English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

12:04 AM

@Mitch Interesting!

> Actress Lucille Ball stated in a 1980 interview with People magazine that although she rarely watched sitcoms, "I love Gary Coleman. He puts me away. He puts everybody away."

Word of the day: to put someone away - to impress someone

I wonder from which of the senses "to put away" she derived this usage.

Robusto

12:32 AM

@CowperKettle Similar to "knocks me out" or "floors me" or "destroys me" or "slays me" and so on.

Mitch

1:12 AM

@CowperKettle i don't recognize that as a thing. Without any context, ' he puts me away' doesn't mean anything beyond the literal 'he put me away in the cupboard (as though I am a dish or cutñery)

Robusto

1:33 AM

@Mitch Well, no. It expresses finality of a sort, a stoppage of something.

A terminal expression.

Beyond which there is no equivocation or argument.

It is hyperbolic, of course, since expressions of being impressed are all marching over the top always.

CowperKettle

3:30 AM

Russian state TV interviews pianist Valentina Lisitsa

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Robusto

4:37 AM

@CowperKettle She plays everything too goddamn fast.

CowperKettle

If a patient is given to listen two sequences of sounds and pauses, with the second sequence presenting sound signals precisely where the first's pauses there, and vice versa, can we say they are in "precise mirrored inversion"?

> Two different schemes (Nos. 1 and 2) of signals and pauses were used, employing the same audio frequency (1200 Hz) for signals but differing in being a precise mirrored inversion of each other.

Basically the sounds sound the same (1200 Hz), so the only difference is that they are in the precise places where the pauses were in sequence 1.

@Robusto She must be a good musician. 280 million views

Maybe I should get rid of "mirror" of the original Russian text and just use the term "inversion".

The two sequences are merely inversions of each other.

Robusto

@CowperKettle You can have her.

Also, she appears to be Putin's darling.

CowperKettle

She is Putin's acushla.

At last this word was useful for me.

AI drawing to the prompt "inspired by Matt Groening and Zinaida Serebriakova and George Caleb Bingham"

Serebryakova's nose can be seen in all 4 images

Here's her original painting from 1918

CowperKettle

5:50 AM

Владимир Высоцкий - Марафон.flv

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I love this song about running.

> А гвинеец Сэм Брук
Обошёл меня на круг.
А ещё вчера все вокруг
Мне говорили: «Сэм — друг!»
Сэм — наш, говорили, гвинейский друг.

Some of his songs are like stories by Mikhail Zoshchenko, only put on music

> Zoshchenko developed a simplified deadpan style of writing which simultaneously made him accessible to "the people" and mocked official demands for accessibility: "I write very compactly. My sentences are short. Accessible to the poor. Maybe that's the reason why I have so many readers."[3] Volkov compares this style to the nakedness of the Russian holy fool or yurodivy.

Stalin hated Zoshenko, but probably considered him not dangerous enough.

CowperKettle

6:31 AM

Russie: l'interview de Piotr Tolstoï, vice-président de la Douma, sur BFMTV en intégralité

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Oh. Rabid anti-Ukrainian Duma member Pyotr Tolstoy speaks a good French.

Like his grand-grand-grandpa.

He worked at the Moscow office of Le Monde in 1992-94

It's sad when intelligent people support such evil things.

forest

Everyone supports evil in one way or another.

user 85795

7:03 AM

TIL Belarus banned Orwell's 1984 just last May

Faheem Mitha

7:31 AM

@user85795 They're kind of late to the party. Nineteen Eighty-Four was published in 1948.

CowperKettle

7:42 AM

@user85795 I googled and found an official refutation of this as a "fake". They might have tried banning it covertly using informal communication and only in brick and mortar shops, not online bookstores. But I think after a controversy arose, they must have backtracked.

Anyway, it's futile banning a book since the Internet is everywhere.

In the USSR, some "unwelcome" books were sold in small peripheral towns, according to rumours; and in small numbers, so that the country could claim that it does not perform censorship. In reality, I guess.. who knows. Policies changed from year to year.

In some specialized cinema theaters one could see The Beatles' Yellow Submarine, though rarely, while at the sime time in newspapers and magazines the group was critiqued as a Western fad. It all depended on some local official

Thus underground rock groups like Aquarium, while officially banned, managed to record top-quality albums on professional equipment, because some lowest-level official let them into a state recording studio at night or during holidays.

I was really amazed at the quality of their albums dating to the early 1980s.

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CowperKettle

8:20 AM

@Robusto "назло маме отморожу уши", as the saying goes.

назло маме отморожу уши

= Русский = === Тип и синтаксические свойства сочетания === назло маме отморожу уши Устойчивое сочетание. === Произношение === === Семантические свойства === ==== Значение ==== разг. о действиях протестного характера, которые вредят самому протестующему ◆ Отсутствует пример употребления (см. рекомендации). ==== Синонимы ==== ==== Антонимы ==== ==== Гиперонимы ==== ==== Гипонимы ==== === Этимология === === Перевод === === Библиография ===

jlliagre

11:49 AM

@CowperKettle I liked when Sergei Zhirnov, who is famous in the French media since the Ukraine invasion, told Tolstoy that he was lucky to enjoy parliamentary immunity because otherwise he would have been put in jail for rebelling against Putin and called the "special operation" a war. Tolstoy keeps calling it a war in his response, by the way. (youtube.com/watch?v=A3PsqS7E6K0&t=1037s)

tchrist

12:13 PM

@jlliagre But he still resorts to whataboutism.

Which is the "People who murder people can't tell people who murder people not to murder people" argument.

jlliagre

@tchrist Yes, Tu quoque fallacy.

tchrist

Exactly that.

Robusto

1:08 PM

@CowperKettle I don't see how not caring for Lisitsa freezes my ears.

#Worldle #369 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
⭐⭐⭐🪙
https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

Got the flat this time. Way more population than I thought, though.

🌎 Jan 25, 2023 🌍
🔥 12 | Avg. Guesses: 5.08
⬜🟥🟩 = 3

globle-game.com
#globle

Wordle 585 4/6

🟨⬛🟩🟨⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Vikas

1:54 PM

Parrots.

CowperKettle

2:16 PM

@Robusto It was a comment on "Take that, France!"

The saying is roughly translated into English as "cut the nose to spite the face"

@Vikas This is cool, I never saw parrots flying in the wild

@Robusto I never meant to criticize your view of Lisitsa! I dislike her political views, to put it lightly

jlliagre

2:42 PM

#Worldle #369 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
⭐⭐⭐🏙️🪙
https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

Hmm, once again, some borders are crossed thanks to barefoot walks through the sea... That one sounds familiar though :-)

@Robusto Ouch!

🌎 Jan 25, 2023 🌍
🔥 1 | Avg. Guesses: 6.51
🟨⬜🟥🟥🟩 = 5

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#globle

jlliagre

3:02 PM

Wordle 585 5/6

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⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
🟨🟨⬜🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

How not to play quordle:

Daily Quordle 366
7️⃣8️⃣
9️⃣🟥
quordle.com
⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜ ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟩 ⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟨⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

⬜⬜⬜⬜🟩 ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜ ⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜
🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜
🟨⬜⬜⬜🟨 ⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜

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Robusto

Daily Quordle 366
6️⃣5️⃣
7️⃣8️⃣
quordle.com

parz

3:29 PM

hi

Robusto

3:39 PM

Daily Octordle #366
7️⃣6️⃣
8️⃣🟥
4️⃣9️⃣
🕐🔟
Score: 71

Lost my mojo on Octordle, it seems.

jlliagre

Daily Octordle #366
5️⃣8️⃣
4️⃣🟥
9️⃣🕚
6️⃣7️⃣
Score: 64

hi

@jlliagre #4 wasn't fair.

jlliagre

@Robusto Je confirme.

Robusto

I spent three guesses on that one alone.

jlliagre

3:45 PM

So did I with Quordle #1 before getting it on the fourth.

Robusto

Yesterday I tried new seed words. Never again. I scored an 84 on Octo.

jlliagre

I've been using the same ones for a while.

Robusto

Me too. My son got me to try new ones yesterday. Bad idea.

parz

Daily Octordle #366
8️⃣9️⃣
🔟🟥
5️⃣6️⃣
7️⃣🕐
Score: 72

Robusto

But I do think there are better ones out there.

Robusto

4:02 PM

@jlliagre My primary seed word is from French. Cuz, you know, vowels.

jlliagre

4:18 PM

@Robusto Like lymph ;-)

Robusto

4:34 PM

@jlliagre That's my #3. Sometimes nymph.

CowperKettle

#Worldle #369 5/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨↘️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨⬇️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨⬇️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨⬆️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
⭐⭐⭐🪙
https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

Vikas

5:49 PM

@Robusto Listened to it. Not sure it contained "bird on the wire" phrase. Or maybe I was focused on other stuff while I was listening. Didn't pay attention to lyrics.

Robusto

@Vikas Well, if you don't pay attention it's not my fault if you didn't hear that phrase, which features in every verse.

Vikas

@Robusto Yes just checked.

Robusto

But songs are hard to make out in other languages if they're not crisp and clearly enunciated, which is not really something songs do a lot.

Vikas

I just played it in background while I was working on something. I usually play music while work that doesn't need focus. And I don't pay attention to lyrics. Just instruments/melody are enough.

If I have to pay attention to lyrics, I focus on only music then. Can't focus on work LOL

jlliagre

6:11 PM

@Robusto Very true, songs can even be hard to make out in one's own language.

Robusto

@jlliagre Also true.

Vikas

Cliff Richard & The Shadows - Theme For A Dream (Cliff!, 02.03.1961)

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@Robusto have you listened this song?

And this one is Hindi song based or similar music. Not sure if it was official remake or copied. I like it very much. I came to know about the original song much later.

Pal Pal Har Pal Lyrical Video Song | Lage Raho Munnabhai | Sanjay Dutt, Vidya Balan

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Robusto

6:26 PM

@Vikas What about it?

Vikas

And here is the Hindi singer/musicians singing casually both songs. First English then Hindi.

Sonu Nigam | Without Music Singing Pal Pal Har Pal x English Song

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Robusto

@Vikas Does this one have the same lyrics in translation?

Vikas

@Robusto No. Lyrics are different but the "music" is same at some points. I don't know the word I should use here though. Is that called melody? Or theme? Also yeah Hindi song is about love.

Robusto

Understand that that melody and chord progression have been used, at least in part, in a number of songs.

Vikas

So that thing which is common in these songs is called "melody"?

Robusto

6:31 PM

Yes.

Vikas

I mean even instruments and lyrics can be totally different but "something" is similar. I think it is called melody.

Robusto

Melody is the musical line the lyrics follow.

Vikas

@Robusto OK. I have been looking for this answer for a long time.

Robusto

You're welcome.

Vikas

@Robusto Thanks

LOL

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8:19 PM

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