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12:20 AM

Nice!

> maat (“partner”) +‎ -schap (“-ship”).

And maat is cognate with English mate

@CowperKettle I imagine the Russian news is full of the strong alliance with China. (Not realizing, or admitting, that Russia is quite the junior partner or maat in that relationship.)

Cerberus

12:46 AM

@CowperKettle Oll Korrect.

jlliagre

@Robusto Je le mets de côté pour mon petit déj. demain matin.

Robusto

@jlliagre Oll Korrect.

CowperKettle

1:09 AM

@Robusto Yes, but these news reports seem quite empty of substance.

Some general phrases, nothing concrete is said.

Cerberus

@CowperKettle I think this documentary is pretty good.

A nice overview, and with lots of details, some of which I didn't know or didn't remember.

The one big thing I don't get is how he says 'we' didn't know Russia was behind the invasion in 2014.

We did, it was all over the papers.

So I don't get why he keeps saying that.

Putin tried to create deniability, but nobody believed him.

And Russia got somewhat serious sanctions, too.

CowperKettle

Yes

CowperKettle

1:27 AM

@Cerberus Frankly, I only watched it half-way

Up to halfway, it was nice

But at least the video describes the whole complicated stuff a la Shakespeare's Richard III, with all kinds of interactions, in a short span of time.

Cerberus

Yeah.

It could have been a bit less sensational and more matter of fact.

Easier to follow.

CowperKettle

> Thus far, with rough and all-unable pen,
Our bending author hath pursued the story,
In little room confining mighty men,
Mangling by starts the full course of their glory.

> Small time, but in that small most greatly lived
This star of Ukraine: Fortune made his sword;
By which the world's best garden be achieved,
And of it left his son imperial lord.

> Yanukovich, in infant bands crown'd King
Of Crimea and Ukraine, did this king succeed;
Whose state so many had the managing,
That they lost Crimea and made his Ukraine bleed

> Which oft our stage hath shown; and, for their sake,
In your fair minds let this acceptance take.

This "economist" Sergei Glazyev has always been promoting aggressive schemes. And gradually Putin grew senile enough to follow.

In 1995 ge tried getting into Parliament as part of KRO, a Russian nationalist party.

I recall our programming teacher at University sporting a KRO lapel pin, and KRO labels on PCs

Congress of Russian Communities

The Congress of Russian Communities (CRC, Russian: Конгресс русских общин, КРО, romanized: Kongress russkikh obschin, KRO) is a political organization in Russia. It was created in the early 1990s initially to promote the rights of ethnic Russians living in the newly independent countries of the former Soviet Union. The group contested a number of elections to the Duma in the 1990s. In the 1995 Duma election, the group took 4.3% of the vote, just missing the 5% threshold to gain seats. In 1999 it again failed to pass the 5% threshold, although KRO candidates did win a small number of single-mandate...

Officially, it was a nice party, but from their speeches on TV you could get that they were nationalists.

It was founded in 1993 by Dmitry Rogozin of the Roscosmos fame.

Some people believe that Dmitry Rogosin is on this 1994 photo

Holding a sign saying "Whites of All Countries, Unite"

Others say it's just a lookalike

Дмитрий Рогозин зигует на русском марше в 2007 году

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Dmitry Rogozin making a speech at the Russian March 2007

M.A.R.

1:48 AM

@CowperKettle pupils are taught to reduce big number subtractions into subtractions of single digits from numbers up to 19. Say, you wanna subtract 777 from 963. You do it like so: 3-7 can't work, so you subtract 7 from 13 instead, and leave 5 (times 10) for the next step. Same goes for the tens. You subtract 70 from 150.

CowperKettle

Saying "Moscow is a Russian city" etc. and making a salute sign

@M.A.R. Thank you!

M.A.R.

Now the joke is pupils are never taught specifically this, just the methodology, so some do get confused if they try to apply the same method to 18-9

@CowperKettle very controversial statement

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. Just mildly nationalistic. He was trying to pander to nationalists to get into politics again.

Looks like Russia was drained of good people when the borders opened.

We should have left the borders closed.

M.A.R.

Wasn't he the idiot in charge of the Russian NASA, what's it called, Roscosmos something

CowperKettle

In this vacuum, Rogozins got into power.

@M.A.R. Yes, even Putin's supporters were facepalming at him.

He was the ultimate something.

Disgrace.

M.A.R.

1:53 AM

So . . . The Ahmedinejad of Russia?

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. He famously recorded a CD with his own songs about the Russian Space Industry.

It was cringe.

M.A.R.

Maybe after this presidency is over, we'll replace that with Ra'isi

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. I don't think he's a real nationalist, he's just unscrupulous.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle hehe

CowperKettle

"Рвём небо мы в клочья", песня на стихи Дмитрия Рогозина, музыка Ильяса Аутова

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And made these misical videos.

The lyrics are ugly :)

I mean the meaning is fine, but it's poorly written.

Родина-2005: Очистим Москву от мусора!

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Rogozin's pre-election ad in 2005.

"Let's clean Moscow of dirt!"

With non-enthically-Russian people from the Caucasus playing the role of dirt.

M.A.R.

1:58 AM

@CowperKettle I like that the actors don't even look like they give a shit

Cerberus

Wasn't Rogozin kind of side-lined recently?

Cerberus

4:14 AM

> Supplying even half the number of requested planes, he added, would also be overly expensive, and U.S. officials have stressed that extensive air defenses on both sides have made combat aircraft of limited value to Ukraine and Russia alike.

But in an interview with The Washington Post in February, Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, Ukraine’s ground forces commander, said the main value of modern fighters such as F-16s is their long-range strike capability. Russian forces have adjusted to Ukraine’s use of the U.S.-provided High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, which has a range of ab…

washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/22/…

CowperKettle

5:29 AM

@Cerberus Yes, a little.

Cerberus

Hmm.

CowperKettle

He was fired from Roscosmos. Then he visited the battlefields, where he showed off by firing some mortar rounds. Then he attended a restaurant party in Donetsk, which was ambushed (a round was fired directly into the restaurant), but survived with some splinter entering his gluteus maximus.

He is living his life to the full, in short.

Or to the short, in full.

Cerberus

OK.

I hope we won't hear much from him again.

CowperKettle

6:23 AM

Xanne

7:17 AM

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I’d guess this is a relatively hard one.

CowperKettle

7:36 AM

This meme is titled Aspirin and Clopidogrel - I don't know why. Probably @M.A.R. will understand.

Xanne

7:49 AM

Daily Octordle #423
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Vikas

Spring is fine to me. Autumn not so good.

CowperKettle

8:16 AM

> Life in itself
Is nothing,
An empty cup, a flight of uncarpeted stairs.
It is not enough that yearly, down this hill,
April
Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers.

Xanne

8:49 AM

April does seem to upset the poets,

CowperKettle

@Xanne Poets are fickle, they can be upset one second and glad the next second.

A higher dose of magnesium each day keeps dementia at bay

I just love Millay's poetry.

Xanne

not just breo
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Houseman rode a bout the woodkand

Ti see rfe

CowperKettle

9:05 AM

Are on on a phone? Take your time! I hope you're feeling well!

Yes, Houseman is a nice poet too!

M.A.R.

10:26 AM

@CowperKettle maybe because 1) both are antiplatelets, 2) after, say, a heart attack, aspirin and clopidogrel are both administered; and 3) aspirin is weaker but for the same reason overall prescribed way more often.

It's pretty nerdy but not very witty making it not very funny overall

@CowperKettle she was speaking in the language of the gods

Bah, I'm rating memes. I should go study something to be less dour

Xanne

11:08 AM

Daily Quordle 423
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Xanne

11:19 AM

@CowperKettle We have here two animals happy tog'e''ther, , an ass representingaspirin, and a dog clopping around representing the clopidogrel.. Not real funny, just any everyday representation., I think

M.A.R.

That kinda dog is called an 'ass'?

I mean, Google isn't helpful when I search "dog ass"

CowperKettle

11:38 AM

Probably it's hard to type and the phone makes "corrections" :)

A policeman who has worked in Moscow for 20 years can get 10 years in jail for spreading "fakes about the Russian Army". He spread the fakes via.. personal phone conversations. If he receives the sentence, this will be the first precedent (since Joseph Stalin's times) of a Russian person being sent to jail for talking over the phone. meduza.io/live/2023/03/23/voyna

His name is Sergey Vedel (Сергей Ведель)

Sergei Vedel was born in the small town of Bucha near Kiev, in an enthically Russian family, but worked as a policeman in Russia for decades.

When the SMO started, he decided to make phone calls to his friend, a policeman in Ukraine, to ask how his relatives fared in Bucha.

After hearing all the news, he became agitated and was making phone calls to his Russian police friends, speaking out against the war and "spreading fakes"

Unbeknownst to him, the phone line was tapped.

The officer who was listening covertly to the tapped line "experienced a sense of dread", and this, according to the accusation, is classified as "spreading of fakes".

Even though he did not know that anybody was listening in to his personal calls.

I told this to my dad. We decided not to discuss anything political over the phone from now on.

Phones are recorded on a wide scale, and you can be accused post-factum, if someone needs to get you into jail.

A tapping police officer, along with his "mental anguish", can be easily invented post-factum.

Robusto

12:44 PM

#Worldle #426 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

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Wordle 642 3/6

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