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Cerberus
Cerberus
12:07 AM
@Mitch Yes, of course.
@Mitch Yes, the same as with Google Translate.
It's what happens with machine learning, right?
@Mitch That may be possible, but it is difficult when there are so many photos of a person.
 
Robusto
Robusto
12:46 AM
 
jlliagre
jlliagre
@Robusto You did better than I (Redactle #77: 126 guesses, 15.08% accuracy.)
 
Robusto
Robusto
@jlliagre It was a tough one.
 
jlliagre
jlliagre
1:18 AM
@Robusto Not as tough as two recent ones where I gave up (Max Schiller and and another one I forgot the name). I'm not sure I would have find yesterday's redactle. For me, it's a first name I do not associate with something else despite understanding the noun in context.
#Worldle #153 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
 
Robusto
Robusto
@jlliagre Haha, it was Max Schiller in your mind too.
yesterday, by Robusto
Still, I couldn't think of his name—my brain kept giving me "Schiller"—so finally I asked my wife if she'd heard of a German philosopher named Max Schiller or something like that. "You mean Scheler?" she said.
 
jlliagre
jlliagre
@Robusto Yes, his name should be fixed! Too rare ;-) "Scheler Name Meaning
German: From An Agent Derivative Of Middle High German Scheln ‘To Peel’ Probably An Occupational Name For Someone Who Peeled Bark From Trees For Use In The Tanning Process."
 
Robusto
Robusto
@jlliagre This is where English gets shell, apparently, as a verb meaning to remove the cover of something, like oysters or peas.
> Old English sciell, scill, Anglian scell "seashell, eggshell," related to Old English scealu "shell, husk," from Proto-Germanic *skaljo "piece cut off; shell; scale" (source also of West Frisian skyl "peel, rind," Middle Low German schelle "pod, rind, egg shell," Gothic skalja "tile"), with the shared notion of "covering that splits off," from PIE root *skel- (1) "to cut." Italian scaglia "chip" is from Germanic.
 
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
4:44 AM
Word of the day: gamp (umbrella, British)
> And so, although the streets are damp,
And man is lost without his gamp,
And by the pavement hansoms rush,
Distributing unpleasant slush,
And though the days are drear and dank,
Shall such as I, when Brain and Rank
In noble silence bear their lot,
Expostulate? I fancy not.
Etymology of the day: monitor (From Latin monitor (“warner”), from perfect passive participle monitus (“warning”), from verb monere (“to warn, admonish, remind”))
So, monitor is cognate with admonition
Zoster (costume)
A zoster (Greek: ζωστήρ, zōstēr) was a form of girdle or belt worn by men and perhaps later by women in ancient Greece, from the Archaic period (c. 750 – c. 500 BC) to the Hellenistic period (323–30 BC). The word occurs in Homer, where it appears to refer to a warrior's belt of leather, possibly covered in bronze plates. Later references in the late Archaic and early Classical periods show it used as a belt or cloth girdle with men's clothes, especially the shorter chiton. By the Hellenistic period, it had become synonymous with "zone" and was used for women's clothes as well as men's.The zoster...
Hence, herpes zoster, and the English word zone, which a thousand years ago meant "belt"
 
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
7:47 AM
Word of the hour: hames (two metal or wooden strips which take the full force of the pull, padded by the collar)
 
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:05 AM
> Option generation is critical in decision making. Ang et al. show that people with major depressive disorder generate fewer, but more unique, options vs healthy controls. Modafinil reduces the creativity of options generated by healthy individuals. academic.oup.com/brain/article-abstract/145/5/1854/…
So, when you increase your dopamine levels, your brain generates less creative options in some situation. Interesting.
 
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:28 AM
In the summer of 1998, journalist Anatoly Levin-Utkin, aged 41, published this investigation into the newly-appointed Head of the FSB of Russia, Vladimir Putin, titled "Leutenant colonel Putin's appointment as Head of FSB was in violation of the law". A week later, Anatoly was killed as he was entering his block of flats, returning home after work.
An obituary of Anatoly Levin-Utkin, 1998.
He was brutally mauled to death with a metal bar, with multiple blows to the head.
 
 
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ORHAN ERDAY
ORHAN ERDAY
11:48 AM
Hey anybody home?
What is the true usage of "The maximum result of the number(10) exceeded. Change the interval or set a value for the top parameter."
 
Robusto
Robusto
12:35 PM
#Worldle #153 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
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Wordle 369 4/6

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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
I know which continent this country is on, and thus I'll never guess the name of it.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@CowperKettle It has a unique characteristic.
 
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Yes, I recalled it instantly. The shape.
But the name..
> In April 1877, Malatesta, Carlo Cafiero, Sergey Stepnyak-Kravchinsky and about thirty others started an insurrection in the province of Benevento, taking the villages of Letino and Gallo without a struggle. The revolutionaries burned tax registers and declared the end of the King's reign and were met by enthusiasm.
Ukrainian anarchist Sergiy Stepnyak captured villages in Italy.
> For a time he was convinced that individual acts of political terrorism would convince tsar Alexander II to introduce democratic reforms. On August 4, 1878 O.S. he assassinated General Nikolai Mezentsov,[4] the chief of the Gendarme corps and head of the country's secret police,[1] with a dagger in the streets of St Petersburg.
Yes, that really helped introduce democratic reforms.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
1:17 PM
@ORHANERDAY Hi! I don't understand your question I'm afriad
Are you asking what it means, or is it an error message you want to use in your program, or something else?
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:37 PM
@CowperKettle I don't get the 'hence'. What does 'herpes zoster'/shingles have to do with a belt/girdle? Is it the pattern of lesions?
@Cerberus OK but then I don't understand what your question "Actual photos are actual photos, not sure what you mean by compare?" is about? (because I was trying to answer it)
@Cerberus in principle yes... I haven't heard of any leakage in Google Translate though. For languages, like Thai, with smaller internet presence, in a similar manner you can get GT to spit out really bizarre things (as we've played with here in the past), but I haven't seen anything that looked like an actual identifiable string from the internet.
@Cerberus It's a thing that -can- happen, it's not a necessary occurrence.
@Robusto I do some things with stats/machine learning which are sometimes labeled AI.
@Cerberus To oversimplify considerably...yes.
 
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
1:55 PM
@Mitch Yes
 
Mitch
Mitch
@CowperKettle That's really interesting (from superficial understanding). I wonder what they really mean by 'options'. I would think very informally that reducing the number of options would actually improve depression, less things to worry about. But also, having more options would seem like a cognitive enhancement. It all depends on what very specific task with 'options' the experiment is done with.
 
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Yes, the devil is in the details.
To truly understand the meaning of their research, one should download several dozen papers related to the topic, and read them very closely.
And then maybe wait 5 to 10 years for more papers to arrive, containing criticisms and reviews.
 
Mitch
Mitch
and the article is behind a paywall for me (or rather I have to jump through a lot of hoops to get to it)
@CowperKettle Ugh. Work.
@CowperKettle And time.
All for a journalist to write a front page paper today saying ' Modafinil cures depression'
 
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
And decreases creativity.
> Do your job, and do it right. Life's a ball. TV tonight.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@CowperKettle Absolutely Free.
 
 
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Vikas
Vikas
3:16 PM
Does any of you still read newspapers? Or have you too become used to digital sorces?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Vikas A live physical newspaper? I look at some online newspapers. On the rare occasion I'm in an airport, I might get a physical newspaper because I don't feel like looking at a phone to read news.
What do you do for news?
 
Vikas
Vikas
@Mitch Yes real newspaper.
@Mitch I don't read in details usually. I check Twitter and here and there for headlines.
 
Mitch
Mitch
is the same newspaper available through the internet?
 
Vikas
Vikas
@Mitch Physical paper?
 
Mitch
Mitch
is the same 'real' (= physical to me) newspaper available through the internet?
 
Vikas
Vikas
3:25 PM
@Mitch No
We need Harry Potter style newspaper. A mix of physical and digital.
 
Mitch
Mitch
The online newspapers seem to be almost exactly those Harry Potter newspapers, with text plus video.
 
Vikas
Vikas
@Mitch No.
We need thinnest (paper like) display that can be curved and folded easily.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Oh. the webpage, despite not being able to fold over, gets you a lot of the feel of the content of the HP newspaper (moving images plus text).
Even the 'tablets' or 'electronic paper' are far away from being foldable like paper.
 
Vikas
Vikas
3:56 PM
Yeah.
But I think it is possible if it is needed in future.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I'm not sure it is necessary to replicate. Why bother when you can get everything on your phone?
Maybe a bigger phone?
 
Vikas
Vikas
@Mitch Because it's fascinating to me. Would love to see it.
@Mitch That won't give the same feel.
 
Mitch
Mitch
In the US at least, the concept of a news stand has been steadily falling out of favor for years.
Also newspapers themselves. All sorts of newspapers here are folding (mostly local newspapers)
mostly because they're available online so why bother with paper.
 
Vikas
Vikas
@Mitch Old generation still read newspaper here. Like my father and other in neighborhood.
I used to enjoy reading it a lot when there was no access to mobile phone and PC. I would eagerly wait for it daily.
I will read the newspaper in three tries. First a quick scan in morning. Later deep reading of topics I liked. Then once again if I'm bored and can't find anything else to do.
Those days were gold!
 
 
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Mitch
Mitch
5:20 PM
@Vikas Sure I like the feel of holding the paper, folding over pages, quick to scan headlines and then read the article for more (in comparison to the subtle extra milliseconds to do a gesture and mouse click. But to try to reproduce the utility of paper for the reader and the ease of dissemination electronically will be a large effort on technlogists for very little return...
...especially since so many people nowadays don't bother with paper (so there are not enough people who have a desire to go back to paper).
it'd be nice to see some graphs that compare paper-newspaper vs online readership and also paper-books vs online books.
 
Robusto
Robusto
6:01 PM
@Mitch Do they still have that newsstand in Harvard Square with all the papers from all over the world? I can't remember what it was called.
 
Mitch
Mitch
6:32 PM
@Robusto Out of Town News... closed in 2019
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch That's too bad.
That and The Tasty were my favorite features of Harvard Square. Well, except for the chess tables.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Yeah it was the best.
Lot of good stuff there
Harvard bookstore
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yeah, and the Coop.
I used to take my son down to play chess there every Saturday. He went from a patzer to an Expert level player in about a year.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Cordula's or whatever the international food shop was
 
Robusto
Robusto
There was a Mediterranean restaurant there that I liked, but I think they moved.
 
Mitch
Mitch
6:35 PM
I don't remember chess there (only been here since 2005)
 
Robusto
Robusto
You mean the tables are gone?
Still there, I guess. nbcboston.com/news/local/…
 
Mitch
Mitch
but re @vikas This was a traditional newsstand that had all the magazines and all the newspapers from around the world. Just like you'd find in multiple instances in every city in Europe (in addition to the train station), except...
...except in the US... this stand at least since 2005 (and no more after 2019) just doesn't exist anywhere.
Even in US international airports, the most you'll get is New York Times and the local newspaper if it is a big enough town (eg Chicago). and they're hidden in the corner behind rows and rows of magazines.
Physical newspapers are really almost dead in the US, except for maybe a handful.
@Robusto I guess it's not on my radar. I do remember seeing them very recently in Chinatown.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch Is that still the Combat Zone? Does the Combat Zone even exist anymore?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto No I don't think the concept exists anymore.
 
Robusto
Robusto
It used to be the red-light district.
Called the combat zone.
 
Mitch
Mitch
6:43 PM
Yeah I'm familiar with the Combat Zone as a concept, but that area (chinatown and surrounding streets) aren't really redlight at all now.
my experience there is office lunches during the week and dimsum on weekends.
 
Robusto
Robusto
My first exposure to Boston was near there. Our first office was on Boylston. I took the commuter rail to Green Line and to Park Street station.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Combat Zone, Boston
"Combat Zone" was the name given in the 1960s to the adult entertainment district in downtown Boston, Massachusetts. Centered on Washington Street between Boylston Street and Kneeland Street, the area was once the site of many strip clubs, peep shows, X-rated movie theaters, and adult bookstores. It had a reputation for crime, including prostitution. In 1974, in an attempt to contain the spread of adult businesses, the Boston Redevelopment Authority officially designated the Combat Zone as the city's adult entertainment district. For a variety of reasons, such as rising property values and the...
@Robusto at one point in my life in the past 20 years I used to get on the T at the chinatown green line stop. I never even thought of Combat Zone.
it's still a bit grimy there
 
Robusto
Robusto
All of Boston is a bit grimy.
In fact, what struck me on moving there from the Midwest was how shabby so much of the area seemed to be.
 
Mitch
Mitch
but it's all Starbuck's and Dunkin Donuts and fancy dress shops now
@Robusto also no straight streets
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yes. But that is all of Massachusetts.
 
Mitch
Mitch
6:56 PM
No I think I saw a ... no you're right
 
Robusto
Robusto
There is more straight-and-level roadway on Western Avenue in Chicago than there is in all of Massachusetts.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Back Bay has three straight streets for like half a mile.
but that's it
 
Robusto
Robusto
Western Ave. is 70 miles long, dead straight and dead level all the way.
And it's just one of the lengthy, straight streets in that grid-based city.
 
Mitch
Mitch
also Western Ave is practically in the center between thelake and the western edge of town
maybe a little to the east
 
Robusto
Robusto
Going crosstown in Boston you feel like an ant trying to crawl through a box of elbow macaroni.
 
Mitch
Mitch
6:58 PM
OK reminiscing over... gotta run
 
Robusto
Robusto
Later
Great clouds out here today surrounding me on my ride.
 

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