English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

00:12

@jlliagre If you cross Elvenkind you may find yourself in trouble.

CowperKettle

> In the 19th century, it was proposed to demolish Largoët, given its dilapidation, but it was saved thanks to Prosper Mérimée, who had it classed as a monument historique in 1862.

The author of Carmen saved that tower.

alphabet

00:40

I know I should flag this, but it's too funny:

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A: The belief that a god is human-like

I have the pleasure of living the life of a supernatural being. Born as a deity making it rain at 5 the Christian Church christened me the chosen one. A man of God and exercised in many ways. A photographer in Afghanistan during the conflict after 9-11 as a peace keeper/Warrior Priest. Most recen...

Is this an advertisement? A troll? Probably both.

SmokeDetector

00:54

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (93): The belief that a god is human-like‭ by Clive Appleby‭ on english.SE

Mitch

@alphabet " I have the pleasure of living the life of a supernatural being."

Laurel

@alphabet Aw, look what happened

Mitch

It could be entirely sincere

Laurel

I don't understand what "Born as a deity making it rain at 5" means. Born at five years old?

There are quite a few things lacking clarity in addition to that

Mitch

01:50

@Laurel maybe he makes it rain at 5pm?

I mean not -every- day

I mean

I mean It's not meant to be

alphabet

02:14

I think it was supposed to mean: "Born as a deity, and making it rain at age 5"

CowperKettle

04:02

> "God doesn't play Doom" (Carmack)

CowperKettle

06:52

This tiny NYC apartment goes for $650 a month!

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Xanne

07:14

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CowperKettle

I wonder what's the medial monthly salary in China for an average man, excluding the richest two or three cities.

Curio

08:25

Hi, I'm trying to choose the most suitable sentence for my game, but I'm struggling to take this decision. Could you help me, please?

You eat a whole Pie. But your immune defense is so low that you gain 0 HP
You devour an entire pie, but with your weakened immune defenses, it doesn't restore any HP.
You consume a whole pie, but due to your compromised immune system, it fails to replenish any HP.
You consume a whole pie, but due to your severely weakened immune system, you don't regain any HP.

CowperKettle

I've read the whole list, but my cognitive function is so low that I can't choose.

All seem okay.

Curio

LOL

The funniest one?

CowperKettle

I'm not a native speaker :)

The shortest one could be the best one, since it's a game

Curio

Thanks!

CowperKettle

09:49

@Curio You're welcome! )

> Further research is needed to expand the knowledge of effects produced by exogenous insulin on cognitive function in patients with type 1 DM.

Is it better with "cognitive function" or "cognitive functions"?

I like "function" better, even though in the Russian original text it's "functions", because I've got this vague but strong feeling that in English, the "function" represents what's meant by "functions" in Russian.

alphabet

11:02

@CowperKettle "Functions" would suggest some specific set of discrete cognitive faculties, whereas "function" would refer to a patient's overall cognitive state.

But you could just use the single word "cognition" here.

(I'd also put a "the" before "effects." Darn articles.)

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle singular

@alphabet yeah I like "knowledge of the effects" better

@Curio "devour", and "consume" to a lesser extent, would add comedic effect by exaggeration. They would mostly only work if you've exaggerated things in other dialog in the game too. My preference without more context is option 4, but with "eat" instead of "consume"

@alphabet looks like jumbled rap lyrics

Michael Rybkin

13:11

Could you please tell me if the following sentences sound fine to you guys?

This neighbourhood is a piece of heaven. I wish I could own a house and live there.

Robusto

@MichaelRybkin It's fine.

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Vikas

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Michael Rybkin

@Robusto Thank you.

Robusto

I hope @tchrist didn't go to Burning Man this year. Rains turned it into a disaster area. Ankle-deep mud, and no one can get in or out.

alphabet

13:52

@MichaelRybkin Sounds fine to me!

Michael Rybkin

14:16

@alphabet Thank you.

CowperKettle

14:37

> Medical medications: Scheduled: Reglan 10mg TID; Protonix 40mg BID; Ibsrela 50mg BID; Corlanor 7.5mg BID; Florinef 0.1mg QAM; Truvada 200-300mg QAM (prep); Testosterone gel 2 pumps QD; PRN: Zofran 4mg; Flexeril 10mg; Extra strength Tylenol (doesn’t touch my pain); Dulcolax

Psych medications: Lithium 750mg QPM (Level 0.82 as of 8/29); Seroquel 300mg QPM; Lamictal 100mg QPM (In process of titrating higher); Effexor 225mg QAM; Prazosin 4mg QAM; Vyvanse 50mg QAM

Someone listing their medications in an "Ask doctor" Reddit sub.

CowperKettle

14:53

Taliban did it again. Wiped out opium plantations.

Cerberus

15:38

@CowperKettle But they have always made most of their money from drugs, haven't they?

alphabet

15:54

@CowperKettle Oof.

M.A.R.

16:55

@CowperKettle Prazosin as psychotropic medication?

So um, HIV patient with ADHD and bipolar depression?

Oh, and with some degree of heart failure.

alphabet

The Truvada is for PrEP, according to the post; it's something gay/bi men and injection drug users can get to prevent HIV infection prophylactically

Getting it is a fun process involving mandatory rectal swabs every 3-6 months

All for a medication that almost never has serious side effects and prevents a disease that can kill you

It's a very well-designed system we have

M.A.R.

17:13

@alphabet every day?

I'm not familiar with the dosing regimen, I would have to look it up

alphabet

@M.A.R. Yes; as I recall, you need to have been taking it for a few days for it to provide protection, so you need to use it every day (as opposed to only days when you're sexually active)

You can get it in the US, but public health authorities are concerned that people on it will be less likely to use condoms (granted, kind of true)

Hence their guidance is to treat people on it primarily as potential vectors for other STDs

Hence the mandatory rectal and oral swabs every 3-6 months if you want to keep getting it prescribed

M.A.R.

@alphabet a fun hobby is trying to find drug leaflets that don't have "death" as a rare side effect

Cerberus

@alphabet You can also take it around the sexual encounter only.

@alphabet Throat as well, and blood.

alphabet

Indeed

hrc.org/resources/is-prep-right-for-me

> For anal sex, it takes at least seven days of daily use for PrEP to reach full effectiveness. For vaginal sex, it takes at least twenty days of daily use.

Cerberus

That is the reason why STD occurrence hasn't risen much amongst Prep users, despite reduced use of protection.

alphabet

17:19

So unless you plan sexual encounters a week in advance it's better to take it every day

Cerberus

@alphabet Around sex also works very well, take 2 pills 2 hours before, then 1 after 24 hours, and again.

@alphabet Nope!

alphabet

Huh. I've always been told what that website says. Maybe I'm wrong.

Cerberus

Two hours is enough.

I don't know that website.

M.A.R.

At least in your healthcare system STIs are treated like diseases, not crimes.

alphabet

Maybe the recommendations in the Netherlands are different?

M.A.R.

17:20

(Textbooks ask us to use STI instead of STD)

Cerberus

It is the same in many countries.

I don't know about your country.

@M.A.R. Why is that?

alphabet

Sexually Transmitted Crimes

Cerberus

@M.A.R. Hmm is it really that bad?

alphabet

The CDC gives the same advice: cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep/prep-effectiveness.html

M.A.R.

Meanwhile I'm reading about the Freundlich isotherm which is not very freundlich at all

alphabet

17:21

> For receptive anal sex (bottoming), PrEP pills reach maximum protection from HIV at about 7 days of daily use.

Of course, I don't know what "maximum protection" is; maybe it's just the difference between 99% and 99.5%

Cerberus

> For men who have sex with men: you can use PrEP according to two dosing regimens: one daily pill, or around the time of sexual activity (“event-driven”). This event-driven PrEP regimen entails the use of two tablets at a maximum of 24 and minimum of two hours before sex, followed by one tablet 24 hours and one 48 hours later. If you use the tablets according to the schedule, both dosing regimens prevent HIV infection effectively.

An exception are trans men who have sex using their vagina: they will need to take PrEP daily, otherwise the protection will be insufficient.

M.A.R.

@Cerberus well, doctors are alright. The people treating STDs in clinics and hospitals are more open-minded obviously. But everywhere else it's stigmatized a lot and there's no education

Cerberus

ggd.amsterdam.nl/english/sti-hiv-sense/prep/prep-qa

@alphabet No, if you begin with 1 pill, I believe it takes a while to reach really high protection similar to 2-1-1.

@M.A.R. Hmm not even in biology school books?

M.A.R.

@alphabet probably some pharmacological metric, like E99 or something.

@Cerberus wow not in a million years

alphabet

@Cerberus Huh. Here's what the CDC says about using PrEP that way: cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep/on-demand-prep.html

> Although the updated PrEP guideline provides information on how to correctly use the “2-1-1” schedule, this approach is not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and is not recommended by CDC. Taking PrEP as prescribed is currently the only FDA-approved schedule for taking PrEP to prevent HIV. When taken as prescribed, PrEP is highly effective for preventing HIV.

Cerberus

17:26

@M.A.R. Hmm too bad.

M.A.R.

The Bearded Ones maintain a choking grasp on schools

Cerberus

@alphabet Maybe that's outdated.

alphabet

I think this explains why doctors here don't recommend it; it's because the CDC hasn't decided to Officially Recommend It.

Cerberus

@M.A.R. Ah, makes sense.

@alphabet Or maybe because it's Too Complicated.

It doesn't work well enough with vaginal sex.

M.A.R.

Cost-benefit analysis.

Cerberus

17:28

And it's more demanding, you need to get the timings right, and not forget a single pill. The daily regimen is more forgiving, missing the occasional pill is OK.

M.A.R.

My drug is actually probably the most sensitive drug when it comes to adherence. But I can't be expected to take it at exactly 9 a.m. and 9 p.m. for forty years, I'm not Kant

Cerberus

Understandable.

At what deviation do you think it could be significantly less effective?

M.A.R.

I'd need to dig up kinetic data to be able to answer that

Laurel

@alphabet It reads like they don't know what pronouns are lol

Cerberus

Hmm.

M.A.R.

17:33

@Laurel clinical pharmacists are the next generation of chatGPT

Imagine that robotic tone as a 250-line wall of text, that's what reading guidelines sounds like

Laurel

We should train the next generation of AI on existing AI which was told to emulate clinical pharmacists

alphabet

Taking medication is the one thing I can always remember to do

Having epilepsy makes that rather important

M.A.R.

When it's not confusing you with statistics terms like "multivariate regression" or "ANOVA" or "data"

@alphabet with my CKD and @Cowp's . . . Whatever, we should make a team

The Three Stooges

blogoftom.com/trio-names

alphabet

The best part of the CDC guidelines is the phrase "receptive anal sex (bottoming)." It's a rather jarring and unexpected attempt to make their clinical language comprehensible.

Cerberus

Hmm how would you have done it?

@alphabet Hmm I think it can work with or without the.

M.A.R.

17:41

The Trinity? Bit pretentious. The nerd herd? Well Cowp isn't a nerd, he's a parkour master. Triple Threat? Hmm maybe

Cerberus

If the reader knows that certain effects are intended or referred to, it should be the.

Otherwise, it can be either.

alphabet

Also this note in the CDC guidelines:

> * The term “gay and bisexual men” is used to describe men who identify as gay or bisexual, as well as men who have sex with men who do not identify as gay or bisexual.

M.A.R.

UpToDate writes it as MSM (Men who have Sex with Men)

alphabet

MSM is also commonly used to stand for "Mainstream Media"

Usually by people on the right

Kind of hilarious if you misread it

MLM is occasionally used to stand for "Men who Love Men," but of course it also means "multilevel marketing"

M.A.R.

Glucosamine + chondroitin + MSM. Great supplement with lots of placebo effect.

Well, it's great for my pockets

Laurel

17:52

@alphabet And there's also BL

M.A.R.

Black Lives . . .

Maybe the matter has evaporated

alphabet

@Laurel Wait, what non-gay meaning does that acronym have?

Cerberus

@alphabet Hilarious.

alphabet

@M.A.R. I take MSM by eating a copy of The New York Times.

Cerberus

BL?

Bilingual?

Blind Love?

alphabet

17:55

Close enough

Laurel

@alphabet idk lol

alphabet

Although I'm not even sure it counts as gay; I think it's more a straight women thing

Cerberus

18:10

No clue.

Abbreviations. Ugh.

Laurel

@alphabet I'm pretty sure gay, bi, etc men also partake in it, though the places where I see this type of thing published (which have many other genres) tend to have an audience of mostly women

@Cerberus Boys' Love, which is basically romance where both sides of the couple are men. There's also GL (girls' love) and LGBTQ (not explaining this lol), the latter of which could be considered a hypernym

Cerberus

Okay.

Also called...gay.

Laurel

No it's not called that :p

But actually seriously, I've never seen "gay" as a genre label

Just sayin

Cerberus

We just say gay films if that's what it is about.

Which is not pornography.

I mean, not in context.

Laurel

Also I know there's a wasp in my room but I don't know where it is. This is the third one this week (or maybe it was a single unlucky wasp three times)

Cerberus

18:22

Ugh!

Do you have an electric racket?

Laurel

It plopped down on my bed next to me pretty aggressively but now it's somewhere else

Cerberus

Waps are almost as bad as abbreviations.

Laurel

@Cerberus no, I have unwanted mail and a Chinese food container

Aw it's on the ceiling

Cerberus

A towel can work.

Folded in twain.

Laurel

Wasp #2 was in the room when I was working on Friday and it landed on my leg and I was perturbed

Cerberus

18:24

Yikes.

Laurel

I didn't get stung tho

I'm trying not to kill them because I don't really like killing insects (the one exception being those microscopic fruit flies ugh)

Cerberus

That is something.

Why are those flies the exception? They don't sting.

My exception is animals that seriously disturb me.

Like humans.

Present company excepted.

Laurel

Awwww I just saw a dead smaller wasp on my window frame

Cerberus

A dead baby!

Or a normal one, and the others are early queens looking for places to build their nests.

Laurel

Oh no, both of those are horrible!

Mitch

18:28

@Laurel sobs in hands

Cerberus

Which would you pick?

Laurel

I locked it in my room and I'm going to deal with it later. Well, the door isn't locked, but I'm going off the assumption that I wouldn't need it to be

@Cerberus Dead baby

Mitch

@Cerberus increase in anxiety due to not knowing when present

Laurel

I think they may just be different species of wasp

Cerberus

@Laurel Congratulations, you have picked the dead baby!!

Mitch

18:33

I allow flies and bugs out by holding the window screen open with one hand and trying to shoo them with the other. If they are not appreciative of my attempt to help them, only then do I smush them with a magazine or book.

Cerberus

@Mitch You'll find out when your time comes.

@Mitch It depends.

Mitch

@Cerberus nervously checks calendar

Cerberus

If it's a cute bug, I won't kill it.

Mitch

and watch

Cerberus

But flies lay eggs in my food.

Mitch

18:34

@Cerberus are there cute ones?

Cerberus

And, who knows, in the corner of my eye.

Mitch

@Cerberus even more anxiety than I had already

Laurel

I have a sliding door that I can throw any insects I catch out of

They never seem to leave voluntarily

Mitch

@Cerberus there could easily be a monstrous body hiding behind those super cute eyes.

Cerberus

@Mitch There could!

But I'm not posting my body pics.

Mitch

18:35

@Laurel annoyingly unreliable in their flight patterns

@Cerberus oh those guys are harmless

Unless you mess with them

Cerberus

They can sting.

And die.

Mitch

I'm looking at.a fly at this very moment. Eying it for potential smashing

But it's not bothering me

At the moment

Ok that guy is gonna get it now

Cerberus

@Mitch I read that as *Eating.

Mitch

@Cerberus this story is not yet done

Cerberus

What animal are you?

I suppose cats eat bugs.

Especially ones they shouldn't.

Mitch

18:40

?? I'm a person?

Cats aren't that bright

I'm not gonna eat no bugs

Cerberus

They are not that smart, but they do have an ego.

Mitch

Not on purpose

@Cerberus not unfounded but still

There's no -cure- for narcissism, but the treatment is to get the narcissist that it is in their best interest to fake being empathetic.

Cerberus

Is it?

Laurel

@Mitch Oh, yeah then what about your profile pic? (Tempted to write that as pfp to annoy @Cerberus lol)

Cerberus

Pfp?

Ohh profile pic, Hercules!

Mitch

18:53

@Laurel it's more of a suggestion than a literal picture

Laurel

Oh yeah? What are you suggesting then???

If not the fact that you're a cat

alphabet

As a racoon, I believe that insects are an important member of the 12 food groups

As a human, I believe that they are too low in milk

M.A.R.

19:11

I on the other hand am Tom the cat. And very photogenic.

They've made entire movies of me.

Mostly full of mouse propaganda

But you know how it is. Really smart people don't mind being the butt of jokes. Like Rowan Atkinson.

alphabet

@M.A.R. youtube.com/watch?v=85mv368UU38

M.A.R.

@alphabet they're trying to discredit my name by saying I would stoop so low as to hire those guys

Mouse propaganda can be very subtle

Mitch

19:56

@Laurel oh

Huh

Well

There's not much else that could be suggested

I mean it would be kind of a stretch to say that it suggests a dog

So I guess I'm kinda stuck

Robusto

20:18

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jlliagre

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Robusto

20:33

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Vikas

20:55

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CowperKettle

21:54

4GW of solar will be added in India this year, not bad.

CowperKettle

22:08

Weasel war dance

The weasel war dance is a colloquial term for the behavior of excited ferrets and other members of the weasel subfamily. Naturalists speculate that weasels in the wild use the dance to confuse or disorient prey. == In domestic ferrets == In domestic ferrets the war dance usually follows play or the successful capture of a toy or a stolen object. The war dance is commonly held to mean that the ferret is thoroughly enjoying itself.The behavior consists of a frenzied series of hops sideways and backwards, often accompanied by an arched back and a frizzed-out tail. Ferrets are notoriously clumsy as...

Word of the day: business (a group of ferrets)

Old English of the day: elþeodig - foreigner. Composed of el, from which today's else is derived, and þeod - tribe, people. Thus, "other people"

Cerberus

23:20

@CowperKettle Both nice.

Dutch has elders "elsewhere".

Related to Greek allos "other"?

Robusto

23:44

And German has Ausländer: outlander.

Old English also had wealh (pl. wēalas) for "foreigner(s)", which is where the modern-day name of the country Wales (Welsh Cymru) comes from.

And elþeodig didn't just mean foreigner. It could mean "strange, foreign, barbarous, one who is abroad."

I guess if you left England you were all of a sudden strange and foreign. ;-)

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