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00:05
Considering the blatant sexism I saw in 2016 I kinda dreaded this
If the democrats had posted a male, would trump have been elected?
sadly, painful to say, but perhaps not.
I think colour is less of an issue, after Obama's successful two terms
but yeah, democrats gambled that the population was a bit more accepting than they really are, and it bit.
Imagine a Trump vs Bernie election in the same conditions.... what would have happened ?
gosh that's a hard one for a bunch of different reasons
00:24
I don't trust Trump after he suggested injecting disinfectants against COVID.
@alphabet If we have any more presidential elections, I'd like to see AOC as the Democratic candidate. I think she'll be old enough by then.
@DannyuNDos What, you trusted him before then?
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Actually, Pete Buttigieg and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez would make a great team.
@Robusto Before then, he seemed... okay. Especially when he met Kim.
I was even convinced that Koreas would unify shortly after then. But what the heck, now Kim wants to declare eternal division.
@DannyuNDos "We fell in love!" he said, after he met Kim.
He never met a dictator he didn't love.
You're lucky he didn't offer to cancel South Korea for that fat little toad.
That said... Who's gonna be Kim's successor? The known princess, or the hidden prince?
Heck, the princess Kim Ju-Ae is only 11, and Kim's serious about the succession to her??
@DannyuNDos He did that because he was being influenced by someone who thinks drinking bleach cures autism: theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/…
00:40
While South Korean education insists everyone must be smart... Heck, American education seems to be doing the opposite.
@MetaEd You're right, and I'm sorry.
Being the richest country brought the karma, I'd say.
@DannyuNDos It took THAT long? :)
@tchrist I mean, an allied country is an ally. So I trusted at the start.
@Laurel Same. Add in black and it's worse still. She lacks Obama's charisma to compensate for not being white. And honestly, nothing can compensate for being female in the eyes of enough sexist bigots to make a difference.
@DannyuNDos He's ALWAYS been a complete conman and buffoon, a fool.
Being allies is immaterial for believing a conman.
00:48
Title: The Tale of A Brainwasher Buffoon
@DannyuNDos Kim. It's always Kim. Well, it's always some Kim. I presume you aren't considering the new Korean Senator Kim (D-NJ). :)
Dunno who that is;
@tchrist Who knows? Maybe Choe Ryong-Hae is preparing a coup.
@Criggie What, a young likable one who's good at this, say like Pete Buttigieg? Quite possibly. But Biden? No.
@tchrist I've never heard of this Pete Buttlegger person, sorry.
Is it Anime ?
@tchrist A Korean American is, strictly speaking, not a Korean.
00:53
@Criggie Wait, really?
Though, yeah, some Koreans might applaud him.
@DannyuNDos :)
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg ( BOO-tij-əj; born January 19, 1982) is an American politician and former naval officer who is serving as the 19th United States Secretary of Transportation. A member of the Democratic Party, he served as the 32nd mayor of South Bend, Indiana, from 2012 to 2020, which earned him the nickname "Mayor Pete". Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Oxford, attending the latter on a Rhodes Scholarship. In 2007, he began three years of work at the management consulting firm McKinsey & Company. From 2009 to 2017, he was an intelligence officer...
@tchrist short of googling the name, no, I've never heard of them
@Criggie He's affable and can persuasively defend himself cogently against Rupert Murdoch's Fox News crazies better than anybody else we've seen.
Nope - seriously not ringing any bells with me.
I mean I have heard of him now, thanks.
00:56
@Criggie Pete's a him, trust me. I wish there were more of him so they could be thems but one's all we've got. :)
hehe - gender agnostic till otherwise informed
@Mitch amphetamine is naturally occuring in a bunch of notorious plants. Meth is semisynthetic. And it's AFAIK by a chemical reaction, not an enzymatic one, so doing it with enzymes in a GMO meth corn will require a lot of original research.
@M.A.R. so - no tomacco plants for us ?
I wonder how that conversation would go with the FDA. "Hi I need some funding to produce corn that has meth instead of starch in it"
@Criggie Once I have a traditional sex-restricted first name, my langbrain has a sex and thus a pronoun, boys named Sue notwithstanding. It's completely unconscious and automatic in the wetware, and not really overridable. I would never want to fight Johnny Cash.
00:59
I like maize only when it's served with cheese.
@DannyuNDos Well, with cheese, it's hard to think of something better, though! Chipa Guazú
@Criggie if you can get me a couple of plutonium rods I can get you tomaccos.
@tchrist :heart: Boy named Sue.... what amovie
@Conrado Never seen it before, but it looks tasty.
@M.A.R. Yeah, being grass, corn's really more of a grain than a "vegetable"
A whole grain but still a grain.
Juicy and sweet though it be.
01:02
Are potatoes a grain tho?
The starch is too high.
No, taters are tubers doncha know.
Tubers are a type of enlarged structure that plants use as storage organs for nutrients, derived from stems or roots. Tubers help plants perennate (survive winter or dry months), provide energy and nutrients, and are a means of asexual reproduction. Stem tubers manifest as thickened rhizomes (underground stems) or stolons (horizontal connections between organisms); examples include the potato and yam. The term root tuber describes modified lateral roots, as in sweet potatoes, cassava, and dahlias. == Terminology == The term originates from the Latin tuber, meaning 'lump, bump, or swelling'. Some...
@Criggie Hopefully there aren't too many of these crazies.
What about nuts?
What about nuts?
Are they a grain?
01:04
They're fruits of course.
No, they are not a grain.
My fav nut is cashew nuts, so
Then again, some things people think of as grains are actually seeds. Quinoa is an amaranth.
@DannyuNDos Have you ever eaten the fruit?
Of the casher? The pulpy bit atop the nut?
Wdym by the fruit?
@tchrist No
@M.A.R. does original research
hmm not so original after all
wow research is hard
01:07
@tchrist Never even seen those.
@tchrist bless you
> The fruit of the cashew tree is an accessory fruit (sometimes called a pseudocarp or false fruit).[3][4] What appears to be the fruit is an oval or pear-shaped structure, a hypocarpium, that develops from the pedicel and the receptacle of the cashew flower.[5][6][2] Called the cashew apple, better known in Central America as marañón, it ripens into a yellow or red structure about 5–11 cm (2–4+1⁄4 in) long.
@tchrist Cashews??
Reminder of the grains: Rice is the king, barley is the queen, beans are the jack, and the rest are commons.
Beans, sir, are not grains. They're legumes.
Who knew, I know.
01:09
And peanuts are nuts, not peas
As am I
They're legumes.
Or the other way round, I can never remember
The nut of the pea.
Not nuts please.
Nuts are fine and all but what psychopath puts them in cookies?
01:10
@tchrist I was according to Korean traditions, so
You've just ruined two perfectly good foods!
@Mitch Doesn't Subway put nuts in cookies tho?
@DannyuNDos thank you for making my point.
> Well, that's the difference between grains, seeds, beans, and nuts. Don't get it wrong. Grains are seeds that come from grasses, seeds are seeds that come from flowers, Beans are seeds that come from legumes, while nuts are seeds that come from trees.
Subway also puts some meth derivative on their bread for some reason.
01:12
Wait, seriously?
@Mitch azúcar
@Mitch Only if you go to the right store.
@DannyuNDos maybe not meth exactly
buckwheat!
> Grains are edible seeds of various plants in the Poaceae (Gramineae) family, which is one of the flowering plants whose stems have internodes. Such as, rice, wheat, corn, and so on. Grains are divided into two types, namely true cereals and pseudocereals.

True cereals are types of grains that come from the Poaceae family, for example rice, wheat, oats, corn, barley, rye, sorghum, and millet. While pseudocereals are types of grains that are not from the poaceae family, for example quinoa, buckwheat, and amaranth.
But some scary chemical like dihydrogen oxide or triticale.
@Mitch I'm actually worried about you at this point. 'Cause meth is illegal here for any means.
01:14
pulses
@DannyuNDos worrying makes me anxious.
@DannyuNDos It's illegal everywhere, absent a prescription.
And worrying about that makes me concerned.
No, that's the meth talking.
Past that it's just an intellectual exercise.
01:15
No doctor would prescribe meth here. Unlike opioids.
It apparently has rare medical uses.
> What is Methamphetamine? Stimulant that speeds up body's system that comes as pill or powder. Available in prescription as Desoxyn® to treat obesity and ADHD.
Heck, I asked my doctor if he can prescribe LSD for microdose, and he rejected.
I can't imagine what would call for that.
LSD, I don't think they can write a prescription for.
I heard it can help fighting delusions, so
Psychedelics have recently been attested to have therapeutic properties for psychological problems
Most of the studies on them have shown no appreciable benefit.
Do you trust scientists or personal anecdote more?
01:19
> ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 5 AM FRIDAY TO NOON MST
SATURDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 7 and
14 inches, with the heaviest amounts south of I-70. Lighter totals
of just 1 to 4 inches north of Boulder.
Man, it just keeps coming.
@Mitch Scientists, of course.
@DannyuNDos People sketched out on lack of sleep easily become delusional, even without drugs.
@DannyuNDos sometimes scientists are wrong.
I sleep 8 hours every night. That should be enough, no?
@Mitch Are we sure they didn't invent NyQuil Chicken?
01:22
@Mitch If a scientist is wrong, their paper is gonna be criticized, so whatever
@alphabet well if a person would eat nuts in their cookies, why not?
@DannyuNDos Sure and the person who told you the personal anecdote, person to person, may very well put NyQuil in their cookies.
There, I just remembered the other maiz/cheese thing that I was privileged to eat once: arepas de queso.
I bought them in a bus station somewhere, and they were food for kings.
@tchrist I was really thing hard about what good news to tell Lauren and it was real hard and I finally settled on 'Hurricane season is over's and sure enough there's a current hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico.
@Mitch It's hard.
01:29
hungry
@Mitch The announcer says "The good news is that it's not going to hit Texas".
It's goin somewhere
Yes, the TV guy says it's goin' to the breeding ground of the softshell crabs. No more softshell crabs in your cookies this weekend.
Weird way to make crab cakes.
Ew.
Crab cakes with nuts
01:38
Kamala can still be president, you know.
But she'll have to talk her boss into taking early retirement. :)
02:32
@tchrist only for the next ~month or so
@Criggie Until January 20th.
okay, 2ish mohnths
It's the thought that counts.
He'd have to die or .... abdicate? Resign ?
He could simply resign. Like Nixon.
Then she could pardon him. Like Ford. :)
Before Trump gets to him. :(
02:35
@MetaEd In 2001 after 9/11 my freelance projects all dried up because nobody was doing anything except tightening sphincters, so I did substitute teaching for five months. Then all the work came back at once: both the stuff that got put on hold and the new stuff. It was grueling. But I found I rather liked the teaching.
03:29
@Robusto What did you teach?
03:58
> - But on my computer, everything works.
- Then we'll ship your computer to the client.
04:56
Hurrah.
05:34
@Vikas LOL
Moscow and Las Vegas are roughly similar in area, but drastically different in population
Yikes.
 
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06:44
> "Yes, there is death in this business of whaling—a speechlessly quick chaotic bundling of a man into Eternity."
 
4 hours later…
 
1 hour later…
12:27
@DannyuNDos What the hell
Chubbyemu, my fav medical channel, he is.
When you hear stories of nurses and doctors being apathetic towards the health of the patient, they've had to deal with these idiots in poisoning centers.
Not all patients covered in this channel are idiots tho
I can't see the video
So you're saying non-idiots cooked chilcken in NyQuil?
Then proceeded to eat said chicken?
No, but there are few other videos featuring non-idiots.
12:34
Well I wasn't talking about them, so don't make this awkward dude
How is the weather today!
Tabriz is cold one day, warm the next.
Tired of adjusting the heater temperatures
Well, it's night here, so I cannot say "sunny".
Nor is "moony" a word.
Huh, how many hours ahead are you?
My timezone is UTC+9.
12:37
UTC + 3:30 here
That half hour is because we do not accept the new world order
Take that George Soros
I just recalled that there are nights without the moon. So even if "moony" were a word, it wouldn't be appropriate every day.
@DannyuNDos CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
Hard to tell, but it is doubtful that this was a material factor in any of the Presidential election results. This is particularly true in the case of the Jewish vote, because the Jewish population in the U.S. is highly concentrated in states which were never swing states. Indeed, not a single U.S. state had a particularly close Presidential election result this year. Sure, that isn't the question, but it does implicate the salience of the question. — ohwilleke ♦ 20 hours ago
Interesting.
"Nights are clear for the next week, so the prediction is for very moony, with some wind"
I mean, of course the pro-Israeli lobbyists affect every election a lot
How much is harder to say
12:46
@M.A.R. I think the data is showing otherwise.
It's also impossible to say how many people were disenfranchised because she chose the standard support for Israel response
Yes mf I used the mass effing version of 'data' and I love it
@Mitch what data? Are you saying those gajillion dollars are not very effective?
May 8, 2023 at 3:15, by M.A.R.
The datums are probably not very accurate for Asia
@M.A.R. compared to the mega million dollars from everyone else? No the point was about 'effect every election a lot'. Which the data show it doesn't and this year even moreso.
@M.A.R. another thing that should be brought back, even if it never was.
@Mitch well that's interesting. I would ask you for citations but honestly I don't care about it all that much
If there was something about world politics I'm mildly concerned about is how the next cold war (between US and China) is gonna play out
12:54
@CowperKettle English, of course.
Other than that, I mostly care about POTUS not botching up Iranian markets so my transplant drugs don't go scarce
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by M.A.R.
So since Trump is now president, I'm gonna lose some money.
@M.A.R. If he can fuck something up, he'll fuck it up.
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@M.A.R. Citations? This is the Internet man. (Also where are yours?)
@Robusto the thing about that is that now he has explicit plans to fuck things up.
Hopefully he'll fuck up the fucking up.
So that things won't get too fucked up.
@Mitch I know.
@Mitch Don't count on that. He has henchmen now to do the fucking up.
@Robusto who are all fucked up.
Well...back to talking about the Jews and heroin.
Or was it meth?
Anyway, aren't the chemical compositions of caffeine and theobromide (the chocolate thing) very similar?
There's another one of those smallish chemicals in that group that are chemically similar and have similar 'fun' properties.
It's not vanilla is it?
Nicotine probably.
I'd expect any self respecting cook to wash off excess NyQuil after marinating the chicken in it overnight.
@Mitch Yes. And evil as fuck on top of that.
You don't want the menthol to overpower the other spices.
@Robusto I don't exactly know who these nefarious people are other than RFKJr.
All the classic players have been sacked or disbarred.
@Mitch Don't worry, you will.
@M.A.R. I think very few people cared enough about Gaza for it to influence their voting decision at all.
13:09
@Robusto great! Anxiety over lack of knowledge relieved!
@alphabet it wasn't an issue for you?
Newspaper articles were written about it.
How it might affect the youths, or as you pointed out, the arab-americans.
Pardon my decapitalization...my thumbs are tired.
@Mitch You're only supposed to use one thumb, and for the space bar. So why aren't you avoiding spaces if you're thumbs are so tired? You can't capitalize spaces, you know.
@Robusto point taken. Will start to accommodate.
Mf
I tried with no spaces and it auto corrected that.
Yet it can't capitalize Arab-American for me I have to do it my effing self.
From The Economist.
But I've since cut off one thumb to help.
Good man.
13:14
Il faut souffrir pour être une bonne typiste.
@M.A.R. Not much in this case; Trump and Harris simply aren't far enough apart on this issue for those lobbyists to get heavily involved.
@Robusto i'll do the other thumb soon so it'll be easier to calculate in octal.
@M.A.R. I've heard vaguely that the placebo effect is actually not as effective as it was once thought. Maybe even non-existent. Have you read anything (like something scientific) about that? I'm not sure what a control would be. Giving someone a sugar pill without them knowing?
@Mitch We'll see if any actual data comes out. Yes, but I voted for Harris anyway, as did most progressives who cared about this issue. It certainly cost her support among Arab-Americans, but Trump's margin of victory was, I think, too large for that to have been a major factor.
13:30
@alphabet sure, but you said 'influence' not 'effect'
Of course if you turn around and hold me to any marginal implied nuance of a word's semantics I will deny everything.
And by 'deny' I mean 'agree'
And by "agree" you mean smolder with resentment.
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@jlliagre WhenTaken is messed up today. The map shows nothing but ocean. Maybe they're making a statement about climate change?
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@Robusto Same here, we can't but wait and sea.
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@jlliagre Punning in English! M'sieur, you have arrived.
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@jlliagre You've forgotten The Lesson of the Glacier.
Also: Why is there a glacier? It's not a country.
14:19
@Robusto RTFFAQ: Why is X a country? There are some regions in travle that aren't countries. I think it makes the game more interesting.
@jlliagre Interesting is in the eye of the beholder.
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@Robusto Who are they now? Are they in anyway competent?
@Mitch The Heritage Foundation, for one.
And don't forget Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, etc.
@Robusto No. How dare you. Don't put words into my mouth. I meant 'stew'. Possibly 'with teeth gritted' if I were to be so bold. At the worst 'simmer'. But 'smolder'? That's a metaphor I will not bear.
14:32
@Mitch But it looks good on you.
@Robusto I meant actually people who will be part of the administration. Leaders and direct accompl advisors. Possible cabinet members, chief of staff etc.
@Robusto blushes
I have to admit I make a lot of colors look good.
@Mitch Lackeys can be manipulated.
@Robusto Yeah the Elon Musk connection is very worrying (among so many other things).
@M.A.R. This group is what I was thinking of:
Xanthine ( or , from Ancient Greek ξανθός xanthós 'yellow' for its yellowish-white appearance; archaically xanthic acid; systematic name 3,7-dihydropurine-2,6-dione) is a purine base found in most human body tissues and fluids, as well as in other organisms. Several stimulants are derived from xanthine, including caffeine, theophylline, and theobromine. Xanthine is a product on the pathway of purine degradation. It is created from guanine by guanine deaminase. It is created from hypoxanthine by xanthine oxidoreductase. It is also created from xanthosine by purine nucleoside phosphorylase. Xanthine...
the 6-ring connected to a 5 ring, with a bunch of nitrogens thrown in.
I'm pretty sure that's the technical definition.
But sadly I don't see meth in there
(goes off to do more wikipediaing)
@Robusto Tracing the app shows their Apple MapKit token is likely to have expired.
Substituted amphetamines are a class of compounds based upon the amphetamine structure; it includes all derivative compounds which are formed by replacing, or substituting, one or more hydrogen atoms in the amphetamine core structure with substituents. The compounds in this class span a variety of pharmacological subclasses, including stimulants, empathogens, and hallucinogens, among others. Examples of substituted amphetamines are amphetamine (itself), methamphetamine, ephedrine, cathinone, phentermine, mephentermine, tranylcypromine, bupropion, methoxyphenamine, selegiline, amfepramone (d...
So yes it does look smaller than the xanthines.
slightly
There's a long list of them there.
That's a lot to keep track of, as a pharmacist or as a producer of them.
14:55
@jlliagre That's unfortunate.
@Robusto I reported the issue but I guess I'm not the first one to do it.
@jlliagre Which begs the question: "Don't they look at their own site, like, ever?"
@Robusto Who does it?
15:31
> We demonstrate that the one-dimensional sequence of syllables is represented by two-dimensional neural representational geometry in WM arising from left prefrontal and temporoparietal regions, with separate dimensions encoding item position within a chunk and chunk position in the sequence. Critically, this two-dimensional geometry is observed consistently in different experimental settings
Never mind, I'm insufficiently coffeed atm.
16:02
@tchrist I have a nagging suspicion four years of making fun of Biden's senility changed a few minds.
@jlliagre Is the strike over?
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@jlliagre WT is up and running again.
@MetaEd Ah, I don't think so. I understand now: engadget.com/general/…
16:20
@M.A.R. : But don't you think that Biden's senility itself (without regard to mockers) changed any minds? I get that he had good advisors and so on, but why didn't any of them (or whoever is in charge of nominating party presidential candidates) push back against him running for reelection?
@Mitch no but it's worth pointing out that this effect is not consistent at all between therapies and indications. I think some experts believe there really is something physiological going on at least some of the time, it's not inconceivable that people would subconsciously inhibit pain pathways a bit after taking a sugar pill they think is a painkiller. This so-called effect can be large, or small, depending on what's being studied, so I dunno how much sense it makes to say it's
Who? Me?
@jlliagre Sorry, I pressed the wrong reply-to button. It was for M.A.R's comment
. . . smaller than previously thought.
The placebo effect doesn't make sense about antidiabetics, for example.
@Conrado No problem. In any case, I agree. Blindly keeping Biden is charge was kind of a political suicide for the Democrats.
16:25
Sorry, internet is acting up again
@Conrado well I can easily imagine that if democrats used the same tactics against Trump most of everything he said and says could be construed as the ramblings of a senile man.
They're not far apart in terms of age.
And Trump is certainly not as robust as he was a couple of decades ago
@M.A.R. I feel like "Ramblings of a senile man" is pretty charitable for some of Trump's speeches, and yeah, I am equally confused that the Republicans couldn't come up with a candidate who would have surpassed him by many criteria (including but certainly not only) physical and mental stamina. But in Biden's case, there seemed to be a lot of people saying Yeah, he's quite able to be president again!
@Conrado people were expressing doubt about his capabilities before he even was a president, just not the sort of people who mattered, I guess
While my own gut feeling was "Yeah, able, but still it makes sense to put someone with a bit more youthful enthusiasm up for candidate." And I bet a lot of voters felt that way.
@M.A.R. Mebbe it just shows why people who think like me aren't in charge. :) But, if my hypothesis is correct, this thought influenced some of their choice.
Like Tchrist said, "this is how the world is, and that I will never understand many, many things. That's ok."
Well, now we can just brace ourselves for four more years of wrestling commentator outrages on the social medium of his choosing unenthusiastic yay
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17:06
@M.A.R. Also news sites breathlessly reporting everything he says because it gets them clicks.
Sorry to distract with a completely different topic. Anyone with experience in IT here knows what part of Sarbanes-Oxley Act is related to the rule that the software developer should NOT also be the one who deploy things to production, and should NOT have access to any of the systems and databases in the production system? When I skimmed through the Wikipedia article, it's all about financial accountability.
This is a summary of how an IT department can be SOX Compliant. The connection to one or more of the 12 elements of the Act is not that obvious.
@GratefulDisciple That has nothing to do with the Sarbanes-Oxley Act; what you heard was either a joke or a metaphor.
17:21
or a lie, or a cya
@alphabet Seriously? I remember that the company that I once worked for was quite serious about "SOX Compliant", so much so that I need to make changes to my deployment procedures.
however, there is an important general rule in accounting called segregation of duties. There's a Wikipedia article on it, and that article does mention IT and Sarbanes-Oxley so perhaps there's something to it.
Separation of duties (SoD), also known as segregation of duties, is the concept of having more than one person required to complete a task. It is an administrative control used by organisations to prevent fraud, sabotage, theft, misuse of information, and other security compromises. In the political realm, it is known as the separation of powers, as can be seen in democracies where the government is separated into three independent branches: a legislature, an executive, and a judiciary. == General description == Separation of duties is a key concept of internal controls. Increased protection from...
@GratefulDisciple Huh. Maybe I'm mistaken; I didn't know that that law had IT-related implications. I thought it was just financial regulation but it seems you're right.
I have absolutely no experience with Sarbanes-Oxley, but I do supervise a small accounting department and do treat segregation of duties as important.
@MetaEd Thanks. So that's probably the current terminology.
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The poppy comes through for the win.
@MetaEd I guess in an ERP system it is manifested in careful delineation of rights that an ERP user profile used by a software should have, etc.
@MetaEd BTW, I like the poppy. Remembrance day is coming up for us Canadians.
@alphabet Yeah, it's probably metamorphized into PCI and HIPAA Compliance. If you're compliant in either, maybe all SOX Compliance concerns would be included already.
@Cerberus Well that discussion was poorly timed: Israeli Soccer Fans Injured in Amsterdam Attacks That Authorities Call Antisemitic -- Some news reports say most attackers were apparently "Arabs."
> Geert Wilders, the head of the biggest party in the Dutch Parliament and known for anti-Muslim vitriol, wrote on social media that he was “ashamed that this can happen in the Netherlands.” Using incendiary language in both English and Dutch, he demanded that “criminal Muslims” be deported, and attacked the government for not doing enough to protect the Israeli fans.
 
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@GratefulDisciple Yes.
@GratefulDisciple I like to throw in some traditional observances. The full list is on my profile.
@think_meaning_builds You can call me poppy but I generally go by Grandpa, or Edward.
Poppy is my halfling's name.
"You can't galvanize a voter base that sneers down its nose at anyone who's not holier-than-thou."—Big Sarge
> Washington Post reporters from around the country answered your questions about the second election of Donald Trump to the White House washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11/08/…
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What has two butts and kills people?
An assassin!
20:15
A key mechanism for Lou Gerhig's disease may have been discovered medicalxpress.com/news/…
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@Robusto That video is so great in identifying the gap between the lived experience of the very poor and the fact the Dems only seem to talk about "the middle class", code for working class.
@Lambie Yup, glad you watched it and liked it.
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@tchrist "Coming like a new star in the sky." "What child is this?" "Son of Horus." 1: "I give him the pendant of Isis." 2: "I give him a ring that is a piece of my first body." 3: "I give him my staff, that it may comfort him. For there is an ancient tradition that staves have a way of doing that. I don't know why."
I was just reading "The UNIX Time-Sharing System" by Ritchie and Thompson, and was really interested to see this paragraph: "There has been one loss of a file system (one disk out of five) caused by software inability to cope with a hardware problem causing repeated power fail traps. Files on that disk were backed up three days."
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This is completely contrary to modern usage of "backed up", and also makes a whole lot more sense.
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@MetaEd Might be safer for the universe for there to be born a new a Horusson than a new Setson. Marginally. Unless the ultimate source of all the recurring reality-rotting paradoxes is actually Gramma Isis all along.
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> “As democracy is perfected, the office [of president] represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” —H. L. Mencken
@tchrist But I need a new Setson. This one doesn't fit right.
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@MetaEd Cet enfant surdoué, qui est né avec de nombreux dons divins, n'a pas besoin de cadeaux terrestres, même s'ils venaient des rois mages.
I couldn't make it work in English, sorry.
For there are gifts and there are gifts, such that things gifted babies are not always so becoming of gifted babies.
@tchrist The gift of a baby is its utter helplessness.
The magickings of the Magic Kings.
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@Robusto LOL
blue hairy frogfish
Is that real?
Makes sense.
AI-generated organisms. 🎶Is this the real life? Or is it fantasy?🎶
I'm getting dumb
That looks real.
The striated frogfish or hairy frogfish (Antennarius striatus) is a species of marine ray-finned fish belonging to the family Antennariidae, the frogfishes. This species is found in the Indo-Pacific and eastern Atlantic Ocean. == Taxonomy == The striated frogfish was first formally described in 1794 as Lophius striatus by the English biologist George Shaw with its type locality given as Tahiti in the Society Islands. Within the genus Antennarius, this species belongs to the striatus species group. The 5th edition of Fishes of the World classifies the genus Antennarius in the family Antennariidae...
The real ones look weird enough already!
Sounds familiar?
The little worm on their head.

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