Big Data Institute and Centre for Human Genetics at the University of Oxford. “This is surprisingly frequent. There are a lot of questions as to why we haven’t seen this before.”
> Mutations in the gene are estimated to account for nearly 0.5% of all neurodevelopmental disorders globally, a small proportion but one that amounts to hundreds of thousands of people. Details are published in Nature.
@CowperKettle Which neurodevelopmental disorder? YOu're leaving me hanging man! Do I have to read the article?
It's not that thing I do, is it?
reads article
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Holy crap...the Guardian is very thirsty...it's telling me exactly how many times I've visited them to read an article. They really want me to know that -they- know I've been watching them.
-Very- flirty if you ask me.
I mean I like the Guardian just fine.
Do I -like- like the Guardian?
I don't know how to say this but...
I like them more as an alternate news source rather than as a primary one.
I don't like to be so blunt but there it is.
Does the Guardian have recipes?
Even if they did it'd be for English food.
I'm sure people who grew up in England really like it.
And cryptic crosswords? Five levels deep of puns is a bit much don't you think.
And the opinion page? It's like every oped is literally an aunt scolding you for not doing enough and why haven't you called your mother.
I knew I shouldn't have said anything... even if the Guardian improved all those things, it wouldn't guarantee anything.
I mean the recipes and games -are- kinda nice at NYT.
Despite its problematic word omissions in Spelling Bee @Robusto.
Isn't there some feed of -just- unvarnished news? just a scroll of mini events?
I think AP News used to have something like that but I can't find it.
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I'm so glad I grew up in the pre-coddling days, back when kids could still be kids. Or maybe it was the Scandinavian culture of my family. But I don't think so; non-Scandi kids were mostly treated the same. Now we raise cripples.
@tchrist I'm damn sure I didn't get coddled. There were no participation trophies given. If you produced in school you were fine. If not, woe unto you. Other than that, we were left to our own devices.
Overprotective coddling where kids can't even be allowed to go off somewhere to play on their own out of sight or be expected to get themselves to school on their own cannot but create an unhealthy citizenry with unreasonable expectations and little imagination or initiative, dependent and entitled.
You have to treat them as people, not as china dolls.
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#WhenTaken #135 (11.07.2024)

I scored 695/1000 🎉

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2️⃣ 📍 831 km - 🗓️ 21 yrs - ⚡ 126 / 200
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4️⃣ 📍 18339 km - 🗓️ 20 yrs - ⚡ 55 / 200
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@Robusto Yes.
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@Robusto Because all software errors are human errors.
@MetaEd Well, that may have been true before, but now we have AI. Which may actually be a human error, insofar as we know; it remains to be seen.
@Robusto I must say I do not 100% agree with the quotation, but not because of software. You absolutely can blame the computer when the computer itself has some kind of electrical malfunction. Example a cosmic ray changes a bit. There you can blame the computer.
Or God.
That's an hardware error.
Yes, exactly.
21:38
@MetaEd God? Did you ever consider that perhaps the Devil created the computer?
Mar 27 at 20:56, by MetaEd
A physician, an engineer, and a lawyer were arguing about whose profession was the oldest. The surgeon said, "God removed a rib from Adam to create Eve. Obviously medicine is the oldest profession." The engineer replied, "Before that, God created the heavens and the earth out of chaos in less than a week. That was a remarkable feat of engineering, making it the oldest profession." The lawyer just smiled and asked, "Who do you think created the chaos?"
@jlliagre God was a software error, if you consider the human brain as some kind of program.
Always blame a lawyer. Unless you can blame Batman, then blame Batman.
It's Batmans all the way down.
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Q: Etymology of "banged-up" = "imprisoned"?

user1826011. What is the etymology of banged-up = "imprisoned"? Briefly googling, I couldn't find any etymology. (I'm guessing it came from the banging sound of the gate/door as one is locked up?) Related questions: 2. Is banged-up American English, British English, or both? I don't think I've heard/seen i...

Are you kidding me? What a genuine shit snack.
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> Any one of these examples would have been unremarkable on its own. The issue is that they piled up to such a degree, in contexts in which a more considered style of expression is the order of the day. In particular, they are occurring at the very moment that the president is trying to reassure the nation that he is in complete control of his verbal faculties. Biden was never exactly Churchillian, but even in interviews as recent as four years ago, the contrast to the present is striking.
@tchrist All this makes me feel like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.

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